Very good comparison video! The pioneer is designed to be a main Mid and High speaker. Reason being is Pioneer expects customers buying the G and A series speakers to add subwoofers to complete the sound experience. If you buy the Reference series, those speakers are designed for full range. JBL designes almost all their speakers as full range just like alpine type R and rockford fosgate.
exactly. that's why this 6970 specifically supports sound from 34 hz to 25000 hz. a full support speaker would start from 20 hz. i like the mids and highs on pioneer becuz its more clear and the sound and notes of instruments feel separated. even though jbl is better in term of bass quality but the mids and highs are not clear enough and sound like old radio channels to put it roughly!
i have component speakers. separate tweeters, 2 8 inch rounds and 6x9 in back. all JBL. for me its perfection. i don't like all those little speakers on a 6x9. @@СашаНиколаев-ц4к
So just from reading the comments I gather that the Pioneer is more suited for and really shines with an amp and equalizer? The JBL sounds more complete and fine tuned out the box and the Pioneer sounds like it might beat out the JBL if you tweak the sound in an equalizer.
Have you noticed that the pioneer speaker in the base test IS NOT PUSHING the paper but doing the opposite. I think you miss linked the negative and positive wire . Could you check the video at 11:14 thats why the base is not that great and the speaker sound
the pioneer has stronger 5000 to 8000hz which gives the illusion of clarity but all that does is cause sibilance in a car door. while the JBL actually had better response above 10khz which allows a lot more airiness while smoothing out the sibilance range which will sound way smoother and higher quality IRL.
JBLs are great if you have a separate tiny tweeter on the door. i will always have a little tweeter now. it seaerates the highs perfectly. once u know you know.
Amazing! Im planning to get the JBL CLUB 9632 for front+back (they are 3 way coax) just bc I don't think I can add a sub behind me in one of the rear seat 6x9, or maybe I can. And then do 2x club 9632 in the front and also 2 dash speakers thinking Kicker 47KSC3504 good price and good sound!
get component speakers so u have separate tiny tweeters. i got JBL components and the highs are so good. it sounds like i have a small sub even tho i don't.
I'd say that the Pioneer produces more sound, and the highs are more. The Pioneer bass sounds good, but sounds like a little over powered, probably, which makes distortion, but the bass sounds different than the JBL. The JBL is clear, but a little muffled to me, probably because of its sensitivity or something. The JBL bass sounds good, controlled , but it seems like the JBL has less excursion, maybe. I haven't looked up the specs on them, so I'm just using the vid to see what I think. I'm not sure what you are talking about when you talk about the Pioneer's air distribution.
@cybernaab I agree. There aren't really too many, but today there are 6.5"/6x9 that go pretty low. It seems Pioneer or other brands not that common in car audio, like Peerless, has more 6.5"s that go low, like down into the 30s, and I have seen blog posts of people actually complaining that they make too much bass. For me, I'd prefer the 6.5"s that have a wide frequency response and drop pretty low to get as much bass out of them as I can. -----Ya ... those boxes are likely not a good combo. He also uses the same boxes for all the speakers, which obviously we wouldn't do in the real world. But, I suppose he doesn't want to invest in various size boxes. But anyway, those speaker don't need a box anyway, realistically. So to boot with that.
I have an 8inch pioneer low profile TS series Sub in my single cab Dakota and it shakes the side view mirrors, that thing kicks hard & deep clean bass. When I saw the low profile TS type 6x9s I got them for my van to compliment a 12inch Pyle sub I just put in. The sub is pretty good, but I'm going to add my Pioneer 8inch to the setup, cause things ain't shaking yet. Anyway, if the 6x9s are as good as the 8inch sub, I'm gonna be making up reasons to drive around.
In the middle tone pioneer is best, i dont want a good bass on a speaker cause i have a good subwoofer, then the best choice for complete mi set audio sistem in this case its the pioneer.
Es importante el full rango también, ya que te da un tono más. Profundo al momento de la voz o en la música. Yo usaría los medios rangos sólo para voz. Y los full rangos para darle más profundidad a la melodia.
Thanks for your videos!! Really you are helpful!! When looking for aftermarket speakers for the quality!! Seriously thanks would love to see a video on the Rockville component 6X9's!! If you ever get the chance please!!?!?💯😳👌👍👍👍
There is a problem. Pioneer are not using the same materials in his TS-A speakers line. Search por TS-A speakers with "Multilayer Mica Matrix" or something like that from previous models.
alot of these speakers are operation in a free air situation. to get the best of them the deck needs to have crossovers to meld them with the subs you should be running. cancel out the bass 80hz to 120hz down. let the subs take up that spectrum
I bought a pair of JBL 9632 and GTO939 about a month ago. I put the Club 9632 in the rear doors and the GTO939 in the front doors, The GTO939 100 % better clearer and louder. The 9632 sound like a pillow on top of them compared to the GT0939.
Try some cerwin Vega’ s I have a pair of pro 6x9’s and can hit 117-120 dB at a true 3’ on the spl meter which would make them sound twice as loud as any I have seen in any of your videos
Does the 3ohm JBL vs the 4ohm pioneer make that much of a difference on a factory radio? I think JBL uses that as a selling point to get the most out a factory head unit be being a 3ohm speaker, but I don’t know if that is true.
Hi there! I need some advice, since I bought my car I have wanted to replace the speakers in the panels of each door. I have been for some within my budget and have come up with two options A) Pioneer Ts-f1634r B) JBL FLEX 3 Both are 6 inches since I have is the only measurement that allows space in each door. My goal is to have a sound that is nothing out of the ordinary that lasts over time.
Hi! Both speakers very entry they will sound almost the same as stock speakers. Ether one will be ok My suggestions is add some money and get JBL club or one model higher on pioneer
I almost bought the Polk audio mm6516.5” and the Polk dB 6x9” the expensive one, but instead, I went for jbl club 6.5” 620f and the jbl club 6x9” 9630! And I am going to put an amp to see how it sounds. Can’t wait to hear how it sounds in my 2016 Kia Forte5 ex hatchback !
Hey bro thank you for your time and comment. Actually I hate to advertise any brand or style thats why I always keep my reviews unscripted and real expressions and truthful If you dont belive me feel free to order both and see your self)
You know that the pioneer mids is not a bass speaker?it is a mid speaker thats why it will not make any bass but for vocal it will be very good but jbl is a bass speaker
Those jbl club 9630 speakers cost $79.99 they’re the newest jbl speakers , and those pioneers a6970f cost $72.75 are 2 years old but still better than those jbl , for me pioneers sound better , nice bass I love it 😋👌 ordering then rn 😅
That's good to know, because I bout some jbl 6x8 because people in best buy told me the 6x9 were too big for my 1997 and those JBL clubs that are in this video are the ones I wanted , maybe I'll change them for the 6x9.
get a clip meter or cheap oscilloscope I will bet ya your clipping the signal when you turn that phone past 65% to 75% volume you should be able to run RMS plus 1/3 RMS in a sealed box meaning say it rated 100wRMS it will handle 133.5wRMS in a seal box with no problem put if any clipping happens it will build heat till the voice coil or the glue holding the coil fails and all JBL are full range and use super good glue unlike lower $ Pioneer use crap coils and glue on all there speakers but that said iv been running the older model of this Pioneer on a Rockford Fosgate T600.4 for 9yrs properly crossed over and getting double the rated RMS with out a hiccup at all. thanks for sharing
मैने 2 दिन पहले pioneer ts 490 fh 650 watts 100 watts rms speakers खरीदे हैं। भाई quality बहुत घटिया हैं। मेरे 3600 रूपए बर्बाद हो गए। I am going to buy sony speakers. As earlier I was using sony speakers.
And why is that so, if it s up to me , who i m listening this style of music... one makes the job better than the other for me, simple as that, or isn t it !?
Lol. In the old days JBL VS Pioneer lol a fights ove in car audio setup. Today alle new speakere are crap. JBL , Pioneer Both are now the same company by one owner. Think news generatie gone sound more the same. For those the old Pioneer is more mide base. Best for a clean setup with a woofer systeem. Subwoofer have to be clean around 64 Hz and the speakers have to pick IT up. For a subwoofer i use a JBL than a Pioneer
lol ridiculous comparison. for starters any music played by either speaker is going to be contorted by the speaker you are listening on. The only comparison is too listen to them live and even then if your putting them in a car, you need them in your car. A box won't equal actual in car sound. In addition taste is relative ie I think the pioneer has much better sound because it is my preference, I like the mid with soft bass and relative good highs. Others want to blow their brains out with just bass, like all the morons at the red light. Again another point being - Pioneer designs their systems to be a system, a 6 x9 on its own is nothing, Kind of like having a pitcher but no outfield. The JBL is designed to be a pitcher and third baseman. Neither are true nor accurate comparisons of the speaker capabilities.
Very good comparison video! The pioneer is designed to be a main Mid and High speaker. Reason being is Pioneer expects customers buying the G and A series speakers to add subwoofers to complete the sound experience. If you buy the Reference series, those speakers are designed for full range. JBL designes almost all their speakers as full range just like alpine type R and rockford fosgate.
exactly. that's why this 6970 specifically supports sound from 34 hz to 25000 hz. a full support speaker would start from 20 hz. i like the mids and highs on pioneer becuz its more clear and the sound and notes of instruments feel separated. even though jbl is better in term of bass quality but the mids and highs are not clear enough and sound like old radio channels to put it roughly!
Истину глаголите!!!👍
i have component speakers. separate tweeters, 2 8 inch rounds and 6x9 in back. all JBL. for me its perfection. i don't like all those little speakers on a 6x9.
@@СашаНиколаев-ц4к
Exactly! 👍
Super nice setup loving it keep up the good work!😍
Bought JBL and... few hours later listening this battle only makes me feel good :) , awesome work and video, thanks mate and greetings from Estonia!
Ps! Loved the music ;) !
JBLs are the best. i have seperate tiny tweeters to handle the high notes.
So just from reading the comments I gather that the Pioneer is more suited for and really shines with an amp and equalizer? The JBL sounds more complete and fine tuned out the box and the Pioneer sounds like it might beat out the JBL if you tweak the sound in an equalizer.
You should continue making videos with this jbl speaker to see how this cheaper one does with expensive ones
Have you noticed that the pioneer speaker in the base test IS NOT PUSHING the paper but doing the opposite. I think you miss linked the negative and positive wire . Could you check the video at 11:14 thats why the base is not that great and the speaker sound
Excellent comparison, it seemed like the pioneer was just a tad clearer, but the bass was just a tad more muddled/buzzy vs the JBL.
the pioneer has stronger 5000 to 8000hz which gives the illusion of clarity but all that does is cause sibilance in a car door. while the JBL actually had better response above 10khz which allows a lot more airiness while smoothing out the sibilance range which will sound way smoother and higher quality IRL.
JBLs are great if you have a separate tiny tweeter on the door. i will always have a little tweeter now. it seaerates the highs perfectly. once u know you know.
Amazing! Im planning to get the JBL CLUB 9632 for front+back (they are 3 way coax) just bc I don't think I can add a sub behind me in one of the rear seat 6x9, or maybe I can. And then do 2x club 9632 in the front and also 2 dash speakers thinking Kicker 47KSC3504 good price and good sound!
Soooo close, but JBL has more bass capacity. Pioneer is brighter. Tough decision, great comparison video!!
get component speakers so u have separate tiny tweeters. i got JBL components and the highs are so good. it sounds like i have a small sub even tho i don't.
I'd say that the Pioneer produces more sound, and the highs are more. The Pioneer bass sounds good, but sounds like a little over powered, probably, which makes distortion, but the bass sounds different than the JBL. The JBL is clear, but a little muffled to me, probably because of its sensitivity or something. The JBL bass sounds good, controlled , but it seems like the JBL has less excursion, maybe.
I haven't looked up the specs on them, so I'm just using the vid to see what I think.
I'm not sure what you are talking about when you talk about the Pioneer's air distribution.
@cybernaab I agree. There aren't really too many, but today there are 6.5"/6x9 that go pretty low. It seems Pioneer or other brands not that common in car audio, like Peerless, has more 6.5"s that go low, like down into the 30s, and I have seen blog posts of people actually complaining that they make too much bass. For me, I'd prefer the 6.5"s that have a wide frequency response and drop pretty low to get as much bass out of them as I can.
-----Ya ... those boxes are likely not a good combo. He also uses the same boxes for all the speakers, which obviously we wouldn't do in the real world. But, I suppose he doesn't want to invest in various size boxes. But anyway, those speaker don't need a box anyway, realistically. So to boot with that.
Pioneer mids is not made for bass remember that ! but if you want bass you need to get their subwoofer and jbl focus on bass on their speakers
I like the pioneer better midrange for jazz music.
Bass !!!!
I have an 8inch pioneer low profile TS series Sub in my single cab Dakota and it shakes the side view mirrors, that thing kicks hard & deep clean bass. When I saw the low profile TS type 6x9s I got them for my van to compliment a 12inch Pyle sub I just put in. The sub is pretty good, but I'm going to add my Pioneer 8inch to the setup, cause things ain't shaking yet. Anyway, if the 6x9s are as good as the 8inch sub, I'm gonna be making up reasons to drive around.
😂👍
In the middle tone pioneer is best, i dont want a good bass on a speaker cause i have a good subwoofer, then the best choice for complete mi set audio sistem in this case its the pioneer.
Es importante el full rango también, ya que te da un tono más. Profundo al momento de la voz o en la música. Yo usaría los medios rangos sólo para voz. Y los full rangos para darle más profundidad a la melodia.
at the 3:08 mark he stated there was not a pioneer logo on the cover?? Other than that decent comparison
When we get to hear the Cerwin Vega vega series speakers
When those clowns start to make a 74-way speaker? I can't freakin wait, it should sound like a voice of Ktulhu!
😂😂👍
Which do you perfer jbl stage or jbl club?
Thanks a lot U R AWESOME
queria saber si lo amplificaste a los 6*9 o si solo con el celular lo estabas moviendo espero tu respuesta gracias
Cuántos años tienes
Pioneer was so great in the past!
Thanks for your videos!! Really you are helpful!! When looking for aftermarket speakers for the quality!! Seriously thanks would love to see a video on the Rockville component 6X9's!! If you ever get the chance please!!?!?💯😳👌👍👍👍
There is a problem. Pioneer are not using the same materials in his TS-A speakers line. Search por TS-A speakers with "Multilayer Mica Matrix" or something like that from previous models.
Yeah you right back days pioneers had good speakers but now only few of them left
The Pioneer sounds definitely best
Can u do stock speakers vs jbl gto 939 or jbl gx963 vs gto939
i think the + and - speakers wires are inverted the movement of spekers is down when base punsh
Brooo test Jbl gx9630 vs Jbl Gt0 939 premium !!! Please broo , very intersting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do it
alot of these speakers are operation in a free air situation. to get the best of them the deck needs to have crossovers to meld them with the subs you should be running. cancel out the bass 80hz to 120hz down. let the subs take up that spectrum
6x9 speakers,i am using 2000w Kenwood 6909 speakers with carrozaria double din stereo but it doesn't give me a good sound.
Jbl audio vs digital designs ?
I bought a pair of JBL 9632 and GTO939 about a month ago. I put the Club 9632 in the rear doors and the GTO939 in the front doors, The GTO939 100 % better clearer and louder. The 9632 sound like a pillow on top of them compared to the GT0939.
take off the silicon mesh behind the cover slip. it sounds much better.
Try some cerwin Vega’ s I have a pair of pro 6x9’s and can hit 117-120 dB at a true 3’ on the spl meter which would make them sound twice as loud as any I have seen in any of your videos
Can you try some Sony speakers? like XS-XB6951
Excellent job... Thanks
Jbl club 6930 vs Kenwood KFC x694 you should compare them both , like seeing your videos soon I'll be getting my future car audio
Or kenwood KFC x693 3 way
jbl gto 939 VS sony gs 6921 ??
Does the 3ohm JBL vs the 4ohm pioneer make that much of a difference on a factory radio? I think JBL uses that as a selling point to get the most out a factory head unit be being a 3ohm speaker, but I don’t know if that is true.
It helps if that’s the only speaker connected to that channel
If you have two then the impedance will drop too low and you will burn your shit
Nice video i just bought the pioneers speakers for my truck
how is the bass does it have a deep nice bass
Is the bass good on the Pioneer speakers?
pionner tsa6970f vs rockford P169X2 pleace!!
Please link to buy jbl 9630 premium
www.amazon.com/dp/B084H55G97/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_EfjmFbW2JNF4J
Thanx alot
Hi there!
I need some advice, since I bought my car I have wanted to replace the speakers in the panels of each door. I have been for some within my budget and have come up with two options
A) Pioneer Ts-f1634r
B) JBL FLEX 3
Both are 6 inches since I have is the only measurement that allows space in each door. My goal is to have a sound that is nothing out of the ordinary that lasts over time.
Hi! Both speakers very entry they will sound almost the same as stock speakers. Ether one will be ok
My suggestions is add some money and get JBL club or one model higher on pioneer
@@LIFEINSPEED can you recommend the best speaker without using of separate amplifier,just direct connection to the factory head unit sir.
What is the best?
If with amp Kappa if no amp jbl gto
@@LIFEINSPEED thanks!
For some reason the 3 way sounded more cleat then the 5 way. Maybe because I don't have head phones on
Thank you
I almost bought the Polk audio mm6516.5” and the Polk dB 6x9” the expensive one, but instead, I went for jbl club 6.5” 620f and the jbl club 6x9” 9630! And I am going to put an amp to see how it sounds. Can’t wait to hear how it sounds in my 2016 Kia Forte5 ex hatchback !
Pioneer 🤙🏻
Pioneer it is !
Pioneer are shit good in the 80’s
Pioneer still the best for me now and in the back days. this guy supports jbl speakers only
Hey bro thank you for your time and comment. Actually I hate to advertise any brand or style thats why I always keep my reviews unscripted and real expressions and truthful
If you dont belive me feel free to order both and see your self)
well this pioneer is an upgread from my factor..... BUT my factory speakers cna really hit the low notes far far better.... but i wouldn't but it
Pioneer win,, 😋😍
Pioneer más ruido y agudos . Jbl más fidelidad. Me quedo con JBL
You know that the pioneer mids is not a bass speaker?it is a mid speaker thats why it will not make any bass but for vocal it will be very good but jbl is a bass speaker
JBL хороши и без саба хотя им не хватает высоты звука, но Pioneer будут играть шире и лучше с сабвуфером!!!
Nice
PİONEER 6975V3-V2
KENWOOD KFC 6995 PS
JBL DECADE T595
SONY GS 6921
would you try
Sony Gs would blow them away
Will do them too
pioneer best in vocals while jbl best in base
PIONEER
Pioneer 💪💪💪👍
Those jbl club 9630 speakers cost $79.99 they’re the newest jbl speakers , and those pioneers a6970f cost $72.75 are 2 years old but still better than those jbl , for me pioneers sound better , nice bass I love it 😋👌 ordering then rn 😅
Pioneer sounds music more live.
I decided pionner.
Cant go wrong with jbl
Jbl👍👍👍
The JBL wins.
JBL always has great sound🔥
Does any of these speakers fit in a 1997 f-150?
Jose Manzo jbl gto 5x7/6x9 fit and sound great in f150. I had a pioneer head unit with mine.
That's good to know, because I bout some jbl 6x8 because people in best buy told me the 6x9 were too big for my 1997 and those JBL clubs that are in this video are the ones I wanted , maybe I'll change them for the 6x9.
JBL sounded warm.
Pioneer had suppressed mids.
JBL nailed it
Test B2 audio 6x9
get a clip meter or cheap oscilloscope I will bet ya your clipping the signal when you turn that phone past 65% to 75% volume you should be able to run RMS plus 1/3 RMS in a sealed box meaning say it rated 100wRMS it will handle 133.5wRMS in a seal box with no problem put if any clipping happens it will build heat till the voice coil or the glue holding the coil fails and all JBL are full range and use super good glue unlike lower $ Pioneer use crap coils and glue on all there speakers but that said iv been running the older model of this Pioneer on a Rockford Fosgate T600.4 for 9yrs properly crossed over and getting double the rated RMS with out a hiccup at all. thanks for sharing
Pioneer sony alpine 🤴 of 🔊
Good comparisom
Awesome job ❤️🇮🇷❤️ from iran
Ha Newer tought someone will watch my videos from that far 👍
@@LIFEINSPEED im from iran too man i watch ur video and decid to buy jbl 9630 , perfect one i wanted more details with best bass ty
मैने 2 दिन पहले pioneer ts 490 fh 650 watts
100 watts rms speakers खरीदे हैं। भाई quality बहुत घटिया हैं। मेरे 3600 रूपए बर्बाद हो गए। I am going to buy sony speakers.
As earlier I was using sony speakers.
The music you use dont help to make a good comparison
And why is that so, if it s up to me , who i m listening this style of music... one makes the job better than the other for me, simple as that, or isn t it !?
Which is better : Pioneer TS-A6990F (or) Pioneer TS-A6976S
your fan from syria 👍
#Pioneer 🔊🎶🫡
From phone speaker pioneer sounds better but from portable bose speaker now I can hear pioneer much worse than jbl.
Lol. In the old days JBL VS Pioneer lol a fights ove in car audio setup. Today alle new speakere are crap. JBL , Pioneer Both are now the same company by one owner.
Think news generatie gone sound more the same.
For those the old Pioneer is more mide base. Best for a clean setup with a woofer systeem. Subwoofer have to be clean around 64 Hz and the speakers have to pick IT up.
For a subwoofer i use a JBL than a Pioneer
SONY wins ;) No need to fight
jbl has more clarity
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mıknatıs küçük ses kalitesi 0 işe yaramaz eski seri devam
JBL 👍 no doubt. Those pioneers sound worse than factory
Pioneer sound more clear but the winner is Sony XB6951 , not pioneer nor jbl
Pioneer for the front Jbl for the back.🤣🤣
JBL for the win
Like jbl club
Tinha que ter mais rms no minimo 220 rms
E probado los dos y jbl me jode los oídos pioneer es superior más calidad de sonido
Jbl is better
just JBL AUDIO CAR
The pioneer sounds like trash. They should stick to making head units.
Jbl sounds like its broken!
The Pioneer sound is just quality and details.
You needa switch up your music lol it’s always the same
Suena mejor los jbl, de lejos más calidad
Those pioneer sound ass!
lol ridiculous comparison. for starters any music played by either speaker is going to be contorted by the speaker you are listening on. The only comparison is too listen to them live and even then if your putting them in a car, you need them in your car. A box won't equal actual in car sound.
In addition taste is relative ie I think the pioneer has much better sound because it is my preference, I like the mid with soft bass and relative good highs. Others want to blow their brains out with just bass, like all the morons at the red light.
Again another point being - Pioneer designs their systems to be a system, a 6 x9 on its own is nothing, Kind of like having a pitcher but no outfield. The JBL is designed to be a pitcher and third baseman. Neither are true nor accurate comparisons of the speaker capabilities.
jbl is a clear win over the pioneers in terms of BASS and more rounded sound. CLEAR WIN for JBL
the A 6970 or infinity refference 9633ix?
go with Sony XB6951
@@enisgenco sony? naaaaahhhh. thats not so common here. and they are not as good as Hertz, focal, pioneer, JBL/infinity, kicker IMO.
@@yan5362 Where do you live ? India?
@@enisgenco nopes. mauritius island. why?