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Due to the train strikes we were unable to attend the Army v Navy rugby match at Twickenham so decided to record this episode instead. No guest this month just Colin and Kev discussing the possibility of using Cold War "stay behind" OPs prior to the Russian invasion in the current war in Ukraine. We also talk about the possible use of STA patrols in future peer on peer conflicts. For this episode we used two articles published on the Wavell Room website as part of the discussion, and also as a source of quotes, to illustrate our points. Both were written by a serving Gunner officer Captain Simon Middleton and can be found on the Wavell Room site called Rise of the rocket launcher: The end of the armoured division and Rise of the rocket launcher 2: Lessons from Ukraine.
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🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
01:15 🎯 The Russian army is heavily reliant on artillery, with twice the guns and rocket launchers of Ukraine. Artillery is still a crucial factor in modern warfare.
03:33 🚀 Drones (UAVs) are extensively used in the Ukrainian conflict for reconnaissance, targeting, and psychological operations. Their effectiveness relies on factors like weather, technology, and countermeasures.
10:15 🛡️ Stay Behind Ops during the Cold War involved surveillance and targeting of key enemy assets to disrupt their second echelon. In modern conflicts, the concept of Stay Behind Ops might still be applicable with updated technology and tactics.
15:33 🌐 Modern communication for Stay Behind Ops could include a mix of satellite, HF, UHF, and drones. A resilient, redundant communication system is essential when technology can be jammed or compromised.
20:11 🕵️ Stay Behind Ops in the Ukrainian conflict could have been effective in monitoring key targets and disrupting Russian operations. Modern surveillance and evasion techniques would play a crucial role in their success.
23:27 🎯 Special Observers are considered reliable and essential for finding high-value and high-payoff targets in modern warfare due to their low signature and surveillance skills in a degraded environment.
25:03 🛡️ Special stay-behind patrols have historical precedence and can serve as an integral part of targeting and intelligence gathering in conflicts, as proven by various units during World War II.
26:14 💡 The UK should consider the role of rocket divisions and special stay-behind patrols as key elements in its warfighting doctrine to address shortages in traditional artillery and infantry capabilities.
28:07 🌐 The use of civilian vehicles and platforms for special operations should be carefully considered depending on the environment and risk factors involved, especially in urban and contested areas like Ukraine.
35:19 💼 While technology and precision weapons have their place, the British Army needs to strike a balance and prepare for various scenarios, including the use of traditional artillery and mass armor in potential conflicts with adversaries like Russia and China.
45:02 🌐 Open-source intelligence can be valuable for certain purposes like Battlefield damage assessments or court evidence, but it lacks real-time accuracy and reliability for critical decision-making.
45:44 🛠️ Special Observer teams on the ground provide timely and accurate live feed, allowing for effective interrogation and decision-making, which is not possible with other open-source information.
46:11 🚩 Open-source intelligence may be subject to manipulation, false flag operations, and lack of verification, while Special Observer teams offer a higher level of authenticity and corroboration.
47:05 💡 Special Observer teams are a limited resource due to their rigorous selection and training, so smart deployment is crucial to fill specific gaps in intelligence and observation.
48:26 🎯 Utilizing various assets like reconnaissance platoons, recce regiments, and light cavalry regiments helps shape the battlefield and deploy resources effectively, but the commander's decision-making skills and experience play a vital role in utilizing these assets optimally.
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Thanks for that 👍
Excellent podcast. I am sure we will learn on many uses of clandestine/partisan and military OPs when this is over.
Thank you for the great feedback and listening.
Think the gunner officers idea sounds more like the kind of role SRR would take on in a total mobilisation war.
I agree. That was the point I was making about blurring of roles and whether STA patrols might be treading on others toes.
Thing is until relatively recently the Ukrainians lacked the depth fires.
Having said that they still managed to reportedly take out Bde and above commanders
Still need all arms mass of a division (3 of the same Bdes to allow rotation).
Boxer isn’t an IFV no but realistically that is what it will be used as. Either way it is completely outgunned.
Absolutely too many infantry cap badges (with too few personnel), decisions taken worldwide to reduce actual number of bayonet infantry soldiers mean they can hold less ground. I believe this is a mistake. Need less units but with more personnel.
Too much sentimental nonsense over infantry cap badge. Old officers in the shires going apoplectic when their old Bn with 30% undermanning is up for the chop. Corps of infantry?
@@unconventionalsoldierpodcast how to fix the British Army 👆
OSINT is absolutely essential, filtering it is the issue - Artificial intelligence??
AI will no doubt be a game changer in this and other areas.
Only thing about stay behind is that means you have to trade ground ….. NATO countries with a border with Russia will not want to give an inch
If Russia was to do a land grab on NATO territory, they will do what they have done in Ukraine. Grab, dig in massively and mine massively
They may not want to but might have to. Possibly to draw Ru forces into optimum killing areas or just trade space for time perhaps.