NYM@CIN: Benches clear after Davis and Knight tangle
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2013
- 7/22/86: Eric Davis and Ray Knight get tangled up after a steal attempt at third, causing both benches to clear
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Eric Davis was one of my favs as a kid. Also RIP Gary Carter
Same. I had evert Eric Davis card in my collection. Still have them. Unfortunately they aren't very valuable anymore
Mine too, but Davis ran into the wrong dude
Eric Davis was my favorite
Kevin Mitchell said Knight hit Davis so hard his mouthpiece flew out 😂😂
Ray Knight was a former golden gloves boxing champion before being the MVP of the 1986 world series
Well, Mitchell was a liar, along with a rapist, a thug, and just an all-around piece of sh1t, so whatever he says I would take with a grain of salt. Meanwhile, big man Knight started the whole thing, and then waited until the ump was holding Davis before throwing a punch, so he fits firmly into the p@ssy group.
"Kevin Mitchell... There's another guy you don't wanna fool around with"🤣🤣
The game got weirder. With Ray Knight and Kevin Mitchell ejected for fighting and Darryl Strawberry ejected earlier for arguing balls and strikes, the Mets put Gary Carter at third, Ed Hearn at catcher, and had pitchers Roger McDowell and Jesse Orosco rotate between left field, pitcher, and right field. Yes, that is allowed. Lenny Dykstra in center had to cover the whole outfield. But the Mets won.
NJGuy1973 game should have ended but Dave Parker dropped the last out. Blew a Franco save. Crazy 1986 game
I remember watching this with my dad. Insanity - great memories!!!
Eric Davis Pin Ran For Player/Manager All-Time Hit King Pete Rose (4,256 Career Hits Most All-Time)
@@teurypotter1218 I was about to mention that, that nobody remembers Pete putting himself in as a pinch hitter, getting a single, and that started all of this.
Well, Orosco and McDowell weren't in the outfield at the same time. One of them was pitching, the other was in RF or LF (McDowell played both RF and LF, Orosco played only RF). Mookie Wilson was the other outfielder, alternating between RF and LF, so Dykstra didn't have to cover everything. And in fact, Orosco had a putout in RF.
This is the game where George Foster sat in the dugout during the brawl...when asked afterwards by the press why he didn’t join his teammates, he remarked, “it would be bad for the young fans to see me fight out there”. translation:...”Johnson benched me for Kevin Mitchell so screw them”...two days later, Foster was waived...
Yep. Or he didn't want to fight his old team. Or both. But after being waived he said it was because of race, blaming Davey. Which made zero sense he was replaced with Mitchell. The Mets still gave him a WS ring I believe. Shouldn't have though.
he got 3/4 share.
Had Davis not been so oft injured he'd be a legend
I think he badly bruised or punctured his liver on a diving catch help me if im not on point
@@christopheryasus3666 that does ring a bell. I know he had a lacerated liver or intestine I just didn't recall how. He wasn't the same after that
Believe that happened during the '90 world series iirc
In 1986 he was on pace for 98 steals in a 162 game season. In 1987 he was on pace for over 46 home runs in a 162 game season. Eric Davis was amazing.
here in cincy, he pretty much still is
I remember watching this great game. The Reds had a 3-1 lead with two out in the ninth, when Dave Parker dropped an easy fly ball, allowing the tying runs to score. The Mets won it in the 16th on a 3-run homer by Howard Johnson, 6-3.
If Dave Parker Would Have Caught That Ball? The Game Would Have Been Over And The Fight Would Have Never Happened.
Probably coked before the game. Parker would be in the Hall of Fame but what cocaine did to his career.
14th* inning but that. Easy correction for me seeing this 30 for 30 but your memory is spot on man
Pete Rose was manager of the Reds at the time, and Bud Harrelson was the Mets' third base coach. I wonder if they reminisced about the '73 NLCS. :)
Yeah, Pete was twice his size and took him down with a body slam.
These were two teams that loved to fight back in the 80's and early 90's. And Ray Knight could definitely take care of himself. But Davis wasn't backing down at all. Good skirmish here.
Back when players were all tough, hard nosed guys and not a bunch of drama queens
Ray Knight only acted tough when the other player was not expecting it remember when Dave Parker challenged him the next time they met at shea stadium. Knight said I would never mess with the Cobra.
Best part is when Davey brought in Roger and Jesse sending Pete Rose into the dugout to go through his MLB rule-book. Priceless Great Post +1
One of the best baseball games I ever watched (I was 14 & still remember)
Yup. I was the same age.
The 1986 Mets!!! One of the greatest Mets teams ever!
The greatest baseball team EVER!!!!!!!!!!!
That was the BIG RED MACHINE of the 70s pal @@charlierobles316
@@Rhezoloution The Big Red Machine won 108 games but so did the 1986 Mets. To this day the Mets are still the last NL team to win 108 games.
THE GREATEST METS TEAM EVER U CHOOCH
@@Rhezoloution bullshit,the 1998 Yankees was the greatest team ever
Man, Davis has a good chin..Knight suckered punched him right in the face and Davis didnt really even flinch
"I'll tell you one thing you're barking up the wrong tree when you go after Ray Knight..." 😂
For those of us who were around at the time to enjoy those mid 80s teams, this was a perfect example of who they were. Spunky, cocky, arrogant, gamers, grinders, and yes, fighters.
Stuff like our guys in the last few years leading the league in hit by pitches, wouldn’t have gone unanswered back in those days.
Today 6/9/2019 I still miss the 86`Mets. They were cocky, arrogant, self-sure but I loved them 100% Thank you Davey Johnson controlling this rebel gang at least a couple yrs. Carter and Hernandez were great captains. Johnson did it.
Ten years later (in 1996), Ray Knight would become Eric Davis's manager in Cincinnati.
I was watching this live with my nephews, back in the day. One of those good memories, when we all jumped off the couch, yelling and screaming at the TV. Knight clocked Davis pretty good, LOLOL.
Pete Rose as a peacemaker!?!? He probably told Davis to hold off on fighting Knight until he could place a bet on him
LMAO
King T Yomama lmaoooooooo
Hysterical
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
The good old days.
In Davis’ defense, he did absolutely NOTHING wrong! It was a good clean slide into 3rd, and all he was doing was trying to plead his case of being safe.. He even turned his back to Knight as to not be in his face, and Knight pushed him for no reason .. Douche move
86 was a magical summer
Daaang! I remember watching this live on tv in my youth! How quickly did dirtball ray start straight up boxing out there? Hahahaha. 2 players i truly admired while growing up. Just so good
Ray was actually an amateur boxer before baseball. No joke.
Baseball is indeed a magical if not mythical game.
Fav part is Kevin Mitchell running in dragging 3 Reds players with him haha
Why is 80s and 90s baseball far more superior then baseball today? Eric Davis, Pete Rose, Kevin Mitchell, Darryl Strawberry Dave Parker, Lenny Dykstra & Gary Carter all in the same game. That's' why. They don't have that many super stars today in 1 league let alone 1 game!
because you were likely a kid when those guys were playing. Kids all see their heroes this way...
Robert Flynn Also, this was when juicing was rampant in the game. Everyone just seemed a tick better
Because they gave a damn. The sport wasn't watered down. There were amazing rivalries and teams legitimately hated each other.
love Gary Carter excellent person.
Eric Gregg was a freakin unit.
"Denny is a karate master." Lol!
yatta025 Denny was a karate expert. My ass
He was throwing punches on Mitchelll while two other guys were trying to hold Mitchelll down. Whether Denny was a karate expert or not, he apparently took advantage of the help. got to land blues Mitchelll was being held down. I’m sure some of the guys on that Reds team knew that Mitchelll was one of the guys on that team they needed to contain in a brawl.
Lifelong Mets fan here but I always loved Davis as a player. Knight was not to be fucked with but he is lucky the ump grabbed Davis" right arm at the moment he was going to throw a bomb. Things may have unfolded differently for Ray.
that right hand that ray knight threw was picture perfect
Picture perfect sucker punch that didn't even phase Davis. It was a weak feeble punch.
I miss that Mets team!!!!! The most hated team in the late 80's because they was the best!!!!!!
The were also cocky and arrogant. Not all of them. Not Gary Carter or Roger McDowell.
@@PrinceTron1 Ironically Gary Carter, the one guy on the team who didn't do drugs, dies first. Go figure.
@@LEETCH_2 I would ask myself how could a good guy like Gary Carter join a bunch of bad, cocky and arrogant guys? Lol!
Back when fights were true fights!
Eric Davis shouldn't have been ejected from this game. Ray Knight was a real h** for that move.
Man I remember this like it was yesterday. Seems impossible it was almost 33 years ago.
“If you’re gonna brawl, you’d better give it all”
"You're barking up the wrong tree when you go after Ray Knight"...even the Reds own announcer knows that you don't fuck with the Mets, LOL! :)
That's bull shit! Imagine Milton Bradly doing something like that. Everyone would say he's crazy but Ray Knight oh he's tough. More like a sucker punching, bush league slime ball coward.
John John Ray Knight is a complete bitch who took a cheap shot when Davis was wrapped up by the umpire. Fuck Ray Knight.
Earth Ruler Ray Knight was a golden gloves boxer. The rest of Met's were sissies.
jim bo That's great Jim but this isn't a boxing ring.
Yeah but I hate Ray Knight too. I didn't watch a lot of Red's games the year or two he managed them.
0:43 Mets Kevin Mitchell was probably like... ‘ You know a rumble ain’t a rumble without me ! “ ( Matt Dillon from the movie The Outsiders )
Yeah, Strawberry said Mitchell was the only man he was ever scared of.
@@Nestor123057 : Yeah, I guess he had that gang association background. See in the video to that a couple of Reds were holding him down as the Reds player is throwing punches onto Mitchelll when he was on the ground. Three on one or whatever it was is not fair, but I guess in a rumble anything goes.
Gary Carter with the solid tackle. Dude could have played on special teams for the Jets in the off season.
He spent too much time in between innings curling his hair.
Back in the day. Just look at the roster of players on both teams. Compare that to todays talent, The Mets would become WS champs and the Reds started their string of 2nd place finishes in a great NL West div. That Reds team today would dominate the central hands down.
"Danny is a karate expert" saying that now doesn't really sound that intimidating
It actually sounded kind of stupid, especially when he's rolling on the ground with Kevin Mitchell.
erick davis 40-40 caliber player
He came close once in 1987, that was the only year he even got 30/30
30/50, actually. He never played more than 135 games, I think, but hit as many as 37 home runs and stole as many as 80 bases in a season.
@@attaboi8110 and 50 the next
That right hand that Knight thru did nothing... Davis would have kicked his old ass...
FINALLY, somebody sees what I see....everybody saying ray is a golden gloves bad ass, but he punched davis right in the face and eric didnt even flinch...Davis must have a world class chin if ray was really a bad ass
@@benashworth2278 the golden glove thing is probably overexagerrated. kights baseball numbers probably reflect how tough he was. he had 3 serviceable years
Imagine getting shoved for no reason and then punched in the face, and then getting thrown out.
I love these fights from when every guy out there had done about four eight-balls.
Ray Knight was known to handle his dukes around baseball. He knew how to fight and Kevin Mitchell knew how to fight.
Jack smith for real. He got two punches in before Davis even knew it
Ray Knight was a Golden Gloves boxer.
@@cfresh44 that's what happens when you sucker punch someone.
@@robdobson5419 That was the word around the office after it happened. It was a sucker punch.
Classic . Love it
Ray Knight, golden gloves boxer. Eric Davis, punching bag.
john manning- there's no way to validate that knight was a golden gloves boxer. not much elite boxing going on in georgia where he's from
What a travesty to eject Eric Davis. You're missing a great game, Blue!
He started it 🤷♂️
Honestly...HILARIOUS lol...wish I could've saw some mets games in the 80s (84 baby)
NeoNitty You didnt miss much. They had great talent but most of them were coked up half the time
'86 was a fun year. I probably attended 30 games at Shea and a dozen road games. Went to Pittsburgh. Cincy, Montreal and Philly. Back then you could scalp a ticket in Pittsburgh for 5 bucks and sit where you wanted. Same went for Montreal.
Does anybody have the Mets-Pirates brawl from that year when Kevin Mitchell had Sammy Khalifa in a cobra clutch??
It seems they were always fighting that year.
I had not watched this in years. Laughable how this was commented live and has been re-told. Davis was not the aggressor in this whatsoever and had no reason to be ejected. And I like how they gave the full business to Mitchell. That guy was pure awful.
To Tell you you'd be barking up the wrong tree if you went after Ray Knight back then
That Mr. Lopez is an arm puncher. 👨🏾🥊
Then HoJo hit a three run shot in extras to win it for the Mets. Clutch!
After Dave Parker dropped the final out in the 9th.
The end of the video. Rose and Davis walking together. Two guys who should be in the Hall of Fame.
Rose shouldn't have been a degenerate gambler and liar and violated the rule that led to a lifetime ban. Davis had HOF talent, but nowhere near HOF career.
karate expert lol. that comes in handy in a pile of people
dave parker also started a fight with knight.
A very underrated fight. My man Davis got suckerpunched and the ensuing fight was ugly.
They were facing each other, how is that a sucker punch?
One brawl between 2 people turns into the Royal Rumble
Ray knight is my grandpa
Well that escalated quickly.
That Mets team was as tough as nails. Teams like this don’t exist today, too bad the game has gone soft.
Ray Knight lands a good uppercut on Milner as well. Knight was a boxer who knew how to throw hands.
Yeah, he knew how to hit people who were being held.
Ray Knight was about to get his teeth knocked out, he got saved by the ump.
Don't fuck with Kevin Mitchell. Dude was nuts.
I don’t understand why that happened. The contact seemed very minimal before punches started being thrown.
The '86 Mets....the '85 Bears. Two dynasties that never were.
the 86 mets loved a good fight or two or three or four among other things...but they didnt take no crap..got to admire that
Karate expert lmao
Ray Knight was a punk. Eric had swag and class.
Davis had swag but no class.
Punk, That was not a cheap shot, Davis pushed first.
This Mets team was one ☝🏾 bunch tough SOB’s
1:25 *WHAT* the hell was Walker (#20) doing?!? *eyeroll*
Mets were the bullies in 1986....thats why they won the world series
Jerk! That is NOT why they won! I hate know-it-alls when really they don't know anything at all!
Keith Clark im 4ever a phillies fan to the core... but strawberry is my fav player of all my 43 years of watching baseball. Those mid 80s mets teams i rooted for with my heart in my throat! Such a scrappy team. Mookie wilson, hojo, mcreynolds, carter, keith, knight wally backman, lenny, tim tueffel, doc, that bullpen, and the man strawberry, what a roster of scrappers!!
Kevin Mitchell!!!
The 86 Mets were not to be fucked with
Knight feared no man
Correction: he feared no man who was being held.
Knight punched him for no reason. It was wrong to punish Davis for a clean slide. Knight should have suffered a multigame suspension for throwing first punch.
my '86 mets!. :-)
Eric Davis rules all!
Willie Farr your mom and father are losers for breeding and hatching you.
27 HR 80 SB
Now thats crazy
Eric Davis was going to win the triple crown and be the next Aron, Hayes and Ruth rolled into one
He definitely came off the bag for a second though. 😂😂
That’s because Ray Knight pushed Davis off of the bag…
Punk move by Knight trying to shove Davis off the bag.
The funny thing is Knight was Davis' manager in 1996. There was no love lost between the two during that season either.
Escobar Salvador that's part of why Davis had an awesome comeback season, but, Knight was able to stonewall any efforts for a contract extension for Davis. Knight may be my least favorite man to wear a Reds uniform. I'm saying this as a lifelong Reds fan.
Gregory Blosser- Not Pete Rose who disgraced the organization and all of MLB? Not Marge Schott who was a racist?
@@TL2354 Pete Rose was a baller rather or not he betting on games
Yikes, anyone see ray knight almost pull the ball out and straight up fire it at eric during that replay?! Commentator says hes tryna get rid of the ball and glove to fight, but it looked more like that ball was grabbed to wing it out like an angry kid throwing a nintendo controller at the tv when angry hahaha. Jeesh. That would have been horrible
God bless 86 Mets
The on the field meltdowns of Ray Lopez! 👊🏻
And the whole world of baseball got all worked up last week when Puig threw a couple of 13 year old girl open-handed slaps. This nation has fallen mightily since these days.
Ray Knight such a dirty play
winners need some dirty guys to make it work out!
Hahahaa...look at Pete Rose.....he’s like, “where’s Buddy?, where’s Buddy?”...lol
Pete might have been taking bets on the fight.
What ever happened to an assault and battery?
Is this the fight that resulted in the Mets releasing George Foster because he didn’t participate?
Hated Eric Davis as a reds... Loved his as a Dodger.
El tercera base atacó porque, obviamente, es un knight...
Knight is a complete tool for this; instigates the whole thing by not releasing the base after the safe call and then punches a guy whose arms were being held, real tough guy stuff.
No ya don't know the back round during the regular season n plus he said something to him but his lip movement
Gary Carter was tough also in his Montreal days. He had some battles with John Stearns who broke Dave Parker's jaw.
John Stearns was an all-Big Eight defensive back at Colorado. They didn't call him "Bad Dude" for nothing. He was also a really good catcher who got overshadowed by Bench, Carter, Simmons, et al.
say what you want... ray knight have some quick hands
That was a normal slide, what was knight even mad about
I'm a huge NY Mets fan, and love Ray Knight's demeanor, hustle & attitude as a player but I'm sorry, Knight was totally in the wrong on this one. Eric Davis is the baserunner and has every right to occupy the bag in the most efficient, reasonable manner possible in order to prevent himself from getting tagged out, which he did. Davis was in no way being overly aggressive in trying to keep his balance and not lose his position on the bag, and it was knight who then tried to overly posture his stance and needlessly bumping Davis once he got his balance occupying 3rd base.
Damn. Kevin Mitchell was lightin' someone up and basically got mobbed.
Yeah, he got jumped from behind. I didn't like that. Been there. Done that.
Knight was in the wrong. He tried to push Davis off the bag and when Davis pushed back he punched. Knight is sad.
Gaetana Nelson the dude who wins the fight is never in the wrong
Knight kicked his ass
thomas walsh Yes he did, Knight did try to push him off the bag, but thats playing clean hard baseball. Davis came up pushing knight and grabbing his shirt and running his mouth, So Knight pop his ass. but davis got held up by carter, who knows? I was for Ray Knight, some of my kin got some autographs from him when he played for the Astros, They said he was a good ole country boy.