Have you seen the video of the first responder who was right outside the South Tower lobby working on someone and heard the collapse and ran into the Marriott and survived? I wish I could find that video. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please link it. Thank you.
ua-cam.com/video/KUQSJiqfmUY/v-deo.html This is an interview where he talks about it, about 37 mins in is where he talks about the collapse and running into the Marriott, grabbing a vertical column and simply holding on for his life
They actually found one peice of the antenna that they put in the 9/11 museum. Also, there was a guy who got to the lobby when the north tower fell, he unfortunately didn't make it but it's remarkable thinking he did almost make it
Moria Smith survived the South Tower collapse from inside the South Tower lobby. The people that saw her while escaping said she was leading people from the stairwell to the direction they needed to go from there. After the south tower collapse she radioed in and gave her position, there is a tape recording of that conversation on youtube. She most likely ran for the stairwell for cover. She likely survived in the stairwell for the same reason that those in stairwell B in the North Tower survived. After about two minutes she went silent though, and likely died. But she survived the initial collapse. It’s possible some other people survived in the south tower lower stairwell too, but the north tower would’ve fell directly onto them and killed them.
The people that survived in the North Tower in Stairway B did so because that area had been reinforced during the bombing a few years earlier , or at least it helped .
2:02 the people in that lobby were either firefighters, police, emergency services doing what they were trained to do and very bravely at that. The other people were the workers coming down to get out of the building and they had no choice in the matter. If you look at the firefighter's faces as they are coming in the building and going up the stairs you can see that they knew what they were walking in to and still marched up the stairs. RESPECT TO THE FULLEST! Also want to add that most of the rescue people would never in a million years be there if it was not their sworn duty and that had to be hard to think that today is the day. Man I am still saddened by that day. ALways will be.
I guessing the people inside had no idea.. one second they were coming down the stairs and next the floors above just smashed them into the concrete below. They never felt anything.
They used an elevator to get to the impact zone on the South tower. They actually started to put a few fires out before it collapsed. Also a group of firefighters got stuck in that same elevator. We know all of this from their radio traffic
It would take 1.6 seconds to perceive and react to the collapse. 1.6 seconds is called the perception reaction time, the time it takes your brain to perceive and react. But first you'd have to be at the door to run out and understand what was occurring (the building collapsing). You'd have less than 6-7 seconds to run, which would be impossible as you said.
@@POPJack1717 Well actually it took more like 16 seconds. The 10 second figure is the time it took for "the first exterior panels" to reach the ground. NIST has fostered this confusion by giving the 10-second number in both contexts at different times. That said, would you even perceive the building was collapsing at first? But still doubtful anyone would get out, and then you'd have to run fast or potentially get killed by all the debris falling outside near the entrance.
Total safety in the underground mall? The only people that survived in that region close to where the towers were when they fell were the two port authority officers that the Nicolas Cage movie was about. They were located directly below where the fountain was in the plaza
probably not, because you'd still be in the footprint of the building. You should do a video about the only murder in New York on 9/11. The murder of Henryk Siwiak is still unsolved to this day.
@@_Breakdown He was a Polish immigrant murdered on the night of 9/11 while commuting to a new job. He took a wrong exit which lead him to a dangerous part of town and he was shot and died on the scene. It's a cold case today as a suspect has never been found.
I’m forcing myself to watch or just listen to it just now. I was on Broadway on my bicycle. I heard the first strike, heard various explosions, turned to get over to Houston St. where I was subletting. I saw the second strike, grabbed some stuff, put my cat in a gym bag and bungee corded him in the front basket, and headed north. I lost a half dozen friends, including a homeless lady named Donna who lived in the mall, plus at least 25 colleagues. I’ve placed that entire morning to midday in the farthest corner of the top shelf of my memory closet. I’m just now taking it out a little at a time now that I’m retired, my parents and all but one sibling have passed.
I know he has mentioned riding the antenna down before, but i wonder if there was any way to survive the collapse if you were above the impact zone. My gut says no, since nobody did. I remember thinking we would. I remember thinking there would be more miracle cases of survival. I was actually surprised they were so few. Guess it shows how unsurvivable it was. I've always just wondered if it was even possible, though. That flight attendant in yugoslavia, in the seventies, survived falling from 30,000 feet, so i thought just maybe there could be some set of circumstances that were crazy enough to happen for someone to survive. But I guess they didn't happen.
YES THERE WAS 1 WOMAN 👩🦱🧍♀️WHO SURVIVED THE JUMP; there’s a video documentary of the DOCTOR 👨🏼⚕️ who found her. She was apparently mangled from the waist down (but didn’t realize it). She said to him “I’M NOT DEAD,” - - but - - his job was to place different colored “tags” on the people he found. (i.e. - red 🔴 means urgent, green 🟢 means not-urgent, yellow 🟡 means not-able-to-be saved); he deemed her condition “not able to be saved.” But the video shows how he was haunted by the memory. When he passed her in the rubble he thought she was dead - but he claims she looked at him and said “I’m not dead.” (Why he didn’t try to save her is beyond my understanding - - but you can find the documentary with his testimony. It’s really probably the creepiest thing I’ve ever heard - but that is the true account). And yes, I’m aware of that woman 👱🏼♀️🧍🏼♀️ who survived falling from the airplane ✈️ at 30,000 feet and surviving - - so I’d say your suspicion is very valid. God Bless.🕊
@@POPJack1717 the videos on Empire State Building antenna maintenance say they wait until after all the radio and tv stations power down to enter the antenna area.
No you wouldn't be dragging a hose that high you would be using stand pipes on the floors that they could connect to that weren't damaged below the impact areas. A stand pipe is a water supply connection within buildings that engines would connect to that pumps water to the inside hose connections for firefighting operations.
@depressed ginger can you discussed the possibility of fifth plane which is made documentary by tmz. I heard the plane was cancelled before take off because the action of FAA but the terrorist escape immediately the plane leaving their belongings with box cutter inside the plane and they believe it’s target is the White House while flight 93 would be the us capitol
I wanna say if I remember correctly there were people who survived in the south tower lobby during the collapse who didn't realize initially the entire tower had come down.
That first shot was prior to 1980. Lost lots of friends in T-2, (FDNY). Many were (L-4) were opening up every elevator to search for victims. We were taught the best place to be and escape from a collapse is from the corners at an angle. Even if you escape the sidewalk, any spot within the shadow of a wall will be in the collapse zone of the debris field, (bricks, chunks of concrete or debris). NYPD knew the collapse was coming and anyone who could get away did. We had different radios. In interviews for my book, FFs told me they heard the S Tower as it was collapsing and it "passed them by", crashing into the ground. The highest floor guys escaped from from my knowledge was 34. As to hoselines, we carry folded hose into Hi-rise and connect to the Bldg standpipe for water. (All had been severed in T-1.) Videos show people being killed by flying debris 2 blocks from the Towers. One Elevator was working in T-2 and was used to skylobby to remove victims and bring FFs part way up. The collapse of T-2 wrecked the lobby of T-1 including the stairways. Dozens of our guys died in those stairs because their escape was obstructed. See my detailed work, MY TURN ON THE FIRELINES 1980-2003 for more info
Interesting fact is there was a story on survivors on the 91st of the north tower, basically these people were the cut off point from the 92nd floor and above. Would be great if you did a video on this.
The video is more if you'd be able to survive running out of either tower into the plaza and avoid being hit by the tower collapsing not if you hunkered down inside
Interview of a first responder who was directly outside the South Tower lobby and heard the collapse happening from above and ran into the Marriott and survived: ua-cam.com/video/KUQSJiqfmUY/v-deo.html
Like most here, I've seen a lot of content and stories regarding 9/11 but this interview honestly caught me off guard. Some of the things he recalls in it I've never seen repeated anywhere else. I'd recommend everyone watch it from start to finish.
Can you do a video on the man with the red bandana. Once he found the open stairwell in the south tower, he went up and down to rescue, and its a wild story the way it happened.
You should do a vid on Cantor Fitzgerald. My Uncle Frank was on those floor’s unfortunately and they lost most of the staff. Appreciate you doing these videos
Skyscrapers should be build as high as the tallest rescue ladders go. It must be terrible for rescuers to realize that they could not save people above the crash. It’s hard for me to listen to the 911 calls from those floors and be told “they are coming for you” 😞
The reports were the floors were crumbling way before the collapse. So when the collapse started I can imagine the internal floors etc inverted. Kinda like having a chair pulled from under you.
Well there were some survivors of the south tower collapse mainly the PAPD officers with five officers in the direct line of sight of the lobby seeing the collapse two officers ended up dying in the collapse of tower 2 and the third officer died in the north tower collapse. The last Two officers survived the collapse and were rescued hours after the collapse. Their story got turned into an Oliver stone film in 2006.
Could you do a video showing underground exits for escape from WTC 1 and 2? A lot of people were led to safety by avoiding the plaza and taking the concourse to street level, or using the mall level to exit from under the Marriott or smaller WTC buildings. If you've made this video already, could you give the title?
Even if you managed to get far enough away from the falling debris from the building, you probably wouldn't have been able to outrun the massive cloud of toxic fumes and smoke that formed immediately after the building collapsed.
I know this sounds silly but what if there were zip lines that could hook to other buildings to evacuate peoole or some type if slides that pop out from the windows? I was thinking about the parachute theory ect. & started wondering about zip lines.
They'd have to be pre-installed and ready to go, meaning the towers would be surrounded with hanging steel cables for emergency escape. I imagine the liability and red tape around something like that would be damn near insurmountable. I worked for a spring and summer season as a zipline tour guide and a lot can go wrong. Even on a mild slope, people can build up tremendous speed and energy on a zipline. From those heights, you'd need an extraordinary braking system, and a crew to man it, to even consider taking an adult (especially Americans) down a zipline alive. I don't see it ever happening.
Firefighter Orio Palmer repaired an elevator in the south tower and took it to the 40th floor other firefighters in the south tower attempted to use elevators but were trapped and attempted to break out through the wall just before collapse.
The firefighters in the North Tower lobby got about 50 feet to the escalators as the South Tower fell. The lobby filled with smoke. There is video of it. They would have died if it was the North Tower falling on them. So it's highly unlikely.
Have a question you think they wouldve put the fire out if the fire men sprayed foam on the fores in helicopters since foam works on jet fuel rather then water?
5:45 So the top did actually pancake on itself, its can be seen the best during the collapse of the North Tower, and the top was completely destroyed before hitting the ground
You have to remember, it did not perfectly collapse in a symmetrical manner. Meaning, as the structure gives way, the floors would instantly collapse inwards and basically turns into a black hole sucking everything inwards. The exterior walls would bend and all glass shattering, floor’s caving in. The antenna probably began to break apart within the first 2-3 seconds. It’s not a perfect pancaking, it’s pulling inwards and everything is destroyed before reaching the bottom. It’s horrifying to think that anyone still alive on the upper floors would have been sucked into the cratering dark black holes of the floor’s caving in while everything around them sounds like it’s exploding as the building collapses.
I saw one angle from the South where the antennae disappears for a second, and then you can see it again as it topples to the south. There's not a lot of footage of the North Tower collapse from the south - most of it is from the northern side.
I have a very stupid question but when flight 11 hit the north tower,did anyone evacuating both skyscrapers before the second hit get the chance to go to the basement garage, retrieve their personal car and just drive out?? i honestly think some people did this💀
I don't recall what the video was called. There was 9/11 video of family member trying to fine her son body. During the clean up of wtc. In interview she said she talked to her son before the towers collapsed and he was in the lobby helping people. They did fine his body it was outside of the building . The mother had an autopsy done and showed that the body was disfigured badly and had large amounts of Shard glass through it. I am guessing anyone in the lobby during the during the collapse would have been blown out of there due to the tremendous air pressure shooting down the building while it was collapsing
Possibly if right in the doorway, ran like hell, and somehow dodged the debris-OR-got below into the mall near a set of stairs? It seems highly unlikely, but miracles do occur.
I feel like the firefighters were telling everyone to stay put so they could get up the stairwells if nothing else they were at least clogging up the stairwells and using an elevator the people could have otherwise been using to evacuate. They should have just evacuated every person they could right away instead of trying to be heroes and put out a fire that has obviously progressed too far to be put out. I know for certain from a documentary i saw, the firefighters were not allowing people to leave through the front entrance due to jumpers, they had to go way around, they could have saved way more people than they did had that been their primary goal instead of trying to save the building. People were literally being told to stay.
I would like it if you displayed a picture of what you are talking about when you're referencing a photo. for example, at 3:18 you could put up the image. I think people who've never seen it would appreciate it. I noticed you've missed opportunities to do that in other videos. Just an idea for future uploads.
I highly doubt that survival in the lobby would be possible as the more the floors pancaked, the heavier and quicker the weight coming down would be. Just my opinion, what do y’all think?
Could you make a video on the major communication failures of the American defense services on September 11, 2001? While they knew that the first plane had been hijacked well before it crashed into the North Tower, I find it absurd that there was no communication to the security of the World Trade Center that it was a terrorist attack.. So they could have immediately evacuated the south tower. Instead, they sent a message to people to stay in the South Tower!.. How many lives could have been saved that day with a simple attack alert message in the south tower... I find this subject shocking and a video about it would be great :)
Pretty sure you are incorrect about the restaurant. Everything broke up and vaporized on the way down including the floors above the impact zone of the North building 🙄‼️
@@alisonschmitt9533 Maybe vapourized was a bit strong😂‼️But the floors above the impact zone did not arrive at the bottom in one piece and fall apart there that’s for sure.
If you are inside the north tower lobby and south tower collapse you have 10 seconds to run to the first floor firefighters had to run to the first floor as fast as they can they only had 10 seconds to escape the lobby area
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 it did , just like 90% of the bodies ( you know, the ones missing from ground zero, three thousand that were never recovered)
Windows on the world was on fire for 102 minutes. I'm sure it was destroyed along with hundreds of people before the collapse. Also hundreds of people had to jump from that floor
They acted like they didn’t know evacuation was mandatory until the first building fell? Another strange thing about this incident. I’ve even heard people were told they couldn’t leave. Sounds like a way to achieve max casualty, just saying. Anyways, great video just sharing my two cents y’all keep your cool now. ✌️
You would’ve struggled to even get in the mall cause that got destroyed upon the south tower collapse the movie World Trade Center depicted what happened after the collapse of the south tower in the mall
Running into the stairwell was the only chance. Moria Smith survived the South Tower collapse for about 5 minutes from doing that. She bled out but she almost made it
@@cchris874 16 seconds until the lobby was destroyed, but 10 until the first pieces hit the ground, which would have crushed people making a run for it.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 Agreed . But that means the lobby itself may still have been sustainable for 6 extra seconds, just saying, since everyone keeps saying 10 seconds. NIST is to blame for being so sloppy in their assessment.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 would crushing a body make it disappear? 90% of the bodies have never been recovered , not possible in a building collapse according to world history.
@@Matt-pt6rl Obviously. Tonnes of steel falling over a thousand feet is going to cause a body to disintegrate. Don't give me this "not possible" nonsense - world history is incapable of proving anything. There is not another single event in history that is relevant.
The dropped burning eraser of a pencil won’t crush a wood pencil beneath it. Try it at home. The impact zone is 800 feet above the ground level. The elevators were staggered and not straight down to ground level. How did explosive energy travel between disconnected shafts? Why did the 47 unaffected lower core columns collapse? They were bolted and welded together thousands of times. What force tore them apart. A backyard swimming pool of kerosene?
It takes analytics a while to update. When I put videos out, my side says 100 after a minute or so & then jumps very high to like 700-900 views. UA-cam analytics are sometimes delayed. Plus it's a Sunday morning. Everyone is sleeping.
I don't think he doing this overkill , I think he is like a reporter, or a history channel narrator. He also talks about Right vs Left. Which is totally different then 9/11.
Even if you traveled back in time and were placed in the lobby and knew the exact second to start running as the building begins to collapse, not enough time to get far enough away to survive (especially the South tower). The buildings just collapsed too quickly to physically get far enough away. Think about it- you’re in the lobby and you run at the exact moment collapse starts. You have 10s (South tower) or 13s (North tower) to run. How far can a human run in 10s? Assuming a completely straight path with no debris to run over/around or possibly even trip over? Usain Bolt’s Top speed was 10m/s. That’s a distance of 100m in the 10s. Is that even far enough away to get to safety? Also, that’s Usain in a straight line with good shoes and good conditions. The towers on 9/11 are far from good conditions. My answer on this is a firm NO. If you’re in the buildings during collapse, you’re only hope for survival is being in a lucky “caccoon” like the people in stairway B of the North Tower.
It depends on which direction and how far you are from the revolving doors: South to Liberty St - Very low chance of survival as one is totally exposed to debris falling down. North to the mall - High chance of survival if one runs fast enough the reach the escalator to Church st. West to the Marriott - High chance of survival. East to the mall - Low chance of survival if one runs towards WTC4, high chance if one turns left to the NE end of the mall below WTC5.
I dont think the top floors surrvived long as in the videos you can see the top outer shell of the building fly out and im assuming the inner floor just fell first before it pushing it out? Hard to tell with all the smoke but on the south you can see when the building broke apart as the edge of the building pops out the smoke. Idk if that means the floors are gone or just the shell came off because the smoke but to me it seems mid fall for whatever reason the buildings upper floors started to break apart.
there was two elevators working in the north tower. one went from the 44th floor sky lobby too the 78th floor sky lobby. 3 people used it but only 1 of them made it out. the other elevator went from I believe floor 78 too the lobby that was used by 4 people. there is a documentary done by the discovery channel called inside the twin towers. and they show you them escaping. I'd recommend watching it if you haven't because its one of the best documentaries about 9/11 I've seen. it's up on youtube because someone has uploaded it so you don't have to go looking for it.
Dude you should work for a federal agency, some are not political like FBI, they are efficient and have no agenda. NTSB anf others too. some of our agencies are supremely competent .
Have you seen the video of the first responder who was right outside the South Tower lobby working on someone and heard the collapse and ran into the Marriott and survived? I wish I could find that video. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please link it. Thank you.
I don’t think you can link vids. It’s better to say what the title of the video is and which channel it uploaded
@@dje3.16you can send links in youtube comments
Tim Brown
ua-cam.com/video/KUQSJiqfmUY/v-deo.html
This is an interview where he talks about it, about 37 mins in is where he talks about the collapse and running into the Marriott, grabbing a vertical column and simply holding on for his life
9/11 Stories: Former FDNY Tim Brown, its about a 55min interview, and he talks about the collapse of the south tower at about 37mins
They actually found one peice of the antenna that they put in the 9/11 museum. Also, there was a guy who got to the lobby when the north tower fell, he unfortunately didn't make it but it's remarkable thinking he did almost make it
Moria Smith survived the South Tower collapse from inside the South Tower lobby. The people that saw her while escaping said she was leading people from the stairwell to the direction they needed to go from there. After the south tower collapse she radioed in and gave her position, there is a tape recording of that conversation on youtube. She most likely ran for the stairwell for cover. She likely survived in the stairwell for the same reason that those in stairwell B in the North Tower survived. After about two minutes she went silent though, and likely died. But she survived the initial collapse. It’s possible some other people survived in the south tower lower stairwell too, but the north tower would’ve fell directly onto them and killed them.
i think she lived until wtc 1 fell
could you please provide the link to Moria's tape recording?
The people that survived in the North Tower in Stairway B did so because that area had been reinforced during the bombing a few years earlier , or at least it helped .
@@johndurrer7869 killed them but also made their bodies disappear? 90% were never recovered from ground zero
@@TheSavagederek Pretty sure that’s a different story from the small part of the Marriott that survived
2:02 the people in that lobby were either firefighters, police, emergency services doing what they were trained to do and very bravely at that. The other people were the workers coming down to get out of the building and they had no choice in the matter. If you look at the firefighter's faces as they are coming in the building and going up the stairs you can see that they knew what they were walking in to and still marched up the stairs. RESPECT TO THE FULLEST! Also want to add that most of the rescue people would never in a million years be there if it was not their sworn duty and that had to be hard to think that today is the day. Man I am still saddened by that day. ALways will be.
Man it must have been a terrifying experience, being in those buildings. When the towers fell! 😢
Terrifying isnt even the word, no word can describe what that was like, ohhh man!.
I guessing the people inside had no idea.. one second they were coming down the stairs and next the floors above just smashed them into the concrete below. They never felt anything.
They used an elevator to get to the impact zone on the South tower. They actually started to put a few fires out before it collapsed. Also a group of firefighters got stuck in that same elevator. We know all of this from their radio traffic
Short answer no you couldn’t it took 10 secs to collapse, and unless you are speedy Gonzales there’s no way to run that fast
It would take 1.6 seconds to perceive and react to the collapse. 1.6 seconds is called the perception reaction time, the time it takes your brain to perceive and react. But first you'd have to be at the door to run out and understand what was occurring (the building collapsing). You'd have less than 6-7 seconds to run, which would be impossible as you said.
@@POPJack1717 Maybe a 100m sprinter could do it, but he wouldn't have time to prepare for the "start", he would simply run without looking back.
@@POPJack1717 Well actually it took more like 16 seconds. The 10 second figure is the time it took for "the first exterior panels" to reach the ground. NIST has fostered this confusion by giving the 10-second number in both contexts at different times.
That said, would you even perceive the building was collapsing at first? But still doubtful anyone would get out, and then you'd have to run fast or potentially get killed by all the debris falling outside near the entrance.
I am completely fascinated by this topic. My fiancé was a New Yorker and our first date was at Windows in March 2000.
Maybe a 100m sprinter could do it, but he wouldn't have time to prepare for the "start", he would simply run without looking back.
Total safety in the underground mall? The only people that survived in that region close to where the towers were when they fell were the two port authority officers that the Nicolas Cage movie was about. They were located directly below where the fountain was in the plaza
@@johndurrer7869 where did 90% of the bodies go on 9/11?
It was also 9 in the morning so there was barely any ppl in the Mall
probably not, because you'd still be in the footprint of the building.
You should do a video about the only murder in New York on 9/11. The murder of Henryk Siwiak is still unsolved to this day.
Man, good thing criminals didn't know.about it coming.. They could.have robbed a lot of banks and stores
4,000 people were murdered on 9/11
Can you please provide a brief summary?
@@_Breakdown He was a Polish immigrant murdered on the night of 9/11 while commuting to a new job. He took a wrong exit which lead him to a dangerous part of town and he was shot and died on the scene. It's a cold case today as a suspect has never been found.
@@bee-yq3wbive heard it. Sad
I shouldn’t be watching this stuff on mushrooms 🤦♂️. Way too intense
I’m forcing myself to watch or just listen to it just now. I was on Broadway on my bicycle. I heard the first strike, heard various explosions, turned to get over to Houston St. where I was subletting. I saw the second strike, grabbed some stuff, put my cat in a gym bag and bungee corded him in the front basket, and headed north. I lost a half dozen friends, including a homeless lady named Donna who lived in the mall, plus at least 25 colleagues. I’ve placed that entire morning to midday in the farthest corner of the top shelf of my memory closet. I’m just now taking it out a little at a time now that I’m retired, my parents and all but one sibling have passed.
Watch nature videos or ambient music visuals next time bro😂
I know he has mentioned riding the antenna down before, but i wonder if there was any way to survive the collapse if you were above the impact zone. My gut says no, since nobody did. I remember thinking we would. I remember thinking there would be more miracle cases of survival. I was actually surprised they were so few. Guess it shows how unsurvivable it was. I've always just wondered if it was even possible, though. That flight attendant in yugoslavia, in the seventies, survived falling from 30,000 feet, so i thought just maybe there could be some set of circumstances that were crazy enough to happen for someone to survive. But I guess they didn't happen.
Those antennas could probably give you a bad dosage of radiation.
@@DigitalIslandboy no. The antennas don't give off the bad radiation.
YES THERE WAS 1 WOMAN 👩🦱🧍♀️WHO SURVIVED THE JUMP; there’s a video documentary of the DOCTOR 👨🏼⚕️ who found her. She was apparently mangled from the waist down (but didn’t realize it). She said to him “I’M NOT DEAD,” - - but - - his job was to place different colored “tags” on the people he found. (i.e. - red 🔴 means urgent, green 🟢 means not-urgent, yellow 🟡 means not-able-to-be saved); he deemed her condition “not able to be saved.” But the video shows how he was haunted by the memory. When he passed her in the rubble he thought she was dead - but he claims she looked at him and said “I’m not dead.” (Why he didn’t try to save her is beyond my understanding - - but you can find the documentary with his testimony. It’s really probably the creepiest thing I’ve ever heard - but that is the true account). And yes, I’m aware of that woman 👱🏼♀️🧍🏼♀️ who survived falling from the airplane ✈️ at 30,000 feet and surviving - - so I’d say your suspicion is very valid.
God Bless.🕊
@@DigitalIslandboy Only if connected to a power source, and there woild have been no power during th collapse.
@@POPJack1717 the videos on Empire State Building antenna maintenance say they wait until after all the radio and tv stations power down to enter the antenna area.
Have you ever considered being a news broadcaster? Or journalism?? Your speaking voice and style are phenomenal!!💯
He's building his career right now as we watch. Just look at his viewer addition in the last month.
@@theoriginalopMostly because of the 9/11 videos
@@ThePhenomm No, he is getting a lot more views on his political videos.
I would say his voice is mid at best
@@1andOnlyKB lol..don't hate 😂😅
No you wouldn't be dragging a hose that high you would be using stand pipes on the floors that they could connect to that weren't damaged below the impact areas.
A stand pipe is a water supply connection within buildings that engines would connect to that pumps water to the inside hose connections for firefighting operations.
I love all your vids. I have had so much question ever since 9/11 happened and your videos actually kinda answers it.
@depressed ginger can you discussed the possibility of fifth plane which is made documentary by tmz. I heard the plane was cancelled before take off because the action of FAA but the terrorist escape immediately the plane leaving their belongings with box cutter inside the plane and they believe it’s target is the White House while flight 93 would be the us capitol
The cutters were in another plane (maybe by mistake), so the story goes
@@StephenAinsworth1 yeah right my mistake I think the alleged terrorist also used the escape hatch
I wanna say if I remember correctly there were people who survived in the south tower lobby during the collapse who didn't realize initially the entire tower had come down.
That first shot was prior to 1980. Lost lots of friends in T-2, (FDNY). Many were (L-4) were opening up every elevator to search for victims. We were taught the best place to be and escape from a collapse is from the corners at an angle. Even if you escape the sidewalk, any spot within the shadow of a wall will be in the collapse zone of the debris field, (bricks, chunks of concrete or debris). NYPD knew the collapse was coming and anyone who could get away did. We had different radios.
In interviews for my book, FFs told me they heard the S Tower as it was collapsing and it "passed them by", crashing into the ground. The highest floor guys escaped from from my knowledge was 34. As to hoselines, we carry folded hose into Hi-rise and connect to the Bldg standpipe for water. (All had been severed in T-1.) Videos show people being killed by flying debris 2 blocks from the Towers. One Elevator was working in T-2 and was used to skylobby to remove victims and bring FFs part way up. The collapse of T-2 wrecked the lobby of T-1 including the stairways. Dozens of our guys died in those stairs because their escape was obstructed. See my detailed work, MY TURN ON THE FIRELINES 1980-2003 for more info
Interesting fact is there was a story on survivors on the 91st of the north tower, basically these people were the cut off point from the 92nd floor and above. Would be great if you did a video on this.
The antenna is in the museum
Part of it is. Not the whole antenna.
You’ve never seen the the Naudet bros. Documentary? Jules was in the lobby of WTC1 when WTC2 collapsed with several firefighters
The video is more if you'd be able to survive running out of either tower into the plaza and avoid being hit by the tower collapsing not if you hunkered down inside
Interview of a first responder who was directly outside the South Tower lobby and heard the collapse happening from above and ran into the Marriott and survived: ua-cam.com/video/KUQSJiqfmUY/v-deo.html
Like most here, I've seen a lot of content and stories regarding 9/11 but this interview honestly caught me off guard. Some of the things he recalls in it I've never seen repeated anywhere else. I'd recommend everyone watch it from start to finish.
Can you do a video on the man with the red bandana. Once he found the open stairwell in the south tower, he went up and down to rescue, and its a wild story the way it happened.
You should do a vid on Cantor Fitzgerald. My Uncle Frank was on those floor’s unfortunately and they lost most of the staff. Appreciate you doing these videos
Skyscrapers should be build as high as the tallest rescue ladders go. It must be terrible for rescuers to realize that they could not save people above the crash. It’s hard for me to listen to the 911 calls from those floors and be told “they are coming for you” 😞
The reports were the floors were crumbling way before the collapse. So when the collapse started I can imagine the internal floors etc inverted. Kinda like having a chair pulled from under you.
Well there were some survivors of the south tower collapse mainly the PAPD officers with five officers in the direct line of sight of the lobby seeing the collapse two officers ended up dying in the collapse of tower 2 and the third officer died in the north tower collapse. The last Two officers survived the collapse and were rescued hours after the collapse. Their story got turned into an Oliver stone film in 2006.
Could you do a video showing underground exits for escape from WTC 1 and 2? A lot of people were led to safety by avoiding the plaza and taking the concourse to street level, or using the mall level to exit from under the Marriott or smaller WTC buildings. If you've made this video already, could you give the title?
This channel is TT strong! 💪
Even if you managed to get far enough away from the falling debris from the building, you probably wouldn't have been able to outrun the massive cloud of toxic fumes and smoke that formed immediately after the building collapsed.
I know this sounds silly but what if there were zip lines that could hook to other buildings to evacuate peoole or some type if slides that pop out from the windows? I was thinking about the parachute theory ect. & started wondering about zip lines.
Now, that's a pretty good theory, but would probably have to be in place beforehand
But they couldn't get to the roof I just remembered
@@GR-bn3xj yeah but maybe some from certain floor windows? I don't know though. I've just been thinking of many ways.
They'd have to be pre-installed and ready to go, meaning the towers would be surrounded with hanging steel cables for emergency escape. I imagine the liability and red tape around something like that would be damn near insurmountable. I worked for a spring and summer season as a zipline tour guide and a lot can go wrong. Even on a mild slope, people can build up tremendous speed and energy on a zipline. From those heights, you'd need an extraordinary braking system, and a crew to man it, to even consider taking an adult (especially Americans) down a zipline alive. I don't see it ever happening.
@@jjoseph8276 yeah, you're right.
If i remember right there was a survivor who was blown out of the lobby by a gust of wind.
Firefighter Orio Palmer repaired an elevator in the south tower and took it to the 40th floor other firefighters in the south tower attempted to use elevators but were trapped and attempted to break out through the wall just before collapse.
The firefighters in the North Tower lobby got about 50 feet to the escalators as the South Tower fell. The lobby filled with smoke. There is video of it. They would have died if it was the North Tower falling on them. So it's highly unlikely.
Yes, that was the naudet brothers doc
you could but watch for falling bodies and debris would have been a issue is why everyone went out wtc 5
Have a question you think they wouldve put the fire out if the fire men sprayed foam on the fores in helicopters since foam works on jet fuel rather then water?
5:45 So the top did actually pancake on itself, its can be seen the best during the collapse of the North Tower, and the top was completely destroyed before hitting the ground
You have to remember, it did not perfectly collapse in a symmetrical manner. Meaning, as the structure gives way, the floors would instantly collapse inwards and basically turns into a black hole sucking everything inwards. The exterior walls would bend and all glass shattering, floor’s caving in. The antenna probably began to break apart within the first 2-3 seconds. It’s not a perfect pancaking, it’s pulling inwards and everything is destroyed before reaching the bottom. It’s horrifying to think that anyone still alive on the upper floors would have been sucked into the cratering dark black holes of the floor’s caving in while everything around them sounds like it’s exploding as the building collapses.
I saw one angle from the South where the antennae disappears for a second, and then you can see it again as it topples to the south. There's not a lot of footage of the North Tower collapse from the south - most of it is from the northern side.
I have a very stupid question but when flight 11 hit the north tower,did anyone evacuating both skyscrapers before the second hit get the chance to go to the basement garage, retrieve their personal car and just drive out?? i honestly think some people did this💀
I don't recall what the video was called. There was 9/11 video of family member trying to fine her son body. During the clean up of wtc. In interview she said she talked to her son before the towers collapsed and he was in the lobby helping people. They did fine his body it was outside of the building . The mother had an autopsy done and showed that the body was disfigured badly and had large amounts of Shard glass through it. I am guessing anyone in the lobby during the during the collapse would have been blown out of there due to the tremendous air pressure shooting down the building while it was collapsing
Do you think it would have been possible for them to put out the fires using an airborne method like for Forest fires?
Possibly if right in the doorway, ran like hell, and somehow dodged the debris-OR-got below into the mall near a set of stairs? It seems highly unlikely, but miracles do occur.
I feel like the firefighters were telling everyone to stay put so they could get up the stairwells if nothing else they were at least clogging up the stairwells and using an elevator the people could have otherwise been using to evacuate. They should have just evacuated every person they could right away instead of trying to be heroes and put out a fire that has obviously progressed too far to be put out. I know for certain from a documentary i saw, the firefighters were not allowing people to leave through the front entrance due to jumpers, they had to go way around, they could have saved way more people than they did had that been their primary goal instead of trying to save the building. People were literally being told to stay.
That sounds similar but opposite to the uvalde police, preventing parents from going in and saving their children...
What happened to the other terrorist attacks that happened after 9/11
I would like it if you displayed a picture of what you are talking about when you're referencing a photo. for example, at 3:18 you could put up the image. I think people who've never seen it would appreciate it. I noticed you've missed opportunities to do that in other videos. Just an idea for future uploads.
There is video and images where you can see the antenna falling away from the tower, to the south
Only chance is to hide under something strong and hope it does not collapse on top of you
I highly doubt that survival in the lobby would be possible as the more the floors pancaked, the heavier and quicker the weight coming down would be. Just my opinion, what do y’all think?
Interesting video thanks
Could you make a video on the major communication failures of the American defense services on September 11, 2001?
While they knew that the first plane had been hijacked well before it crashed into the North Tower, I find it absurd that there was no communication to the security of the World Trade Center that it was a terrorist attack..
So they could have immediately evacuated the south tower. Instead, they sent a message to people to stay in the South Tower!..
How many lives could have been saved that day with a simple attack alert message in the south tower...
I find this subject shocking and a video about it would be great :)
Just to put how short 10 secs is, that's the max length of a snap chat video frame.
The total collapse time was more like 16 seconds. Not that that would make much difference.
What about those firefighters from the movie World Trade Center?
why were certain floors of the exterior a darker color than the rest?
That 2 darker floor level are the mechanical floor
That were the service floors!
The shaded ones 1/4th & about 1/2 of the way. Wondered what those are too. Such beautiful buildings.
@@texaschainsawmass aka. Sky lobbies
The dark stripes are mechanical rooms.
Heard any updates on 2 World trade center construction?
There was one working elevator in the North Tower
What does collpase mean?
Well we live in the age of who gives the slightest sh-t about quality anymore.
Pretty sure you are incorrect about the restaurant. Everything broke up and vaporized on the way down including the floors above the impact zone of the North building 🙄‼️
Vaporized? Really?
@@alisonschmitt9533
As a figure of speech, maybe.
@@alisonschmitt9533 Maybe vapourized was a bit strong😂‼️But the floors above the impact zone did not arrive at the bottom in one piece and fall apart there that’s for sure.
Trying to escape while it's collapsing you'd go def
Deafinitely😂😂‼️
Number 5 plane ?
If you are inside the north tower lobby and south tower collapse you have 10 seconds to run to the first floor firefighters had to run to the first floor as fast as they can they only had 10 seconds to escape the lobby area
16 seconds was total collapse time.
"i dont know if it was intact at ground level". Bro it got instantly destroyed wtf u talking about.
I think I read the buildings collapsed in less than 10 seconds.
the collapse took 10 secs for the south tower.. not much time to run I guess..
How did the antenna turn to dust?
Who said it did?
It didn't.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 it did , just like 90% of the bodies ( you know, the ones missing from ground zero, three thousand that were never recovered)
@@Matt-pt6rl Then explain why a large portion of the antennae is in the museum.
Rip Peter and Tommy langone one of each lost in each building both firefighters
No the top of the building didn't fully stat in tact it broke apart halfway down to the ground
Hard to tell thrugh all the dust how much it was falling apart though.
Windows on the world was on fire for 102 minutes. I'm sure it was destroyed along with hundreds of people before the collapse. Also hundreds of people had to jump from that floor
i wonder when the terrorists on flight175 saw the north tower burning , how they felt on their way to their target....enriched? motivated?
I never thought about that before. I wonder too. I guess it’s what would satin feel like?
They acted like they didn’t know evacuation was mandatory until the first building fell? Another strange thing about this incident. I’ve even heard people were told they couldn’t leave. Sounds like a way to achieve max casualty, just saying. Anyways, great video just sharing my two cents y’all keep your cool now. ✌️
4:07 Fire Farter
😂😂😂
You would’ve struggled to even get in the mall cause that got destroyed upon the south tower collapse the movie World Trade Center depicted what happened after the collapse of the south tower in the mall
Running into the stairwell was the only chance. Moria Smith survived the South Tower collapse for about 5 minutes from doing that. She bled out but she almost made it
I would have to say no way possible!!! Have you actually watched all of the coverage of that day!!! Obviously not!!👎👎🤬🤬
10 seconds isn’t much at all honestly
But they had about 16 seconds. Probably not much difference though.
@@cchris874 16 seconds until the lobby was destroyed, but 10 until the first pieces hit the ground, which would have crushed people making a run for it.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508
Agreed . But that means the lobby itself may still have been sustainable for 6 extra seconds, just saying, since everyone keeps saying 10 seconds. NIST is to blame for being so sloppy in their assessment.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 would crushing a body make it disappear? 90% of the bodies have never been recovered , not possible in a building collapse according to world history.
@@Matt-pt6rl Obviously. Tonnes of steel falling over a thousand feet is going to cause a body to disintegrate. Don't give me this "not possible" nonsense - world history is incapable of proving anything. There is not another single event in history that is relevant.
The dropped burning eraser of a pencil won’t crush a wood pencil beneath it. Try it at home. The impact zone is 800 feet above the ground level. The elevators were staggered and not straight down to ground level. How did explosive energy travel between disconnected shafts? Why did the 47 unaffected lower core columns collapse? They were bolted and welded together thousands of times. What force tore them apart. A backyard swimming pool of kerosene?
1 view in 1 minute, bro really fell off
(joke)
It takes analytics a while to update. When I put videos out, my side says 100 after a minute or so & then jumps very high to like 700-900 views. UA-cam analytics are sometimes delayed. Plus it's a Sunday morning. Everyone is sleeping.
Why so negative people are strang 😅😅
@@BlueDan-h8dI’ve been seeing a lot of these people making these comments on different videos, it’s ridiculous even if it’s a joke.
For your next episode consider if anybody trapped above the impact zone farted. They must have, right?
Why is this guy SO obsessed with the twin towers like fr its kinda weird
I don't think he doing this overkill , I think he is like a reporter, or a history channel narrator. He also talks about Right vs Left. Which is totally different then 9/11.
@@noctusxv2341Not only that but he’s talked about mall and building projects as well.
It probably seems weird at Langley, yes.
Yes I escaped the lobby of the twin towers during the collapse. By not being there.
Even if you traveled back in time and were placed in the lobby and knew the exact second to start running as the building begins to collapse, not enough time to get far enough away to survive (especially the South tower). The buildings just collapsed too quickly to physically get far enough away.
Think about it- you’re in the lobby and you run at the exact moment collapse starts. You have 10s (South tower) or 13s (North tower) to run. How far can a human run in 10s? Assuming a completely straight path with no debris to run over/around or possibly even trip over? Usain Bolt’s Top speed was 10m/s. That’s a distance of 100m in the 10s. Is that even far enough away to get to safety? Also, that’s Usain in a straight line with good shoes and good conditions. The towers on 9/11 are far from good conditions. My answer on this is a firm NO. If you’re in the buildings during collapse, you’re only hope for survival is being in a lucky “caccoon” like the people in stairway B of the North Tower.
It depends on which direction and how far you are from the revolving doors:
South to Liberty St - Very low chance of survival as one is totally exposed to debris falling down.
North to the mall - High chance of survival if one runs fast enough the reach the escalator to Church st.
West to the Marriott - High chance of survival.
East to the mall - Low chance of survival if one runs towards WTC4, high chance if one turns left to the NE end of the mall below WTC5.
I dont think the top floors surrvived long as in the videos you can see the top outer shell of the building fly out and im assuming the inner floor just fell first before it pushing it out? Hard to tell with all the smoke but on the south you can see when the building broke apart as the edge of the building pops out the smoke. Idk if that means the floors are gone or just the shell came off because the smoke but to me it seems mid fall for whatever reason the buildings upper floors started to break apart.
there was two elevators working in the north tower. one went from the 44th floor sky lobby too the 78th floor sky lobby. 3 people used it but only 1 of them made it out. the other elevator went from I believe floor 78 too the lobby that was used by 4 people. there is a documentary done by the discovery channel called inside the twin towers. and they show you them escaping. I'd recommend watching it if you haven't because its one of the best documentaries about 9/11 I've seen. it's up on youtube because someone has uploaded it so you don't have to go looking for it.
That's the best documentary I've ever seen about the twin towers, very detailed.. It came out in 2006...
Dude you should work for a federal agency, some are not political like FBI, they are efficient and have no agenda. NTSB anf others too. some of our agencies are supremely competent .
just why?