I am crying right now 🥺 I have been to Neurologist, physically therapy, brain scans, etc. I suggested that it might be Thoracic outlet syndrome and they told me no. The constant tingling, numbness, burning and sometimes weakness was so bad that I started getting depressed 😔 I just followed your routine and I feel 100th percent better. I am a hair stylist and photographer, so it's a double whammy. Thank you, thank you, thank you, you are the best 😭😭😭❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Me too!! I have an entire list of doctors and things I’ve tried. I brought up TOS TO MY NUERO, an ortho, anyone and they all said no. And made me feel super dumb!
@@christinabrownell I'm so sorry to hear that! I have dealt with neurogenic TOS for 8 years (played violin all my life) and FINALLY scheduled surgery for late this December. Keep trying and you will get recognized for your persistence!
Thank you so much Adam, i am eternally grateful to you brother. 21 years of constant pain and crackling in my neck every time i turn right associated with continuous nasty headaches on a daily basis, lethargy, brain fog, forgetfulness and a prominent 24/7 vein on my right temporal area. I might have an Atlas problem but your technique really brought a unmatched relief of the pain. I began rubbing heated castor oil ( throw some salt and some olive oil) To break up the deep adhesions and fascia restrictions , ⚠️ This is very vital for you guys. Thank you so much Adam, may Allah bless you ❤🤲🏻.
8:10 Pro tip for the pec minor - if you don't have a yoga block, you can use a door frame with the trigger point ball, on each side. Essentially allowing you to lean past the frame into an open doorway.
Over a 100k spent at the doctors....and they NEVER even came up with what is wrong with me. I watcha video and Im dang near cured.. Thank you. I hate the medical field!!!
I’m a therapist with 12 yrs exp everything he is saying is accurate. One thing I like to do that the patient hates is isolating the muscle with my fingers and gliding them down the muscles as the patient stretches in the opposite direction. It’s called active release technique and it works every time. Patient hates you for a few minutes but then loves you forever 24 hrs later. I always make them ice afterwards. They always request it if it flares up again.
How come people feel called to tell others their job and confirm what is accurate or not? Getting to know and knowing your body is a matter of living as/with/in it. People are able to figure out themselves what feels good. You do not need any diploma nor school to know all that.
@@warfreddy6968everyone gets old with their birth. That doesn't mean everyone experience physical pain or is doomed to be a certain way. It's a matter of self-care how you live your life.
I’m a musician, composer, and music teacher. I’ve been suffering for the last four years from what I now believe to be TOS, which has severely affected my ability to do what I love. The exercises in this video are an incredible help. Thank you!
Im terrible with anything to do with music haha but I’m very happy to hear you are finding some relief, keep it up and let me know sometime in the future how its going!
Hi there, I’m a conductor as well and barely can use my left arm due to TOS. Do you have recommendations for sleeping positions, stretches exercises or massage?
I'm a musician, composer and teacher too but had to give up performing and most things due to TOS so I feel your pain! I was a professional musician but TOS has ruined my career...this guy really knows his stuff. If only I'd known about him years ago but better late than never. Keep positive and don't ever give up ❤
How common is this? Why has none of the physiotherapists and doctors I have been to never ever said anything about it to me? This is the pain I have been living with for at least 10 years and without realising it, I had been doing some of the massaging techniques you describes myself. It was the only stuff that helped relieve some of the discomfort and pain. I have ever had a full body scan done, including bone scan, because the doctors could not figure out what was causing my pain. So upset now about the lost time and resources :/
I feel you on that. I had similar issues with hip and back pain and just bounced around from Dr to Dr. My theory is that massage isn't looked at (yet) as an alternative to PT. Until that happens, I hope these videos are able to help you out in the meantime.
I'm a new TOS experiencer. I intuitively fashioned a routine that helped, cobbling together a bit here and there. Your comprehensive program is my go-to and I'm going to be doing this regularly. I've never felt pain like TOS, And I don't plan to let it happen ever again! Thanks so much!!
I have watched TONS of videos, seen chiropractors, had to leave my last job because I couldn’t lift boxes in my receiving department over the last year . I did a couple of your neck massages and this is the first time I’ve felt relief, and I finally feel like I have some hope. Thank you so much 😭
Don't give up, keep doing exercises stretches and use a heating pad to promote good blood flow. In addition to all this I've been hanging upside down using an inversion table. I've improved a lot but overuse and fatigue of the muscles brings back my symptoms especially when I sit hunched over at my desk, couple more weeks and I think it'll be gone for good
The story is longgg but let's just say that nothing and nobody helped until I randomly came across your video. You are a life saver! Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤
By far BEST TOS video in existence. Thank you Thank you Thank you! I can’t wait to start implementing this daily & improve! I was completely unaware of the necessity of self-massage prior to stretching….no wonder my TOS has been a problem for 9 years. I’m filled with hope now 😀 thank you again!
I'm a member of a TMJD Facebook group that emphasizes the importance of addressing trigger points. The group's guide suggests using our hands to massage these muscles initially. As the trigger points become less intense, one can gradually use a back knob tool to work on the upper back. This approach has been instrumental in alleviating my jaw problems.
Holy pain, I'm so tender I'm crying in the pec release....omg ...my nerve pain that started so I found u...the tightness w massage brought me to tears and took my breathe away....with feeling relief...I'm blown away Thank God I found u...I didn't know these tight muscles and trigger points existed Do we do this every day or 3 x a day also
lol. It’s that feel good pain! If youre sore tomorrow then skip a day if not then go easier then today so you dont over do it. I would take a break every other day at least if you’re not getting sore from it. I’m glad it’s helping!
Well explained love it. I feel like i have hope now! Just a quick question. Not sure i have TOS but all the symptoms that you have mentioned i have! I have knots on my scalene muscles and clicking neck and shoulders. Left side more painful than right. Clicking occurs mostly when lifting arms up/down or any movement involving shoulders. Also neck clicking occurs frequently. Really have a bad urge to crack neck most of the time. Can these symptoms occur with TOS? Any input/guidance appreciated…many thanks 👍🏽
I want to take the time out to say thank you. I have been suffering from chronic pain since 2017. it started with a repetitive motion injury where i used my right arm to torque a part for 8 hours a day and something just popped and it shot up my head and i instantly started feeling numb on one side i went to the hospital. cut to this past week and i was never able to combat that pain. it was bad and i asked the lord to get me out of this and somehow after all these years i came accross your video. God is good and thank you for putting your content online for free
spent thousands on MRIs and x-rays, thinking it was spine issue or anything. Mostly til that it waa due to cervical issue, which I still find myself scratching my heas how. Anyways really helped. I finally understood why my chirO stresses so much on posture balance.
I have been suffering with TOS for almost 3 years now I had no idea I even had it until I went in for wrist pain. I have gone through occupational therapy which helps but doesn’t last. I’m desperate and tired of being in so much pain. I was told my pregnancy most likely caused it. I feel like my ribs are being stabbed constantly. Hurts to sleep on my back and sides it’s miserable. Hopefully these exercises will help because doctors don’t want to spend the time to actually treat me. Instead I get told “ there’s nothing clinically wrong”.
Wow! Great relief. Woke up with worsened Cervical spondylosis symptoms and needed some stretches to help relief symptoms and found this. Felt so much relaxed afterwards and sleepy too - bonus. Thank you so much. You've made my life better today.
First, holy sh#t! When I tell you I feel 100% better after the massages, I am speaking nothing but the truth! After months of watching UA-cam vids, going to a chiropractor and having acupuncture, this video alone has created such a sense of relief, instantly! This is the first video that popped up in my recommendations that specifically mentioned Thoratic Outlet Syndrome. I wasn’t sure if I should watch but I am glad I did! I work from home on a computer everyday and my neck issue has been giving me the blues since last year. Neither of my chiropractors have mentioned these massages first before stretching. I kinda feel that’s a no-brainer and probably my bad for not asking, but I just can’t get over the relief I’m feeling! Like someone else mentioned in the comments, I was beginning to get very depressed. I was experiencing brain fog, occasional double vision, tingling in my fingers and arms, and almost questioning if I was able to adequately take on my workload to any degree of success. I can go on but wow! This is such a relief! My only question is how often should the massages and stretched be done a day? It felt so good I wouldn’t mind doing it multiple times a day! Thank you again!
I’m soo happy to hear you’re finally getting relief! You can do the massages daily if you’re taking it easy. Be warned it might feel sore after, the same kind of feeling as working out hard. Keep it up! You’re in control of your health🦾
Yes, you're right on point with all those muscles that trigger so much pain. But my problem isn't bad posture, though I could always work on that. My problem was a seat belt impact from a car accident years ago, and there's so many more muscles that also hurt. What I'm trying to figure out is, if my "tennis elbow" pain (also from repetitive grocery job and ceramic art) will dissipate by stretching these muscle groups and doing strengthening exercises?? I'm gotta admit the pain doesn't inspire me to exercise right now, but I do want to stay strong to do ceramics for many years. Any information is welcome. Thank you for putting out these videos.
Awesome video! I self diagnosed myself w/ TOS when i started having numbness on my left arm. I did all the special test to clear it! Had awesome release from my boss today and came across your video today. Totally agree w/ myofascial release first before lengthening and strengthening exercises. :)
Awesome brother! I have been instinctively working these areas and this was confirmation im on the right track. (Age 55, able to do lots of physical stuff and i live for outdoors) I think people jump to surgery way too fast, potentially complicating things, instead of reversing the causes. A lot is within our ability to improve, for free, and at home. Of course, i couldn't remove my own appendix so grateful there were very fine surgeons for that : ) Thanks for the great info! Be well !
Amazing! I have had this problem for over 30 years and have been to many different Doctors, Physio and Chiropractors with little to no relief. After watching your video and following your recommendations; I am amazed at the results, thank you for bringing back my pain free mobility!
The way you show the muscle diagrams over the part of the body is really helpful in visualising how to pinpoint it. You are helping so many people with a lot of pain and restriction in their daily lives. Would using vibrating equipment e.g. gardening power tools daily have any correlation with TOS?
Thank you for the comment, I truly appreciate it! I believe it would be more your body and arm position during work that contributes to it rather than the specific work itself. Sadly its not avoidable unless you learn how to garden behind you back haha.
Thank you so much 🙏. I’ve been miserable for a week and this is just what I needed! Did a little while watching and can tell it’s going to be a relief to practice this therapy daily. So appreciate this info!!
Maybe the fascia that’s tightening around the muscles, nerves and blood vessels is also compressing on the lymphatic system? I’m not sure but it doesn’t hurt to try right? Just start off gently
My man! Thank you... I've been to the VA and I've expressed that my neck has been clicking, popping, and getting stuck around my throat for over a year now. I had an HNT exam with a scope down my throat just to make sure it wasn't cancer. I never even heard of this (TOS) and I've been researching Hodgkins Lymphoma syndromes due to my lack of confidence in my PC. I did this while watching and I felt instant relief and all the misalignment I've been feeling disappeared almost instantly. I will still keep with my due diligence and request my PC to send me to PT for this. Thank you!
I’m glad to hear that brotha. I was in a similar boat whenThe VA couldn’t help me so I had to figure it out on my own. Keep up your self care, it’s only real way to get pain free.
Pro-tip: place some coconut oil on your neck before you start your thoracic self-massage. Makes it much easier to massage between the fine spaces in the neck muscles.
Omg this is actually helping! I've been in excruciating pain since sleeping funny before Christmas and am taking so many pain pills, but still in pain. I think this will help over several days.
This is insane, I've had this issue come and go as I do boxing, and tend to be overusing it due to naturally the tensing up and posture issues as mentioned, my primary care was confused for a while and disregarded it, I did get some exercises to deal with it but it would keep coming back and they would not feel as effective. This is one of the most effective exercises, and it works amazinly, thank you so much!
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I can not tell you how many countless hours ive looked up ways to alleviate my shoulder rounding forward and the pain in the teres major and tight posterior capsule. But this helped immediately
Ive been battling with tingling and numbness on my whole left arm down to the fingers. And the neck exercises gave me instant relief!! Ive seen alot of professionals to help me with this problem yet none talked about or even provided any info on releasing/relaxing my neck muscles... im super glad that I got lost and found your video! This helped me immensely!!
Please could you do a video on sleeping positions to help alleviate severe pain and numbness in the arms and hands? I can't sleep at night as pain becomes excruciating with swelling of fingers and usual TOS symptoms. I will follow your plan too. Great videos from someone who seems to know what it's all about!
I had bad TOS from an unstable bite due to poorly done orthodontics when I was a kid. Took years, had to get proper orthodontics and an orthotic Gelb appliance (basically a discrete retainer-like guard for my back teeth. Largely resolved TOS. Just mention this in case others are struggling, it didn't occur to me that it was my bite for years.
I can't thank you enough. I had a ski injury years ago that never really resolved to the point where recently the pain was affecting my performance as a ward nurse. You know it's bad when your patients say "is your neck bothering you?" In order to heal others we must heal ourselves first!
Ive been going to physical therapist and in and out of doctor offices for the past year, and i never got an answer on what could be the problem. I just know the pain in my right shoulder has effected my entire arm witch has caused a down hill spiral in my abilty to provide for my family. im around 20k in very unhealthy debt mabye more as ive lost count, and have still has no luck in any treatments. Within 2 minutes of showing the massage techniques i felt the tightness in my arm release and the pain faded very quickly after that. THANKYOU
52 yrs. Being nagged by my family then myself as the curved in shoulders seems to be genetic. 23 yrs since a life altering car accident. Initial treatment @ one of worlds #1 hospitals and basically anyone and every one since. Never has anyone addressed this! Each muscle you addressed was literally hard as rock! Thank you so much! This is wonderful!
This is 💯 EXACTLY what I need!! Omg I haven't even started this and I just KNOW it's going to help me so much. Actually tearing up here. 😢 ENDLESS thanks. 🙏🙏🙏❤
I had TOS surgery about a year ago. still get symptoms in the hand down the arm and towards collorbone. I had the first rib removed for the procedure. out of all of the exercises and post TOS surgery things I was told to do, this method with stretching the neck has helped the most! thankyou sir!
First off, I’m very sorry you had to go through all of that. It sounds horrible. 2nd, I’m very happy to hear you are finally greeting some good relief! Keep it up!
If you I had the rib removed why are your nerves still impinged? Asking for a friend who is considering the surgery as the physio program isn't really working.
@@cloudkaiwiz just saw this now, cheers! Did you receive any recommendations regarding the very likely possibility of an imbalance created by the absence of the rib on one side?
First of all, THANK YOU for this video. I've been struggling with nerve pain and circulation issues in my arms and hands, PT was kind of helpful for incorporating some TOS stretches but not enough. This helped me discover that EXTREMELY tight scalenes are probably the culprit. Question, though (and for anyone else who wants to answer): when I do the first stretch, I feel blood rush to the affected side but also a lot of tingling and sometimes heaviness. Is this ok or should I avoid this stretch, and if so what might be the cause?
Fantastic video, very few others address the scalenes, subclavius, and pec minor. I had what was suspected to be TOS a couple of years ago, which presented as constant pain on the edge of my scap, and pain/tingling down my arm into my fingers. My massage therapist originally started on the infraspinatus, but then suggested the scalenes which were, in his words, "like piano wires" 🙂. I stay on top of it now with self myofascial release and do my own cupping.
@Carol Moore Ya, sadly, I learned about this other stuff through other methods besides massage school. being a trainer, yoga instructor, etc. I have been able to see how to treat the same problem through different lenses and it has helped me see the bigger pattern.. in my opinion.
YOU, Sir, are a MIRACLE WORKER!! I have Ben suffering with acute symptoms since a bad massage 10 weeks ago created massive neuropathy - no doubt just the finishing touch to bad posture and tightness. I had recently (last three days) fallen into some self massage in exactly the areas you are recommending, and have magically gotten relief. I will implement your more precise prescription . Thank you!!!!
I have had pain for 21 years. After a disc colapsed. In my neck. I started pulling my head in a strange posision to avoid the worst pain. I did that for over 21 years. I looked for help. Nobody understood. I looked on internet and understood it was TOS. Finally found you. My streching have not been sucsessful. I will seriosly do what you rekommed. Massage first. I am hopeful. And I start today my new treatment. Thank you ❤
In both deltoids I have a hard lump, like a lot of tension, it's as if something impeded the flow of my muscle, the doctors say it's not important, but sometimes when I pronounce certain words or speak fast my right deltoid hurts
My physio therapist and my massage therapist both discouraged me from doing these kind of massages on the neck because they were afraid that I‘ts gonna damage the nerves. I think they were just cautious but it does not help me. Thanks for confirming that what I‘m intuitively doing is actually good for me!!! Love this❤
I’m sorry your massage therapist or pt isn’t confident enough to work your neck. Just start slow and work your way up to a little more pressure. And if you hit a nerve, then simply move over and try again. It’s not a big deal. You got this.🦾🫡
Right on…good for you. Oh how many times have I been proven to be right by listening to my intuition and the “experts” wrong, sometimes to the point of damaging me. Always trust your gut!! 💜
Im glad to hear it! gotta do the exercises though to keep that pain away. release the bad tension first with massage, build new tension later with exercise
Hey thanks for the reply. Which exercises to strengthen are you referring to? Doing self massage for years ... must have missed something. Day 2 of your technique & feeling better today than yesterday + ongoing relief on both sides for multiple/diff issues. Thanks again!
Thank you! The pain from this is just so debilitating some days! Been to probably 10 chiropractors over 3 decades and all are clueless. It's so frustrating trying to get "professionals" 😒 to actually diagnose you correctly and provide solutions. Any idea why so many with this condition are being failed by the "medical" community? Thanks again. ❤️
I'm glad you found this video helpful. My guess on why the medical community isn't effective is because doctors wont look outside their scope of practice. Plus I've seen plenty of doctors dismiss massage as a legit source for pain relief. With all that said, there are good doctor out there, they are just rare.
I totally agree. I've had mone for decades and just get dismissed or told it's mind over matter. I've never found a specialist in this field, hence why 30 years on, I have disabling pain and xant function. Even brushing my hair is a challenge.
There's typically no insurance reimbursement for massage. Medical "professionals" are all too often at the beck and call of insurance companies, they let the insurance idiots decide which treatments are allowed. There's a lot more money to be be made from surgical interventions.
yooo... why are your massages so helpful.. I just literally had a cold shoulder and peck, and doing these instantly made me relieved even tho i need to contiue the stretches for weeks, but I felt like crying a little bit because the pain everywhere went away for about a few seconds. you have soemthing and I hope a lot of people with TOS can find this video please. I am going to get PT and I have a mri next weeek and a chiro app next week. thank you a lot
I spend 12-15 hours a day hunched over my computer. Doctors suggested all kinds of things, but no one mentioned TOS. I came across it on the Internet, and now I stumbled across your video. Your stretches reach right where it hurts the most. Thank you so much for making this video.
so very thankful for this video brother thank you! ❤️ and how long/reps and should i do these daily? also can this maybe fix my winged scapula cause all the working out and stretching i been doing since forever are doing nothing, still the same since i started and nothings changed.
I would do this 3x a week. Work on it for an hour-ish. This might help winged scapula, but there’s also other videos for that too. Thanks for your support! 🫡🦾
Best advice so far ..hands down...im just having a hard time self messaging my neck...I feel like im not doing it right...but atleast its a step in the right direction!.... Thanks!
@@TrainandMassage well theres a super tender spot on my neck, that always feels like the muscle is being pulled...seems always tight and inflammed... so im not sure if I massage that spot is a good thing...seems to agitate it ..and make it worse..its so weird...i had this for over 2 years..and I can't seem to get rid of it.. really annoying..but I really think it comes from a tight chest..and behind the clavical seems very messed up.. im a bodybuilder..and train 6 days a week...very intense too... its the only thing that keeps me sane.. you think the peck muscle thats tight can cause my neck to be messed up?
tight muscles creating pain isnt normal. Try holding that tension and paying attention the pain. See if it gets worse or better. It is very possible to get worse before it gets better. it could take 30s up to 2 minutes. and It might take multiple attempts to get it to release. A tight chest can pull the clavicle down, which in turn pulls the neck forward. So it might be a reason for it. It might also be the subclavius or the suboccipital creating more tension. My TOS Challenge addresses a lot of these issues and teach you how to properly release them.
@@TrainandMassage thanks man..i'll keep working at it..im finding some tender spots in the neck..ill try to keep massaging them..and see if it helps... at least i know that its ok if it hurts...im always paranoid in making it worse...
"if you're watching this, chances are you know what _somethin somethin_ syndrome is..." uh no...that's uh..actually why i'm watching. cuz i _don't_ know and this was recommended to me and the thumbnail looked like neck pain or tightness that i sometimes experience so... explain away, ser!
Thank you for this video and your others. Amazed, it makes so much sense as I've been working at correcting my neck hump and rounded shoulders for quite some time now. This is wonderful to be able to feel a differance quickly. I'm 63 and I just can't thank you enough
My neck pain stopped and I can breath better again, i was starting to panic because I didn’t understand how to treat my pain. I have an MRI scan tomorrow and they choose to schedule me a month and a half after my first appt with the doctor, I’ve been in pain the WHOLE TIME.
I definitely have this problem. Lots of pain in these areas, and trigger point about halfway up my neck on the right side. I think this has also resulted in TMJ and extreme tightness between my eye and ear on the same side. What are some techniques to relieve facial muscle tightness/pain and how can I find and address the underlying issue?
One thing I notice is people don’t hold the pressure long enough to relieve pain in the head. Find a tender spot within the muscle and hold that pressure until the pain goes away. I’m coming out with a video in 2 weeks addressing headaches so it should be right up your alley.
I went to physio therapy because of dislocated discs at L4/L5 and from the physio (i think it was the butterfly machine) i got such nerve pain, started deep below the right trapezius and went the neck up to my ear/teeth. Got several injections that did nothing. Its hard to find anything because its all hard as a rock
5 year TOS sufferer and looking forward to starting your routines as soon as I'm done typing this! I have a couple of questions. (1) Which posture brace would you recommend? I'm not a spring chicken and need as much help as I can correcting my lifetime of poor posture. 2) I get great relief when I get migraines from massaging and pressing down on my upper trapezius. Can you recommend some self massage techniques?
I really do hope it helps! There's also a program in the description for a TOS challenge on sale right now. If this is helpful then you might want to consider it. 1. Not a fan of posture braces so I can't recommended one. Sorry 2. Try this video for the traps. What you're describing is a common trigger point issue. (this doesn't mean it cant be something else though) ua-cam.com/video/ilFAgUeXHeo/v-deo.html
Thank you! My scalenes(really knotty), scm, subclavius, and pec minor on my left side were brutal to massage. I can actually move my neck and shoulders freely now! Will keep releasing these areas, stretching, and strengthening so I can create permanent change!
Hey guys, is it normal to get intense tingling down the arm while you’re massaging these areas. (For me it’s the scalenes and subclavian) I just don’t know if I’m overdoing it or it’s to be expected? It forces me to take a break because of how intense it is.
Im glad to hear that. It usually is a little painful in the beginning but it feels so much better right after. Keep it up and take it slow. you got this!@@kcmeyer88
This really helped. Part of my problem is exasperated by the fact that I'm a side/stomach sleeper. It's extremely difficult to get to sleep on my back; so, when I wake up, it's generally to a numb hand on the bottom side... Or both if I wake up on my stomach. I just hope that this also helps me to painlessly sleep on my side again; so, I don't have to try for 4 hours to sleep on my back, or I turn over and give into the fact that I'm causing more damage just to go to sleep already.
Love how you talked about the separating the tissues and massage first. I did notice a difference when I did that first. I’ve had dorsal scap nerve damage for years and now of course ToS and CostoChondritis thanks for this!
Thank you! This is so helpful! Two questions, though. 1) Does it make sense that TOS would create a tingly-fiery pain in my ear? 2) When I attempt to manipulate the pec minor, I get a searing pain, not just a sore spot. Might that indicate an injury rather than just tightness? I don't want to do an exercise that might make it worse.
Trigger point and fascia pain can create both of those feelings. With that said, start off slow and see how it feels a day or 2 after. It’s normal to be sore after esp if you never did this before.
I've been doing SCM stretches every day for 6 months with a teeny bit of help. And on top of that getting massages weekly (feels a bit better for a day or two.) BUT YOUR treatment for TOS has REALLY helped me (and left those muscles sore! lol). Thanks so much. I think I'm on to something now!
If you liked this video, you're going to love this one: ->
ua-cam.com/video/lGoCLlF-40A/v-deo.html
right when i needed it, thanks boss
I am crying right now 🥺 I have been to Neurologist, physically therapy, brain scans, etc.
I suggested that it might be Thoracic outlet syndrome and they told me no.
The constant tingling, numbness, burning and sometimes weakness was so bad that I started getting depressed 😔
I just followed your routine and I feel 100th percent better.
I am a hair stylist and photographer, so it's a double whammy.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, you are the best 😭😭😭❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
I'm very happy to hear you are 100% better! Your jobs will def have these issue so good for you to think of it! keep it up!
Me too!! I have an entire list of doctors and things I’ve tried. I brought up TOS TO MY NUERO, an ortho, anyone and they all said no. And made me feel super dumb!
I’m an esthetician and remove hair, I think it was the lashes that f***** me up
@@christinabrownell I'm so sorry to hear that! I have dealt with neurogenic TOS for 8 years (played violin all my life) and FINALLY scheduled surgery for late this December. Keep trying and you will get recognized for your persistence!
Same. Neurologist, MRI brain scan, MRI of spine & brachial plexus...
Absolutely agree! It isn't age that creates pain, it's bad posture (and neglect) catching up with us!
Facts!💪
Thank you so much Adam, i am eternally grateful to you brother.
21 years of constant pain and crackling in my neck every time i turn right associated with continuous nasty headaches on a daily basis, lethargy, brain fog, forgetfulness and a prominent 24/7 vein on my right temporal area.
I might have an Atlas problem but your technique really brought a unmatched relief of the pain.
I began rubbing heated castor oil ( throw some salt and some olive oil)
To break up the deep adhesions and fascia restrictions , ⚠️ This is very vital for you guys.
Thank you so much Adam, may Allah bless you ❤🤲🏻.
Thank you so much! Im glad to know it helped!
@@TrainandMassage maybe you will not be rewarded enough in this life, but i am positive that Allah will reward you brother 😍.
you save my life 6 year of numbness and tingling and pain now i feel to much better 😥
I’m so happy to hear that you have finally found some relief! I’m also sorry it took this long. Stay consistent and you’ll feel better.
My collar on my left side protrudes out because of this. Very thankful for this video.
I hope it helps!
Hi, thanks for the video. How often or how many times a week do you recommend to do the massages and stretches? Thank you :)
2-3 times a weeks going at a gentle to medium pressure.
how often can I do the pec self massage a day I have knots there in the traps and lots on the rhomboids
If you’re going gently then you can do it daily. Even a few times a day. If you start to feel sore then it’s time to take a break.
How to fix this problem forever?
Work on it
Awesome
Thank you🦾🫡
8:10 Pro tip for the pec minor - if you don't have a yoga block, you can use a door frame with the trigger point ball, on each side. Essentially allowing you to lean past the frame into an open doorway.
Great tip!
Exactly what I was gonna do as soon as he showed this move since I don’t have a yoga block 😎
Over a 100k spent at the doctors....and they NEVER even came up with what is wrong with me. I watcha video and Im dang near cured.. Thank you. I hate the medical field!!!
I’m so happy to hear that you finally got some relief! Keep it up 🫡🦾
No way! What where your symptoms?
Exactly me RIGHT NOW
kidnappers!!!!!
Same. Great video!
I’m a therapist with 12 yrs exp everything he is saying is accurate. One thing I like to do that the patient hates is isolating the muscle with my fingers and gliding them down the muscles as the patient stretches in the opposite direction. It’s called active release technique and it works every time. Patient hates you for a few minutes but then loves you forever 24 hrs later. I always make them ice afterwards. They always request it if it flares up again.
Thank you! Keep up your great work! 🦾🫡
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His line about getting old just being bad posture catching up with you really hurts.
How come people feel called to tell others their job and confirm what is accurate or not? Getting to know and knowing your body is a matter of living as/with/in it. People are able to figure out themselves what feels good. You do not need any diploma nor school to know all that.
@@warfreddy6968everyone gets old with their birth. That doesn't mean everyone experience physical pain or is doomed to be a certain way. It's a matter of self-care how you live your life.
I’m a musician, composer, and music teacher. I’ve been suffering for the last four years from what I now believe to be TOS, which has severely affected my ability to do what I love. The exercises in this video are an incredible help. Thank you!
Im terrible with anything to do with music haha but I’m very happy to hear you are finding some relief, keep it up and let me know sometime in the future how its going!
I relate to this 100%. I hope you're feeling better
Hi there,
I’m a conductor as well and barely can use my left arm due to TOS. Do you have recommendations for sleeping positions, stretches exercises or massage?
I'm a musician, composer and teacher too but had to give up performing and most things due to TOS so I feel your pain! I was a professional musician but TOS has ruined my career...this guy really knows his stuff. If only I'd known about him years ago but better late than never. Keep positive and don't ever give up ❤
@@a.duncan2216 Have just asked the same question. I can barely use my arms thanks to TOS.
self massage techniques:
3:15 scalenes
4:02 SCM
6:26 subclavius
7:30 pec minor
stretching:
9:50 scalenes
10:48 pec minor
11:30 pec major
exercises:
12:16 rhomboids
I love you ❤
Thank you
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Dear god. The pain relief. Thank you. Months of suffering.
Im happy to hear that! Keep it up!
How common is this? Why has none of the physiotherapists and doctors I have been to never ever said anything about it to me? This is the pain I have been living with for at least 10 years and without realising it, I had been doing some of the massaging techniques you describes myself. It was the only stuff that helped relieve some of the discomfort and pain. I have ever had a full body scan done, including bone scan, because the doctors could not figure out what was causing my pain. So upset now about the lost time and resources :/
I feel you on that. I had similar issues with hip and back pain and just bounced around from Dr to Dr. My theory is that massage isn't looked at (yet) as an alternative to PT. Until that happens, I hope these videos are able to help you out in the meantime.
His mouth and teeth movement looks like AI.
Reminds me of flapping heads of Canadians in South Park
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I'm a new TOS experiencer. I intuitively fashioned a routine that helped, cobbling together a bit here and there. Your comprehensive program is my go-to and I'm going to be doing this regularly. I've never felt pain like TOS, And I don't plan to let it happen ever again! Thanks so much!!
You’re very welcome! I’m happy to hear that! 🦾🫡
I have watched TONS of videos, seen chiropractors, had to leave my last job because I couldn’t lift boxes in my receiving department over the last year . I did a couple of your neck massages and this is the first time I’ve felt relief, and I finally feel like I have some hope. Thank you so much 😭
Im happy to hear you are seeing some relief now! Keep it up!
I lost my job to TOS also. I couldn’t keep up, I’ve had to cut back my life dramatically. Have you considered surgery?
Don't give up, keep doing exercises stretches and use a heating pad to promote good blood flow. In addition to all this I've been hanging upside down using an inversion table. I've improved a lot but overuse and fatigue of the muscles brings back my symptoms especially when I sit hunched over at my desk, couple more weeks and I think it'll be gone for good
@@johnames6430 how did things go?
Awful stressful music filled anxiety producing vibes. Otherwise good video
Dude I don't know how you did it but mine immediately got better. The numbness went away instantaneously, I'm speechless like wtf? Thanks man
lol, I didn’t do it, you did! Sometimes you just need to know where to poke. I’m glad you’re feeling better! 🫡🦾
Im glad to hear the magic worked lol@@TruthofDilly
The story is longgg but let's just say that nothing and nobody helped until I randomly came across your video. You are a life saver! Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤
I’m soo happy to hear that you’re feeling some relief. Keep it up!
Postural restoration is great too!
By far BEST TOS video in existence. Thank you Thank you Thank you! I can’t wait to start implementing this daily & improve! I was completely unaware of the necessity of self-massage prior to stretching….no wonder my TOS has been a problem for 9 years. I’m filled with hope now 😀 thank you again!
I’m very happy to hear you’re feeling some results finally! Keep it up and hopefully it will over soon.
I'm a member of a TMJD Facebook group that emphasizes the importance of addressing trigger points. The group's guide suggests using our hands to massage these muscles initially. As the trigger points become less intense, one can gradually use a back knob tool to work on the upper back. This approach has been instrumental in alleviating my jaw problems.
Trigger points can def play a huge role in all of these different kinds of pain! Keep it up!
@jnacrelli23 have you consulted any neuromuscular dentist yet?
I’m in tears! Instant relief. This is a chronic problem for me and I’ve never had this suggested. Thank you!!!!
You are welcome! I’m glad it’s able to help! 🫡🦾
"...your posture catching up to you that gave you your pain' oh mate, true words right there😭 great video
Thank you! I hope it helps!
Holy pain, I'm so tender I'm crying in the pec release....omg ...my nerve pain that started so I found u...the tightness w massage brought me to tears and took my breathe away....with feeling relief...I'm blown away
Thank God I found u...I didn't know these tight muscles and trigger points existed
Do we do this every day or 3 x a day also
lol. It’s that feel good pain! If youre sore tomorrow then skip a day if not then go easier then today so you dont over do it.
I would take a break every other day at least if you’re not getting sore from it.
I’m glad it’s helping!
THANK YOU👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏🫵🫵🫵🫵💪💪💪💪🤗🤗🤗🤗
You’re welcome! 🫡🦾
Well explained love it. I feel like i have hope now! Just a quick question. Not sure i have TOS but all the symptoms that you have mentioned i have! I have knots on my scalene muscles and clicking neck and shoulders. Left side more painful than right. Clicking occurs mostly when lifting arms up/down or any movement involving shoulders. Also neck clicking occurs frequently. Really have a bad urge to crack neck most of the time. Can these symptoms occur with TOS? Any input/guidance appreciated…many thanks 👍🏽
The knots can most likely create a lot of those issues. Definitely try to massage those out!
I want to take the time out to say thank you. I have been suffering from chronic pain since 2017. it started with a repetitive motion injury where i used my right arm to torque a part for 8 hours a day and something just popped and it shot up my head and i instantly started feeling numb on one side i went to the hospital. cut to this past week and i was never able to combat that pain. it was bad and i asked the lord to get me out of this and somehow after all these years i came accross your video. God is good and thank you for putting your content online for free
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep up your self care and you’ll be pain free in no time!
Amen God is good 🙏🙌✝️
spent thousands on MRIs and x-rays, thinking it was spine issue or anything. Mostly til that it waa due to cervical issue, which I still find myself scratching my heas how. Anyways really helped. I finally understood why my chirO stresses so much on posture balance.
Thank you for sharing, Im happy to hear youre finally getting some relief!
I have been suffering with TOS for almost 3 years now I had no idea I even had it until I went in for wrist pain. I have gone through occupational therapy which helps but doesn’t last. I’m desperate and tired of being in so much pain. I was told my pregnancy most likely caused it. I feel like my ribs are being stabbed constantly. Hurts to sleep on my back and sides it’s miserable. Hopefully these exercises will help because doctors don’t want to spend the time to actually treat me. Instead I get told “ there’s nothing clinically wrong”.
I hope this is able to help! Take it easy in the beginning because it will most likely be painful and tender.
Wow! Great relief. Woke up with worsened Cervical spondylosis symptoms and needed some stretches to help relief symptoms and found this. Felt so much relaxed afterwards and sleepy too - bonus. Thank you so much. You've made my life better today.
First, holy sh#t! When I tell you I feel 100% better after the massages, I am speaking nothing but the truth! After months of watching UA-cam vids, going to a chiropractor and having acupuncture, this video alone has created such a sense of relief, instantly! This is the first video that popped up in my recommendations that specifically mentioned Thoratic Outlet Syndrome. I wasn’t sure if I should watch but I am glad I did!
I work from home on a computer everyday and my neck issue has been giving me the blues since last year. Neither of my chiropractors have mentioned these massages first before stretching. I kinda feel that’s a no-brainer and probably my bad for not asking, but I just can’t get over the relief I’m feeling! Like someone else mentioned in the comments, I was beginning to get very depressed. I was experiencing brain fog, occasional double vision, tingling in my fingers and arms, and almost questioning if I was able to adequately take on my workload to any degree of success. I can go on but wow! This is such a relief! My only question is how often should the massages and stretched be done a day? It felt so good I wouldn’t mind doing it multiple times a day! Thank you again!
I’m soo happy to hear you’re finally getting relief!
You can do the massages daily if you’re taking it easy. Be warned it might feel sore after, the same kind of feeling as working out hard.
Keep it up! You’re in control of your health🦾
So do we do this more than once?
Try to do it every other day@@cynthiamartinez3192
Yes, you're right on point with all those muscles that trigger so much pain. But my problem isn't bad posture, though I could always work on that. My problem was a seat belt impact from a car accident years ago, and there's so many more muscles that also hurt. What I'm trying to figure out is, if my "tennis elbow" pain (also from repetitive grocery job and ceramic art) will dissipate by stretching these muscle groups and doing strengthening exercises?? I'm gotta admit the pain doesn't inspire me to exercise right now, but I do want to stay strong to do ceramics for many years. Any information is welcome. Thank you for putting out these videos.
I would try the massages out and see what happens. You can also try massaging the muscles around the elbow.
Awesome video! I self diagnosed myself w/ TOS when i started having numbness on my left arm. I did all the special test to clear it! Had awesome release from my boss today and came across your video today. Totally agree w/ myofascial release first before lengthening and strengthening exercises. :)
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it
Awesome brother! I have been instinctively working these areas and this was confirmation im on the right track. (Age 55, able to do lots of physical stuff and i live for outdoors) I think people jump to surgery way too fast, potentially complicating things, instead of reversing the causes. A lot is within our ability to improve, for free, and at home. Of course, i couldn't remove my own appendix so grateful there were very fine surgeons for that : )
Thanks for the great info! Be well !
lol. Exactly! Doctors are great for stuff we can’t do ourselves but most of it we can do if we just worked on it. Keep it up brotha! 🫡🦾
Amazing! I have had this problem for over 30 years and have been to many different Doctors, Physio and Chiropractors with little to no relief. After watching your video and following your recommendations; I am amazed at the results, thank you for bringing back my pain free mobility!
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep up the self care Kelly and you’ll be feeling half your age in no time! 🫡🦾
Hey man felt instant relief. Can I workout for bodybuilding or does weight training make this worse?
Try it and see how it feels. Usually over head and chest exercises aggravate the nerves and blood vessels
The way you show the muscle diagrams over the part of the body is really helpful in visualising how to pinpoint it. You are helping so many people with a lot of pain and restriction in their daily lives. Would using vibrating equipment e.g. gardening power tools daily have any correlation with TOS?
Thank you for the comment, I truly appreciate it! I believe it would be more your body and arm position during work that contributes to it rather than the specific work itself.
Sadly its not avoidable unless you learn how to garden behind you back haha.
my father got TOS from using vibrant equipment (I don't know the name of the tool), but I know he had his hands down, so it is possible
i once made my self pass out going into the neck like this. be carefull :d
lol.
Thank you so much 🙏. I’ve been miserable for a week and this is just what I needed! Did a little while watching and can tell it’s going to be a relief to practice this therapy daily. So appreciate this info!!
I’m so happy to hear that. Keep it up!🦾🫡
Could TOS cause lymphatic clogging? Doctors just keep giving me the run around. Sending me to the dentist and other aimless paths
Maybe the fascia that’s tightening around the muscles, nerves and blood vessels is also compressing on the lymphatic system?
I’m not sure but it doesn’t hurt to try right? Just start off gently
@TrainandMassage yea I think thats very possible. I think my upper ribs sometimes displace as well
Thanks for the response!
My man! Thank you... I've been to the VA and I've expressed that my neck has been clicking, popping, and getting stuck around my throat for over a year now. I had an HNT exam with a scope down my throat just to make sure it wasn't cancer. I never even heard of this (TOS) and I've been researching Hodgkins Lymphoma syndromes due to my lack of confidence in my PC. I did this while watching and I felt instant relief and all the misalignment I've been feeling disappeared almost instantly. I will still keep with my due diligence and request my PC to send me to PT for this. Thank you!
I’m glad to hear that brotha. I was in a similar boat whenThe VA couldn’t help me so I had to figure it out on my own. Keep up your self care, it’s only real way to get pain free.
Pro-tip: place some coconut oil on your neck before you start your thoracic self-massage. Makes it much easier to massage between the fine spaces in the neck muscles.
Thanks its 2:45 am and the pain was bothering me that much it waked me up. Just doing first massages and it got alot better. Thanks adam alot
I’m very happy to hear that you were able to get some relief. Keep it up! 🦾
Omg this is actually helping! I've been in excruciating pain since sleeping funny before Christmas and am taking so many pain pills, but still in pain. I think this will help over several days.
lol. I’m glad it’s working! Keep it up for better results!
Thank you! I have woken up this morning in considerably less pain! Definitely repeating this. Is it ok to do daily?
I would do it 3-5x a week. You can do it daily if youre not sore@@MrsBrit1
This is insane, I've had this issue come and go as I do boxing, and tend to be overusing it due to naturally the tensing up and posture issues as mentioned, my primary care was confused for a while and disregarded it, I did get some exercises to deal with it but it would keep coming back and they would not feel as effective. This is one of the most effective exercises, and it works amazinly, thank you so much!
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep it up! 🦾
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I can not tell you how many countless hours ive looked up ways to alleviate my shoulder rounding forward and the pain in the teres major and tight posterior capsule. But this helped immediately
Let’s go! I’m happy to hear that! Keep it up.
Ive been battling with tingling and numbness on my whole left arm down to the fingers. And the neck exercises gave me instant relief!! Ive seen alot of professionals to help me with this problem yet none talked about or even provided any info on releasing/relaxing my neck muscles... im super glad that I got lost and found your video! This helped me immensely!!
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep it up! 🦾🫡
Can i do this if i have chronic scalene muscle pain in side of my neck? I'm not sure if it's TOS but all my symptoms sound the same
Yes you can do this, just be aware it might be sore or tender in the beginning.
thanks for the reply I will give it a try 😀
Please could you do a video on sleeping positions to help alleviate severe pain and numbness in the arms and hands? I can't sleep at night as pain becomes excruciating with swelling of fingers and usual TOS symptoms. I will follow your plan too. Great videos from someone who seems to know what it's all about!
Thank you. The best option for sleeping is to do some self care prior to bed.
Pleeeeeeseee!
You should sleep on your back and avoid sleeping on your sides nor stomach.
@@manoachpwe know. It's incredibly uncomfortable . It is what it is.
It gets better with time. You get used to it@@KARENboomboomROXX
I had bad TOS from an unstable bite due to poorly done orthodontics when I was a kid. Took years, had to get proper orthodontics and an orthotic Gelb appliance (basically a discrete retainer-like guard for my back teeth. Largely resolved TOS. Just mention this in case others are struggling, it didn't occur to me that it was my bite for years.
I can't thank you enough. I had a ski injury years ago that never really resolved to the point where recently the pain was affecting my performance as a ward nurse. You know it's bad when your patients say "is your neck bothering you?" In order to heal others we must heal ourselves first!
Im glad to hear it. Keep it up!
Ive been going to physical therapist and in and out of doctor offices for the past year, and i never got an answer on what could be the problem. I just know the pain in my right shoulder has effected my entire arm witch has caused a down hill spiral in my abilty to provide for my family. im around 20k in very unhealthy debt mabye more as ive lost count, and have still has no luck in any treatments. Within 2 minutes of showing the massage techniques i felt the tightness in my arm release and the pain faded very quickly after that. THANKYOU
I’m happy to hear that! Keep up those massages! If it’s your first time then it might feel sore after massaging it.
You got this!
52 yrs. Being nagged by my family then myself as the curved in shoulders seems to be genetic. 23 yrs since a life altering car accident. Initial treatment @ one of worlds #1 hospitals and basically anyone and every one since. Never has anyone addressed this! Each muscle you addressed was literally hard as rock! Thank you so much! This is wonderful!
I’m sorry it took so long but hopefully you can now get some real relief! Thank you for your support! 🫡🦾
This is 💯 EXACTLY what I need!! Omg I haven't even started this and I just KNOW it's going to help me so much. Actually tearing up here. 😢
ENDLESS thanks. 🙏🙏🙏❤
I hope it helps! Let me know how it goes!
I had TOS surgery about a year ago. still get symptoms in the hand down the arm and towards collorbone. I had the first rib removed for the procedure. out of all of the exercises and post TOS surgery things I was told to do, this method with stretching the neck has helped the most! thankyou sir!
First off, I’m very sorry you had to go through all of that. It sounds horrible. 2nd, I’m very happy to hear you are finally greeting some good relief! Keep it up!
Hi, glad you got better, I'm on the same boat as you. You had both 1st ribs removed or just one of the sides?
@@ivoc3993 just the right side
If you I had the rib removed why are your nerves still impinged? Asking for a friend who is considering the surgery as the physio program isn't really working.
@@cloudkaiwiz just saw this now, cheers! Did you receive any recommendations regarding the very likely possibility of an imbalance created by the absence of the rib on one side?
Anyone else have TOS that also restricts blood flow in the arm? (Redness, swelling, bruising)
That’s one type!
I would also add that during massage of the subclavius it's best to do deep inhale and exhale as you want to encourage the first rib to move down
Great comment, I’m going to make a note of that for a future video. Thank you.
Thanks for the content. Could you give some info on double crush syndrome, specifically in my case TOS + carpal tunnel? Thank you 🙏
Youre welcome! I’ll take a look into it! 🫡🦾
Watching this while laying in bed & did a few of them - excited to do this all tomorrow!
Let me know how it goes! 🦾🫡
First of all, THANK YOU for this video. I've been struggling with nerve pain and circulation issues in my arms and hands, PT was kind of helpful for incorporating some TOS stretches but not enough. This helped me discover that EXTREMELY tight scalenes are probably the culprit.
Question, though (and for anyone else who wants to answer): when I do the first stretch, I feel blood rush to the affected side but also a lot of tingling and sometimes heaviness. Is this ok or should I avoid this stretch, and if so what might be the cause?
That’s fascia what you’re most likely feeling and it’s normal when it feels like that, esp if you never worked on them.
Fantastic video, very few others address the scalenes, subclavius, and pec minor. I had what was suspected to be TOS a couple of years ago, which presented as constant pain on the edge of my scap, and pain/tingling down my arm into my fingers. My massage therapist originally started on the infraspinatus, but then suggested the scalenes which were, in his words, "like piano wires" 🙂. I stay on top of it now with self myofascial release and do my own cupping.
Glad it was helpful! Most people (and massage therapists) ignore the front of the body. It’s crazy to me but hey, what can you do?
@Carol Moore Ya, sadly, I learned about this other stuff through other methods besides massage school. being a trainer, yoga instructor, etc. I have been able to see how to treat the same problem through different lenses and it has helped me see the bigger pattern.. in my opinion.
Liking and subscribing, i
Wish i could pay you!!!
So helpful thank you. I'm a retired rmt and have a hard time getting quality treatment. This was a great instructive self help tutorial
Thank you so much! 🦾
Awesome video! Very helpful information!
You’re welcome!
YOU, Sir, are a MIRACLE WORKER!! I have Ben suffering with acute symptoms since a bad massage 10 weeks ago created massive neuropathy - no doubt just the finishing touch to bad posture and tightness. I had recently (last three days) fallen into some self massage in exactly the areas you are recommending, and have magically gotten relief. I will implement your more precise prescription . Thank you!!!!
Thank you. I’m very excited to see other people getting these results!
I have had pain for 21 years. After a disc colapsed. In my neck. I started pulling my head in a strange posision to avoid the worst pain. I did that for over 21 years. I looked for help. Nobody understood. I looked on internet and understood it was TOS. Finally found you. My streching have not been sucsessful. I will seriosly do what you rekommed. Massage first. I am hopeful. And I start today my new treatment. Thank you ❤
Can scapular injury, trapezius palsy cause TOS symptoms? Would those TOS affected muscle overcomponsate if having injury in the mentioned region?
Could be. If you asked me, I would say your tos muscles created those specific issues. Of course this is only a guess
In both deltoids I have a hard lump, like a lot of tension, it's as if something impeded the flow of my muscle, the doctors say it's not important, but sometimes when I pronounce certain words or speak fast my right deltoid hurts
Wow, this video is amazing. 💜Thank you for sharing so many techniques and solutions for TOC.
Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful!
My physio therapist and my massage therapist both discouraged me from doing these kind of massages on the neck because they were afraid that I‘ts gonna damage the nerves. I think they were just cautious but it does not help me. Thanks for confirming that what I‘m intuitively doing is actually good for me!!! Love this❤
I’m sorry your massage therapist or pt isn’t confident enough to work your neck. Just start slow and work your way up to a little more pressure. And if you hit a nerve, then simply move over and try again. It’s not a big deal.
You got this.🦾🫡
Right on…good for you. Oh how many times have I been proven to be right by listening to my intuition and the “experts” wrong, sometimes to the point of damaging me. Always trust your gut!! 💜
followed right along with you, found instant relief & holding - thanks! - yet still feels week haven't stetched it just self massage so far.
Im glad to hear it! gotta do the exercises though to keep that pain away. release the bad tension first with massage, build new tension later with exercise
Hey thanks for the reply. Which exercises to strengthen are you referring to? Doing self massage for years ... must have missed something. Day 2 of your technique & feeling better today than yesterday + ongoing relief on both sides for multiple/diff issues. Thanks again!
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Thank you! The pain from this is just so debilitating some days! Been to probably 10 chiropractors over 3 decades and all are clueless. It's so frustrating trying to get "professionals" 😒 to actually diagnose you correctly and provide solutions.
Any idea why so many with this condition are being failed by the "medical" community?
Thanks again. ❤️
I'm glad you found this video helpful. My guess on why the medical community isn't effective is because doctors wont look outside their scope of practice. Plus I've seen plenty of doctors dismiss massage as a legit source for pain relief. With all that said, there are good doctor out there, they are just rare.
I totally agree. I've had mone for decades and just get dismissed or told it's mind over matter. I've never found a specialist in this field, hence why 30 years on, I have disabling pain and xant function. Even brushing my hair is a challenge.
@Carol Moore Thank you so much. I do find most people think of massage as beneath, but thats what Im here to change. Thank you for your support!
There's typically no insurance reimbursement for massage. Medical "professionals" are all too often at the beck and call of insurance companies, they let the insurance idiots decide which treatments are allowed. There's a lot more money to be be made from surgical interventions.
Awesome video thank you so much for sharing this information 🙏 the self massage and stretching and the graphics are wonderful 🪷 you are the best🎉
Thank you so much! 🦾🫡
You are a genius 👏 All the exercises for thoracic syndrome only worked when I followed this massage, got huge relief.
I am so happy to hear that! Keep it up!
Great techniques, really helping, just finding the background music interferes with my concentrating
Thank you so much.
yooo... why are your massages so helpful.. I just literally had a cold shoulder and peck, and doing these instantly made me relieved even tho i need to contiue the stretches for weeks, but I felt like crying a little bit because the pain everywhere went away for about a few seconds. you have soemthing and I hope a lot of people with TOS can find this video please. I am going to get PT and I have a mri next weeek and a chiro app next week. thank you a lot
Thank you and I’m sorry about your shoulder. Hopefully you’re able to find some relief in the upcoming weeks.
Hey great video! Does this syndrome cause difficulty deep breathing? Like having a pinch sensation when breathing?
I don’t believe it will. Thanks for watching. 🦾🫡
I spend 12-15 hours a day hunched over my computer. Doctors suggested all kinds of things, but no one mentioned TOS. I came across it on the Internet, and now I stumbled across your video. Your stretches reach right where it hurts the most. Thank you so much for making this video.
You’re welcome! If you’re finding this useful, then check out my newest video! It goes more in depth on this and more! It’s in the pinned comment!
this is it
this made the pain lessen
I'm practically in tears
i feel like i have some mobility back
thank you
Thank you for sharing! I’m happy to hear it!
I've been having this pain for over a year. THANK YOU ❤️ it really means a lot for me to finally sleep without pain, thank you very much.
Thank you! I’m so happy to hear that you’re finally able to sleep. Keep it up!
so very thankful for this video brother thank you! ❤️ and how long/reps and should i do these daily? also can this maybe fix my winged scapula cause all the working out and stretching i been doing since forever are doing nothing, still the same since i started and nothings changed.
I would do this 3x a week. Work on it for an hour-ish. This might help winged scapula, but there’s also other videos for that too.
Thanks for your support! 🫡🦾
Awesome, man! Thank you for this video.
No problem. I hope it helps!
Great video. I’m an OT with these symptoms. I love the clear demo and explanation for each procedure. I already feel the difference after one session.
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate that coming from an OT!
Best advice so far ..hands down...im just having a hard time self messaging my neck...I feel like im not doing it right...but atleast its a step in the right direction!.... Thanks!
Thank you, I appreciate it! Why do you think you’re not massaging them right?
@@TrainandMassage well theres a super tender spot on my neck, that always feels like the muscle is being pulled...seems always tight and inflammed... so im not sure if I massage that spot is a good thing...seems to agitate it ..and make it worse..its so weird...i had this for over 2 years..and I can't seem to get rid of it.. really annoying..but I really think it comes from a tight chest..and behind the clavical seems very messed up.. im a bodybuilder..and train 6 days a week...very intense too... its the only thing that keeps me sane.. you think the peck muscle thats tight can cause my neck to be messed up?
tight muscles creating pain isnt normal. Try holding that tension and paying attention the pain. See if it gets worse or better. It is very possible to get worse before it gets better. it could take 30s up to 2 minutes. and It might take multiple attempts to get it to release.
A tight chest can pull the clavicle down, which in turn pulls the neck forward. So it might be a reason for it. It might also be the subclavius or the suboccipital creating more tension. My TOS Challenge addresses a lot of these issues and teach you how to properly release them.
@@TrainandMassage thanks man..i'll keep working at it..im finding some tender spots in the neck..ill try to keep massaging them..and see if it helps... at least i know that its ok if it hurts...im always paranoid in making it worse...
@@tankconnors7323 Def keep working at it. muscles shouldnt be tender.
"if you're watching this, chances are you know what _somethin somethin_ syndrome is..."
uh no...that's uh..actually why i'm watching. cuz i _don't_ know and this was recommended to me and the thumbnail looked like neck pain or tightness that i sometimes experience so... explain away, ser!
oh...not even small explanation :/
Thank you for this video and your others. Amazed, it makes so much sense as I've been working at correcting my neck hump and rounded shoulders for quite some time now. This is wonderful to be able to feel a differance quickly. I'm 63 and I just can't thank you enough
That’s awesome you’re already seeing results! Keep it up! 🦾
My neck pain stopped and I can breath better again, i was starting to panic because I didn’t understand how to treat my pain. I have an MRI scan tomorrow and they choose to schedule me a month and a half after my first appt with the doctor, I’ve been in pain the WHOLE TIME.
I’m sorry to hear about your late appointment but I’m happy to hear you’re feeling better! Keep it up!
I definitely have this problem. Lots of pain in these areas, and trigger point about halfway up my neck on the right side. I think this has also resulted in TMJ and extreme tightness between my eye and ear on the same side. What are some techniques to relieve facial muscle tightness/pain and how can I find and address the underlying issue?
One thing I notice is people don’t hold the pressure long enough to relieve pain in the head. Find a tender spot within the muscle and hold that pressure until the pain goes away.
I’m coming out with a video in 2 weeks addressing headaches so it should be right up your alley.
@@TrainandMassage looking forward to the headache video!
I went to physio therapy because of dislocated discs at L4/L5 and from the physio (i think it was the butterfly machine) i got such nerve pain, started deep below the right trapezius and went the neck up to my ear/teeth. Got several injections that did nothing.
Its hard to find anything because its all hard as a rock
If its hard then chances are you need to work it even more. Muscles shouldnt be hard as rocks.
5 year TOS sufferer and looking forward to starting your routines as soon as I'm done typing this! I have a couple of questions. (1) Which posture brace would you recommend? I'm not a spring chicken and need as much help as I can correcting my lifetime of poor posture. 2) I get great relief when I get migraines from massaging and pressing down on my upper trapezius. Can you recommend some self massage techniques?
I really do hope it helps! There's also a program in the description for a TOS challenge on sale right now. If this is helpful then you might want to consider it.
1. Not a fan of posture braces so I can't recommended one. Sorry
2. Try this video for the traps. What you're describing is a common trigger point issue. (this doesn't mean it cant be something else though) ua-cam.com/video/ilFAgUeXHeo/v-deo.html
Outstanding thanks so much for doing this video! I'm a seasoned Bodyworker & would like permission to share this with clients!
Hi there, Thank you for your compliment! I’ll be honored for you to share my content! 🦾🫡
Thank you! My scalenes(really knotty), scm, subclavius, and pec minor on my left side were brutal to massage. I can actually move my neck and shoulders freely now! Will keep releasing these areas, stretching, and strengthening so I can create permanent change!
Hell ya! I’m glad it’s helping! Keep it up!🦾
Hey guys, is it normal to get intense tingling down the arm while you’re massaging these areas. (For me it’s the scalenes and subclavian) I just don’t know if I’m overdoing it or it’s to be expected? It forces me to take a break because of how intense it is.
try again but go at it with a gentle hand. It could be normal feeling tingling in the beginning.
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Ok thank you! And thank you for putting this video together. I’m definitely finding some relief after only a few days. May God bless you sir! 🙏🏻
Im glad to hear that. It usually is a little painful in the beginning but it feels so much better right after. Keep it up and take it slow. you got this!@@kcmeyer88
This really helped.
Part of my problem is exasperated by the fact that I'm a side/stomach sleeper. It's extremely difficult to get to sleep on my back; so, when I wake up, it's generally to a numb hand on the bottom side... Or both if I wake up on my stomach.
I just hope that this also helps me to painlessly sleep on my side again; so, I don't have to try for 4 hours to sleep on my back, or I turn over and give into the fact that I'm causing more damage just to go to sleep already.
You got this! It’s not going to get fixed over night!
Love how you talked about the separating the tissues and massage first. I did notice a difference when I did that first. I’ve had dorsal scap nerve damage for years and now of course ToS and CostoChondritis thanks for this!
Thank you for the compliment! The bodies connected and hopefully working on one will help the other.
@@TrainandMassage thx! It’s been 20 years. I’ve been thru tons of therapy. Hopefully this will help long term with the other exercises for the back.
Next week is going to be a great video for tos and other issues, I’m excited for it. Make sure to be there!
@@TrainandMassage sure will!
I have both also what worked for you ?
Thank you! This is so helpful! Two questions, though.
1) Does it make sense that TOS would create a tingly-fiery pain in my ear?
2) When I attempt to manipulate the pec minor, I get a searing pain, not just a sore spot. Might that indicate an injury rather than just tightness? I don't want to do an exercise that might make it worse.
Trigger point and fascia pain can create both of those feelings. With that said, start off slow and see how it feels a day or 2 after. It’s normal to be sore after esp if you never did this before.
I've been doing SCM stretches every day for 6 months with a teeny bit of help. And on top of that getting massages weekly (feels a bit better for a day or two.) BUT YOUR treatment for TOS has REALLY helped me (and left those muscles sore! lol). Thanks so much. I think I'm on to something now!
I'm so happy to hear that! keep up your self care!
ive had this symptom for over an year now and visited doctors and therapists and your channel has been the most helpful thanks
I’m happy to hear that!