Hurts & Barkley, Stroud & Mixon, Jackson & Henry: Debating the best new QB-RB duo 🏈 | First Take
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Hurts & Barkley, Stroud & Mixon, Jackson & Henry: Debating the best new QB-RB duo 🏈 | First Take
On First Take, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo, Domonique Foxworth and Kimberley Martin debate new QB-RB duos, along with the pressure for Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins.
0:00 Best new QB-RB duo?
6:27 Wilson or Cousins under more pressure?
10:10 How far can the Falcons go with Cousins?
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Saying ATL expectations are SB is CRAZY😂😂😂😂
I don't think it's realistic right away but I think best case scenario could put them close to the super bowl. year 2 they should be heavily in that convo
It’s first take😂 that’s thier expectations
The obvious answer is Lamar and Henry.
Fear the Flock
??? Lamar is never winning a SB. No leadership skills. Also, this Eagles duo isn’t any better.
@@knockout9446what does the SB have anything to do with this question? You just woke up and felt like irrelevantly hating
@@knockout9446Very ignorant of you to say kid. If Flowers didn't fumble the ball, they could've won the Super Bowl..That is not Lamar's fault.
@@knockout9446You can knock LJ for some things, leadership isn't one of them. Stop trolling
“I’m not here to take a quiz” 🤣🤣🤣🤣been a min Fox
The should stp bring kimberly!!! How is she a analysis
@@jahmanihenry7513 Stephen A likes her on the show so I don’t think they’ll stop her from coming on
the ole Greg Cote move
A fellow Lebatard listener, I see
lol females should not be on sport talk shows😂
No Lamar and Derrick Henry is best new duo
That’s 2 RBs.
Lamar and Henry. I like Allen and Cook too.
Allen and cook aren’t a new duo.
James cook is no henry
Best new duo? You guys wont even let them perform first to analyse that question further? I swear ESPN has no weight to their analysis anymore than a toddler.
wild speculation = views
Let’s not forget Baltimore has been the #1 running attack in the league for years and yet just obtained the most dominant runner in the past 7 years. How in your right minds do you not believe the Ravens with that duo are in the best situation to have the best season?
Cause people hate us and don't want Lamar to win for some reason.
@@Zack_410oh I can tell you the reason as a ravens fan is a very particular reason why people don’t like Lamar lmao
Agreed and people are forgetting Henry was #2 in rush yards with one of the worst o lines last year.
@@Zack_410 quit the sob story the whole U.S was rooting for yall amd watched yall wet the bed on national tv try again in 10 yrs🤣🤣🤣 👌🏽
@ItzAChin it was the worst graded o line last year
Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs is the underrated QB-RB duo
Definitely.
Keep yo eyes up boi
2:08 = How we all feel when she starts talking
She been the baddest one on ESPN for the last 2 years
Foreal
You see em tho lol 10:12
Hahaha
The running back wasn’t the problem when Philly imploded last year.
You don’t no this team chill
Saquon isn't going to come anywhere close to getting the yardage they think he'll get. Now that he got paid, he's going to disappear for stretches and miss games because he's feigning injuries.
@@keem2153don't "no"... That's rough 😂😂
@@RobbieStacks90 Saquon if anything will be motivated to ballout now that he’s in an offense w/ a great O-line & other weapons around him.. life will be easier
All new coaches
FIRE KIMBERLY MARTIN
She might have legitimately the worst and most arrogant and dismissive body language of any human I've ever seen
Facts, she's so stupid, but espn likes stupidity..
Fire Christine Williamson
Molly Rose with those questions too.
Facts, Kimberly Martin is straight up trash, she doesn't have a clue about what she's talking about...
“I’m not here to take a quiz”😂😂😂😂😂😂
He so tired of her 😂😂. Leave all that “you’re wrong” energy at the door !
Realistically, Jackson is a better quarterback than Hurts and Henry is a better running back than Barkley. One is a 2x MVP and one has had a 2000 yard rushing season. It's not close
Facts! 👍
Just Speaking for myself Jackson is not a better QB then hurts you must be dreaming because the ravens are not a good team
@@StacyMarshall-wh5qq "ravens are not a good team" and yet they had the best record last year and almost went to the Superbol while the Eagles had a historic collapse. Lamar isn't better than Hurts and yet Lamar is a 2x MVP
@@StacyMarshall-wh5qqyour cope is crazy 🤣
Kimberly gotta take off that Wig 😂
Ravens had the best rushing offense last season and now have added one of the best RBs in the NFL. Anyone who doesn’t pick Lamar & Henry as the best duo is on percs
Exactly. This is what I call typical anti-Charm City bias.
2:06 hello darkness, my old friend
Lamar and Henry: Are we a joke to you?
It's Lamar and Henry it's not complicated.
Clearly Lamar and Henry but media and fans hate us.
Love & Jacobs!?!?
Low key a downgrade from last year. Aaron jones was a beast
@@micah4494 no its not yall tripping. I watched every snap of AJ's packer career and at his best he was never on josh level never. And any packer fan who tells you different is blind love aj but this is an upgrade in many ways
As a Texans Fan, I would say Stroud and Mixon....but realistically I got to say Hurts and Saquon...
Patrick + whichever WR they give him
And im positive about thr Mahomes Rice duo next season
Ya they good for about 20 check downs a game😂
They should draft Ladd McConkey or one of the Texas boys
LJ and DH is already giving DCs nightmares. I don’t play madden anymore but I know all the madden heads are already thinking about that. Hurts and Saquon will be tough too.
can’t wait for saquon to play 11 games, avg 3.7 ypc, and get bounced in the second round
Jackson and Henry
Malika lookin fire
Well it’s Mahomes and Pacheco since Mahomes is in his own league
Losing Kelce is going to affect them more than anyone thinks. Linemen get no respect.
You have Lamar and Henry…HOW IS THIS A QUESTION
The Falcons are not expected to make it to the superbowl 😭
The Philadelphia Eagles are loading up.
I like it!
Lmao them twins tho
Hurts isn’t as good as Lamar and Barkley ain’t better than Henry so how is this a question
Lamar does not have the eagles offense
everything they are saying about eagles is exactly the same for the ravens if not more.. fire kim bro
Love+Jacobs
is it just me or is it hard to listen to Dominque Foxworth voice? Then its just hard to listen to Kimberley, she be extra sassy. I wish I would be on TV and get questioned but then try to answer just to get cut off
Love-Jacobs
Patrick Maholmes and Isiah Pacheco is the best Qb and Rb combo lmao
It’s Lamar and Henry 😭
As an Eagles fan I think the biggest thing about signing Saquon is that he’s a 3 down back. Nothing was worse over the last few years than seeing one of our most explosive players come off on 3rd down because they weren’t good blockers, route runners or catching the ball. Having your best player on the field on the most important down is going to be huge.
So Andrew Luck didn’t come to mind?!
What the Ravens have done which is have the #1 rushing attack in the league over the past five years is incredible because other than 2019 with Mark Ingram, they have not had a true franchise RB. Now they have one. You throw King Henry in there with Keaton Mitchell, plus the threat of Lamar either running or throwing (He had by far his best season as a passer in terms of completion percentage and passing yards in 2023) this will be a matchup nightmare, especially if they end up signing Mike Williams as well.
Every year yall say the Ravens gon do something…its getting old
@@fyilando854 I know its getting old, but let me put it this way. This was the same narrative that was ushered by football fans and the media back in 2012. Before that Super Bowl, they were massive chokers as well. The point I'm making is that the NFL is the great unknown, and even if it's been predictable in terms of who the Super Bowl Champion is now, it was not set in stone back in December.
@@michaelhession2105 bro it was definitely set in stone. I knew Mahomes was gon win again regardless of media narratives.. and I also know Lamar is not as great as people make him out to be. He had 29 TOTAL touchdowns and got over the 3000 yard mark because of the last 3 games. Not hating just stating facts. The Ravens defense is the reason they got that far this year not Lamar. they held teams to 10 points!!! all year lets be real here. they held MAHOMES to 0 points in an entire half and Lamar still couldn’t get it done
@@fyilando854 29 touchdowns when you look at it, it's good but not great. But that doesn't begin to tell the story. The reason that total was where it was is because Lamar made the decision to trust his running game inside the red zone instead of forcing things. If he cared so much about his stats, he would have gone over 40. He won MVP because of how much he matured as not only a pocket passer but as a playcaller. There were times last year when he called on his own plays and was making more audibles last year than any previous season combined. That and he made everyone else around him better. On paper, the Ravens have the worst offensive skill players in their own division, but he elevated all of them in key spots.
@@michaelhession2105 he won MVP bc of team record. He played average this year .. Stop hyping up mediocrity. 24 Passing touchdowns and 3,000 yards is an MVP?? nah
Yeah ... I'll take Jackson and Henry. If we write the RB spot off as a wash, do you want Hurts at QB or the two-time MVP. This whole motivation BS ... both RBs are going to be motivated neither previous team seemed to want them. And all of them are going to be motivated because they all want to win a Super Bowl(s).
She know what she’s talking about
Hurts and Barkley isnt even close
I hate to admit it, I hate myself for even acknowledging it, and I’m not saying they’re the best combo but I think deserves to be mentioned is Love and Jacob’s. They should be a formidable duo. A. Jones was good but he wasn’t Jacobs. Plus now he has a chip on his shoulder and he joins Love who took his team to the 2nd rd of the playoffs in his first season as a starter.
Mhmm someone started the segment with a good question… I think Jalen- Saquan is just as dominant as Lamar- Henry!!! The better question is who’ll be more healthy when playoffs arrive!!!! I’m enjoying this recent acquisition of Kirk in Atl but if he don’t display the level of play he had on the MV, the falcons will be searching for a replacement after year one.☝🏾
The weakness of Philly's offense? As a Eagles fan that's simple. Last year it was the OC. That was our weakness.
If I have to rank the duos in nfl
1. Lamar / Henry
2. Mahomes / Pacheco
3. Purdy / CMC
4. Stroud / Mixon
5. Hurts / Barkley
6. Allen / Cook
7. Rodgers / Hall
8. Love / Jacobs
9. Stafford / Williams
10. Watson / Chubb
There’s a few more duos that could mix in there too this season like Atlanta, Detroit & Indianapolis
Tua /Mosert/Achane
Pacheco hella underrated
Hurts and Barkley below Purdy and Stroud? That's cap
@@lordlubu3029 Purdy & CMC were both mvp candidates on the same offense. That alone could make an argument for them being even higher tbh so I’m definitely taking Purdy/CMC over Hurts/Barkley… & Stroud is better than Hurts.. while I think Barkley is better than Mixon I don’t think the gap between them is as big as the gap between stroud and hurts. So I’d take stroud and Mixon over them also… but Hurts/Barkley could definitely move up the list. We’ll see
@@debomyguy I was thinking of putting them somewhere towards the end but I can’t figure out who their lead back will be this season. They might just have a few guys in rotation again so I couldn’t name a specific QB/RB duo for Miami.. but if I had to rank rushing attacks I’d have them in top 5 for sure
Like them both, Herby and Barkley but Henry been less injured.
2:26 She is so right💯🔆👑🔆💜💚 fly EAGLES Fly
10:12 look at Foxworth look at them tittise 🤣🤣
Lamar and Henry are like their bigger brothers.
Cj Stroud is what everyone claimed the Jags were getting in Trevor Lawrence.
DeVante Paker will be a force with us too
Jackson & Henry y'all tripping
People gotta relax on the falcons they should be the nfc south favorite now but my boy bakeshow got something to say about that lol
“I’m not here to take a quiz.” Thank you for shutting down Kim’s drawn out take.
Lamar can win a big game by himself with a struggling running game, Henry can win a big game by himself with a bad passing game, Shaquan can’t do that, Mixon can’t do that….very simple!
Whoa Fox just literally skipped over Cam
Jordan love and Josh Jacob’s
Russ an Kirk expectation is the playoffs
Don’t forget cousin and Bijan and Tyler I know
I rather have Purdy and CMC
To lose in the Super bowl 😹
@@jsav7678 at least they make the Super Bowl. They made it in Purdys first year as a starter, what do you they are going to do when he gets better 🤣🤣🤣
@@erikarechiga2759there are at least 5 teams in the afc that would’ve made a superbowl in the nfc recently but they didn’t in afc because of Mahomes. Purdy and cmc are lucky that they don’t play chiefs before superbowl and instead, play in a weak conference with no talent.
Domonique looking like, " she does not know what she's talking 'bout, especially dissin' Cam Newton last month!" Oh, I like Mad Dog's Raven's duo of Henry and Jackson more! Eagles need an offensive coordinator. Nice team with no screaming, cursing, or insulting! Oh, Stephen A. NOT in the house.😗
Fox worth gonna skip over Cam as a rookie?? Wild… and I’m an Eagles fan.
Falcons like the eagles need to address the defense.
They need to have Shannon on here all week !
How tf is Russell Wilson not the Starter with that HORRIBLE QB position in Pittsburgh????
First time I agree w Dominique cj that dude
Eagles still need to address the defense.
A million times better when he doesn't yell
what about henry and RICARD coming at you tho😏
It will be Hurts & Barkley they gone both go off this year watch 🔥🦅
3:51 did you not watch Justin Herbert rookie season
Who’s the best duo
SKIP and UNC?
Stephan A and UNC?
OCHO and UNC???
If MD says "right", go LEFT!!!
Whatever WR the Chiefs get in the draft. Him, Rice and Mahomes.
Not an eagles fan but the super bowl clock is ticking LAMAR
Kirk Cousins got the money but has 1 career playoff win. End of discussion lmao
Obviously is My Eagles .....Hurts n Barkley
😬😬😬🦅Hurts cap hit Next year 21 mil. The next 31 mil. The year after 47 and it’ll be pushed again loHowie szn LETS GOOO! 🦅
Kimberly has the exact same cadence every time she speaks… sounds like she thinks she saying something deeply profound but it falls flat each time.
Will be Tomlin's last year in Pittsburgh.. after another disappointing year russ fangirls will swarm him and make him the new scapegoat smh..
it’s obv lamar and henry , saquon can’t play a full season to save his life
AR and Taylor
Falcons ain’t doing nothing this is a joke right. Kirk just had 6 years of having Diggs + Thielen + Jettas and now he getting Drake London and Darnell MOONEY😭😭😭
She was talking nonsense on this one. Nobody expects the falcons to win to or even get the Super Bowl. The expectations are to win the division.. that’s it
Won’t have to game plan against Barkley he’ll be injured most of the games
Lamar & Henry; then Love & Jacobs
Every time the girls start talking logic goes out the door and I get uninterested lmao.
She just didn't get straight to the point . But I do understand what she saying . I think eagles helped the morale by paying saquon and he's a hometown kid
Their sassiness is so cringe lol
I love the Mad Dog! So much better than Stephen A. Smith!!!
😂 good luck Kellen Moore hates running the football
Hurts n Saquon best duo
BigBen! Foxworth, Big Ben had the best rookie season of all time! Can’t believe these commentators don’t point this out more
You must be joking! He was riding the back of a great team. He was the weak link of that team.
He had 2600 total passing yards and didn’t even make the pro bowl.
She is very wrong. Pressure is all on Russ here… Kirk does have to produce but he just got $100Ms! He’s good and will be the starter in 2025 no matter what.
Russ plays bad, he is a permanent backup and never seeing another bag.
Everyone’s goal is to win a Super Bowl. She’s kinda air headed when she thinks she right. No one can talk to her.
Hurts and Barkley 💯
disrespect to Anthony Richardson & JT is crazy
Yeah I agree he's a close second... Colts fans, Texans fans and jags fan can probably all agree hand's down its lamar and henry duo the best by far...
Kirk has literally never gotten his team anywhere in the playoffs, now all of a sudden he’s supposed to be the key to a SB run for Atlanta who barely survived in a weak division? Yea I’ll take Russ on a competent Steelers team any day
It was literally the weakest division lol