Wow, I'm amazed how little HP you actually need for a mountain sled to get around on the hills. That's a bit less than 1/3 of the HP than what everyone typically uses on the mountains. There's also about 1 inch missing from the lugs of a typical mountain sled. I always found with Gen4 if the temps are in the right zone you get ice/snow damns at the back of the tunnel which can cause high temps if you don't get off and smack it off. It sounds like the old classic Ski-doo 2 stroke sound which is nice to hear.
skidoo claims 40 and 55 hp for the neo + I wonder if you could tune it for some more power? my old Arctic Cat ZL500 puts out 80hp out of 498cc! I image the 600 EFI in the NEO has some headroom and its prolly good for 80-100
I never could figure out why Polaris doesn't have a 146 track option for their 600 pro RMK. A shorter track makes snowmobiles much easier to maneuver which is what younger, smaller riders need. Hopefully with Polaris offering a 146 in the 9R they will also offer the shorter track in the 600!
@@sleddermag id love to see any info on tuning this sled. As my kids grow, it would be nice to give them more power without having to buy another snowmobile.
You can get an exhaust and a clutch kit for this sled, I saw the kit online. Was thinking about getting one myself. You could bring it close to 80hp, but you'd need remapping done to get all the HP, and I am not sure how easy/possible/feasible that is.... not worth for the last 5 hp in my books. The sled is very light, so while indeed it has less power, it is pushing much less weight as well. It is still peppy. I am not even sure if I want to uptune it now.... don't want to too much power dodging trees in the bush. My last sled was Polaris switchback and I got bored riding trails; and off trail, while it would kick any short track sled, it still was not that good in deep snow. Took Neo+ into the backwoods today, it's perfect. Doesn't beat up my body. Really a joy to come home feeling rejuvenated and just relax after the ride, instead of muscles agonizing for a couple of days as I used had it after muscling a big sled on big rides. I was still very nervous if it would be too little of a sled for me, especially since I rode much bigger and more powerful machines. But after I rode it, I knew that I did make a right choice. I actually rolled my Neo+ on my first outing, landed skis up, and righted it effortlessly, no struggle at all (I am a slim female).
I was a adrenaline junky and snowmobiles were my needle 💉..lol but I became disabled in a workplace injury back in 2003. So my needs are a lil different than most adult sledders, I can't stand so I need something that lays over while seated. This 34" front-end would be cool, I was building a sled with a 32" front-end before I couldn't 🔧 wrench anymore..smh but I'd swap in the 108hp 583's from the late 90's MXZ's under the hood, then put a 165"-175" track possibly using a 15" wide track. I think that'd be awesome 👌 👏 👍! I still have 5 and 1/2 snowmobiles in the shop. ..lol...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
@@sleddermag I can't stop thinking about sledding 24-7 FOREVER! I'm a hopeless sledhead! Much to my family's shagrin! They've got lucky that I can't mechanic anymore, but I still have the urge. My ears 👂 hear a 2stroke engine fire up, my head turns, and I'm searching for the sources!.. Speed was my drug, snowmobiles were the needle 💉! Living here we have 8mos of winter, so sledding is a great hobby here. I've still got ALL my old toy's, because I refuse to give them away for penny's. Another project I was working on when I got hurt, was a Suzuki RE5 rotary engine 500cc 2stroke motorcycle 🏍 that I was building for the Bonneville salt 🧂 Flatts, with a goal of 200mph by adding a turbocharger and a lil squirt of nitrous oxide to reach my goal. I've got a garden tractor 🚜 with a Yamaha Virago 750cc v-twin engine for pulling a weighted sled at the fair, and multiple other things that I can't fix up anymore. My grandson is almost 2yrs old, so he's my jocky in training, my daughter isn't thrilled about his love of taking risks, he's a lil stunt baby..lol hope you're having a great spring!..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸🤠
My daughter and I would like to know if we were to take a pair to the mountains for light climbing,will these be ok?riverstoke mountain would be an example
Couple of questions: can you tell me what you were turning for RPMs on the neo plus? Can you give me some info on what you used to build your GoPro pole mounts for the front and rear bumpers? Thanks!
Thanks for watching! #1 Sorry, we didn't take note of max RPM at the time. Not sure what it should be on paper for this engine configuration. #2 High tech stuff-1" chunk of dowel and some RAM mounts.
I don´t know if I missed it. How tall are you guys? And your weight, please. Would you say that Skidoo are aiming against youngster with this sleds. I understand that they are lower comparing to other Skidoo models.
Both riders are over 6' tall and 190 lbs-ish. HOWEVER, don't mistake Summit Neo+ as a fully mountain capable option for grown man-children like us. 100% yes, Ski-Doo designed the sled as a stepping stone from a youth sled for youngsters, or as a beginner sled for new riders with mountain aspirations. Thanks for watching!
how tippy does it feel on trail, need a crossover type for my 12year old daughter the mxz wont cut out needs and want to get away from carbs so the evo rmk wouldnt be idea.
@@sleddermag Thanks for the reply. I weigh 138lbs and 5 feet 11, yeah I weigh nothing. I wonder how steep and deep I could do with this sled. Possibly climb Turnagin on a good day? ( Turnigan pass Alaska).
@@jamespoon2656 If you're comfortable in the mountains and ready to ride some steep and deep, go with something with more track and power. This will get a rider started in riding the mountains and building confidence but its capability is too limited for steep and/or deep stuff. Thanks for watching!
@@sleddermag hello! New rider seriously considering buying this sled as I'm 5ft 3in 115 lbs. How deep ya think it could go? Ill mostly be riding in NW Montana where we're prob not riding in more than 6-8in of fresh snow.
It's not a full sized sled though. Everything is downsized-lower ride height, suspension, seat height, smaller seat, smaller handlebar, riser, etc. It feels smaller and more manageable than a full sized sled in our experience riding it. 34" ski stance is another key element. Thanks for watching!
@@sleddermag yeah also minused a spring and a front shock limited ride. I don't understand the idea of giving a beginner snowmobiler less than up to par stuff. terrain is still the same. i'll take the cat version. they actually gave you half the motor. don't have to drive around a bigger engine but choked off. what do i know though, people will still buy this junk.
@@mikeh4053 The point is to make a more affordable sled to allow easier entry into the sport for new riders. It's half the price of a top-of-the-line mountain sled, which would terrify a new rider anyway. Easier to afford, and easier to ride, until the rider has enough experience and confidence to want more performance, at which time it will probably have good resale value. It's a total win for the growth of our sport.
@@sleddermag dont disagree on trying to price point something, and resale. Just saying mid size it is not. Its a stripped down full size sled. Ill take cats offerings where they literally went half the motor, and didnt cheap you out of needed tools to ride compliance. Doo could of went with learner keys but make you buy another to step up for same sled.
This isn’t for racing. It’s designed to be easy to ride, not scare a kid if they give it the beans and to cold start super easy every time. And it’s going to go years before anyone wrenches on it. Your 440 is very likely faster than a 55hp kids sled, if you want to impress someone go race a turbo 850.
@@crrazdogs3482 I really some of the old sit down type sleds will make a comeback of sorts! Do to being more comfortable, especially on long mile trail dog's, and work machine's to some extent..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Good video looks like its a lot of fun.
Yes all the new vids about neo plus 😃😃😃
Wow, I'm amazed how little HP you actually need for a mountain sled to get around on the hills. That's a bit less than 1/3 of the HP than what everyone typically uses on the mountains. There's also about 1 inch missing from the lugs of a typical mountain sled.
I always found with Gen4 if the temps are in the right zone you get ice/snow damns at the back of the tunnel which can cause high temps if you don't get off and smack it off.
It sounds like the old classic Ski-doo 2 stroke sound which is nice to hear.
nice job on the review
Thanks for the very thorough and fun review. Excellent, and I liked the advice to beginners
My top speed was a lil over 70 but it was also being broke in. I live in Wyoming so the elevation is also up there.
Depending on where you are, this year has been incredible for sledding here!..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
skidoo claims 40 and 55 hp for the neo +
I wonder if you could tune it for some more power?
my old Arctic Cat ZL500 puts out 80hp out of 498cc!
I image the 600 EFI in the NEO has some headroom and its prolly good for 80-100
I never could figure out why Polaris doesn't have a 146 track option for their 600 pro RMK. A shorter track makes snowmobiles much easier to maneuver which is what younger, smaller riders need. Hopefully with Polaris offering a 146 in the 9R they will also offer the shorter track in the 600!
That would be sweet, maybe it's a sales numbers thing
You can! Just don't get the RMK, get the K, or a Pro with the 128"-144" your choice..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸🤠
Are you guys going to show how to tune up to 85hp?
Oh, it'll probably happen, but not by us. We're thinking the 850 Turbo R is more our cup of energy drink.
@@sleddermag id love to see any info on tuning this sled. As my kids grow, it would be nice to give them more power without having to buy another snowmobile.
It's basically a Tundra with a Summit skin, perfect for newbies who have never driven a Skidoo.
So could you take the mxc sport exhaust and retune the EFI and get 85 horsepower?
You can get an exhaust and a clutch kit for this sled, I saw the kit online. Was thinking about getting one myself. You could bring it close to 80hp, but you'd need remapping done to get all the HP, and I am not sure how easy/possible/feasible that is.... not worth for the last 5 hp in my books.
The sled is very light, so while indeed it has less power, it is pushing much less weight as well. It is still peppy. I am not even sure if I want to uptune it now.... don't want to too much power dodging trees in the bush.
My last sled was Polaris switchback and I got bored riding trails; and off trail, while it would kick any short track sled, it still was not that good in deep snow. Took Neo+ into the backwoods today, it's perfect. Doesn't beat up my body. Really a joy to come home feeling rejuvenated and just relax after the ride, instead of muscles agonizing for a couple of days as I used had it after muscling a big sled on big rides. I was still very nervous if it would be too little of a sled for me, especially since I rode much bigger and more powerful machines. But after I rode it, I knew that I did make a right choice. I actually rolled my Neo+ on my first outing, landed skis up, and righted it effortlessly, no struggle at all (I am a slim female).
I was a adrenaline junky and snowmobiles were my needle 💉..lol but I became disabled in a workplace injury back in 2003. So my needs are a lil different than most adult sledders, I can't stand so I need something that lays over while seated. This 34" front-end would be cool, I was building a sled with a 32" front-end before I couldn't 🔧 wrench anymore..smh but I'd swap in the 108hp 583's from the late 90's MXZ's under the hood, then put a 165"-175" track possibly using a 15" wide track. I think that'd be awesome 👌 👏 👍! I still have 5 and 1/2 snowmobiles in the shop. ..lol...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Glad to hear you still have the passion for snowmobiling! 👏
@@sleddermag I can't stop thinking about sledding 24-7 FOREVER! I'm a hopeless sledhead! Much to my family's shagrin! They've got lucky that I can't mechanic anymore, but I still have the urge. My ears 👂 hear a 2stroke engine fire up, my head turns, and I'm searching for the sources!.. Speed was my drug, snowmobiles were the needle 💉! Living here we have 8mos of winter, so sledding is a great hobby here. I've still got ALL my old toy's, because I refuse to give them away for penny's. Another project I was working on when I got hurt, was a Suzuki RE5 rotary engine 500cc 2stroke motorcycle 🏍 that I was building for the Bonneville salt 🧂 Flatts, with a goal of 200mph by adding a turbocharger and a lil squirt of nitrous oxide to reach my goal. I've got a garden tractor 🚜 with a Yamaha Virago 750cc v-twin engine for pulling a weighted sled at the fair, and multiple other things that I can't fix up anymore. My grandson is almost 2yrs old, so he's my jocky in training, my daughter isn't thrilled about his love of taking risks, he's a lil stunt baby..lol hope you're having a great spring!..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸🤠
My daughter and I would like to know if we were to take a pair to the mountains for light climbing,will these be ok?riverstoke mountain would be an example
Couple of questions:
can you tell me what you were turning for RPMs on the neo plus?
Can you give me some info on what you used to build your GoPro pole mounts for the front and rear bumpers?
Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
#1 Sorry, we didn't take note of max RPM at the time. Not sure what it should be on paper for this engine configuration.
#2 High tech stuff-1" chunk of dowel and some RAM mounts.
I don´t know if I missed it. How tall are you guys? And your weight, please. Would you say that Skidoo are aiming against youngster with this sleds. I understand that they are lower comparing to other Skidoo models.
Both riders are over 6' tall and 190 lbs-ish. HOWEVER, don't mistake Summit Neo+ as a fully mountain capable option for grown man-children like us.
100% yes, Ski-Doo designed the sled as a stepping stone from a youth sled for youngsters, or as a beginner sled for new riders with mountain aspirations.
Thanks for watching!
No pull start only electric?
Yessir i rented the same type from adventure rentals up in alpine wyoming
Wonder why they don't have the Shot start system?
I imagine these can still be started by spinning the primary clutch! So at least you can do that, by a few different ways..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
how tippy does it feel on trail, need a crossover type for my 12year old daughter the mxz wont cut out needs and want to get away from carbs so the evo rmk wouldnt be idea.
What is better this or artic cat blast 4000?
This cause it’s ski doo
How much do you weigh?
190 lb + riding gear + maybe 20 lbs camera and safety gear on the tunnel
@@sleddermag Thanks for the reply. I weigh 138lbs and 5 feet 11, yeah I weigh nothing. I wonder how steep and deep I could do with this sled. Possibly climb Turnagin on a good day? ( Turnigan pass Alaska).
@@jamespoon2656 If you're comfortable in the mountains and ready to ride some steep and deep, go with something with more track and power. This will get a rider started in riding the mountains and building confidence but its capability is too limited for steep and/or deep stuff. Thanks for watching!
@@jamespoon2656 haven’t tried the summit but the neo + sport is pretty fun for light weight folks. Much easier to get on one ski than the big boys
@@sleddermag hello! New rider seriously considering buying this sled as I'm 5ft 3in 115 lbs. How deep ya think it could go? Ill mostly be riding in NW Montana where we're prob not riding in more than 6-8in of fresh snow.
so full size sled with half power. not understanding where the mid-size other than HP is.
It's not a full sized sled though. Everything is downsized-lower ride height, suspension, seat height, smaller seat, smaller handlebar, riser, etc.
It feels smaller and more manageable than a full sized sled in our experience riding it. 34" ski stance is another key element.
Thanks for watching!
@@sleddermag yeah also minused a spring and a front shock limited ride. I don't understand the idea of giving a beginner snowmobiler less than up to par stuff. terrain is still the same. i'll take the cat version. they actually gave you half the motor. don't have to drive around a bigger engine but choked off. what do i know though, people will still buy this junk.
@@mikeh4053 The point is to make a more affordable sled to allow easier entry into the sport for new riders. It's half the price of a top-of-the-line mountain sled, which would terrify a new rider anyway. Easier to afford, and easier to ride, until the rider has enough experience and confidence to want more performance, at which time it will probably have good resale value. It's a total win for the growth of our sport.
@@sleddermag dont disagree on trying to price point something, and resale. Just saying mid size it is not. Its a stripped down full size sled. Ill take cats offerings where they literally went half the motor, and didnt cheap you out of needed tools to ride compliance. Doo could of went with learner keys but make you buy another to step up for same sled.
@@mikeh4053 Okay, well enjoy that Cat then! It also is a great product for new/young/less experienced/less confident riders.
My wife is interested. Will this thing over heat on the trails? Wife rides slow and stays on trail.
It's like a yamaha phazer with out the reliability lol
Rode 6 kilometres from North Pole never had ice build up
Will race any 600 with my 440 and we go for ownership
Try taking your 440 into the mountain. The Neo isnt built for speed its build for deep snow.
This isn’t for racing. It’s designed to be easy to ride, not scare a kid if they give it the beans and to cold start super easy every time. And it’s going to go years before anyone wrenches on it. Your 440 is very likely faster than a 55hp kids sled, if you want to impress someone go race a turbo 850.
Yup older sleds way better
I will buy a new sled when they stop making such ugly sleds
Never gunna happen the current style will always stay for a reason.
@@crrazdogs3482 I really some of the old sit down type sleds will make a comeback of sorts! Do to being more comfortable, especially on long mile trail dog's, and work machine's to some extent..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
1 spring wow garbage
The laugh is a 20 plus year old 440 will eat new 600s lol waste of money