The Song Continues 2018: Marilyn Horne Master Class: R. Strauss' "Morgen," Op. 27, No. 4
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2018
- Acclaimed mezzo-soprano Marilyn Horne coaches soprano Lynnesha Crump and pianist Richard Jeric on Richard Strauss' “Morgen,” Op. 27, No. 4.
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Founded by iconic mezzo-soprano Marilyn Horne, The Song Continues nurtures gifted young singers. In January 2018, soprano Renée Fleming and collaborative pianist Graham Johnson joined Ms. Horne for an intensive weeklong series of coaching sessions and master classes for rising vocal talents. To learn more about Workshops and Master Classes at Carnegie Hall, visit carnegiehall.org/Education/Workshops-and-Master-Classes.
Such precious lessons!!
I could sense the frustration. I totally agree with Ms Horne’s comments. Dame Kiri makes the same comments about this song in masterclass. It has to be very stretched and not rushed. If you can’t sing it that way (as the composer intended and as the music demands), then choose a different song.
I see so much potential. Sure there is work to be done, but her voice is gorgeous, nicely focused, healthy sound. Agree that Horne isn't a teacher.
the cellphones ringing are so vexing!!! how can people be so uneducated and disrespectful? even more in a piece like this which screams for an atmosphere of total stillness
Because Horne is a bad teacher? I certainly think so.
AT 22:01 Ms. Horne making faces at the audience in her frustration is rude.
She was clearly frustrated and her face showed it but I don't think she was purposely making faces or even looking directly at the audience. It seemed more like she was cringing while talking to herself in her frustration.
The singer seemed intimidated right after the first comment was made. You can tell the two are from such different generations and I do have genuine pity for both.
I don't get it...what do you mean byt that generation and pity thing? I agree on that the singer was a bit intimidated by that but I cannot see why. It wasn't hostile or anything, just direct. I'm confused why the singer got so tense and awkward. And I'm probably younger than the she is.
Marilyn Horne had an extraordinary singing career, but with all due respect, she is not a teacher. She kept telling this young woman everything she was doing wrong, but didn't offer her any real, practical solutions as to how to fix the issues. I found this masterclass session to be demoralizing.
They never really push technique in MClasses because the singers have mental breakdowns and their teachers/schools get embarra$$ed. All they can do is critique and offer breathing techniques and support. This singer is woofy floods everything into the mouth. Her throat connection is nil therefore she can’t connect to the thread of the notes it’s all covered and nasal. There are 4 resonators and she is using only 2. And they are warm but lack the control. Marylin knows what she is doing she is limited by politics it was the same in the 90’s when I saw her on a class at Yale.
I don't see any demoralisizing here...I do see it's very awkward though, between the singer and Horne. But everything she says is completely true and she gives great advice but the student doesn't seem to get it. Maybe it's just a chemistry issue... Horne has great knowledge and is direct - not cruel or demoralizing but very direct which the girl obviously cannot handle in the spot. She's intimidated and insecure and (maybe that's why) cannot do what Horne is asking. It's very hard but the key is to stay calm but at the same time be humble.
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I completely agree. I think by the end of the class she was just miffed at being asked to sing this piece as it is written. The girl did not listen or understand what needed to be sung. Oh gosh... I hope that the girl studies the language and finds her most gentle heart in this piece because it is so, so beautiful.
Ignorance and stupidity.
The tempo chosen by Ms. Horne is too slow for this singer I believe, which made it overly effortful for her
verborgenheitte I completely agree, I sing this and it was painful to hear her tell her to slow down, plus I felt like she couldn’t enjoy herself sing because she was stressing and the teacher is rude to me as well.
Sorry to contradict you both. Singing Strauss' Lieder (like all Late Romantic German Lieder) you need breath, breath, and once more breath. I can't imagine this singer hasn't enough breath...
Which shows she's not ready for this piece yet. It should be sung as Ms Horne indicates. Masterclasses many times serve to determine where you stand technically, it's a challenge.
I guess you don't know Strauss......
I feel like Ms. Horne demoralized the singer. She just couldn't teach the student any real solutions. sad
Yes, a teacher should be more understanding with the student, but it is not necessary. Horne has huge knowledge and she is not a piece of sugar cube, her words are not dripping with honey, she is teaching and what that girl is doing is not what she is asking. It’s quite annoying if a student try to correct the teacher. Of course she has her own thoughts but her job is to take every advice from the teacher and then working on it in her own and find out her own way to make it possible.
Music is a wonderful, hearth warming thing, but for a musician the learning process is terribly hard and full with challenge, resignation, pain.
Learning from Horne needs humbleness. If you think she is not a good teacher, then listen Joyce DiDonato recordings. She was working with Horne quite a few times, you can hear every single instruction in her singing from Horne. Did you ever saw the movie “Whiplash”? Go and see it. There is no exaggeration in that movie, trust me.
She has to find another colour for this lied, more intimate and calm
Horne was a GLORIOUS singer in her day, but proves here to be a most ineffective teacher. 😞
there is plenty of other masterclass videos with her where she and the students cooperate perfectly. she surely is not as fluffy and hippie as didonato. horne is strict.
and the legendary schwarzkopf was MUCH harsher than this.
The singer doesn’t execute one single thing Marilyn Horne tells her.
How to sing nasal. And constricted. And masky. Bravo!
😂😂😂
@James Cunico ‘As bright as you can get it’. That’s technique, not interpretation. This is NOT good teaching. Just because someone’s famous doesn’t mean they have any right to be famous.
@James Cunico No, she's not a master at her craft. Her technique is not good at all. I'm not going to ever agree with you. Horne was an incredibly overrated singer. ua-cam.com/video/vBhCLRATwqw/v-deo.html
@James Cunico What? I clearly showed you a video comparing Horne’s mask singing with Verrett and Farrell’s pharyngeal, released, chiaroscuro singing and you say I’m uninformed. The fact that you cannot differentiate teachers shows that you are the one who is immature here. I don’t know the answers to great singing, but voice teachers like Genereal Radames do. Marilyn Horne is overrated (she isn’t even a mezzo, she’s a lyric soprano). Nope. Horne was nasal and sang in the mask. That is not opinion, that is fact.
@@xxsaruman82xx87 You could surely lead a masterclass about writing stupid and unnecessary comments!
from what i heard of her voice in this video i simply have to say that it is not remotely lyrical enough for this repertory.
i would much rather imagine her in heavier, more dramatic repertory.
She has very power instrument and perhap not suitable for Strauss' songs
Ms. Horne was an adequate singer but her teaching leaves much to be desired. I wonder if she remembers how fragile her ego was as a young singer? I'm not really a Horne fan so I admit it's difficult to be objective. I find her adveserial as a teacher and I'm sure privately she commands big bucks. Morgen is about subtlety and something "supernatural" unfortunately this beautiful young woman lacks the requisite intellect and emotional depth. Horne did ask her to sing more softly and it was as if she didn't even hear the request. Why didn't she sing Strauss or Wolf?
Wow...I felt it more a matter of fit than anything else (between piece/composer's intent and singer's instrument and emotional impulses that drive her to have a preference for her own interpretation rather than what was written). Not sure how intellect got into this...interesting choice of words (highlighting the physical while diminishing her intelligence), when discussing a singer's difficulty tempering her propensity for forcefulness rather than subtlety. Shoot her for not being able to execute the instructor's commands instantaneously in front of a worldwide audience amid blistering criticism, and the fragility of young singers' egos, which had accurately identified only a moment earlier. She struggles publicly, albeit gracefully, in a session lasting minutes and we deride her intellect?? Hmmm...wondering in what setting, and which subjects, might be on the receiving end of such an extreme judgment. Somehow and sadly, I was not surprised to hear such a description of the performance of this diva in training, especially given her extraction (yes, ethnic). The choice of language...the reference to intellect, the basis for a host of atrocities committed against those of her ilk and in all likelihood, her ancestors...renders that remark, even in this forum and on this matter, a vulgarity.
As to her emotional depth, yes, at least that's a matter that might be debated on an adequate level of civility, though respectfully, I disagree. What you see as her lacking in emotional depth I see as her having in excess...a volcanic reserve of emotional depth, that, as with any creative endeavor, particularly the Performing Arts, requires maturity...time. This is often the case for the most passionate artists among us. Clearly, this instruction is somewhat foreign to her and might require more than minutes to correct, a feat that you have demanded in a most intemperate manner, including of the instructor, who, for the record, I happen to adore...and admire, skewering though her manner might be. That's for discussion another time.
"This beautiful young woman lacks the requisite intellect and emotional depth" I beg your pardon? Do you really belive you could give out comments such as this? I think, you are talking about yourself.
Adequate? The greatest Rossini singer of the century. What an idiotic comment.
Too loud, too hard, too much vibrato, this ist not Strauss -Morgen-. Practise the piano and the legato.....humming would be a good practise for her.
Simply speaking it as well would be beneficial. More consonants please. Have her listen to Janet Baker, Christa Ludwig oh alright maybe Fleming.