Why Beginner Runners Always Fail

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  • @marccarlton2163
    @marccarlton2163 2 місяці тому +14

    Just turned 70, I am so thankful that in my 30s, 40s, and 50s I used to go to a gym regularly and did strength training. It means I can still have a running career. One mistake I made when I took up running (6 years ago) was to assume that running would keep my legs strong and I could give up the strength training at the gym. Eventually I started to pick up running injuries. Running I'd s journey and I am still learning.

  • @missingmimic
    @missingmimic 2 місяці тому +73

    Just had my fastest 5k yesterday at 30 minutes, I'm really excited to get faster but not on every run 😂

    • @abbyschwendler1107
      @abbyschwendler1107 2 місяці тому +1

      Congratulations!

    • @betterme6877
      @betterme6877 2 місяці тому +1

      No need, because getting at 30 or under but having it feel wayyyyyy easier is progress too 💪

    • @hemantbhandari9488
      @hemantbhandari9488 2 місяці тому +1

      Congrats. You will surely become faster just focus on aerobic base and atleast run 3 easy runs per week. 🙂

  • @rokasha40
    @rokasha40 2 місяці тому +48

    Ran a 4k today, in 22 minutes, aiming for a 5k, but thing is, I couldn't run 1k 2 months back but your videos motivate me, so yeah I ran a 4k 🎉🎉🎉

    • @hemantbhandari9488
      @hemantbhandari9488 2 місяці тому +2

      Congrats. I feel happy for you. Just be consistent and you will even run 10k. Just remember someday you might have a run bad runs too but don’t let them define or question your progress just think one bad run and move on to next day. 🙂
      I can relate with the feeling of not being able to run and starting to run to being consistent. I too couldn’t run 4 ago but since 4 months have been consistently running.

    • @SalfordAmmies84
      @SalfordAmmies84 Місяць тому

      What the hell is a 4k. 😂😂

    • @hemantbhandari9488
      @hemantbhandari9488 Місяць тому +3

      @ 4km. In runners world we use km as k so 4k 5k 10k 20k these are distances.

    • @rokasha40
      @rokasha40 Місяць тому

      @@hemantbhandari9488 yes and last Sunday I ran a 5k in 28 minutes and 5 seconds

    • @rokasha40
      @rokasha40 Місяць тому

      @@hemantbhandari9488 understandable

  • @MichaelBatterbee-h8u
    @MichaelBatterbee-h8u 2 місяці тому +11

    Running has given me an outlook on life that I would never have had and the mistakes are the memorable moments you look back on as you progress

  • @janetpaul8029
    @janetpaul8029 2 місяці тому +14

    Good information as always and excited to watch you race with Kipchogi! I agree with you 100% regarding strength training. I have been running for 40 years but only started strength training 8 years ago. I'm soon to be 70 and still running strong and I believe the strength training has alot to do with that!

  • @trexinvert
    @trexinvert 2 місяці тому +26

    Hitting the wall during a marathon teaches you a lot.

    • @abbyschwendler1107
      @abbyschwendler1107 2 місяці тому +2

      I ran my first marathon a few weeks back. Mile 18 and I was toast. Never bonked before in any of my long runs. I was excited and distracted during the race and was forgetting to eat and drink like normal. What a painful experience. But a great lesson

    • @trexinvert
      @trexinvert 2 місяці тому +7

      @@abbyschwendler1107 Yes, once you bonk you cannot get back up to speed it's a slow death. The temp, water and gels may make a difference. However, I think it really comes down to picking your right pace and running "machine like" from start to end. Usually, the right pace "feels too easy" during the run. After I learned to train better, I usually ran good finish times with a negative split. I would adjust after the first half or 2 hrs, but I would still try to stay within the "margin" of hitting the wall. I would start to feel the "heavy legs" gradually creeping in from last 6 miles. If I could fight to maintain pace, I knew that I used 100% of my potential that race. A great feeling while limping the day after and week.

  • @boeck6425
    @boeck6425 2 місяці тому +4

    That volume increase 15:58 spiked my heart rate. 10/10 effort for the heart.

  • @itsNRG
    @itsNRG 2 місяці тому +2

    I was guilty of running hard every session. Have been on/off running all my life, but truly being able to slow down my easy runs didn't happen until getting injured this year while preparing for my first half marathon. Looking back, I am extremely grateful as I feel stronger than ever! I'm able to put in more mileage now than years past, but it took more smart thinking and listening to the body rather than trying to outperform myself every time. Congrats on almost 100K subs!

  • @Shevock
    @Shevock Місяць тому +2

    Congrats on 100k! You've chased the subscriptions for a long time. Great accomplishment.

  • @rameses2460
    @rameses2460 2 місяці тому +5

    Probably if I was younger. But now at 54 yrs old, im just happy I finish race decently. Although I’ve improved gradually on every race I join, im not conscious of the pb. As long as your conditioning is good, the improvement on time will come naturally without really putting a huge amount of effort.

  • @pattyandstanhike
    @pattyandstanhike 2 місяці тому +3

    I love your shoe storage unit and the fact you have more shoes than will fit!❤😂

  • @nberkel
    @nberkel 2 місяці тому +1

    I like the advice of experiencing both going out too hard and not hard enough. Solid 👍🏼

  • @abbyschwendler1107
    @abbyschwendler1107 2 місяці тому +2

    Great tips. I actually avoided participating in races for many years, because I was afraid it would take the joy out of running. I ran my first race in October, and I immediately signed up for 2 more. I'll never win a race, but it was a real blast. And since I've included strength straining, I find I get less minor aches and pains. My legs feel stronger and less fatigued.

  • @davidgray9887
    @davidgray9887 2 місяці тому

    So many great tips and advice, as usual, thank you Ben and Mary. Looking forward to the Kipchogi episode. Although, I was fortunate enough not to make the mistake of a lack of strength and conditioning work, I must say you are absolutely right, it is so important. At 16 I started a S&C training and within the year had gone from 1.59 for 800m to 1.54. I went onto having a reasonably successful track career. At 55 I ran my first 100k ultra but more importantly my fitness (as my consultant said) saved my life after contracting a rare illness. I am back running , still doing strength work and aim to run another ultra. Keep up the great advice as I am sure it will help others in the same way running and S&C have helped me. 💪🏼🏃🏽‍♂️

  • @clipper6429
    @clipper6429 2 місяці тому +4

    I haven’t got anywhere near a PB for months lol.. i just run and enjoy it 😊

  • @DavidKloepperWellness
    @DavidKloepperWellness 2 місяці тому +2

    Great video! Sooo close to 100k!! Way to go 🏃

  • @domenicobarani863
    @domenicobarani863 2 місяці тому

    Great content dude, keep it going! I used to try and out do myself, but I learned the hard way through slow progress and injury. Now, 4 years down the road, I generally stick to the plan and have noticed massive improvements across all the typical distances. However, I still find keeping my easy pace a real challenge, running that easy feels exaggerated and inefficient to me, and it always creeps up to top end z2, low z3!

  • @KevinConxn
    @KevinConxn 2 місяці тому +2

    I was like, "yeah, I should subscribe." I looked and then realized I already was. 😅 😂 Long time ago. Loving your videos. 😊

  • @karlbratby4349
    @karlbratby4349 2 місяці тому

    Hey I use the fitness pension analogy when I teach people at my gym the benefits of advanced callisthenics vs lifting weights 🎉🎉🎉. When you are a runner in your 50’s I’m just happy to be able to run, speed is not everything but it takes experience to realise this . You are both superhuman to run as you do in that heat and humidity ❤❤

  • @greenliter1
    @greenliter1 Місяць тому

    I’m fortunate that I started strength training before picking up running. I have only been running for an equivalent of a month and just actually started using online watch coach this week. I know I’m nowhere close to being an average runner but I’m proud of the tiny amounts of progress I’ve made.

  • @stevebailey1682
    @stevebailey1682 2 місяці тому

    Hey Ben...thanks for the video. I must be the oddball in that I have never had the mindset of seeing if I can run the next run faster than the last. I have been running a long time (50+ years) so am not a newbie at this. My mistakes in running were mostly running hard every run. It took me some time to break from that, but am more of a hard run once per week kind of guy now. You are almost to 100k. Good work.

  • @pennysyogaexperience6959
    @pennysyogaexperience6959 2 місяці тому

    That is amazing to be racing Kipchoge, wow I hope you get a chance to meet and talk to him. I hear he is a very nice man. Big laugh for Mary getting the round number, I do that, I think it is a weird thing humans do. I have been running almost ever day sense 2002. I agree with massage, compression , Ice, weight and mobility training to keep the joints feeling young. My partner and I are going to be in Thailand next year can't wait to run in Thailand. Great Video

  • @brandonkennedy5848
    @brandonkennedy5848 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much the first part of the video is me at the minute keep thinking I have to get faster I hit a good pb in the 5k since then and I now feel burntout does not help that I obsess over running too haha

  • @kevind4383
    @kevind4383 2 місяці тому

    I'm mainly a cyclist and the "PB every ride" mindset still gets me. The problem with this is that my bike still has a simple computer that doesn't detect factors that affect my speed. The transitional seasons up here at 48 degrees N don't let me do more than a few rides with consistent equipment, there's always some kind of back and forth going on. Whenever I try to achieve a higher speed I just end up cycling myself right out of my bike's comfort zone, and that comfort zone changes with environmental/equipment factors.

  • @chloebenn5708
    @chloebenn5708 2 місяці тому +1

    I accidentally got a round number on Saturday! Then the strava tax took it off me 😞
    I need to practice & push myself harder in races, I'm nervous of getting badly out of breath which I find hard to come back from. (& Why I'm a happy slow AF runner now)

  • @wheelielife7754
    @wheelielife7754 Місяць тому

    I love your videos. Thanks. I always wonder if dogs ever chase you, because in Vietnam they chase me. I carry a stick. I'v just started running say 2 months ago and ran my first 5 K two weeks ago. I'm struggling with goals, as I started because of bet. Now want to stay motivated. It helps to have someone to run with I think.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  Місяць тому +1

      Ha ha you know what, I’ve very rarely been chased by dogs but I do stop and walk past every dog because it’s the running that triggers their prey drive. And on the odd occasion they do chase me I turn to face them and stare them down. I’ve had dogs all of my life so I feel like I get them a little bit. It’s all posturing and barky barky rather than genuine wanting to hurt us. Stand your ground. They hate it 😂

  • @amircastilla07
    @amircastilla07 2 місяці тому

    Running along kipchogi is an accomplishment in my book for sure. I would even get a profetional photogoropher for sure.

  • @kenleyojones
    @kenleyojones 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice video. Ive done the pb everytime thing and had to stop after a week or so finding it rather ridiculous. Im curious are you two still finding the tropical weather hard to acclimatize to at times. I moved to the Philippines from the US and i cant even explain how the weather just drains you in no time. Running before the sun comes up or right before it sets is good. After 8am, forget it.

  • @philluke56
    @philluke56 2 місяці тому

    Hahaha yeah tried to beat a particular run, and only 3 years into my running journey and realising strength training is very important 😅

  • @markhill8590
    @markhill8590 Місяць тому

    Was out for 10 months due to training for a marathon....back running again :D safe to say won't make that mistake again.....did my first 10k on Saturday and got sub 40 more than happy

  • @skirtonbear1
    @skirtonbear1 Місяць тому

    Fleet Feet added Resilient Runner to our training-specifically designed exercises, some weights for runners. Those who attended regularly all improved vastly this year-30’s, 40’s, 50’s-didn’t matter-all got stronger and faster in just this year. We’re keeping it for 2025.

  • @rubarb1275
    @rubarb1275 2 місяці тому +2

    The links to other videos didn't show at the end, and it finished a bit abruptly. Was that just me or is that how the video finishes?

  • @3ildcard
    @3ildcard 27 днів тому

    Frankly, strenght training and flexibility is important even "now" and people would absolutely see benefits. Not just 30 years down the road. Especially beginners.

  • @jenglissmeyer7381
    @jenglissmeyer7381 2 місяці тому

    I loved this! Hey, are those your heart rate monitors on your arms? What brand is that and do you find it a lot more accurate than your watch?

  • @ianlaccohee7180
    @ianlaccohee7180 20 днів тому

    I’m 56 & just started “trying” to run again. I go out at 5am before work on week days, but even after stretching I’m pulling leg muscles all over the place. I’m only doing about 2 miles, & because I’m being cautious I’m only doing about 12 min miles. I’m 6ft, around 80kg, & eat a decent varied diet. I go to the gym 4 times a week too, but don’t really have any problems there. I don’t do ice baths, but I have a cold shower. I have the determination it takes to overcome this & move forward, but I’m not sure how best to reduce muscular problems. Just to keep myself in the groove, & maintain the habit of going out early, I still get up & walk the same route, if I feel that I’m not able to run. Any advice would be much appreciated.

  • @Bwebber99
    @Bwebber99 2 місяці тому

    Pocari Sweat you will be right for Tokyo Marathon

  • @stevegraham3041
    @stevegraham3041 2 місяці тому +1

    Strava warriors oooo look at me always going for pb’s 😂

  • @markmacfarlane3169
    @markmacfarlane3169 28 днів тому

    No they don't, I started an 18 week marathon programme from scratch when I was in my 20s and did Edinburgh in 3:04.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  28 днів тому

      I’m assuming you didn’t watch the video then 😂😊

    • @markmacfarlane3169
      @markmacfarlane3169 27 днів тому

      @ThisMessyHappy I didn't need to, the point wasn't ambiguous and was ratified by the first ten seconds of the video saying that it's good that beginners always fail. My response was valid.
      They are just struggling for content angles, which I can appreciate.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  27 днів тому

      Who is they? Do you mean me? You’re literally talking to the person that made the video 😂 my point was that beginners do always fail. If you tell me you made absolutely zero mistakes in your training cycle for your marathon then I’d probably call BS. And a mistake is a failure. And failure is good and absolutely necessary. So yes, beginner runners do always fail. And they have to. To learn. Experienced runners too. Can you tell I’m a teacher? Have a good one 😊

    • @markmacfarlane3169
      @markmacfarlane3169 27 днів тому

      You are on very shakey ground with your abritrary theory regarding the correlation between failure and mistake. That would logically mean that virtually all olympic medalists are failures because all but a few win their medals without at least a tiny mistake. In fact any club runner that fails to reach their genetic potential because they are training like club amateurs is just a lifetime failure due to not training flawlessly like an elite professional.
      You are a harsh coach, you would have made me cry when when I was 26 and I told you I had done 3:04 and you told me that I was a failure because I must have made lots of mistakes.
      I actually refined my arm swing, cadence, posture, picking up my knees etc etc as an intermediate. Like most young beginners I just wanted to push my raw talent at the beginning, it was my particualr path to a successful and fairly well drilled form as per today.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  27 днів тому

      @@markmacfarlane3169 of course, you do t know me well enough, but you are completely misinterpreting me and the term failure. How you view that term is different to how I do. Failure is necessary even in success. And it is also a good thing that must be sought out. A mistake is a failure but in a good way. We actively encourage children to redefine what failure and mistakes are and to not fear them. Actually the evidence is very clear that those who see failure as an ultimate indication of them as a person are the ones that will not reach their potential. Perhaps that was a younger you. I guarantee I would not have made you cry because we would have had a relationship where we can be honest and positive, I have that even with 6 year olds and they no longer fear failure because they know it makes them better. But you don’t know me and I don’t know you. I’m an educator and coach and use pedagogy. It’s not an abitrary theory. I think perhaps your interpretation of my message if flawed but that’s probably because you watched 10 seconds of the video and tapped out. Your choice though. But I’d urge you to rethink how you view the relationships between failure and mistake and also failure and success (all are always necessary and ok). 👍🏻

  • @weevilinabox
    @weevilinabox 2 місяці тому +1

    I've only run one race - a 10k - and I had no sense of how hard to push. I could have run another 5k when I crossed the line.

    • @abbyschwendler1107
      @abbyschwendler1107 2 місяці тому

      I get race jitters and my legs are weak and wobbly. I can never run as fast in a race as I do all alone and relaxed. But I go to races for the fun and the running community.

  • @johndewitte
    @johndewitte 2 місяці тому

    Years and years ago, I tried to be faster every single run. I ended up injuring my ankles, hips, and back. It took me 15, maybe 20 years, before I restarted running. My 5K was as fast-or as slow- as my 10K so many years ago. I still run slowly but I can run farther. it doesn't matter if I run 6min/km or 7min/km or do a speed run at 5min/km. I run, that is what matters.

  • @tompatrick795
    @tompatrick795 2 місяці тому +2

    As an old guy but new distance runner (3 years) I had to ignore one piece of advice to get better at marathon, which is not to do 42.2K in training. Only doing one race per year it was going to take me until I am 80 to figure out what I was doing wrong. I am a very slow learner = stubborn. By doing 42.2 in loops around the safety my house I was finally able to crush my unrealistic ego and know that I have to run easy and I can’t try to sprint until the last few kms.

  • @carolinecornelis40
    @carolinecornelis40 Місяць тому

    I just started running last month because I always said I'd try to run a local 10 miles if I ever managed to get rid of my unexplained joint pain (and I did!), but I'm getting a bit worried about all this carb loading talk I come across everywhere... I CAN'T eat carbs anymore. I haven't really settled into a set schedule for my runs yet, but usually I am getting my workouts done in a fasted state. This feels fine in the morning, until noon-ish when I start to get hungry and feel like I'm no longer at 100%. I can do it, but it doesn't feel as fun as usual. I'd like to sign up for a 5k run and noticed all the start times are pretty late in the day, as well. Does anyone have any tips for how to run mid-day races on a zero carb diet? I think I'm not fully fat-adjusted yet, so my body still struggles a little when I'm asking more from it than just a normal 10k steps walk. I'd definitely SURVIVE, I just also want to feel good while I'm doing it. Lol. XD

  • @Bozziebozz
    @Bozziebozz Місяць тому

    "Like a demented pigeon" 😂

  • @BruceWayne-us3kw
    @BruceWayne-us3kw Місяць тому

    I used to try running fast with every run. Either faster or farther.

  • @timothycook1119
    @timothycook1119 2 місяці тому

    What watch do you use? Can it support C25K without having your phone with you during your run? I am tired of carrying my phone when running. Arm band is too small. I have an android samsung phone.
    Thanks.

  • @CupOfSweetTea
    @CupOfSweetTea Місяць тому

    If a beginner fails, how do we get the advanced?

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  21 день тому

      By failing! Failing isn’t an ultimate thing. It’s necessary on the journey

  • @LJ-ks7vl
    @LJ-ks7vl 2 місяці тому +1

    People that only run or only lifting and no cardio are doing it wrong.

  • @rapssss
    @rapssss Місяць тому

    Why? Because there is a trend of people telling that running is always running. You cannot walk during run training. Simple bs. Running/Marching plan made me a runner. I tried few times before but ended up quickly frustrated.

  • @searaph
    @searaph 2 місяці тому

    I think my biggest mistake when I started running was that I was not enjoying the process

  • @weuek
    @weuek 21 день тому

    For me, the treadmill is an automatic failure. I can't imagine running in a more unnatural way. It's a corruption of the very idea of running.

  • @jumpropestairs6129
    @jumpropestairs6129 2 місяці тому

    you're over the line, sub

  • @stefanoruns
    @stefanoruns 2 місяці тому +1

    Not the best choice of title probably.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 місяці тому +1

      How come?! I guarantee there is no beginner runner in the history of running that hasn’t failed at something on their early journey 😉

    • @stefanoruns
      @stefanoruns 2 місяці тому

      @@ThisMessyHappy Sure enough, but it makes you look like the I-know-it-all snobby guy who is showing off of his recent accomplishments. A different angle would be something along the lines "How to avoid these mistakes WE all as beginner runners did".

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 місяці тому +3

      @@stefanoruns totally take your point and it’s not a bad one at all. But you do have to be a bit provocative and elicit an emotional reaction. For good or bad that’s what the monster wants 😂

  • @JoseSanchez-uj3ci
    @JoseSanchez-uj3ci 2 місяці тому

    Guilty 😅😅😅

  • @scott_strool
    @scott_strool 2 місяці тому

    this title....

  • @kevinclark5086
    @kevinclark5086 2 місяці тому +1

    Do they always fail? Where did all the great runners come from then? 😂

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 місяці тому +1

      They would have failed at some stages in their career! 😉 usually early on and learnt from it

    • @kevinclark5086
      @kevinclark5086 2 місяці тому +1

      @ThisMessyHappy my comment was tongue in cheek. I understand the title of these videos are there to get the clicks. 😆

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 місяці тому +1

      @ ha ha I getcha 😂 hard to tell 😊

  • @ryankan1
    @ryankan1 Місяць тому

    Does ANYONE fail running? Wtf click bait is this?

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  Місяць тому

      It’s not clickbait, all runners fail all of the time and that’s the point. That it’s ok and it’s how you learn. Chill Winston 😊

  • @rodginator
    @rodginator 2 місяці тому

    The advice about not trying to PB each time, then contradicting yourself by saying to push yourself to learn is a bit counterproductive.

    • @ThisMessyHappy
      @ThisMessyHappy  2 місяці тому +6

      In a race, my friend 😊 different topics. Don’t PB every training run. Do experience what it’s like to push too hard in a race 👍🏻

    • @matthewquartermain8291
      @matthewquartermain8291 2 місяці тому +2

      You can push yourself to a reasonable and conservative level to benefit your training without going for a PB every run. Everything is relative.

    • @aapharmacist
      @aapharmacist 2 місяці тому

      If you never push yourself beyond your limit you will never know what your limit feels like. Your limits will increase over time, but your body will feel the same as you approach your new limits. If you don't want to be your best then never push beyond your comfort zone. That is a valid response, but if you want to set an audacious goal then it will require breaking limits you thought were impossible.