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Milwaukee M12 Fuel Circular Saw - Features & How It Cuts! - Best "Little" Saw I have Used 2530-20
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- My Review for the Milwaukee M12 5-3/8" Circular Saw (Part # 2530-20). I have this listed as # 3 in my Top 7/Bottom 3 M12 Tool Video that you can see here: • Milwaukee M12 - My Top...
I was asked in the comments of that video to take a look at this saw, so i decided to discuss the features and show it in action. I use this saw really often for light framing (2x4's Primarily) and it works great for me.
Let me know what you think, or if you have any questions in the comments below. Thanks for Watching!
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Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro
02:52 Saw Features Brushless Motor
03:39 5-3/8" Blade
04:37 Cut Capacity
06:00 Bevel to 50 Degrees
06:41 Left Facing Blade
07:17 Weight & Dimensions
07:48 Light & Cut Guide
08:43 Depth Adjustment
09:38 Changing the Blade
10:59 Saw In Action - Cutting Different Materials
20:21 Final Thought & Outro
I ripped an inch off of three 16’ 5/4 decking boards with the M12 and a 5.0 High output battery and still had 3 bars left on the fuel gage when done. It wasn’t as fast as a bigger saw, but as a homeowner working on my own projects 2 mins doesn’t make a difference to me. I built my entire 32’ by 18’ deck with this M12 saw, M12 fuel jigsaw, a 10” Skil Miter Saw, and an M18 Surge Impact.
I feel the same way as a homeowner/professional. The little extra time doesn’t matter in most cases as much as the weight of a bigger saw over the day.
The M18 Surge is my “go to” on bigger jobs. I have multiple ones that are slightly more powerful, but the sound is worth it to me.
Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Agree completely. As a DIYer, I dont need anything more than the M12 version. Cutting 2x4, 2x8, and plywood with no problem. I can only find two cons. It might be a little light for a circular saw. Some users may want a little heft in their tools for stability. And, the safety release switch is a little odd. My brain isn't wired to push down and squeeze at the same time. Maybe that's by design. I am impressed that a power pack the size of a D cell battery can deliver enough energy to cut so much wood. The efficiency is probably in the brushless motor and the use of a thin blade. No sure if it has an electric brake or brake assist, but the blade does stop spinning very quickly after you release the trigger.
Yeah I love it. Beats lugging the big one unless you need it.
Appreciate you sharing your opinion… helps others make a better decision for themselves 👍
Has electric brake for sure.
It's a good saw I've had mine for years. You are right that for small framing jobs it's great. For everything else I agree it's the rear handle.
It’s always a good day when Captain Awesome agrees with you 😂
I wondered about it when I bought it, but it has far exceeded my expectations. Thanks for sharing 👍
As a newbie handyman looking to expand my tool collection this m12 5-3/8 saw and the m12 oscillating tool is my first purchase in the M12 lineup 👍🏼
Both really good ones… I like both the Fuel and Non-Fuel oscillating tool. Welcome to the world of the Handyman 👍
This video totally gave me confidence to buy this saw! Thanks for the great walkthrough of using it in action!
Your welcome, thank you for watching!
I use this saw for everything. It’s not equal to a big saw, but works for a big percentage of what I need it to.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to make it. As a homeowner looking for my first circular saw and someone that already has M12 batteries, this seems like a great option and the one I'll likely go with.
I really like it and use it professionally for about 90% of my work. You will probably want a bigger batter if you don’t have one yet.
Appreciate you watching 👍
I was a little worried about installing the blade after reading a couple of reviews. But it was amazingly easy. Took about 1 minute. Works great ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c . Cuts easily and is perfect for pocket cuts I needed to make for replacing some old deck boards.
Agree 100%… 👍👍
Awesome review! I really appreciate how you make sure to emphasize that it's not the roughest toughest saw around, but that it has specific uses, and if those uses are relevant to you, then it's a good saw.
You got it 👍
Someone could give it a bad review if you try and rip a 6x6 post with it…
But if you do light stuff in tight places or long periods of time. The size, weight, and power of this saw is pretty good for a lot of things.
Appreciate you watching 👍
I bought that saw and love it. I use it on trim and cutting in some interesting places. And it has a brake. That was one of the other reasons I got it. I use 5 1/2" and 5 3/8" blades on it.
👍.. I grab this over my bigger one way mor me than the other way around. For the size and weight, it’s a great saw.
Thanks for sharing
I have the packout setup on my atvs, truck, and track loader. All setup with the M12 tools, and this is one of the best, the HO batteries give them a extra kick.We own/run live , on a animal rescue military boarding home at 9400 feet altitude in the Rockies,.Rocky Mountain approved and tested !! We also use them in gold prospecting and gold/silver mine workings. Currently building 2 small cabins with primarily M12s with 2.5HO batteries and a few high capacities. Rough work at times, but excellent tools 🇺🇸
That’s a great test case to show it’s usefulness for sure.
Appreciate you sharing 👍👍
Thanks for your video: it helped me decide (after almost a full yea) between the DeWalt 4 1/2 saw and the M12, as those two systems are the ones I use. Being in the woodworking field, rather than in carpentry, I seldom need a circular saw. Mainly, I will use it to cut panels to approximate size and rapidly/roughly dado a construction lumber, especially when framing the unexpected, custom, cabinet, closet or vanity at the very end of a project.
The M12 saw covers best both the worlds of woodworking and light carpentry, because of its blade size and its familiar handling. Also, as a fanatic user of the M12 impact drivers’ line, I know what sort of punch 12vdc can deliver on Milwaukee’s lap.
I will never give a c… if a 12vdc takes 4 seconds more to cut a wide lumber than an 18 or 20vdc, if precision - or the pain emanating from my tennis elbow- are at stakes!
I feel you on the tennis elbow… that’s why I’ve been going to lighter tools when I can as well. Every time I pick up my rear handle saw it’s pretty rough 😂
Glad I could help 👍
I bought a no name, cheap 4 1/2 saw from amazon. And it failed to cross cut a 3/4 plywood in Home Depot parking lot last time I brought it there. The saw just stuck in the middle of the plywood. Great to know this little saw will do it. Thank very much for sharing.
You are welcome… most small saws I have bought in the past perform similar to yours. This has been the best one I’ve used so far.
Appreciate you watching 👍
Highly anticipated video! Unfortunately your video solidly convinced me not to get the M12. Lower number of teeth, fewer available blades, splintering, low power from the smaller batteries are all reasons for me to stick with the M18 lineup.
I really liked how you showed us real world usage, battery level after a few cuts, difference in batteries and informed me to make my own decision
Thanks for the shout out!! Your shop looks like it has an endless amount of video ideas
Glad it helped and that I persuaded you in what is best for you.
That’s the goal behind it all. Just because one reviewer says it’s great, and another says it’s junk…. It doesn’t mean it will or won’t work for you.
All you can do is see how they use it, and how compatible what they do compares to what you do.
I agree that you need to run this with at least a 4.0 but I highly suggest a 6.0. Though you can get higher teeth count blades, this saw is more of a rough construction saw than a finish construction.
I will confess, I am a Tool Addict 😂. Between my garage, office, and truck… it’s a little ridiculous.
Thanks again for the suggestion and taking the time to share your feedback.
Did I at least convince you to get the Rear Handle…😂 just kidding.
It is an absolute beast. Strongest battery saw I have used.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I saw you mentioned and use the Diablo blade for your M18 - how has it been in your line of work? I’d like to be able to cut pipes, do miter joints, slap on a track attachment and work in a compact workspace. I’m thinking my best bet is to get the fiddle bits for the m18 circular saw and invest in the 10” m18 miter down the line. I will be considering the rear handle once I get more working space! The way you portray the ease of use is like how I normally use a drill (if that makes sense)
Oh I’m totally starting to understand the tool hoard.. randomly finding a use for that unused tool is so fun haha
The big clamp you’ve got in your shop that was holding the 2x8 horizontally was interesting
@@MORGANSMaintenance you convinced me to subscribe
@@crappysoup I appreciate that!
I am happy to see he is showing what the saw can do and what it is made for. I have that saw and it is perfect for light duty jobs. That is why I bought it. If I have a project that requires more power then I'll use the 20 volt saw.
You and me are on the same wavelength… it’s not going to rip a LVL beam in half… but it will do a lot of things with such a small weight and footprint.
Appreciate it 👍
That was really helpful. I'm a novice using tools of any kind and I appreciate you explaining about needing a different blade and showing how to change it. Thanks so much!
You are welcome, glad I could help.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍
All of my Milwaukees are M12 Fuel. I've been thinking a lot about purchasing this saw and I must say, your review and video totally sold me on it. Great review with hands on.
Thank you Morgan. Very well made review video.
Thank you.
Thank You. I really like it and it works well for how I use it.
I tried to keep my “liking it” so much tamed so peoples expectations for what it is. It is not a full size saw… but it is a really, really, good small saw that can do a lot a big saw can do.
It does all I need it to, and more than I expected when I bought it. The size and weight are amazing!
Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment. I always appreciate the feedback.
You know bro I don’t know whether to be mad at you cause you made me spend money or thankful that I found a cool new tool to keep in the truck. Great video thanks. This thing is a beast.
Every one of my friends/co-workers wives hate me…. 😂😂😂
I really love this saw. Size, weight, power, and with the Blade on the left side…. Win, Win, Win!
Thanks for letting me know what you think about, that way I know it’s not just me.
Oh I’m getting this one next!!! I do maintenance in apartment complex and just got into the M12 line and this saw looks like a win win for what I do. Basically repairs. Thank you for the info and demonstration
Your welcome. It’s pretty impressive for a 12v saw… most little saws are useless, but I use this quite a bit
I own a Dewalt 12V circular saw and I just picked this up and it's phenomenal. I pair with a 24 tooth Diablo blade 5-1/2 with a 5AH High output battery.
I use the same blades… I haven’t used the 5.0 HO yet but I always run a 6.0 in mine. I need to get a high output and try it.
Thanks for giving your thoughts… helps people know more opinions than just mine.
Perfect for electricians, plumbers, hvac installers to cut blocking, sheet goods or framing in a return box, lighting, I’ve owned the rear handle saw and it’s cool I’ll buy another one at some point to use on big stuff if I need it but this one is all I need as an hvac installer
Yeah I can do about 75-85% of most things I need to do with this one.
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts 👍
I dont have any m12 but that is most definitely a useful tool. I use a Rockwell 4 1/2in circ saw (corded) to rip LVP as well as replacing subfloor because I can get closer to the wall than with a 7 1/4in saw. Great video as always!
Thanks. They have that same Rockwell saw as the place I work primarily. Use it for the same thing (cutting subfloor) and it works great for that.
Always good to hear from you!
I’ve been using the Dewalt 12 v extreme line for a few years now and absolutely love it . All the power i need for everything I’ve asked of it.
The smaller 12v lines in all brands have come a long way in the last few years. It’s nice to get so much power in small, lightweight tools.
I was really hesitant of buying this one but after this video not anymore
This the type of cuts I do with my corded one in the house projects and it’s a pain to get the extension cord every time I need to do just a couple of cuts this is perfect because I didn’t want to jump in the m18 platform just for a saw
Thanks for the great video 👍🏽
You are welcome. I’ve been pretty impressed with it for a 12v saw 👍
One thing I wish they did is make it a 6 inch saw. They totally could have accomplished that in the same form factor. The reason I want that, is because while this thing can 90 cut dimensional lumbar all day, get into any more than a 20° bevel and you don’t have enough depth for 2 by. That forces me to bring multiple tools to jobs that could have easily been done with this one tool. With a 6 inch blade you’d be able to cut dimensional lumbar all the way down to the 50° max. You know they did that so you need to own the m18 and m12. But that’s cool, it’s just another excuse for me to expand not one, but both platforms.
That’s what I said about the new M12 Brad nailer only shooting 1-1/2 nails. I can’t imagine it couldn’t do the 2”, but then who would buy the M18 over the smaller more compact nailer if it did the same thing 😂
I've used mine (with the rip fence) to rip several 60" long, 1.5" thick solid-hardwood desktops & countertops, and while it's slower than a larger saw, it never bogged down.
Yeah as long as you let the saw do the work… it will typically do it. Like you said, a little slower… but it’s a good trade off for the size and weight. (In my opinion)
Thanks for sharing 👍
This is so helpful! Thank you for doing such an in depth review. Already have M12 tools and looking for my first saw. After your review I think this is the one. Thank you!
You are welcome.
As a contractor, It doesn’t do everything I need it to do… but it does way more than I expected at a much lighter weight.
Thanks you for watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
Same here
Appreciate the real deal kind of review. No doubt it's not gonna push as hard but there's a hell of a lot you can do with the thing for what it is
Yeah it works for what I do more than 75% of the time. The weight savings for that much of a percentage is well worth having it.
Appreciate the comment 👍
I’m the same with the blade side, had the regular right sided blade 7 1/4 fuel and now bought the same combo as you with rear handle and this little one. Perfect combo! Have it in lightweight bag with my m12 drill, impact and oscillation tool.
Thanks for the review!
Your welcome. The M12 won’t do everything, but it’s nice not to have to lug around the Rear Handle for what it will do. I will sacrifice some speed for weight.
@@MORGANSMaintenance All day long man, I'm getting addicted to the M12 platform....slowly getting duplicates in smaller/lighter versions of the majority of my bigger tools.....it is so nice to walk into smaller jobs with 50 pound less to carry. Also, I'm a tool hoarder so that counts too. lol
@@DownloaderVideo I’m exactly the same… if I can find an excuse to buy a tool… I’m getting it 😂
Not a Milwaukee user, but I get the idea. You put it very well - the video contains every information a potential user may need. Demonstration parts are on point.
Thank you! It won’t be for everyone, but hopefully it helps them make that decision.
I’m going to have to buy some Makita to review 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance Maybe not buy, but with the channel growing, there may be some opportunities. Sooner or later you will be approached with some sponsorship offers.
There's no point in buying new battery platform just fot one or two tools. If I'm forced to do it, I use battery adaptors for Makita. Although I must be careful with these, because usually they lack third connector, thus there's no overheat-protection from the tool. Besides adaptors don't give you the full experience of the tool capabilities.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I have done that with a few Ryobi tools. I purchased an adapter that works with Ryobi tolls and Milwaukee or Dewalt batteries.
Ryobi has so many odd tools in their line up that are very inexpensive that I buy an occasional one until Hopefully Milwaukee comes out with the tool.
You are right though, you have to be careful using those.
@@MORGANSMaintenance It's is indeed odd when a less professional brand of TTI is more professional that the "superpro" brand. Vide - plunge/track saw. When TTI acquired licence for Ryobi brand, I thought that it will stay DIY brand not cannibalising Milwaukee target-group. Bit many of Robi tools should be in fact M12 tools, and some may be M18.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I know. The Ryobi line up is really extensive and most of their tools are less than $100. I can see why many people would gravitate to it. When they come out with stuff I always think, “why doesn’t Milwaukee have that option”
All the ones I have worked fairly well. I’m not sure how they would hold up with heavy use because I buy them specifically because they are low use tools.
I have the brushed version and I love it for small projects. I can only imagine the brushless definitely going to be upgrading
I didn’t get into the M12 line before this saw, so I haven’t used the one you have. I really like this one though.
The m12 been on my wish list for a while I got the 6 1/2 I do strictly Hvac so it’s so rare when I actually need a circular saw
I use mine a lot. I have it and the M18 rear handle for the bigger stuff.
I bought the 12v Milwaukee from a overstock guy. It's new in a bag. No box and no manual.
Cuts a 2x6 good and it's goes through with no binding.
Yeah I use it all the time for 2x4 and 2x6 framing.
Thanks for sharing. Always helps to hear others opinions in the comments. 👍
I have M18 FMCS for metal cutting and I buy some Bosh blade for wood... Great tool when you on roof... small and light... When I need something more powerfull I have M18 rear handle too...
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That rear handle is a beast… but man it’s heavy. Hard to use with one hand at my age 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance I agree...rear handle is a beast...big dog...
i gravitate to it when having small job. love it
Me too! Glad to see it’s not just me 😂. I’ve wondered if I was the only one to appreciate this little saw.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Looking into this Milwaukee 5 3/8 saw to use up in the rafters and in odd positions I sometimes find myself in. For now, I'm using my Dewalt 60v 7 1/4" circular saw in those tight areas and it gets tiring after 3 or 7 cuts in those odd places. I have a few other Milwaukee, Dewalt and Ryobi tools for their jobs they do very well. Thank you very much for this video...more than enough and well showed what a 4.0Ah battery can do.
Your welcome,,, glad it helps. It’s not as fast as the bigger saw. But it’s light, compact, and will do it… in my opinion.
Thanks for watching 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance I agree with you on that. I plan to keep my 60v for the main tasks on the ground and ripping board. Also, my son is coming of age to where he wants to help with DIY around the home and safety in mind.
@@andyprairiedog4829 that’s good… teach him or you will be at his house later fixing things 😂
Ordered one finally!! My young son and wife will be using it. Cannot wait for it to come in the mail as a "bare tool". My wife already has a few tools in the M12 line with some 6.0 Ah batteries.
👍… It does work better with the 6.0’s in my opinion
Thanks Morgan I’m seriously considering this saw as I’m building up my M12 line. I found your review very helpful.
Glad I can help.. it’s not a full size saw as far as speed and power, but unlike other small saws it is not very far behind.
It is so much lighter though that I will use it every time I can over my bigger ones. To be honest that is probably 90% of the time for me… just depends on what you do.
I wish it was a little cheaper. It’s rare, but every now and then they run it with a free battery or tool. Not near as often though.
I think you will like it. I’m a big fan of the M12 line so far. It’s what I always grab first.
Thanks for watching and it’s always good to hear from you!
I’m also curious what these new M12 High Output batteries may do with this saw. I can tell a difference in my M18 saws when running them.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I just love the M12’s for their portability and light weight. I’m more tinkering and maintenance so it’s not like I frame houses. I have a plug in circular saw if I need to do heavy work but it’s a pain to break it out when I need it for 1 or 2 quick cuts (first world problems). I’m not made of money but the price isn’t too much of a hurdle because I run it through a business. I also save money on batteries by supplementing with the Waitley knock offs. They don’t seem to last quite as long but work well for about 20% of the price. People make fun of me for my cheapo batteries but I’ve got a bag full of spares that work just fine. In my shop I use an M12 3/8” ratchet with only 3.0 ah Waitley’s and they work amazing, no difference in power for me.
@@OShackHennessy I’m the same way with corded tools now 😂. It’s like I’d rather be punched in the face than get an extension cord out.
I usually buy all my tools with “free” batteries and have plenty but that’s good info to know on that brand in case I ever need some. I’ve always been iffy on buying them because I know nobody that has them. But hey if they work… they work.
Awesome little saw for a homeowner.
I really like mine. It’s mixed feedback from others, but I use mine for most of my work. It doesn’t do everything, but it does quite a bit.
Thanks for watching 👍
The M12 Jigsaw and baby bandsaw are also worth owning !
Yeah I have both of those and like them as well.
The Bandsaw is one of the few fuel tools that I haven’t upgraded to Fuel yet. I really like the small size of the original and I primarily use it for conduit, all thread, and uni-strut. It cuts all those so I haven’t had the desire to go bigger. I am sure the Fuel one cuts faster but I haven’t used it.
As a guy that has the m12 line i didnt know they made this one i gotta get it because its lighter and all my work i dont really need big tools to do the job
It’s a really good saw for a small saw. It won’t do everything… but it does a lot for how small it is. I use it for way more stuff than I thought I’d be able to.
Welp you definitely convinced me it's a saw I should have. I don't have the M18 rear handle, but I do have the Makita. It's the last tool I haven't replaced switching over to M18 and M12.
It is a great little saw. It’s obviously not as capable as a full size saw, but it can get a lot of things done.
For most tasks my Rear Handle is overkill and it’s so much heavier… I just prefer this saw if it will do the job. Most of the time it can and I can’t say enough how light this saw is… it’s like holding a drill.
Always good to hear from you 👍
Really love the size of this saw, but it's out for almost 10 years, will wait till a new version.
👍👍… I’d be interested to see what the do with the new one
If it ain't broke ....
My little dewalt saw will outrun that m12 circular saw any time any day of the week rain or shine. I do want a small makita saw to because i have tested the small makita and i do enjoy that one to.
It may, I don’t own any Dewalt 12v tools. I had their 18v stuff back in the day and it was really good at the time… their 20v stuff was disappointing to me so I switched to Bosch and now I run Milwaukee.
Never owned any Makita but I hear good things.
I use mine for cutting overhead with one hand....and it's awesome.
Yeah, the weight is what I love most…
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
at 9:00 mark the numbers on their very tops with a flat sharpie marker to give it contrast against the housing.
Nice suggestion… appreciate that my friend 👍
Xlnt video brotherman. You are very thorough and speak with intelligence. Blessings
I don’t know about the intelligence 😂😂😂
Thanks so much 👍
So since discovering your channel Morgan I’m looking at taking a mortgage to pay for the tools I’ve ordered or have on order and I just wanted to see if it’s acceptable to you to tell me wife you’re to blame for it? Don’t worry- we’re in Hawaii so I’m pretty sure she won’t confront you about it😂🤙
Love the channel though. I’m looking at back surgery soon and all these finds have really helped my mood and cheered me up. Keep up the great work sir 👍👍
Wives (and a few husbands) around the world hate me 😂
I had to make this channel so I can blame all my purchases on it… 😂
Glad to be helpful and pray your back surgery goes well 👍
I have both I use the m12 more with a diablo blade it’s a beast and cuts like butter
Same here… the blade that came with it was not great but the old El Diablo works great.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
Good review! Thanks a lot for showing testing cuts!
You are welcome… thanks for watching 👍
The new m12 high output batteries coming out this month will bridge the gap even further.
I am really interested to see what those do. The M18 High Outputs make some tools a totally different tool.
While this saw definitely needs an update as it's several years old, it does fine for what it is. I use mine for breaking down sheet goods like MDF and plywood for finish carpentry. For blades I use the Norske 30 tooth finish blades. Of course I have a few diablo framing blades as well.
Appreciate your thoughts… I use mine for most of my smaller job site type work. I just used it yesterday with the rip guide to make some OSB spacers for headers, and then for cutting all my 2x4’s. Worked like a champ.
I’m a little curious to see if the high output batteries do anything for this saw. I can tell a difference in my M18 Rear Handle with one.
Would be nice for an upgrade. I’m still waiting on a jigsaw upgrade too. Would like a Fuel Version and also one that the plate locks at 0 degrees a little better.
@@MORGANSMaintenance yeah mine gets used on occasiona along with the other 4 saws I have in the van. I like my DeWalt FLEXVOLT circular saws personally. Rear handle and side winder. So much power.. I also have the m18 6½ which I use for ripping as well. Have a lot of dedicated tools and guides/jigs so I'm not constantly switching things out. I may get one of the HO batteries for the m12 saw but they are really expensive here in Canada. I also can't find the rip guide for the m12 saw otherwise I'd buy one.
@@BrandonContracting yeah I ordered my tip guide from some weird website… I hadn’t seen it available anywhere else.
Dedicated tools are a big time saver 👍
Blade left, thanks for video!
Agee 👍. Thanks for watching!
This video answered some questions for me, thank you.
I picked up a used (yet never used) example recently. It came with that same Diablo blade installed (also unused.) On mine, the lower blade guard wobbles a little bit, something I didn't expect. I am assuming yours doesn't do this.
The C-ring securing the guard appears to be installed correctly in its groove. Doesn't bind up or hit the blade, so I guess I'll leave it be and let it rattle a little.
As for why buy? I'm using M12 where I see a few opportunities for something interesting out of the norm. I was initially interested in a 4" circ saw, like the little ones you see from Dremel, Worx and Rockler. But I wanted it cordless and most of those are not, and represent yet another platform. I've already used once up in the attic my old 7 1/4" Skilsaw, so I know this will be better for that.
I'm already in metabo HPT for their 18v/36v lines, but went with M12 for the Fuel oscillating tool, the stapler, this saw, and am interested in the sprayer and the 3/8" Stubby impact. If I wanted a straight replacement for the corded Skilsaw and didn't need quite its reach, I'd probably go with metabo HPT's 6.5" cordless.
You are welcome.
I really like this saw and you are right… it will get you in some places others won’t. I also like the control I have with it just using one hand.
I haven’t noticed in rattle in mine.. not sure what that could be.
I think you will find this to be an extremely useful saw for certain things… if you use it for what it is and don’t pretend it’s a full size saw, most people think it’s great.
Have a good one 👍
I like left blades to
Most Geniuses do 😂👍
Great review and very informative! Thank you.
You are welcome… thanks for watching 👍👍
With the depth adjustment, you could highlight it with tippex or paint pen or a sharpie
Good Suggestion… will be doing that next time I get it out… thanks 👍
No worries
Damn! I just decided to swap out my old Dewalt with this. Alrighty!
I really like mine. It’s not my only saw so I can use my bigger one the times this won’t do it… but I’m able to use this saw way more often than my others.
The weight of it is super nice. Hope you like it 👍
Ok, just bought this and the Diablo blade. I hear grinding noise when free running the saw, like the bearings are bad. Going to try to exchange it.
They should let you exchange it.
Mine doesn’t make any kind of noise different than any other saw…
That one must have slipped past quality control.
In answer to an earlier question , the M12 Cable stapler weighs in at approx. 5lbs , length : approx 12”, Height: 5 3/4” .
Thank you!
It really depends on how you work but the guys who run light belts and tools almost always have the most energy past noon.
The older you get… every ounce counts 😂😂
Amen. The apprentice at work is bewildered by my M12 tools...There is definitely an image culture of having the biggest chunkiest tools, cars, etc...
I got one, don't even know how it appeared in the cart. But it is great for M12
Thanks for your thoughts. It is hard to believe it is a 12v saw!
I didn’t even hit home the fact that my old worthless little saws were 18v… and this 12v blows them away. It’s pretty amazing the battery tool improvements in the last decade.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm 24, but remember my first drill when I was 8 was a 12v bosch but those batteries were the size of an 18v now and the new age 12v lines blow the old out of the water
@@willhamilton9121 yeah.. I remember those days. 😂. (The big 12v… and 24 years old…)
Good, thorough no-nonsense review. My only gripe is that I wish you had tried ripping plywood with it. I've heard other reviewers claim it is capable in this respect -- my own experience leads me to believe otherwise. I've put up 5/8 and 3/4 " plywood on sawhorses and tried to rip sheets with little success. After about a foot in, or maybe two, the motors whines and then stops. I've been using the stock blade (which sucks by all accounts) and a 4 amp battery. Have I run up against the limitations of what this little saw is capable of, or am I doing something wrong?
The stock blade is garbage… get a Diablo and you will be surprised by the difference. (I was anyways)
I use mine on OSB pretty often ripping for headers but have used on plywood. I always use a 6.0 in mine, but have cut with a 4.0 as well.
Sorry I didn’t think to use plywood in the video. I normally use mine for 2x4’s so 2x lumber was what was in my head.
Typically when I’m breaking down plywood I use my Tracksaw so it never crossed my mind. Thanks for the feedback, it helps me to think about things differently for future videos.
I have the tiny little Bosch mini circular saw - cutting depth 1"/25.4mm. Brilliant, even ploughs through 3/4"/19mm plywood easily then flip to 3mm hardboard - and does dust extraction well - except setting bevel and cut depth is crude and fiddly. Came here after looking at the Milwaukee Installer Kit and Bosch equivalent. I have that Bosch but Milwaukee 18V drill and driver pair with combined charger. Which way to go for the installer? Needed such a tool yesterday and made do with a cheap minimal size right angle bit holder in the 18V drill. But... The whole Milwaukee 12V range looks very useful to get into even if I'm with Makita for 40V. Thanks very much for the review
Your welcome. I have a review for the Installation Driver too.. it’s one of my favorite tools.
Bosch makes good tools… just hard to get in my area.
Great video! I have the m18 6 1/2 fuel circular saw and absolutely love it. The fuel tools are really something else. Looking to upgrade to the rear handle eventually but have looked at the 5 3/8 m12 before buying the 6 1/2. Also have the dewalt atomic 4 1/2 flooring saw and I love it. Definitely try it if your looking for a good flooring saw. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Appreciate it. The Rear Handle is a beast… but it it heavy..
Thanks for the suggestions 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance very true. It’s the only 7 1/4 saw I could get with a left line of sight plus I want the power for cutting hardwoods. But honestly my fuel 6 1/2 has never stalled out or let me down so idk I want to just put it aside for the rear handle
@@scottelia8723 Line of sight is the the whole reason I got the rear handle too…. Also the reason I gave this saw a try originally.
Rear Handle is a great saw, I really like it, I haven’t used the 6-1/2 though.
@@MORGANSMaintenance 6 1/2 fuel is so light and compact. I own quite a few circular saws including a 6 1/2 dewalt and a corded 7 1/4 dewalt (dwe575) and the line of sight of the dewalt is a lot to be desired. Imo Milwaukee wins on the line of sight and the base plate. The power is substantial and a 6.0 battery definitely makes a difference on big rips. The 6 1/2 is the best circular saw I have ever owned. I bet the rear handle is a beast
@@scottelia8723 I make pick up the 6-1/2 if I ever catch a deal on one. It would be a good one to have as an in between for a quick grab.
I got the skil pwrcore 12v with the 4ah battery just as good.
👍… I don’t have any SKIL tools. Appreciate your thoughts
@@MORGANSMaintenance I had two other tool so I just went with it .diy stuff
Agree it’s a great saw!
👍 I really like mine. It cant do everything but it does more than I expected it too. Size and weight is great!
I have the M12 circular Fuel. Built quality is super nice and it's light and precise, but I really think it lack a little bit of power. I think it would work great with 25%-33% more power
Yeah more wouldn't hurt... especially when you get above 2x4 material. I've been curious if these new High Output batteries will help any.
You are right though, it is built like a full size saw as far as shoe, adjustments, etc. They didn't skimp on it.
Appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts 👍👍
Great review Morgan. I like having the blade on the left side as well. I have the regular M18 saw and it does a great job but it is heavy as well for what I do. I think I might head over to the depot today and pick up the m12
It’s super light. I can normally hold wood in one hand in the air and cut it with the saw in the other it’s so light. (Like what I did with the flooring)
I primarily cut 2x4’s with it but use on sheet goods that aren’t delicate cuts (sub flooring, etc). If I am building furniture/cabinet grade stuff I use my track saw.
Thanks for the compliment and for taking the time to watch!
@@MORGANSMaintenance On a side note, not sure if you use the m18 or m12 vacuums but Milwaukee has some new vacuum attachments that work pretty well. Might be a good video idea for you.
@@parts7959 I have the M18 (the one before the Packout Version) and I think I will get the M12 the next time they run it with a free 6.0 battery. I really like how the hose stores inside the M18… I’m not sure if it does on the M12.
I just saw a few Air Tips on a shelf at Home Depot this week while I was looking at the Tool Tray. They don’t have them out on display or for sale yet, but my Home Depot stinks and is always behind.
I’ll check into them. Thanks for the suggestion 👍
@@parts7959 which particular tips do you have?
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have the 3 in 1 crevice and brush and I have the cross brush air tips. The m12 stores the hose like the m18. I bought the m12 when it first came out and they had a lot of problems with it. I’m pretty sure they got those fixed now. Also my neighbor is an electrician and he uses the m18 vacuum for getting wire started for pulling in conduit. He says it works very well
Thanks for the upload.
You are welcome… thanks for watching 👍
Features finally start at 03:00
👍👍. There are chapters in the video
Will take a 5 1/2 blade as well. Sometimes I don't want to send $15-20 for a Diablo blade. Harbor Freight's bauer 5 1/2 30 tooth ain't bad for $6.
Good to know… does it still cut through 2x4’s with the 5-1/2?
@@Jay-sg2ww My brain wasn’t working right 😂. I for some reason was thinking 5/8 instead of 5 AND 3/8…
I appreciate the info. I’m all for having some cheap blades on hand. I cut all kinds of stuff where I am like “this blade will be trash after this”
Thanks again.
I want one but I just don’t like that you can’t cut a 45 on a 2x4. Also idk how much it matters but the sound of it seems like its rattling and like gritty, compared to the smooth sound of the M18.
There are certain limitations for a smaller saw. I would never say it is the only saw someone will need… but it is a good saw for what it will do saving you the weight of a heavier saw when it’s not needed.
I wonder what is a good way to store this with the blades. I've been looking around for ideas and I'm not coming up with anything.
I always have just used the Milwaukee Bags because they work well in my Decked Drawers. I haven’t seen anyone have this in Packout or anything.
My only Circ saw ! Good on 2 by stock , so what if lt takes two passes to cut 4 by stock , I bought the carbide blade for metal square duct , etc !
I think the same way…Most 6-1/2 saws take two passes too, so might as well have a smaller, lighter saw.
I haven’t used any of the metal cutting blades on it. Not a lot of blade selection in store… but tons on Amazon.
Great to hear from you!
Be nice to see it with a new HO 5.0
Yeah, I am very interested in that too. I now I can tell a difference in my M18 saws with a HO.
I’m waiting for Home Depot to run a deal with a tool or something. Mine also only has the smaller ones right now.
No issue with this saw cutting 3/4 inch plywood.
The original blade is made for ripping, but still works fine.
I ordered a Milwaukee 5 3/8 fine finish wood and bought a cheap 5 1/2 Avanti in the meanwhile.
So far the Avanti does a smooth job without leaving marks on the wood.
People that have issues with this saw needs to cut slower and use a HO 5.0 or XC 6.0. this saw was not made for small batteries.
Speed of cut is a big thing in all saws… 👍
Really would like to own this saw as I've already a bunch of M12 tools and batteries but like it was mentioned in this video, the blades are not that abundant. I have a Makita 18V brushless that uses 6-1/2" blades and my HD's carry a lot of those from 18T to 60T.
That is the one downside. I mostly use it for framing so the one Diablo my HD has is what I normally would buy anyway… Does stink to have to order others though.
277kne just commented on here today asking about the Makita 6-1/2 saw… you may could help him out.
The Diablo blade you used in the video is 18 tooth 5-3/8" but the one in the link is 18 tooth 5-1/2"
Sorry about that 🤦♂️. Thanks for letting me know. I have it fixed now.
@@MORGANSMaintenance No problem. I'm curious now... so what is a 5-1/2" blade used in? Thanks.
@@illestofdemall13 I know. I’ve never owned or seen a 5 1/2” saw… there must be one out there somewhere.
Thanks for the video.
If I don't own a battery powered circ saw yet, (I own a corded 7 1/4") and have both M12 and M18 batteries. Would you recommend this 5 3/8" comboed a 7 1/4" or would a 6 1/2" do the job? Use would be mostly for repairs and small projects.
I don’t have a 6-1/2… I have the 7-1/4 rear handle and this saw as my only circular saws and they do everything I need.
The rear handle is nice, but it’s crazy heavy. I mainly got it because I prefer my blade to be on the left, and a normal 7-1/4 is on the right. For that reason I would personally buy the 6-1/2, but it’s obviously not going to get the depth of a 7-1/4. That extra depth rarely comes into play… usually just cutting post and things, so it depends on how often you do that.
Damn.. wish I had this last week when I had to cut through some sidings in tight spaces. Instead had to use the M12 cutoff tool, it totally let me down
Yeah I just got the Cut Off tool about a month ago. I haven’t used it enough to know what I think about it yet.
I love this saw though.
what would be the difference between the m12 fuel vs m18 fuel 5 3/8 saw?
I'm sure the M18 has more power... I think the M18 is also geared for metal cutting with lower RPM's, I'm sure you can cut wood with it, it still has more RPM than the M12.
The M18 5-3/8 had 3900 RPM and the 7-1/4 wood had 5800.
I’m about to take the power tool combo kit plunge. I’ve talked to a lot of people who like the m12 line. The only thing holding me back is this saw’s cut capacity. I really want saw I can use to rough cut 8/4 stock.
Yeah this one won’t do it unfortunately… I’m not sure if I’ve seen any 12v saw that will, you will probably have to go M18 or another 18/20v.
The Milwaukee M18 and M12 Chargers do at least do both. I have tools in both lines. If you want the size of the other M12 tools but get a M18 saw.
@@MORGANSMaintenance
Thanks for the reply. Am I understanding correctly that Milwaukee chargers can charge both battery platforms?
@@joeprior7311 The one that comes with M18 tools can. It has a spot for both the M12 and M18 Batteries. They are dual chargers.
If you buy a M12 Tool with a battery and charger, the charger is smaller and only has a space for a M12 battery
I had one and found it to weak to cut 2x now i use the dewalt atomic little saw that shreads 2x.
ThanKs for sharing your experience. I haven’t had any problems with mine cutting it. It doesn’t cut anything like my rear handle but I haven’t noticed it struggling.
Always good for people to see others opinions 👍
I see that on the Milwaukee website that you can put a 5-1/2" blade on it also. Has anyone tried that so you can get a deeper cut?
I haven’t tried it yet…. But you have me intrigued 🤔
I'd be curious too, just picked this up today
I just saw a UA-cam video on it where a guy put a 5-1/2 DeWalt blade on it so it does work.
@@beotheguitarist I’ve been trying to think of something where I would need the extra 1/8”. I am more excited that it just opens up other saw blades they might have in store.
There aren’t a lot of option for either typically, but maybe between the two there are a few more now.
Thanks again, I appreciate the info.
Will this little guy cut 6061-T6 Aluminum Angle (i.e. 3x3x3/16)?
Why ???? Well I like to use it for corner brackets.
Power wise, I would think so… may depend on what blade you have on but I cut through unistrut and pipe with it.
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@@MORGANSMaintenance
SOLD!
I am thinking 48 tooth Fine Finish Crosscut with a 10mm arbor (Echo Corner).
Can it cut through 1/2” all thread rod?
I have a short showing it cut through metal with a metal blade. Someone asked that.
Can you.. probably with the right blade, but the bandsaw would be better.
Here is the short Can the Milwaukee Fuel M12 Circular Saw cut Metal?
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MORGAN"S Maintenance, have you ever used a Kreg24 in. Rip-Cut Aluminum Circular Saw Guide with that Milwaukee 2530-20???
No, I haven’t used one of those on any saw I’ve had. I have seen them but I have a track saw so haven’t bought one yet.
Sorry
@@MORGANSMaintenance Oh, your all set then, with a Track saw, we are going to build an OFF-grid home soon!!! From cutting down tree's to building the whole house and I noticed instead of dragging a Table saw threw the mud, that Kreg's Rip is so cheap and it just simply attaches to a Circ saw and rip OSB sheets is so easy!!! Latter when we are Dried In the house I will get a Table saw and it wont look like its been threw a muddy war!!! Ha ha ha!!!
@@2point..0 I am wanting to do that as well someday. Good for you!
Yeah we all need two sets of tools… grunt and finish work 😂
I build decks with on the side with a couple buddies. Would this be sufficient for cutting 2x joists, headers, etc? We already have 2 full size saws on site but wanted something smaller since a lot of our cuts end up being in weird positions and without the use of saw horses making the lighter tool appealing.
I haven't cut bigger 2x's in high volume, or pressure treated... but I have cut through a 2x12 standard lumber with mine. It obviously isn't as fast, but it does it. I would definitely recommend a 6.0 AH Battery for it. I have cut standard lumber 2x4 and 2x6's all day with no issues.
I'm also curious how these new M12 High Output batteries will work in it. I know my Rear Handle is a different Beast with a High Output M18.
I really love mine for what you are saying, smaller for access and weight...
Not sure I helped in any way, but i haven't really built a deck with mine, mostly inside framing for me. It has cut way more than I ever thought it would.
Imagine if Milwaukee made a m12 track saw?!? Just something small for sheet goods, without the price of a larger, more powerful saw.
Yeah that would be pretty cool 👍
I've had the M12 fuel saw for several years, mostly using it with a fine tooth blade for plywood. I spent some time getting it very square and parallel to the base so it cuts beautifully.
Recently I got the little Milescraft track for it. The combination works well and is much cheaper than a real track saw.
Off topic question. Where did you get that Houdini spray? I've been looking for that stuff for awhile.
I buy mine locally at a Locksmith. That’s how I came to know about it, I bought it to lubricate locks. I ended up trying it on my tools and never went back.
Lowes used to carry it, but then they quit. Mine did anyways.
They do have it on Amazon but it is more expensive then when I buy it. I usually buy a case of 6 cans, but I want to say it’s about half the price of Amazon. (I haven’t bought any since the world turned upside down though) So if you have a local Locksmith, you may check with them.
Amazon is here amzn.to/3QcO0Jt
I have a video about it too. Hope that helps
Can you put a metal blade on it for strut/emt cutting? It is simliar rpm to the 'metal cutting' m18 saw. I can't find any info about this anywhere
I have never used it for that, always used my bandsaw… but as I ordered some wood blades on Amazon yesterday I thought about getting a metal cutting blade. (They were in the search results)
I may go ahead and order one and I can let you know. It will take however long it takes Amazon to send me one.
Then at least I’ll have a blade as an option if I need it. If I can find one with 10mm arbor or bushing that isn’t an arm and a leg….
Just put up a Short showing this..... ua-cam.com/users/shortsgeZAWkcveMg
I'm considering this and would like to know if you or anyone has considered the
Makita 6 1/2 saw.
Hopefully someone can help you out. I haven’t used any Makita tools for quite some time. They are hard to come by in my area.
I've got the Makita brushless and had the brushed version as well. I use mine with the 6Ah battery and mostly cut ply, 1/2" and 3/4". The M12 would be a better tool in that it's lighter and the 6Ah is $50 cheaper in my area than the Makita 18V 6Ah. The one drawback of this M12 are the blades. I use a 60T, 6-1/2" blade in my Makita most of the time and can pick those up from HD anytime I need a new one. I have three HD's close to me and none of them carry the 5-3/8" blades.
Will this cut 2"x4"s at 15 degrees?
Just tried it to make sure. 15 degrees, yes. 20 degrees is the point there it starts leaving just a fuzz.
That’s on a pine non-pressure treated 2x4
@@MORGANSMaintenance Thanks man I appreciate you checking
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Isn't this light enough for trim work? I'm currently using the dewalt xr 6 1/2 and it's pretty light.
It’s really light. I don’t know what trim you do with yours… depends on how important finish is if you can get a blade with the teeth you want.
Home Depot has a really good deal on this saw today with two 6.0 batteries… Today only though.
@@MORGANSMaintenance wow, fast reply TY. I'm going to check out HD.
@@Jesse-gv9tf it’s online only too… Home Depot deal of the day.
www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12V-Li-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-5-3-8-in-Circular-Saw-and-Blade-with-Two-M12-6-0-Ah-Battery-Packs-Charger-48-59-2462-2530-20/317064961
This video isn't that old. I've seen blades for this saw that have more than 18 blade teeth on it.
Yeah you can get all sorts of different teeth count. What I meant is you can’t just go to a store usually and pick up whatever you want… you sometimes have to order them.
That’s my local stores anyways.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Ahhh okay I see what you are saying now. My bad.
I get that tool in today actually. I can't way to make my new TV stand.
@@luiscastaneda1190 it’s a great saw in my opinion
@@MORGANSMaintenance Enjoyed your video. Thank you for the heads up. I don't think I will need it for 2x4s/6's/8's/etc. but Nice to know it can hand that material. I have my rigid sliding saw for that so I should be good as far as smaller wood material..
😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
Appreciate it 👍👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance new fuel version is hitting stores with a discount from $159 to $99 for q3 promo💪💪💪
@@tedmcdonald3377 I may have to try it… I’m not sure how much better it’s supposed to be
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm not either, but I have noticed that the new fuel versions have been quite a bit more powerful than the old brushed versions💪💪💪
@@tedmcdonald3377 I went ahead and ordered one this morning… we will see 👍
Too bad I'm left-handed...
Yeah if I was left handed, I would get the M18 7 1/4 non rear handle
If you can see the blade while cutting, the blade will throw more sawdust up into your face.
I know… it makes me feel like a man 😂.. just kidding.
It’s true, but I’ve just always preferred that way.
extremely weak saw, i know is only 12v but if you can't make a decent saw out of 12v why make it to destroy the whole Milwaukee fuel line up?
I use it all the time with 2x4 framing and really like it. Makes me only have to use the heavy rear handle when I have to. It couldn't be my only saw, but im glad I have it.
You claim the dewalt will not compare,,,,,,,prove it…..
I don’t remember claiming that…
I did mention all the older small saws I had in the past were useless. (One of which was a little 18v Dewalt)
I’m sure there are other newer tools that will work just as well… tools, especially 12v has come a long way.
I cut through 12” concrete with my teeth
😂👍👍… it didn’t make sense till I read your name
Ah man, I’m just bitter you got me to spend $250… truth is it’s a beautiful saw and the only 12v that can do a clean shave on my beard…