Like u said, Sga is hot, but this Jokic dude makin historical events, he just ridiculous, that make him considered amongs the great.. At this point its hard to not give it to jokic
Jokic is arguably having the best season ever by a player.. the highest offensive peak ever. SGA and Giannis are having great seasons.. but no one is near Jokic, he is in a league of his own!
@@DreamHoopz dude. how can someone having the greatest offensive peak in NBA history not win an MVP? You would rather hold him to a standard of "has to be 2nd seed, with x amount of wins or Shai gets the MVP" Ngl you had me until tht very statement, Why dont you hold Shai to high standards aswell? if you ask me, "Shai needs to have multiple 30 20 10 games or else jokic wins" sounds like you take greatness for granted.
@@wyotriumphrider Both guys are worth 30 wins. What is hard to understand? People seem to think OKC is way better than they are. They are only a .500 team without Shai. They are a 66-70 win team with him. You have to reward winning. That's why you play the game.
"Jokic greatest offensive player ever" Thank you. You got my sub for that. If we look at his scoring, passing and efficiency it's just crazy plus rebounding and else. The overall impact he has on a team is unbelievable.
Jokic's stats get even crazier when you filter for heaves. Hes the first player to shoot over 10 heaves (half court shots or further) in a season since Steph Curry in 2021. If you take away all his heaves, he's shooting almost 52% from three instead of 47%. And even crazier, because he's a big man and can easily tip-in layups that he misses, his Effective True Shooting Percentage is well over 70% (71%, last time I checked a month ago). If you take out all of his half court attempts, and the fact that he tips in most of his missed layups, his real True Shooting percentage is probably between 69-75% right now. Were literally looking at the most efficient scoring season in NBA History right now.
Jokic's game is so fun to watch. But unfortunately he's gonna be robbed of MVP again. Reminiscent of how Jordan lost two mvp season's, despite one being the second best season of all time and the other being the fifth best seasons of all time.
97 yes 93 no MJ just wasn't as good in 93 as 91 or 92 and Barkley transformed Phoenix. This is closer to 89. MJ and Magic were both deserving of being MVP but only one could win. Magic won 57, MJ won 47. Magic gets MVP. Jokic _is_ having a top 3 season ever but SGA is having a top 10-15 season himself.
JOKIC IS THE BEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME OVERALL, IN ITS TOTALITY! AND THE MVP IS AN INDIVIDUAL REWARD SO HE IS THE MVP EVEN IF DENVER IS IN THE LAST SPOT!!
@@mycroidalmycroidal I know, but who's gonna convince the biased media and the fans with voter's fatigue regarding him. He's my Mvp without a shadow of doubt.
@mycroidalmycroidal that's not how MVP works That's how Most Outstanding Player works but the NBA doesn't have that award. (Though they should honestly)
Very in depth and to the point analysis my brother! Well done. Now for Jokic what else can we say? Every year he is getting better and better. Every year he adds some serious moves to his bag. We are lucky to be in his era of dominance.
if you remember I asked you about this at the start of the season, Jokic being the best passer over Magic and Nash is a hot take too but he definitely has a case for both best passer and offensive player all time
In the top 10 per and bpm seasons lists, not only is Jokic already number one, but has multiple top 10 per and bpm seasons of all time and he is on pace to beat his record again. Sometimes I think he has discovered something about the game, that the others yet haven’t.
Jokic is the God of basketball. I can’t wait to see the young players coming up who have studied and idolized Jokic and attempt to take the game to the next level. Big shoes to fill because the big fella keeps leveling up seemingly every game. It’s simply incredible and so fun to watch.
and he's much better on defense than given credit. currently 4th in steals (a center hasn't been top 5 since David Robinson in '92) and leading the league in defensive BPM 4 consecutive seasons. he's not being a shotblocker, but neither was Rodman, Oakley, Laimbeer, Cowens, Unseld, Sikma and many other great defensive bigs.
He's still a neutral defender -- slightly positive when it matters -- but yes. Some people talk about him like he's bad which is idiotic. Rodman, Oakley, Laimbeer, Cowens and Unseld were all fantastic rim protectors even if they weren't shot blockers. Jokic is just a bad rim protector, period. We have the results. Jokic's defensive flaws -- rim protection, bad in drop, bad in space -- are very very real. But he does enough other good stuff -- intelligence, activity, hands, rebounding -- to claw back all of the value he loses (and then some)
@@michaelahurtPerfectly put. Too many people either massively downplay Jokic's defense or use his statistics to overcorrect. He's as you say a slightly positive defender, which for his insane offensive output, is good enough.
Christian is a NASTY transition finisher. When’s the last time we saw a guy so good specifically finishing on the break like that? Not talking about the Dwayne Wades and Russells, i mean a guy who’s really just a roleplayer who’s role is to piss off offensive players and run the break.. incredible glue guy/winning playmaker
Joker only needs to continue to produce like he has the last 4 years for another 4 and even the critics, disbelievers and naysayers will have to acknowledge that his Offensive prowess is unrivaled. His defense is another story. At a casual glance, it appears average - upon closer scrutiny, it stronger than it appears and not at all weak....just not elite level....it's a very small trade off or price to pay for his absurdly productive offense.
Do the statistics of how many shots they missed when passing Jokic, and you will get a headache as to how many triples Jokic could have had this season! Greetings from Serbia
As a Center it get easier when no one can really reach the ball at this height so it give him an extra time to look wihtout worrying about a steal. And cuz a center as to guard him there is no rim protector for the opponent team. Having a playmaker as a center is the ultimate cheat code
Thing is there is a real argument to be made that hes a top 5 player of all time. Some of his games can only be compared with the best of the 1960s. Most people have never seen such a good player in there lifetimes.
@@alistairbolden6340top 5 player? 😂jabbar,rusel,wilt,shaq,hakeem,moses and robinson all of them did more in their career,more than jokic did so far and they are higher than joker on all time centers list and u say he is top5 player🤣
@@ziginaigra The only one you named with stats that can compare is Wilt, and he was not as valued by his team as Joker is. Wilts best year was 1968, players back then were not payed like they are today, the sport was far less serious, less competitive so its very hard to really consider any of the guys who played in the long past as one of the greatest, it was a different game, that is the same for every sport. As for Shaq and most of the power forwards of the 90s, they relied entirely on size, as soon as Shaq was not able to dunk as well due to his age he was averaging 9 point 0 assist a game. Shaq was not a skilled player his team just made the most of his size. Shaq should not be anywhere close to the top 100, most current players are more skilled than he was in his prime. Almost all current players have more assists and better 3pt shooting % than Shaq.
@ im not talking about stats,robinson have 2 rings,rookie mvp,mvp,dpoy,rebounding champ,8x all defense,scoring champ,blocks champ..that puts him over jokic on all time centers list+u cant compare playes by stats from now and 30-40 y ago game/rules are so much different ,now its easier to play /score than ever+nice try on downplaying shaq😆he avg almost the same stats from 1993 to 2003😂
I remember when the media tried to debate this claim for James Harden. Problem I always had with that was Harden was an inefficient scorer and a turnover machine. Jokic really could be the greatest offensive player ever. Yes he does play in the most offense-friendly era. Can't argue against that.
There is a very good argument Jokic is the best scorer, best playmaker and best off ball player in the NBA I still think Magic, Curry, MJ and Nash are right there with him but Jokic is definitely the most well rounded of all the GOAT offensive player candidates. He can literally fit next to anyone.
@@michaelahurt Jokic can't even match Russell Westbrook's best season and you think he's the best offensive player of all time?! I swear you casuals only know what's fed to you
@michaelahurt you don't even know how to calculate offensive rating buddy, why do you say things you don't know anything about? The difference is Jokic has the teammates that hit their jumpers and the system to take advantage of sleeping defenders.... And the nuggets run a motion offense buddy, Jokic is not creating shots
NBA should give 2-3 MVPs each year. Would save a lot of unnecessary stupid conversations. This is a good video - I just thing Shai and Jok should both get MVPs both this year and last year (and Luka last year and Giannis this year). Why create all this bitterness for the fans of whoever doesn't win, when the players are all fantastic? It's a kind of uniquely stupid male-pattern obsession with "best" that makes these conversations drone on. Let's just appreciate greatness, and not split hairs!
I wanna see a gold/silver/bronze system, we keep getting these seasons where more than one guy makes history and it’s a shame not to give him something for it. Giannis posted the third-best PER for a season ever… in the same year that Jokic posted the very best.
Jokic is my fav player now, but best "ever"? I'm old enough to say that the best offensive player I've ever seen is Larry Legend. Even over MJ. Bird is in his own universe.
Whoever woke statistician put the heave at 66 should be fired. Simple math tells you its 94 minus 15 equals 79ft. If you want to subtract a foot or two because he might be slightly ahead of the foul line its still 77ft. Where did 66ft come from? Did sga's brother work the game?
I don't think that's the case at all. In fact I dare say that BB from the 90s would look utterly different had he played in that era, every team would have had to adjust there play style to not get destroyed. Every other team would have been looking for players that can hit 3s and bigs with elite passing skill. He would have done what Steph did to the league.
@@alistairbolden6340 no joker game would look different,he would play that just like any other center not like pg with ball in his hands nonstop+he couldnt guard centers they would kill him down low and he wouldnt play that many minutes,just like all other eu players in that time
Quick is Nikola Jokic your MVP rn!!! ⬇️
yes but sga winning is fine also
Its jokic and its not even close for me but after him is shai and giannis
Like u said, Sga is hot, but this Jokic dude makin historical events, he just ridiculous, that make him considered amongs the great..
At this point its hard to not give it to jokic
Yes
Jokic is arguably having the best season ever by a player.. the highest offensive peak ever.
SGA and Giannis are having great seasons.. but no one is near Jokic, he is in a league of his own!
I love SGA's game. But there's a big gap between his and Jok's value. Jus' sayin' 🤷♀️
Love that we can still appreciate both!
💯💯💯💯💯
@@DreamHoopz dude. how can someone having the greatest offensive peak in NBA history not win an MVP? You would rather hold him to a standard of "has to be 2nd seed, with x amount of wins or Shai gets the MVP" Ngl you had me until tht very statement, Why dont you hold Shai to high standards aswell? if you ask me, "Shai needs to have multiple 30 20 10 games or else jokic wins" sounds like you take greatness for granted.
@@GelatoBoii That "logic" that favors Shai over Jokic breaks my brain.
@@wyotriumphrider Both guys are worth 30 wins. What is hard to understand?
People seem to think OKC is way better than they are. They are only a .500 team without Shai. They are a 66-70 win team with him.
You have to reward winning. That's why you play the game.
it's incredible that SGA is even in the same conversation as Jok for MVP, no disrespect to SGA but Jok is making history
"Jokic greatest offensive player ever" Thank you. You got my sub for that.
If we look at his scoring, passing and efficiency it's just crazy plus rebounding and else. The overall impact he has on a team is unbelievable.
It got to a point I can’t deny what I’m seeing on the film
Jokic's stats get even crazier when you filter for heaves. Hes the first player to shoot over 10 heaves (half court shots or further) in a season since Steph Curry in 2021. If you take away all his heaves, he's shooting almost 52% from three instead of 47%. And even crazier, because he's a big man and can easily tip-in layups that he misses, his Effective True Shooting Percentage is well over 70% (71%, last time I checked a month ago).
If you take out all of his half court attempts, and the fact that he tips in most of his missed layups, his real True Shooting percentage is probably between 69-75% right now. Were literally looking at the most efficient scoring season in NBA History right now.
Insane the fact that he’s even 2-12 on the season on those is mind boggling
@@DreamHoopz 2-12 on heaves?
@@jaspionccv9426 yeah, the one against the hawks wasn't considered a heave cuz he was over half court, but it should be, so 3-13
The funny thing is he's gonna double up that Steph number. We're HALFWAY through the season and he's about to pass Stephs heave count. Dude is WILD 😂
Joker is the definition of *most valuable player to ever step on the hardwood* He is the MVP 100%
His nonchalance attitude makes his remarkable exploits look so easy and people hate it.
Jokic is the MVP right now. all this hate is crazy
I luvv when Jokic goes down Low and pops it out to a 3pt guy wide Open and the guy Misses and Jokic gets a rebound LayUp,.lol
All the Time : )
Jokic's game is so fun to watch. But unfortunately he's gonna be robbed of MVP again.
Reminiscent of how Jordan lost two mvp season's, despite one being the second best season of all time and the other being the fifth best seasons of all time.
Hopefully that doesn’t happened
97 yes 93 no
MJ just wasn't as good in 93 as 91 or 92 and Barkley transformed Phoenix.
This is closer to 89. MJ and Magic were both deserving of being MVP but only one could win. Magic won 57, MJ won 47. Magic gets MVP.
Jokic _is_ having a top 3 season ever but SGA is having a top 10-15 season himself.
JOKIC IS THE BEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME OVERALL, IN ITS TOTALITY! AND THE MVP IS AN INDIVIDUAL REWARD SO HE IS THE MVP EVEN IF DENVER IS IN THE LAST SPOT!!
@@mycroidalmycroidal I know, but who's gonna convince the biased media and the fans with voter's fatigue regarding him.
He's my Mvp without a shadow of doubt.
@mycroidalmycroidal that's not how MVP works
That's how Most Outstanding Player works but the NBA doesn't have that award. (Though they should honestly)
Very in depth and to the point analysis my brother! Well done.
Now for Jokic what else can we say? Every year he is getting better and better. Every year he adds some serious moves to his bag. We are lucky to be in his era of dominance.
@@dimitris_panteliadistruly
if you remember I asked you about this at the start of the season, Jokic being the best passer over Magic and Nash is a hot take too but he definitely has a case for both best passer and offensive player all time
Yeah I’m finally at that point it’s gets to a point where
The only of the 4 major sport without shutouts so yes scoring/offense is pretty important
Very!
Advanced stats put jokic 10% better than anyone else in the league. At his current pace he would have the highest per and bpm for a season in history.
Insanity
In the top 10 per and bpm seasons lists, not only is Jokic already number one, but has multiple top 10 per and bpm seasons of all time and he is on pace to beat his record again. Sometimes I think he has discovered something about the game, that the others yet haven’t.
Jokic is the God of basketball. I can’t wait to see the young players coming up who have studied and idolized Jokic and attempt to take the game to the next level. Big shoes to fill because the big fella keeps leveling up seemingly every game. It’s simply incredible and so fun to watch.
and he's much better on defense than given credit. currently 4th in steals (a center hasn't been top 5 since David Robinson in '92) and leading the league in defensive BPM 4 consecutive seasons.
he's not being a shotblocker, but neither was Rodman, Oakley, Laimbeer, Cowens, Unseld, Sikma and many other great defensive bigs.
That's a great point, that defensive impact is overlooked.
He's still a neutral defender -- slightly positive when it matters -- but yes. Some people talk about him like he's bad which is idiotic.
Rodman, Oakley, Laimbeer, Cowens and Unseld were all fantastic rim protectors even if they weren't shot blockers. Jokic is just a bad rim protector, period. We have the results.
Jokic's defensive flaws -- rim protection, bad in drop, bad in space -- are very very real. But he does enough other good stuff -- intelligence, activity, hands, rebounding -- to claw back all of the value he loses (and then some)
@@michaelahurtPerfectly put. Too many people either massively downplay Jokic's defense or use his statistics to overcorrect. He's as you say a slightly positive defender, which for his insane offensive output, is good enough.
Shai is very very good, but Nikola is 5 levels above everyone else.
Christian is a NASTY transition finisher. When’s the last time we saw a guy so good specifically finishing on the break like that? Not talking about the Dwayne Wades and Russells, i mean a guy who’s really just a roleplayer who’s role is to piss off offensive players and run the break.. incredible glue guy/winning playmaker
Joker only needs to continue to produce like he has the last 4 years for another 4 and even the critics, disbelievers and naysayers will have to acknowledge that his Offensive prowess is unrivaled. His defense is another story. At a casual glance, it appears average - upon closer scrutiny, it stronger than it appears and not at all weak....just not elite level....it's a very small trade off or price to pay for his absurdly productive offense.
Do the statistics of how many shots they missed when passing Jokic, and you will get a headache as to how many triples Jokic could have had this season! Greetings from Serbia
Right? It's insane and welcome!
He didn't even TRY to make that 66 ft 3 pointer,.
Beyond SCARY,..It's like he's PLAYING DOWN to the League ,.Just Woww!~
Definitely mVP for 5 years straight now
Was closer to 80ft, 94 minus 15 is 79.
As a Center it get easier when no one can really reach the ball at this height so it give him an extra time to look wihtout worrying about a steal. And cuz a center as to guard him there is no rim protector for the opponent team. Having a playmaker as a center is the ultimate cheat code
Really is
1:39 I like to call that thing a "never look pass" because c'mon, that's not a no look
Aye lowkey you right 😂
and jokic dont even care about being mvp. he just wants to go home during break be with family and his horses.
Can’t fault a man for that
Passing makes 2 people happy and jokic likes to make people happy
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Great video.
Great mic volume and clarity. Subbed
Glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate it brother
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just give Joker the MVP of the Decade award and then you can give the annual MVP to the best who isn’t Joker. Lol
Same for Wemby for DPOY
😂
2:55 not sure how many people know this but jokic actually grew up playing water polo , i lie to you not😂
I was looking to see if someone peeped 😭
You talk signal. Instant subscribe. All success to you moving forward my guy. Great analysis and IQ all things basketball
That’s what I’m here for, thanks for the support!
pretty amazing...just imagine if he gets his free throw % up! 😮
Jokic is like a circus bear who comes out on a unicycle and proceeds to put all other circus performers to shame
This one got it
@DreamHoopz My dude 🙏
Jokic the GOAT ！Period.
Jokic is the MVP. SGA is playing amazing and who can be mad if he gets it but Jokic is playing all time level!
Look at my man dream hooping
Jokic is playin with JV squad
Great analist.
Appreciate it
jokic is best click bait atm on youtube so every day someone have jokic video😂
Thing is there is a real argument to be made that hes a top 5 player of all time. Some of his games can only be compared with the best of the 1960s. Most people have never seen such a good player in there lifetimes.
@@alistairbolden6340top 5 player? 😂jabbar,rusel,wilt,shaq,hakeem,moses and robinson all of them did more in their career,more than jokic did so far and they are higher than joker on all time centers list and u say he is top5 player🤣
@@ziginaigra The only one you named with stats that can compare is Wilt, and he was not as valued by his team as Joker is. Wilts best year was 1968, players back then were not payed like they are today, the sport was far less serious, less competitive so its very hard to really consider any of the guys who played in the long past as one of the greatest, it was a different game, that is the same for every sport. As for Shaq and most of the power forwards of the 90s, they relied entirely on size, as soon as Shaq was not able to dunk as well due to his age he was averaging 9 point 0 assist a game. Shaq was not a skilled player his team just made the most of his size. Shaq should not be anywhere close to the top 100, most current players are more skilled than he was in his prime. Almost all current players have more assists and better 3pt shooting % than Shaq.
@ im not talking about stats,robinson have 2 rings,rookie mvp,mvp,dpoy,rebounding champ,8x all defense,scoring champ,blocks champ..that puts him over jokic on all time centers list+u cant compare playes by stats from now and 30-40 y ago game/rules are so much different ,now its easier to play /score than ever+nice try on downplaying shaq😆he avg almost the same stats from 1993 to 2003😂
Most people don't realize how special he is! He's NEO, he's on his path to the GOAT status 💪 Nikola THE ONE AND ONLY REAL MVP Jokić
Mhmmmmmk
It is going to end someday....and it'll never be the same again
That’s why you gotta enjoy as much as you can now
Oh oh 😮
Best words to describe Jokić!
You could a better montage with the Jokic plays from season start than some player whole carrer.
most.
U r damn right man!
Yessir!
I remember when the media tried to debate this claim for James Harden. Problem I always had with that was Harden was an inefficient scorer and a turnover machine.
Jokic really could be the greatest offensive player ever. Yes he does play in the most offense-friendly era. Can't argue against that.
There use to also be this problem of "playoff Harden"
He seems to have gotten that tho'..
💪🥰👍 ❤ from Ser bija🙋
Appreciate the love brother 💪
Nikola Jokic is him. Best player in the world.
Love to see it
A lot of Americans pronounce his name wrong, like NikOla the accent on the "O" its nIkola the point should be on the "I"
Just btw, if someone cares
Thanks for letting me know
Truth
There is a very good argument Jokic is the best scorer, best playmaker and best off ball player in the NBA
I still think Magic, Curry, MJ and Nash are right there with him but Jokic is definitely the most well rounded of all the GOAT offensive player candidates.
He can literally fit next to anyone.
Best offensive player of all time I’m ready to say it
@@michaelahurt Jokic can't even match Russell Westbrook's best season and you think he's the best offensive player of all time?! I swear you casuals only know what's fed to you
@hakeemolajuwon4352 Russell Westbrook's best season he had a 112 offensive rating and his team was 16th in offense
@michaelahurt you don't even know how to calculate offensive rating buddy, why do you say things you don't know anything about? The difference is Jokic has the teammates that hit their jumpers and the system to take advantage of sleeping defenders.... And the nuggets run a motion offense buddy, Jokic is not creating shots
Get Russell a ring.
Streets need it
NBA should give 2-3 MVPs each year. Would save a lot of unnecessary stupid conversations. This is a good video - I just thing Shai and Jok should both get MVPs both this year and last year (and Luka last year and Giannis this year). Why create all this bitterness for the fans of whoever doesn't win, when the players are all fantastic? It's a kind of uniquely stupid male-pattern obsession with "best" that makes these conversations drone on. Let's just appreciate greatness, and not split hairs!
There shouldn't be an award if there's a second place to it, what's the point of having the runner up if there's just the runner up
What bitterness..? I cannot see the value in your point. Your either the MVP, runner up.....third place...or go home.
Interesting take you talking about something similar to what Baseball does?
I wanna see a gold/silver/bronze system, we keep getting these seasons where more than one guy makes history and it’s a shame not to give him something for it. Giannis posted the third-best PER for a season ever… in the same year that Jokic posted the very best.
Jokic is my fav player now, but best "ever"? I'm old enough to say that the best offensive player I've ever seen is Larry Legend. Even over MJ. Bird is in his own universe.
Interesting Bird was him for his time
@DreamHoopz Bird is a legend.
MVP4..But he will get robbed. Again.
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Looks like Jokić edits reality like you have edited this video. 😅
Might be on to something there 👀
LeBron is a joke
Nikola is the Joker
Whoever woke statistician put the heave at 66 should be fired. Simple math tells you its 94 minus 15 equals 79ft. If you want to subtract a foot or two because he might be slightly ahead of the foul line its still 77ft. Where did 66ft come from? Did sga's brother work the game?
Yeah 66 ft a lie it’s farther
your goat would have 0 mvps and 0 rings if he play in 90s😂
I don't think that's the case at all. In fact I dare say that BB from the 90s would look utterly different had he played in that era, every team would have had to adjust there play style to not get destroyed. Every other team would have been looking for players that can hit 3s and bigs with elite passing skill. He would have done what Steph did to the league.
@@alistairbolden6340 no joker game would look different,he would play that just like any other center not like pg with ball in his hands nonstop+he couldnt guard centers they would kill him down low and he wouldnt play that many minutes,just like all other eu players in that time
НАЈБОЉИ АЛИ МУ НЕЋЕ ДАТИ MVP МОРА ДОБИТИ ЦРНИ ИГРАЧ НАЖАЛОСТ АЛИ ЈЕ ТАКО ***
The greatest ever