26:18 The detectorist who found the gold coin is my Dad :D I remember him calling home about it and he could barely speak. Still love this episode! Thanks for uploading!
+Sarah Fulloway Congratultions to your dad! i also have had the pleasure of finding the sane coin as your dad.. James 1st Quarter Laurel... found myself shouting at the tv when they first found it saying its a quarter laurel... not what they where initially saying it was! great feeling of digging your hole and pulling out a gold hammered coin! ive been hooked ever since.
I know viewership was declining by Season 17 but the sites, the investigations, the discoveries, the personalities are still all top notch. Still very cool!
Been watching this show since the start. It’s one of my favourites. You’ve done a great service to humanity by putting this up here. I salute you, sir!
I have only recently discovered this program. What a fantastic vehicle to educate people on history, better than any book or course. The Time Team brought history to life, getting their hands dirty and informing the world. Thank you for sharing your passion with not just those in Britain but around the world.
Mr. John, I call him " The Key Man", because he always uses his car key to point out things with!! This show is wonderful. I've been watching a least one video every day now for about two weeks now, and have enjoyed every second of them all!!! I love all of the people in these videos and totally respect them and what they all have to say! I just love it! great bunch of people here. just sayin
As another American, I totally agree. Except for the southwest and their beautiful cliff dwellings, there isn't much American archaeology of interest to me. It seems to be all clay pipes and medicine bottles.
Stewart is fantastic... at first glance, all the peering around make it look like he's lost. Don't be fooled... you can hear the gears turning as he maps it out in his mind.
An amazing episode. I love Phil's reaction when he shot the gun & then the canon ball. What an amazing history & dig. I love this show, each episode is very educational. Great job to all involved in making this episode !! It would be great if we could see these episodes on American TV. 😃
we had Time Team come to America. I love my country, but would much rather see the history of Britain....it's just way more interesting, cause it's so much older than America's short history. Britain is much more beautiful.
Susan Simpson, the history and archaeology of the Americas didnt start with the formation of ur country, there were ppl living there for 1000s of years, b4 Vikings first discovered North America (Vinland), b4 Europeans started settling in the Americas. Dont u want to know about the lives and history of those, who came b4 u?
The problem with the Americas is that very little of the stuff is durable, stone, etc. It mostly was like say Neanderthal Europe. South America started building in stone in CE, and the mound builders built in colossal earth structure but pretty much no durable metal. So there simply are no remains to find much, like the Neanderthal times. Also the problem with no discernible writing to record things.
No I haven't been there. The point is you can hardly go one mile without finding something of a durable nature in Europe but, you can probably go a hundred miles or more in the Americas and still not find anything. The 'remains' just aren't present in the same quantity, although they are here in places. Does serpent mound have stone walls in some sort of pattern with coins and pottery shards around to be found? Perhaps some but not like Europe. What we have was more ephemeral and didn't last, other then in a few locations, not that it didn't exist at one time. Also the Americas just weren't as heavily settled/populated which is what made it so attractive to the Europeans who found it. There was agriculture here but not as extensive as Europe, until the Europeans came the Americas were more like the time of the Neanderthals in Europe. Sad, but just very little archeology (NOT none) to be found here until the Europeans and their metal.
So are you saying that the archeology findings are just as rich in the Americas as in Europe? If so how come we don't have as rich findings in museums as there? The civilization was here, yes, agreed, just not as much hard surviving "things" as there. It's sad but true, they have things 'everywhere' as far back as say 5 or 6 thousand years ago, those thing are here, just far between. It's a pity but it exists. Maybe in the future methods will exist to find the 'things' we can't find now. European archeologist come here and are amazed at how picky we are about every little grain we dig out.
I'm a Yank and I love these shows. I wish they had aired here. But the fact that I can watch all of em on here is amazing. Phil is my absolute favorite. He cracks me up.
A thought crossed my mind while watching this episode. During the furious battles in the Somme in France sonetimes the bodies of soldiers were left unburied where the soldiers fell because the battles were so terrible that their comrades had to get out if the location immediately. These same bodies were often taken away by the local population and properly buried with dignity. The same thing happened in the Korean war and the Vietnam war of the last century. My own brother died in Mozambique in the Rhodesian war of the 1970"s and for the same reason his body was never recovered. Despite this the local population also buried him. He was not buried in consecrated ground but at least he was buried with dignity. Maybe it is possible that the soldiers who perished in Hopton were also buried with dignity by the local folks. They in all likelihood were buried in consecrated ground. Leaders and generals, kings and nobles may not have a heart but there are a great many simple folk out there who do. May these soldiers rest in peace and may God Bless the good people out there. I am glad the Time Team did not find these soldiers. Instead of a box in the museum they are buried somewhere secret and probably with dignity. But I have watched the episodes of Time Team over and over again and (to qoute PhiI) 'Stone the crows' I have learned so much. Thank you.
You’re right about decent common people! In Bennington Vermont we even buried the Hessian mercenaries during the Revolution with respect & left monuments to their deaths as well as field markers to indicate where their leaders fell or were taken prisoner
Thank you. First time watching you blokes, and I must say you are very entertaining and educational! I don't know why I am just now finding you! Good show!
ok dank je. ik heb gelukkig nog heel wat in te halen! Jammer te moeten horen dat ze er mee gestopt zijn. Bedankt voor je uploads en laten we hopen dat er toch nog een doorstart komt.
My ancestors were from Shropshire. I love the episodes from there. Someday I would love to spend about 2 months exploring England, Ireland and Scotland as I have ancestry from all three.
How I wish Andy Robertshaw would be given his own programme!He's such a marvelous source of weaponry history...loved Phil's Axminster turf comment too.Cheers and Thanks!
I just had to say, thank you so much for uploading this video. My family and I have done lots of research about Hopton. Hopton is my maiden name and Lord Hopton was my (how ever many greats) great grandfather. It's really cool to see something like this explained out about what they think happened verses what the remains say that were left behind. Thanks again.
Perhaps the temporarily unsupervised royalist soldiers massacred the prisoners in retaliation for the "sheep-fold" destruction of so many of their own comrades.
The laws of war, at the time. When under siege, you were given one chance to surrender in order to save your life and the lives of your men. If you didn't surrender immediately, the fighting began and that made the offer null and void. The negotiations would continue, off and on, over weeks and months, and when you lost, the lives of all who resisted were forfeit.
Loved! We have this show in the US only Time Team America. I'll have to do a search to see if you did Bramber Castle, Thyne Manor or any of the many other homes once owned by my ancestors. Thanks for the history!❤
With all the accounts, where are the bones of the defeated army? Shouldn't there be more than just a tooth, ESPECIALLY with the geophysics? I trust Stewart's land surveys more than that dude who does the geophysics, Stewart is more on the mark than any machine. Just my observation watching the series. Stuart is a very intelligent young man.
Depends on if the soils they were buried in are acidic. Even the bones and teeth can rot and disintegrate away in acidic soils. In alkaline soils, you will find bones even thousands of years later. Luck of the draw on where and how you were buried and in what type of soil....I like Stuart too! They all meshed well, quite usually.
i just love these shows. i would so volunteer to work in a dig like this, but id never want to leave. Born from generations of Americans, i relish in my British ancestors and truly am proud of me English blood line. One day I will be the first of my Heatherly family (true English name) to go home. Strange is the strong hold of ancient blood that compels you to come back. I Love England and absolutely cant get enough of the History. Wow Sarah Fulloway, I would be so honored to sit and listen to your fathers story, over and over.. lol. Well done to the individuals that post these videos to learn from. But I have so many questions. Is there anyway to ask/ chat/ talk to anyone involved with this dig? May God Bless you all and may God save the Queen!
I'm normally a great Time Team fan, but as a historian I found this episode sub-par. Not only were they totally uncritical of a clearly biased source, with no other independent source to confirm any of those more lurid aspects of Moore account (the other later Roundhead account is also biased, and who knows whether he got his account from local gossip or someone who might know,) they never found any evidence to support it. All they found was evidence of a battle. Yet they never once thought to even question the veracity of that account and if there ever was a massacre at all. Until the archaeology turns up evidence to support what is clearly a biased account, I don't think we can just accept that the massacre actually took place.
Agree and where were the "hundreds of Royalists" Moore claimed to have killed? Presumably most of them would not have been given decent burials either, so should still be around. All they found was a tooth! Much as I love Phil's fantasies, it didn't prove anything. It could have been pre battle by a long time, removed because it was giving some poor soul pain. As it was totally isolated, with no other finds, our guess is as good as theirs. Is it not a little odd that everyone else was killed , but Moore was spared? Rank notwithstanding, I would have looked deeper into that too.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 if it was removed due to "giving some poor soul pain" it wouldnt look whole and healthy like it did. That was NOT a cavitied tooth...so it was expelled from a person's mouth under violence.
@@vermontvampyre OK so it was a drunken fight when the tooth got knocked out... Who knows is exactly what you just proved. And saying it is a crime is way to modern. All over the world, two armies meet and state in plain language "No quarter". Why is it a crime, if the "writer" did not know that life was offered if they would not fight, You have heard the stories before, Surrender now or everybody dies, including women and children. Can't use dreams and modern BS morality, to judge history. All I know about history, is that I want Mick or Stewart as my tour guide, not these jerks that came later in the series.
This is the first Time Team I've seen where they find a GOLD coin. I've seen copper coins and the odd silver one found on this show, but never gold. Either the owner was too dead to care about losing it or just couldn't find it.
@@charlesharper2357 Yes, Codnor Castle (I think it's in season 15...). And I recall one being found in one of the Roman episodes as well (can't remember where)
@Iams TokiWartooth Most of the men were fighting against the Mexican government dissolvement of federalist constitution by Santa Anna, and for Texas independence, which had been granted a few days before the battle but told late for word to reach it. Many of the defenders were Mexican BTW. Many were Texans who snuck into the fort through Santa Annas lines. Bowie refused to obey Travis because he felt he was an unfit leader. That was the only criminal act if you want to call it that.
leighmossien2009 "The Brits prolly named everything in america :)" No - only the bits the Native Americans, the French, the Dutch and the Spanish missed, and even then the settlers mangled those names too! Have you read the Bryson book? It's a superb read...
FLORIDA is part of the East Coast, Seminole is Native. And Florida is Spanish. But I suspect you are not counting Florida. It's sorta down there where all the retired people live.
No, it's not as nice in most places. Even the water in the gulf isn't refreshing to swim in, much too warm and with the hot and muggy weather it was terrible. Yes, Florida became a state after the revolution, but Spain had it before that and they are who named Florida. Are your parents aware of the hurricanes they get down there? Horrifying storms!
MissCattitude63 : Not only that, but also he wouldn't have to use a weapon to cause his enemies dead, just let him laugh and all will be over in a minute.
Is it just me, or did anyone else feel a bit queasy when they were perched on the grassy bank above a small water trench/hole talking about how the living and the dead were buried in a watery trench/hole?
Deze serie werd tien jaar geleden op Discovery Channel uitgezonden. Ikwas een trouwe kijker. Geweldig dat is ze nu weer op youtube terug vind. Hoeveel delen en seizoenen zijn er eigenlijk?
I know you've probably figured this out, but go to this channel, Reijer Zaaijer, & nearly every show is there. Except for 3. Look under Playlist & you'll see them in order. First couple of seasons had 6 episodes. No real commercials either!
Majority of the Welsh were for the King, so as well as refusing to surrender and the amount on the Kings side killed by such few enemy might explain the execution's at the end. The woman that said there was a code of chivalry in the ECW is part right but as this Time Team shows it wasn't always the case, there were also many other sieges and battles where atrocities occurred.
Don't forget that being executed for being a traitor, treason being the taking up of arms against the King, was a perfectly logical and legal result. 'Murder' and 'massacre' may be a bit of a stretch. The analogy with the Alamo is appropriate as the 'defenders' were actually traitors to the government of Mexico who ruled the area.
As for a 'code of chivalry' - that code applied to medieval knights only, not infantry or soldiers or anyone else - and it was long gone by the 17th century. It wasn't respected at the Battle of Agincourt over 2 centuries earlier.
Brian Smith During the first ECW the code was that if a town or castle siege surrendered then quarter was given, if the besieged town or castle refused to surrender then nigh every living creature was killed within or sold into slavery at best, personally I believe this 'code of chivalry' was a myth, as though saying 'we do have honour' bollocks did they. Both sides of the ECW committed terrible atrocities , from Prince Rupert at Bristol to Cromwell later at Drogheda , even at Marston Moor in 1644 where parliamentarian forces, the victors of the battle, sliced the faces of women in the Baggage trains of the Royalist's, all wars take humanity to it's pit's.
well, the word 'atrocity' is often misused today even by so called historians, whom put today's values on civil war culture, and they would be wrong to do so, particularly with Drogheda.
The old rule was if you sat in your fortress and killed the attackers until you were overwhelmed--then no quarter was given. Of course, in the old days, preemptive surrender could end with the same result. In any case, if the issue was in doubt, send up the white flag or else.
From what I've read of sieges, even those of walled towns and cities, if the defenders refused surrender and the place fell to the enemy there was mass killings acceptably done.
The "reason" for the massacre is nothing more than that's the human animal. There were religious reasons: protestants were "heretics"; war: "roundheads killed my mates and would have killed me" and the officer was out--and that officer was a noble, therefore the roundhead leader was spared, but not his men, commoners all; the nature of the times: people were *much* more vital than in our milkwater times. By today's lights, this would have been a war crime. By *their* lights, it was just the way of it.
I just noticed the names of the dead of the civil war ...a Welshman names Thomas Williams. My maternal Great Grandfather was a stowaway on a ship from Wales to Canada and his name was Thomas Stuart Williams ....his fathers name was Stuart Thomas Williams (as well as my Grandfather Stuart Thomas Williams). My uncle is named Stuart Garfield Williams and his son (his only child whom was killed in a car crash ) was named Martin Stuart Williams! I’m sure we are some kind of kin lol
Huh? Since when does a bare shoulder mean someone is sexually available? Would you have said the same thing if a man was showing his shoulders? What about the TWO women at 11:30 who are wearing tank tops and bearing both of their shoulders? You didn't say anything about them. Oh wait, those women didn't open their mouths. If there's one thing religious extremists hate more than a woman who bares anything other than her face, sometimes even as much as her face, it's a woman with a voice and an opinion.
Nope, I agree about the expert who clearly had her blouse pulled way off her shoulder. Probably thought it was attractive but she came across as inappropriate or silly. No one minds bare arms/shoulders but her was clearly not for the sake of work attire. That said, I also find Phil's filthy hat quite shudder-evoking. It's actually rather a tribute to the show's respect for people that they let them wear whatever they wanted.
I highly doubt that it was intentional. I am a woman, who is near 50, of the same size/build. Sometimes, my v-neck shirts will do that without realizing it. Since that wasn't the focus of the conversation, it probably wasn't even brought to her attention during the filming of that scene. I'd say, more focus on what she's saying and not on how she looks. Wow! Insensitive comment.
God, those dreadful grunge maroon shorts of Tony’s. Also, saying the Alamo and Hopton Castle were equivalent shows a considerable lack both of historical knowledge and sensitivity. The holders of the Alamo were usurpers in someone else’s territory, invaders. They fought to the last man, true. But they were not driven out alive and then butchered. There was no war crime there, as it appears did occur at Hopton.
Hey all. Question, with all the fascinating facts and thoughts and finds going on there, people are actually commenting on a woman's shirt? Really? No offense to anyone ( i figure there must be a reason for the thoughts although it escapes me personally), but who cares about her blouse, shirt, top whatever. Its the History, the site, the relics, the remains etc. that matter. Personally, if she had been topless i might have noticed but with all the history and findings it would have only distracted me for a moment. (I'm sorry maybe I shouldn't have said that, I meant no disrespect, i think women are fascinating too), i just meant with all that was going on, who spends time asking about a woman's shirt? Please, no offense meant to anyone, I was just puzzled is all.
Watching Brits fire guns is HILARIOUS.....Here in Gods country we shoot at least 3 times a day. You cant drive in Merica without learnin the art of the firearm.
While shows like these are fun to watch, it's ridiculous to think that something that takes archaeologists months and years to do, can be done in a three day period.
Firstly they ARE (the presenter Tony aside) all respected archeologists...what they're doing is a form of exploratory archeology, designed to push on an otherwise unfunded project, leaving some progress (and hopefully a better knowledge base) in place for any subsequent, more orthodox, team to follow up. If it's any help, at the time these programmes were being made, Time Team was putting more funds annually into UK exploratory archeology than any other single source...sobering thought isn't it?
Well ya learn something new everyday! I always assume people on TV are reading a script and don't really know what they're on about. Like when the weatherman tells you it's going to be hot and sunny all week but alas, you got rain instead. I likewise assume all TV shows have the conclusion met, or they wouldn't be telling us much of anything. You've got to have a really good base of knowledge before you go into these places like this, I would guess. A tremendous amount of research must have went into it before they did the show. I'm guessing people petition them "Come look at my site" and they weed through what's interesting or what isn't, then once narrowed down they do a ton of research on it. This way they can make educated guesses where to dig... I'm new to Time Team, never seen them before. I do find them interesting and entertaining, however. I enjoy shows like this, and even if they're way off like the History Channel can sometimes be, if I'm interested in the subject enough I will usually research it myself just out of curiosity.
StonedPatriot If I've helped you're more than welcome...to be fair loads of people think it's trivialised archeology, but loads more claim to have have benefitted from the series and gained an interest from it...personally I love it...
I've watched a few episodes since my post :) I think it's great. Like their attempt at finding the actual "King Arthur" which came to not a whole lot, but we (wife and I while watching the show) DID get to see a lot of where the myth of King Arthur sprang from, including France! Most of how we view that myth today comes from France, as far as the mental image of the Chivalrous King Arthur and his Knights. A couple of Welsh accounts make him out to have been a warrior, and even King Edward had his OWN round table made and the Normans used him to claim that they descended from him, because they had no real claim to the land, except for what they'd conquered. One claim authors have made regarding him that didn't pan out was that he was certainly not born at Tintegel. Several other episodes were equally educative and done in an interesting manner. My wife pointed out to me that I'd have been in heaven just to watch the digs, let alone participate LOL. So like I said, ya learn something new everyday. Your defense of the show was appropriate.
Celto Loco I have nothing much to say about university courses in automobile mechanics, other than that I did not know they existed. But as for university science, which is what is relevant here, you have to remember two important differences between them and Time Team: (1) At least half of the point in much of university science is to train students. Sometimes a professor may assign a student to do something knowing it will take the student a day to do it rather than the hour it would take the professor, but that's the only way the student will learn. (The odds are even your professors could fix a brake problem faster if they didn't have to make sure everyone got a good look at what was happening and heard a verbal explanation.) (2) Time team hits these projects with at least 5 times as many experts and many times the budget of a university team. For instance, look at all the times the landscape archaeologists are able to survey sites from a helicopter. A typical university team will never get to do this!
Celto Loco That's Diane Purkiss. Respected historian and author of several Civil War books. Her books are very engaging as they depict the Civil War from the accounts actual individuals, rich and poor, living at the time.
bradford lad So THAT's Diane Purkiss. I thought her book 'The English Civil War: A People's History' was great, 'though I read she was a bit sloppy with some dates. I also got the feeling she sympathized with the Royalists more than Parliament. (Grr)
26:18 The detectorist who found the gold coin is my Dad :D I remember him calling home about it and he could barely speak. Still love this episode! Thanks for uploading!
+Sarah Fulloway That's so cool! I'd be speechless too if I found a gold coin. Did he get to keep it?
+Fedra Haldane unfortunately not, but we definitely have the pictures!
+Sarah Fulloway What a shame, but it's not everyday you find a gold coin on national television.
+Sarah Fulloway Congratultions to your dad! i also have had the pleasure of finding the sane coin as your dad.. James 1st Quarter Laurel... found myself shouting at the tv when they first found it saying its a quarter laurel... not what they where initially saying it was! great feeling of digging your hole and pulling out a gold hammered coin! ive been hooked ever since.
Sarah, superb story, your Dad looked so happy. What a wonderful thing to have found !
I know viewership was declining by Season 17 but the sites, the investigations, the discoveries, the personalities are still all top notch. Still very cool!
I love history so will happily watch these endlessly.
Absobloodylutely!!! 👏😊
So good to see Stewart back!
Been watching this show since the start. It’s one of my favourites. You’ve done a great service to humanity by putting this up here. I salute you, sir!
You could buy the DVD sets. I didn't know they were out until I searched it.
@@Pauldjreadman Are they available to USA viewers?
Lori Benton It's very each to look up. I found them on Amazon, as an example www.amazon.co.uk/time-team-dvd/s?k=time+team+dvd
I have only recently discovered this program. What a fantastic vehicle to educate people on history, better than any book or course. The Time Team brought history to life, getting their hands dirty and informing the world. Thank you for sharing your passion with not just those in Britain but around the world.
Mr. John, I call him " The Key Man", because he always uses his car key to point out things with!! This show is wonderful. I've been watching a least one video every day now for about two weeks now, and have enjoyed every second of them all!!! I love all of the people in these videos and totally respect them and what they all have to say! I just love it! great bunch of people here. just sayin
I am in the USA. I would love to have a time team here. I love archaeology and history.
You'll find a few of the Time Team Amerrica episodes here on Reijer's channel!
I’m an American Bloke and it’s so interesting watching the history of another country!!!
As another American, I totally agree. Except for the southwest and their beautiful cliff dwellings, there isn't much American archaeology of interest to me. It seems to be all clay pipes and medicine bottles.
Stewart is fantastic... at first glance, all the peering around make it look like he's lost. Don't be fooled... you can hear the gears turning as he maps it out in his mind.
I am from the USA and enjoy it to
Thanks so much for posting these Tony Robinson shows I am so addicted to them all! Peace and Love!
An amazing episode. I love Phil's reaction when he shot the gun & then the canon ball. What an amazing history & dig. I love this show, each episode is very educational. Great job to all involved in making this episode !! It would be great if we could see these episodes on American TV. 😃
Thanks you again for your time & the wonderful uploads. You have made a lot of people very happy.
Who watches Time Team from a different country. Would you like a Time Team for your country?
we had Time Team come to America. I love my country, but would much rather see the history of Britain....it's just way more interesting, cause it's so much older than America's short history. Britain is much more beautiful.
Susan Simpson, the history and archaeology of the Americas didnt start with the formation of ur country, there were ppl living there for 1000s of years, b4 Vikings first discovered North America (Vinland), b4 Europeans started settling in the Americas. Dont u want to know about the lives and history of those, who came b4 u?
The problem with the Americas is that very little of the stuff is durable, stone, etc. It mostly was like say Neanderthal Europe. South America started building in stone in CE, and the mound builders built in colossal earth structure but pretty much no durable metal. So there simply are no remains to find much, like the Neanderthal times. Also the problem with no discernible writing to record things.
No I haven't been there. The point is you can hardly go one mile without finding something of a durable nature in Europe but, you can probably go a hundred miles or more in the Americas and still not find anything. The 'remains' just aren't present in the same quantity, although they are here in places. Does serpent mound have stone walls in some sort of pattern with coins and pottery shards around to be found? Perhaps some but not like Europe. What we have was more ephemeral and didn't last, other then in a few locations, not that it didn't exist at one time. Also the Americas just weren't as heavily settled/populated which is what made it so attractive to the Europeans who found it. There was agriculture here but not as extensive as Europe, until the Europeans came the Americas were more like the time of the Neanderthals in Europe. Sad, but just very little archeology (NOT none) to be found here until the Europeans and their metal.
So are you saying that the archeology findings are just as rich in the Americas as in Europe? If so how come we don't have as rich findings in museums as there? The civilization was here, yes, agreed, just not as much hard surviving "things" as there. It's sad but true, they have things 'everywhere' as far back as say 5 or 6 thousand years ago, those thing are here, just far between. It's a pity but it exists. Maybe in the future methods will exist to find the 'things' we can't find now. European archeologist come here and are amazed at how picky we are about every little grain we dig out.
Thanks for posting.
Thank you for this! Channel 4's uploads are full of adverts and keep freezing - this is perfect!
I'm a Yank and I love these shows. I wish they had aired here. But the fact that I can watch all of em on here is amazing. Phil is my absolute favorite. He cracks me up.
A thought crossed my mind while watching this episode.
During the furious battles in the Somme in France sonetimes the bodies of soldiers were left unburied where the soldiers fell because the battles were so terrible that their comrades had to get out if the location immediately. These same bodies were often taken away by the local population and properly buried with dignity.
The same thing happened in the Korean war and the Vietnam war of the last century. My own brother died in Mozambique in the Rhodesian war of the 1970"s and for the same reason his body was never recovered. Despite this the local population also buried him. He was not buried in consecrated ground but at least he was buried with dignity.
Maybe it is possible that the soldiers who perished in Hopton were also buried with dignity by the local folks. They in all likelihood were buried in consecrated ground.
Leaders and generals, kings and nobles may not have a heart but there are a great many simple folk out there who do. May these soldiers rest in peace and may God Bless the good people out there. I am glad the Time Team did not find these soldiers. Instead of a box in the museum they are buried somewhere secret and probably with dignity.
But I have watched the episodes of Time Team over and over again and (to qoute PhiI) 'Stone the crows' I have learned so much. Thank you.
You’re right about decent common people! In Bennington Vermont we even buried the Hessian mercenaries during the Revolution with respect & left monuments to their deaths as well as field markers to indicate where their leaders fell or were taken prisoner
@@caroleminke6116 There you go. Thanks for that interesting input. Best Wishes
Thank you. First time watching you blokes, and I must say you are very entertaining and educational! I don't know why I am just now finding you! Good show!
ok dank je. ik heb gelukkig nog heel wat in te halen! Jammer te moeten horen dat ze er mee gestopt zijn. Bedankt voor je uploads en laten we hopen dat er toch nog een doorstart komt.
My ancestors were from Shropshire. I love the episodes from there. Someday I would love to spend about 2 months exploring England, Ireland and Scotland as I have ancestry from all three.
How I wish Andy Robertshaw would be given his own programme!He's such a marvelous source of weaponry history...loved Phil's Axminster turf comment too.Cheers and Thanks!
I (being American) had to look that up: I presume he means it's posh, high-quality carpet-- I mean, turf....
I just had to say, thank you so much for uploading this video. My family and I have done lots of research about Hopton. Hopton is my maiden name and Lord Hopton was my (how ever many greats) great grandfather. It's really cool to see something like this explained out about what they think happened verses what the remains say that were left behind. Thanks again.
i visited the castle in my youth as a borderer in bedstone school and i remember a rather sad atmosphere there i felt a bit scared and now i know why.
Thankyouthankyouthankyou .... plus the additional info in the description... time team rules !
On Google Earth here:
52°23′45″N 2°55′54″W
The outlines of the moats are clearly visible.
Love this series!
A well put together show! Excellent productions :D
I wonder if Tony has done any audio books. I bet he would be great at it.
Cj W he’s done some Terry Practett , they are great,
I remember the kids' books he read for tape. Also search UA-cam for TALES FROM FAT TULIP'S GARDEN.
Why am I so obsessed with this show?!
Because it's quality stuff!
It shaped much of my childhood and i'm still watching ^^
Me, too. Perfect for the quarantine!
Perhaps the temporarily unsupervised royalist soldiers massacred the prisoners in retaliation for the "sheep-fold" destruction of so many of their own comrades.
I didn't know Baldrick was so cultured. I'm impressed.
The laws of war, at the time.
When under siege, you were given one chance to surrender in order to save your life and the lives of your men. If you didn't surrender immediately, the fighting began and that made the offer null and void. The negotiations would continue, off and on, over weeks and months, and when you lost, the lives of all who resisted were forfeit.
thank you i changed it hope everything is oke now.
It's great, just like everything you do
Loved! We have this show in the US only Time Team America. I'll have to do a search to see if you did Bramber Castle, Thyne Manor or any of the many other homes once owned by my ancestors. Thanks for the history!❤
Why is her sleeve purposely off her shoulder? It has perplexed me for years.
In pensacola, Fl: 300 defenders went against 5000(?) attackers at Queen Anne's redoubt.
If my surname was Gator I would want to be named Ali
Well done show. I have a bit of a crush on Helen.
What would they do if they took John’s keys away? How would he cope having to point things out with a pin or a finger?
Hey, could grow a nail like Phil 😮
Totaal 20 seizoenen van 1994 t/m 2013 S20-13 is de laatste uitzending van de serie ze zijn er helaas mee gestopt.
Reijer Zaaijer you are a hero, thank you, dankuwel, danke schön, gracias.
I'm an American but my ancestors are from Shropshire. I wish I could visit there but alas I am too poor. Maybe one day.
I feel like a movie could be made out of the last stand of this castle.
With all the accounts, where are the bones of the defeated army? Shouldn't there be more than just a tooth, ESPECIALLY with the geophysics? I trust Stewart's land surveys more than that dude who does the geophysics, Stewart is more on the mark than any machine. Just my observation watching the series. Stuart is a very intelligent young man.
They weren't buried...so they bones would have rotted quickly.
The massacre is historical fact...it was widely discussed at the time.
Depends on if the soils they were buried in are acidic. Even the bones and teeth can rot and disintegrate away in acidic soils. In alkaline soils, you will find bones even thousands of years later. Luck of the draw on where and how you were buried and in what type of soil....I like Stuart too! They all meshed well, quite usually.
And phil Clearly proves why People don't wanna give up they're Cannons at 32:12
i just love these shows. i would so volunteer to work in a dig like this, but id never want to leave. Born from generations of Americans, i relish in my British ancestors and truly am proud of me English blood line. One day I will be the first of my Heatherly family (true English name) to go home. Strange is the strong hold of ancient blood that compels you to come back. I Love England and absolutely cant get enough of the History. Wow Sarah Fulloway, I would be so honored to sit and listen to your fathers story, over and over.. lol. Well done to the individuals that post these videos to learn from. But I have so many questions. Is there anyway to ask/ chat/ talk to anyone involved with this dig? May God Bless you all and may God save the Queen!
Well actually, your name's origin is Old Norse, hæð which still today is the name for heather in Scandinavia, now spelled as 'hed'. 😊
I'm normally a great Time Team fan, but as a historian I found this episode sub-par. Not only were they totally uncritical of a clearly biased source, with no other independent source to confirm any of those more lurid aspects of Moore account (the other later Roundhead account is also biased, and who knows whether he got his account from local gossip or someone who might know,) they never found any evidence to support it. All they found was evidence of a battle. Yet they never once thought to even question the veracity of that account and if there ever was a massacre at all. Until the archaeology turns up evidence to support what is clearly a biased account, I don't think we can just accept that the massacre actually took place.
Agree and where were the "hundreds of Royalists" Moore claimed to have killed? Presumably most of them would not have been given decent burials either, so should still be around. All they found was a tooth! Much as I love Phil's fantasies, it didn't prove anything. It could have been pre battle by a long time, removed because it was giving some poor soul pain. As it was totally isolated, with no other finds, our guess is as good as theirs.
Is it not a little odd that everyone else was killed , but Moore was spared? Rank notwithstanding, I would have looked deeper into that too.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 if it was removed due to "giving some poor soul pain" it wouldnt look whole and healthy like it did. That was NOT a cavitied tooth...so it was expelled from a person's mouth under violence.
@@vermontvampyre OK so it was a drunken fight when the tooth got knocked out... Who knows is exactly what you just proved. And saying it is a crime is way to modern. All over the world, two armies meet and state in plain language "No quarter". Why is it a crime, if the "writer" did not know that life was offered if they would not fight, You have heard the stories before, Surrender now or everybody dies, including women and children. Can't use dreams and modern BS morality, to judge history. All I know about history, is that I want Mick or Stewart as my tour guide, not these jerks that came later in the series.
Phil is a diamond.
They found their first gold coin a few seasons back, on a Roman dig.
Phil is a kook! I love him!
LOOL... Phil and his love for beer always makes me laugh
Name? "Shropshire Slasher, sir."
Occupation? "Shropshire Slasher, sir."
First thing through my mind every time I hear 'Shropshire'.
Does anyone else see this lady giving tony a come-hither shoulder or is it just me?
You are not alone. I found it strange.
Yes, agreed. She was odd. I kept wishing someone would give her a shawl or coat.
She needed to put her shirt on. It would of helped her looks.
This is the first Time Team I've seen where they find a GOLD coin. I've seen copper coins and the odd silver one found on this show, but never gold. Either the owner was too dead to care about losing it or just couldn't find it.
not sure how this would fit in the context, but i heard this type of coin (a gold iacob) was quite often used by royalists as a protection amulet
Really? That would explain its presence here
Nope...they've found one while excavating the moat in an earlier castle dig.
@@charlesharper2357 Yes, Codnor Castle (I think it's in season 15...). And I recall one being found in one of the Roman episodes as well (can't remember where)
So sort of the British version of the Alamo.
Edit: lol, Tony just said the same thing.
not really, but if you consider those defending the Alamo the criminal they were, then yes, very similar
@@IamsTokiWartooth You are a FOOL. You Know nothing of Texas history.
@Iams TokiWartooth Most of the men were fighting against the Mexican government dissolvement of federalist constitution by Santa Anna, and for Texas independence, which had been granted a few days before the battle but told late for word to reach it. Many of the defenders were Mexican BTW. Many were Texans who snuck into the fort through Santa Annas lines. Bowie refused to obey Travis because he felt he was an unfit leader. That was the only criminal act if you want to call it that.
Helen is not an unpleasant woman.
Time Team Drinking Game: Take a drink every time Tony uses the word "frustrate". Cheers!
A shot everytime Phil cries out, "Stone the crows!".
this is fascinating stuff, being in the US I have never heard of Hopton, of course you may never have heard of the Alamo.
The Brits prolly named evrything in america :)
leighmossien2009 Maybe in the Colonies, but the French, Spanish, Germans, Dutch, Natives, and Irish have also left their mark here.
leighmossien2009
"The Brits prolly named everything in america :)"
No - only the bits the Native Americans, the French, the Dutch and the Spanish missed, and even then the settlers mangled those names too! Have you read the Bryson book? It's a superb read...
FLORIDA is part of the East Coast, Seminole is Native. And Florida is Spanish. But I suspect you are not counting Florida. It's sorta down there where all the retired people live.
No, it's not as nice in most places. Even the water in the gulf isn't refreshing to swim in, much too warm and with the hot and muggy weather it was terrible. Yes, Florida became a state after the revolution, but Spain had it before that and they are who named Florida. Are your parents aware of the hurricanes they get down there? Horrifying storms!
MissCattitude63 : Not only that, but also he wouldn't have to use a weapon to cause his enemies dead, just let him laugh and all will be over in a minute.
Is it just me, or did anyone else feel a bit queasy when they were perched on the grassy bank above a small water trench/hole talking about how the living and the dead were buried in a watery trench/hole?
Tony's shirt makes my eyes water ...
Phil and his cut off shorts .
Deze serie werd tien jaar geleden op Discovery Channel uitgezonden. Ikwas een trouwe kijker. Geweldig dat is ze nu weer op youtube terug vind. Hoeveel delen en seizoenen zijn er eigenlijk?
I know you've probably figured this out, but go to this channel, Reijer Zaaijer, & nearly every show is there. Except for 3. Look under Playlist & you'll see them in order. First couple of seasons had 6 episodes. No real commercials either!
Good mountain biking
Majority of the Welsh were for the King, so as well as refusing to surrender and the amount on the Kings side killed by such few enemy might explain the execution's at the end. The woman that said there was a code of chivalry in the ECW is part right but as this Time Team shows it wasn't always the case, there were also many other sieges and battles where atrocities occurred.
Don't forget that being executed for being a traitor, treason being the taking up of arms against the King, was a perfectly logical and legal result. 'Murder' and 'massacre' may be a bit of a stretch.
The analogy with the Alamo is appropriate as the 'defenders' were actually traitors to the government of Mexico who ruled the area.
As for a 'code of chivalry' - that code applied to medieval knights only, not infantry or soldiers or anyone else - and it was long gone by the 17th century. It wasn't respected at the Battle of Agincourt over 2 centuries earlier.
Brian Smith During the first ECW the code was that if a town or castle siege surrendered then quarter was given, if the besieged town or castle refused to surrender then nigh every living creature was killed within or sold into slavery at best, personally I believe this 'code of chivalry' was a myth, as though saying 'we do have honour' bollocks did they.
Both sides of the ECW committed terrible atrocities , from Prince Rupert at Bristol to Cromwell later at Drogheda , even at Marston Moor in 1644 where parliamentarian forces, the victors of the battle, sliced the faces of women in the Baggage trains of the Royalist's, all wars take humanity to it's pit's.
well, the word 'atrocity' is often misused today even by so called historians, whom put today's values on civil war culture, and they would be wrong to do so, particularly with Drogheda.
The one then that a Civil War almost always is not is civil.
The gold coin was probably lost during the construction of the brick dwelling
I still love Faye.
The old rule was if you sat in your fortress and killed the attackers until you were overwhelmed--then no quarter was given. Of course, in the old days, preemptive surrender could end with the same result. In any case, if the issue was in doubt, send up the white flag or else.
What did Phil say when he fired the shot? Sounded like Stone of crows?
"Stone the crows." Old English outburst, denoting surprise.
He says that often.
From what I've read of sieges, even those of walled towns and cities, if the defenders refused surrender and the place fell to the enemy there was mass killings acceptably done.
First aired May 23, 2010.
The "reason" for the massacre is nothing more than that's the human animal. There were religious reasons: protestants were "heretics"; war: "roundheads killed my mates and would have killed me" and the officer was out--and that officer was a noble, therefore the roundhead leader was spared, but not his men, commoners all; the nature of the times: people were *much* more vital than in our milkwater times. By today's lights, this would have been a war crime. By *their* lights, it was just the way of it.
meine Brustwarzen sind sehr aufgeregt!
i have been there
"stone the crows!" finish your drink!!! 27:50
I just noticed the names of the dead of the civil war ...a Welshman names Thomas Williams. My maternal Great Grandfather was a stowaway on a ship from Wales to Canada and his name was Thomas Stuart Williams ....his fathers name was Stuart Thomas Williams (as well as my Grandfather Stuart Thomas Williams). My uncle is named Stuart Garfield Williams and his son (his only child whom was killed in a car crash ) was named Martin Stuart Williams! I’m sure we are some kind of kin lol
Phil being Phil.
Phil in shorts.....Grrrrrrrrrrr
Hope it's ok
Leuk
So, are some type of cargo pants required if you are on the geo physics team?
Metal-free clothing is necessary when carrying out magnetometer surveys so that may be why?
Mod cons ?
Modern conveniences.
Baldric is that you?
@ 11.30... Have a look near any standing water.... Sitting in front of the water 😂
Geake in shorts.....Grrrrrrrrrrrr
pretty sure phil's are shorter
Hope it goes ok
Someone should have told that one woman "no one wants to see your shoulder. Pull up your shirt sleeve for crying out loud."
Elle Stone Agreed. She needs to be on a different show if she's looking for a date.
Huh? Since when does a bare shoulder mean someone is sexually available? Would you have said the same thing if a man was showing his shoulders? What about the TWO women at 11:30 who are wearing tank tops and bearing both of their shoulders? You didn't say anything about them. Oh wait, those women didn't open their mouths. If there's one thing religious extremists hate more than a woman who bares anything other than her face, sometimes even as much as her face, it's a woman with a voice and an opinion.
Nope, I agree about the expert who clearly had her blouse pulled way off her shoulder. Probably thought it was attractive but she came across as inappropriate or silly. No one minds bare arms/shoulders but her was clearly not for the sake of work attire. That said, I also find Phil's filthy hat quite shudder-evoking. It's actually rather a tribute to the show's respect for people that they let them wear whatever they wanted.
I agree. That might look good on a 15-year-old girl, but not on a woman in her 50s!
I highly doubt that it was intentional. I am a woman, who is near 50, of the same size/build. Sometimes, my v-neck shirts will do that without realizing it. Since that wasn't the focus of the conversation, it probably wasn't even brought to her attention during the filming of that scene. I'd say, more focus on what she's saying and not on how she looks. Wow! Insensitive comment.
i watched this last night haahhaha
God, those dreadful grunge maroon shorts of Tony’s. Also, saying the Alamo and Hopton Castle were equivalent shows a considerable lack both of historical knowledge and sensitivity. The holders of the Alamo were usurpers in someone else’s territory, invaders. They fought to the last man, true. But they were not driven out alive and then butchered. There was no war crime there, as it appears did occur at Hopton.
'Baldrick' is always so bloody negative. Sometimes I wish I could shut him up.
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Whats wrong with the womans shirt?
Hey all. Question, with all the fascinating facts and thoughts and finds going on there, people are actually commenting on a woman's shirt? Really? No offense to anyone ( i figure there must be a reason for the thoughts although it escapes me personally), but who cares about her blouse, shirt, top whatever. Its the History, the site, the relics, the remains etc. that matter. Personally, if she had been topless i might have noticed but with all the history and findings it would have only distracted me for a moment. (I'm sorry maybe I shouldn't have said that, I meant no disrespect, i think women are fascinating too), i just meant with all that was going on, who spends time asking about a woman's shirt? Please, no offense meant to anyone, I was just puzzled is all.
I agree, the way she wore the blouse was VERY distastful! And Tony looks funny in red shorts. (Lol)
What is wrong with you KV?
Helen is hot.
Watching Brits fire guns is HILARIOUS.....Here in Gods country we shoot at least 3 times a day. You cant drive in Merica without learnin the art of the firearm.
And yet there have already been 983 accidental shootings in the US in 2016 already. Maybe u guys need to learn a bit more
Dave Shortland Whats that i couldnt hear you over the accidental gun fire.
One suspects that you shoot every time you switch on your computer.
There have been times when I wanted to shoot my computer!
And that Jason is nothing but a shame.
While shows like these are fun to watch, it's ridiculous to think that something that takes archaeologists months and years to do, can be done in a three day period.
Firstly they ARE (the presenter Tony aside) all respected archeologists...what they're doing is a form of exploratory archeology, designed to push on an otherwise unfunded project, leaving some progress (and hopefully a better knowledge base) in place for any subsequent, more orthodox, team to follow up.
If it's any help, at the time these programmes were being made, Time Team was putting more funds annually into UK exploratory archeology than any other single source...sobering thought isn't it?
Well ya learn something new everyday! I always assume people on TV are reading a script and don't really know what they're on about. Like when the weatherman tells you it's going to be hot and sunny all week but alas, you got rain instead. I likewise assume all TV shows have the conclusion met, or they wouldn't be telling us much of anything. You've got to have a really good base of knowledge before you go into these places like this, I would guess. A tremendous amount of research must have went into it before they did the show. I'm guessing people petition them "Come look at my site" and they weed through what's interesting or what isn't, then once narrowed down they do a ton of research on it. This way they can make educated guesses where to dig... I'm new to Time Team, never seen them before. I do find them interesting and entertaining, however. I enjoy shows like this, and even if they're way off like the History Channel can sometimes be, if I'm interested in the subject enough I will usually research it myself just out of curiosity.
StonedPatriot
If I've helped you're more than welcome...to be fair loads of people think it's trivialised archeology, but loads more claim to have have benefitted from the series and gained an interest from it...personally I love it...
I've watched a few episodes since my post :) I think it's great. Like their attempt at finding the actual "King Arthur" which came to not a whole lot, but we (wife and I while watching the show) DID get to see a lot of where the myth of King Arthur sprang from, including France! Most of how we view that myth today comes from France, as far as the mental image of the Chivalrous King Arthur and his Knights. A couple of Welsh accounts make him out to have been a warrior, and even King Edward had his OWN round table made and the Normans used him to claim that they descended from him, because they had no real claim to the land, except for what they'd conquered. One claim authors have made regarding him that didn't pan out was that he was certainly not born at Tintegel. Several other episodes were equally educative and done in an interesting manner. My wife pointed out to me that I'd have been in heaven just to watch the digs, let alone participate LOL. So like I said, ya learn something new everyday. Your defense of the show was appropriate.
Celto Loco I have nothing much to say about university courses in automobile mechanics, other than that I did not know they existed. But as for university science, which is what is relevant here, you have to remember two important differences between them and Time Team: (1) At least half of the point in much of university science is to train students. Sometimes a professor may assign a student to do something knowing it will take the student a day to do it rather than the hour it would take the professor, but that's the only way the student will learn. (The odds are even your professors could fix a brake problem faster if they didn't have to make sure everyone got a good look at what was happening and heard a verbal explanation.) (2) Time team hits these projects with at least 5 times as many experts and many times the budget of a university team. For instance, look at all the times the landscape archaeologists are able to survey sites from a helicopter. A typical university team will never get to do this!
Too bad your videos are of very poor quality. Funny that it says 4 HD in the upper left corner. Im going to search for better channels.
Neil has adhad and eneds to lay off the damned caffine gods he is annoyingly whinny
What about the chick who is in her night grown which is falling off her shoulder. Is she trying to look hot, cause it looks bad.
Kathie gillaspie Yeah, she looks like my sister-in-law. That's not a good look.
Celto Loco That's Diane Purkiss. Respected historian and author of several Civil War books. Her books are very engaging as they depict the Civil War from the accounts actual individuals, rich and poor, living at the time.
bradford lad So THAT's Diane Purkiss. I thought her book 'The English Civil War: A People's History' was great, 'though I read she was a bit sloppy with some dates. I also got the feeling she sympathized with the Royalists more than Parliament. (Grr)
Around 35 million quid in 2014 rising to approx. 40m in 2015.
Hope it goes ok