As the politicians has weaponised poverty, MOG have done the same with their congregation, using prosperity. I recently left the RCCG as a deacon because of many abnormal things, especially the imagery thing. I have gone back to the Anglican Church, where as a member I have access of the financial standing of the church and who is to be posted as a priest. Sir, we have to call out these excesses in the body of Christ, its called chastisement. However, we should do it constructively as you have said. God bless you
Thank you Dr Apoki for your wisdom in this matter. Many people are looking for “saviors” not Jesus, once they discover the person they thought is their savior is not able/ ready/ willing, they start crying. Most church goers today are worshipping GOs & money. People need to start using their own brains, we are all responsible for our lives. Once money gets involved in anything, trust me, you must be extremely careful.
Sir, you spoke with an awesome wisdom. It's unfortunate that most people attending church are not christians. They are overwhelmed by the imagery of their daddy GO and so they're not intuned to the Spirit of God. I remember very well that in most of the SOLEMN ASSEMBLY coordinated by the RCCG GO, he has always downplayed himself and exalted the person of Jesus Christ. This attitude informed why he never allowed his picture being displayed on RCCG sign post..... In the area of not permitting outside preachers to preach on RCCG platform was largely due to the abuse most external preachers have exhibited on RCCG altars which contradicted the Mission's and biblical doctrines......
Politics here to cover a business venture. Can we be honest once for life!!!. All the GO kids are also called by God , every one of them is already planting a replacement. This is where we find ourselves, let's accept it. The people have been cowed and no justification for such!!
Adeboye can't allow his pictures to be shown on the RCCG signpost in their programs because he is not the founder of RCCG. If he were to be the founder of RCCG he would have gladly allowed it.know this .
Thank you sir, I am a member of RCCG and I say it on my channel all the time that people shouldn’t leave their brains at home when going to church. Everyone will give individual account.
You're on point sister IT. We need to reason out what we're told in the Church to see if it aligns with what Christ taught us. No doubt, God really used Doctor to explain the issue and left for those that hath ears to hear what the Spirit (through Dr.) is telling the church. This is not a time for arrogance!! Thx
Dr. Apoki, I recognise you face very well. I have met several times at UI. But are belittling your personality by bringing and defending religion. Moreso, we have many barbarian in the social media
Thank you Dr Charles Akpoki. You have said it all. I pray we learn from all you have said. God bless you abundantly and mY God continue to increase your knowledge.
Hi Doc, I appreciate your common sense moderation over the whole saga playing out today. The stage for this has been in preparation for a long time now. This storm according to prophecy will blow itself out, and will be followed by the calm of reconciliations, forgiveness, holiness and a mighty manifestation of the glory of the Lord. Its called the"Church civil war" by Rick Joyner in his book, "The Final Quest". Late John Jackson called it the " The Perfect Storm". Relax Doc, God is in control.
Oghenebruyokevwe. You've spoken very well. Christians were admonished to study to show themselves approved as workmen who need not be ashamed, but rightly dividing the word of truth. Unfortunately, the majority of Christians today are suffering from the deffect of ignorance. We worship our pastors, giving them the place of God in our lives. And to the pastors, instead of God to go higher while they go lower, they're hellbent on going higher at the expense of Christ. At the end of the day, the question to ask is, were they truly called or they came into the calling with the intention of making money and becoming gods of men?
Thank you sir for this. You have been very mature in your advice. I pray they hear you, both the members and the general overseers and not continue the current trend.
Well said. I wish this video could go viral. And I wish the respective quarters will listen and heed to it for healthy spiritual, individual and societal growth.
the responsibilities of the believer in Christ are many and varied. We are called to love God and others, to share the Gospel and make disciples, to live a life of holiness and purity, to serve others, and to be good stewards of all that God has given us.
@@OlumideSimeon-e2gYes, No One, But When Someone That Has A Larger Than Life Image Like Oyedepo And Adeboye Telling Their Congregation That "If You Don't Pay Tithes You Won't Make Heaven" What Do You Call That? Subtle Pressure Mentally. That's More Damaging And More Effective To The Human Mind. Yes They Don't Openly Force You, But For Someone Like Oyedepo Saying "We Have Never Borrowed For All Our Multi Billion Naira Projects Because We Are Faithful Tithers". What Do You Call That?
Sir, you have nailed it hard on the head. I hope we Nigerian Christians understand you and make some adjustments and follow Christ indeed. Serve God the right way. Salvation is key. Repentance is key. Looking for miracles will not take us to heaven. It is holiness that is the ticket to heaven. We only need to seek the kingdom of God and the rest, will be taken care of by Almighty God.❤
No system is perfect. Since RCCG is not perfect, the woman in question can start her own ministry and run it perfectly. My opinion .I respect you sir. God bless.
@@belovedflorence4109 Thank you o! How do we get justice for victims of Church Leaders and systems wrongdoings if we say nothing? The Bible tasks us with getting justice for the oppressed. There is currently an a former Choir Leader languishing in police detention courtesy of a Daddy G.O. because of his association with another ex-member (who the GOs Church branches abroad and member had sued for defamation) despite a court order in place that he must not be arrested or detained while his Human Rights breach case against that G.O. is ongoing, and a further order that he be released. On the other hand we have someone who would be termed a Pagan who allegations of Murders were publicly made against who simply released a Public Statement denying any involvement in Murder and said he would not be going to court for the sake of unity. The 'Pagan' is more Christlike than Daddy G.O!
Thank You sir!! Majorly,This is One of the Reasons why people especially the Youngees (Gen z )Don't Believe in God...Generally speaking People who criticize The system Make it Difficult for People to actually Believe in christ.. I mean No Matter How The Church is, It's literally The same God we are serving...I am not saying people shouldn't talk But I mean..This Is a Free World....But we should be careful or we might end up being an Antichrist!!
He said Adunni spoke mostly in Yoruba in her videos which is true, he didn’t say she doesn’t speak English. This is part of the things we are saying, listen well .
@@NOHOLDSBARREDWITHIT what is the part of the thing you are saying. If he watches Adunni video regularly rather than coming across the one he claims, he spoke in yoruba, he will know he combines them together
@@olaosman2574Yes She Speaks Well In English, But In The Particular Video The Narrator Must Have Watched, She Expressed Herself In Yoruba. Don't Start An Argument Over That.
Dr Charles Greetings! I respect some of your comments. However, your other points of emphasis i do not agree with you for the following reasons: 1) Just look at the current state of affairs in Nigeria with all the churches there. Isn't it in a real mess? 2) When are the likes of yourselves going to come to the realization that the elders of faith in Nigeria have failed an entire generation? 3) People are speaking up because they want things to change. The pulpits have been corrupted by lies, manipulation greed and self-centeredness not to forget to mention the policy of mass ordination of the uncalled in many of the Nigerian churches!. 4) Since when has the gospel become a franchise? 5) Would you say that the majority of the Nigerian churches are serving Jehovah or Mammon ? 6) Do you expect people to remain silent in face of such corrupt and spiritual decay? 7) What has Pentecostalism brought to Nigeria in the last 40 years? Has it raised a holy nation for God? I come in peace!
It's a responsibility for all of us to contribute to the development of society. I will be glad to hear your voice and contributions to this discussion. I have done my little bit.
@DrCharlesApoki has addressed this issue well. The bottom line is that Christians should know God for themselves, bitter criticism does not help the kingdom of God because two wrongs do not make a right. So the more we seek to have a personal knowledge of Christ , the less offenses and deceptions will exist and the better the kingdom of God will thrive
@@chidinduariwodo8230 I gave him 0/10; he has spoken big english with both sides of his mouth. No, I do not come in peace! It seems like the gigantic human suffering she is alluding to just skip over his head! Why would he care? I am not a practising doctor, but the Hippocratic oat is always at the back of my mind while I am doing anything with patient. I don't know this kinds of Nigerian doctors that human suffering just doesn't move them. If he is the best we got, we are screwed in that country!
To the best of my knowledge, there are other religions in Nigeria. Why are you putting the whole responsibility on the church? Did you also lay similar blame on the other religions?
@@diplomatdiplomat2800 None of these religions is squat free! But, we removed our own log before focusing on other people. This is not a simple case of people not knowing their catechism, this is problematic to the core. There is no way these Pastors can talk their way out of this. This is huge, and it has been going on for long.
The church in Nigeria has denied Christ. The evils in the church should be exposed outrightly without consideration for any personality be it Adeboye or Kumuyi or Oyedepo. Whoever covers their sins becomes a sinner
It will be difficult for them to change Sir. As the message as always been on how to rip innocent people off their wrong teaching of the gospel. Manipulation and hailing one person as God. If they change, they will go broke.
You are very correct MOD, if only the christian leaders would disciple people and lead them to Christ rather than themselves. God has called us into a one on one relationship, but led by his servants the pastors. But they have become demi gods
Whether we like it or not! Religion is part of Nigeria's problem! A lot of people are in bondage! In Africa, pastors make themselves gods. You have it here 5:40!
Sir, I bless God for your wisdom and I pray the Almighty God reward you in Jesus name. Much as almost everything you said was in order and right, however, there's an area of great concern. This is the point you described those complaining or calling out the men of God in question as attempting to destroy a "structure" or system that once beneffited them which is akin to a case of a jilted lover. Sir, with due respect, i disagree with you on this analogy for the following reasons: First, you cannot beat a child and expect the child not to cry. These GOs cannot cheat or maltreat the sheep under their care and expect such sheep not to bleat! In actual fact Yeshua (Jesus) did not mince word when he warned in Matt.18:6 that anyone who causes any of these little ones to stumble (baby chritians) is better thrown into the depth of the sea with a big stone around his neck! It is this wicked ways of ministers that was reported in Rom 2:24 that it was because of people like these (our GOs and Bishop) that make gentles speak evil of the name of God and not the disgruntled members who are victims of their wickdness. Sir, the problem is with the cause/aggressors (pastors) and not the efffect/ aggreived. In same vein, i do not believe the critics or victims of our pastors' misdeeds are capable of destroying the works of God perhaps that's what you meant by structure because Christ in Matt. 16:18 already assured us that He would build His church (believers) and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it (us). Therefore, I want to say it not the reactions of victims of our pastors's ungodly behaviours that will drive others away from coming into the fold, rather it is the deeds of our fathers in the lord reflecting on thier members that will determine whether we win more souls or scare them away! Also recall there's no account of anyone who ran to Yeshua (Jesus) or the Apostles for help that went back worse than they were aside the unbroken rich young ruler who inquired about the kingdom. Therefore, when the shepherd begin to prey on their flock or sheep instead of praying for or protecting them from predators, then they deserve whatever backlash that come across their path. The only thing is not to insult or curse them. But it is order for the aggrieved to call these fathers of faith out for thier actrocites, lies, deception and shenanigans on the pulpit (like Apostle Paul did to Peter) lest more innocent people fall victims of thier hypocrsy, double standard, wickdness. Our elders say if a man that brought home faggot infested firewood should not complain when lizards begin to pay him a visit. I'm sure you'll agree with me that whatever a man soweth, that he shall reap. These GOs cannot be raising shallow minded and scripturally deficient believers and expect them to display the faith of Job in time of adversity when they lack the true knowledge of God to see them through; no thanks to these same men of God who deprived them of such direct relationship with God! To put it simply, they cannot be brainswashing their members and expect them to display strength and spiritual maturity or resilience during difficult time; no sir! Because you cannot give what you don't have. Thanks once again for display of godly wisdom Shallom!
The Church cant be perfect in the eyes of people. There will always be schism here and there. But in the eyes of God she is perfect. We are in the age of knowledge and general enlightenment and things like this are bound to happen. Love for God and our fellow Brothers is the key. Bitterness and anger can never bring forth the righteousness of God.
Good talk sir. However, people that would follow Christ in truth will not be tolerated in those churches because they would be persecuted and labelled rebels just as they would label you for all you have said. Judgement will begin in the house of God. The antichrist isn't those that don't believe in Christ but those that purvey erroneous beliefs and mislead people about Christ. So, if they're spoken against it could help redirect people from false doctrine. As it is written, When the light in you is darkness, how great that darkness will be!
When people are young in the faith they are still taking milk, that's why they need a shepherd it's at this point these gods of men prey on their vulnerabilities, their ignorance, their naivete especially women. They manipulate on Tithes, first fruits, miracles, fasting it takes some time for the spiritual eyes to be opened to understand that these church leaders are preying on them. God help us all to attain maturity before we are feasted on with wrong theology.
If we say church is not perfect....we are the churches and Christ is coming to rapture church without spot nor wrinkle....we shouldn't dwell on our imperfections to make excuses but rather try to work on ourselves to become perfect since non of our imperfections will be an excuse on that day
Greetings bro. In the name of Jesus Christ. Just a few observations. I really don't like it when the members of churches use the saying that "we are not perfect" when they are using it to justify so many things that are wrong with their conduct. It is offensive and promotes abuse and ease of consciences in wrong doing. I've never heard that statement used properly by church members. We should use it with regards to our sinners so as to free ourselves of our self-righteous attitudes in judging them to harshly but justify ourselves (church members)who should be doing far better. Secondly, the Bible never justifies our sins. The word of God encourages us however, to acknowledge and turn from them on the other hand. Lastly,I've listened to many of your videos and you keep saying that the church members don't think critically to which I agree but there is an insensitivity that comes with your tone. In churches members are abused, condemned criticized, openly insulted and many other disgusting psychological control mechanism when they even attempt to use the own critical faculties. They are even made to feel it is against faith to use their brains. If you want to have the right to address this topic brother you have to be fair and address the social and psychological pressures put upon church members to not only absent-mindedly conform but to blindly follow. God bless you dearly.❤
How many situations in churches do u think Dr Apoki will witness or hear about. With the break thru of the media now people who hear should be liberating others. He only touched on the issue he observed recently.
@@tee-totheroyalty8763I've listened to him and he seems very knowledgeable and experienced. It is impossible that his discernment should not reveal these things to him. In any event my comment weren't meant to show him up or critique him. It's meant to bring a necessary balance. May God bless all.
You're wrong in a sense. He preaches his own gospel and adds his own traditions to the church he leads. A good example is that you cannot be ordained a pastor at RCCG if you don't show a certificate of water baptism from an RCCG church. Did Jesus die only for RCCG members? Now he's praying that all other Christians will come and bow to RCCG members. That's rubbish, absolute rubbish
Sir,if the listeners understand Adunni message,she didn't discourage them to join a church but desist from becoming a church worker. They'll use and dump you,this is evident in testimony of those who have escaped from the modern day slavery
“For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”” Titus 1:10-12 NKJV
As the politicians has weaponised poverty, MOG have done the same with their congregation, using prosperity.
I recently left the RCCG as a deacon because of many abnormal things, especially the imagery thing.
I have gone back to the Anglican Church, where as a member I have access of the financial standing of the church and who is to be posted as a priest.
Sir, we have to call out these excesses in the body of Christ, its called chastisement.
However, we should do it constructively as you have said.
God bless you
Thank you Dr Apoki for your wisdom in this matter. Many people are looking for “saviors” not Jesus, once they discover the person they thought is their savior is not able/ ready/ willing, they start crying. Most church goers today are worshipping GOs & money. People need to start using their own brains, we are all responsible for our lives. Once money gets involved in anything, trust me, you must be extremely careful.
The average Nigeria christian seek more of every other thing than seeking first the kingdom of God and his righteousness. Well done sir.
Shalom from Switzerland ans thanks for this Word or wisdom.
God bless you sir for this admonition.
Thanks for this brilliant analysis and advice 👏🏼. God bless you sir.
May Almighty God deliver us from spiritual bondage and stagnation. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you again for your wise words and approach… but my take home is this your top.. it’s given Joseph coats of many colours.
Thanks. My son-in-law gave it to me. He imports textiles.
I love the top too
Thanks ❤️❤️
Sir, you spoke with an awesome wisdom.
It's unfortunate that most people attending church are not christians. They are overwhelmed by the imagery of their daddy GO and so they're not intuned to the Spirit of God.
I remember very well that in most of the SOLEMN ASSEMBLY coordinated by the RCCG GO, he has always downplayed himself and exalted the person of Jesus Christ. This attitude informed why he never allowed his picture being displayed on RCCG sign post.....
In the area of not permitting outside preachers to preach on RCCG platform was largely due to the abuse most external preachers have exhibited on RCCG altars which contradicted the Mission's and biblical doctrines......
Politics here to cover a business venture. Can we be honest once for life!!!. All the GO kids are also called by God , every one of them is already planting a replacement. This is where we find ourselves, let's accept it. The people have been cowed and no justification for such!!
Adeboye can't allow his pictures to be shown on the RCCG signpost in their programs because he is not the founder of RCCG. If he were to be the founder of RCCG he would have gladly allowed it.know this .
@@lugards1819By the time Pastor Adeboye hands over and it is not to his child and anyone related...I pray you ask God for Mercy!
Thank you sir, I am a member of RCCG and I say it on my channel all the time that people shouldn’t leave their brains at home when going to church. Everyone will give individual account.
You're on point sister IT.
We need to reason out what we're told in the Church to see if it aligns with what Christ taught us.
No doubt, God really used Doctor to explain the issue and left for those that hath ears to hear what the Spirit (through Dr.) is telling the church. This is not a time for arrogance!!
Thx
Facts!!!
❤❤ Thank you
Yes. I listen to you on your Channel. I would love to communicate with you, especially on your take on VDM activity
@@MsElina-r1f I meant from there. Typo 🤣.
I'm one of the member of rccg ... Thanks you for the advice I really appreciate it.. you are said it all...
Dr. Apoki, I recognise you face very well. I have met several times at UI. But are belittling your personality by bringing and defending religion. Moreso, we have many barbarian in the social media
Thank you Dr Charles Akpoki. You have said it all. I pray we learn from all you have said. God bless you abundantly and mY God continue to increase your knowledge.
You have spoken with wisdom and clarity sir.
Hi Doc,
I appreciate your common sense moderation over the whole saga playing out today. The stage for this has been in preparation for a long time now. This storm according to prophecy will blow itself out, and will be followed by the calm of reconciliations, forgiveness, holiness and a mighty manifestation of the glory of the Lord. Its called the"Church civil war" by Rick Joyner in his book, "The Final Quest". Late John Jackson called it the " The Perfect Storm".
Relax Doc, God is in control.
Oghenebruyokevwe. You've spoken very well. Christians were admonished to study to show themselves approved as workmen who need not be ashamed, but rightly dividing the word of truth. Unfortunately, the majority of Christians today are suffering from the deffect of ignorance. We worship our pastors, giving them the place of God in our lives. And to the pastors, instead of God to go higher while they go lower, they're hellbent on going higher at the expense of Christ. At the end of the day, the question to ask is, were they truly called or they came into the calling with the intention of making money and becoming gods of men?
Thank you sir for this. You have been very mature in your advice. I pray they hear you, both the members and the general overseers and not continue the current trend.
Sir, God will continue to bless you. Amen
7:21 Osanobua will bless you with this video...Pastors must 'not superimposed themselves on their memories...
Most intelligent analysis ever.
Wonderful message, God bless you and your ministry
Thank you very much sir.
You've spoken well
Dr, you have said it well. Thank you Sir. More blessings.❤
Thank you Sir. I love your factual presentation
You are very welcome
Well said. I wish this video could go viral. And I wish the respective quarters will listen and heed to it for healthy spiritual, individual and societal growth.
You're correct!
This should go viral and i'll begin to share it right away!
This is timely wisdom
Thank you for sharing
Thanks & God bless you Doctor for speaking the mind of Christ.
Most believers needs freedom indeed & not to be under captivity again.
GOD BLESS YOU SIR , more wisdom ,more grace to you in Jesus name
From your narration of the story that is how rccg and most church operate
Raw stuff
Thanks for sharing
Thank you Dr.
So much wisdom for everyone that cares to listen.
God bless you. This is so balanced.
This subject of church administration is painful to look at.
You are doing a great job
Wow Dr. Charles Apoki, you are speaking our truth here.😊
Well stated o man of wisdom. Thank you sir.
the responsibilities of the believer in Christ are many and varied. We are called to love God and others, to share the Gospel and make disciples, to live a life of holiness and purity, to serve others, and to be good stewards of all that God has given us.
beautiful wisdom.....same challenges in kenya.....
Good morning Dr Apoki. Truth must be told.
You spoke so well sir
Very well said!
Great insight! Thank you sir.
Well said 👋👋👍👍👍
I think after Covid-19, peoples eyes should have opened, instead of serving money & human beings, they shld serve d Almighty God
Very well said. We need to seek God for ourself and not see God through another man.
Thank you sir. Well said
Balanced analysis. God bless
Hello my friend , this is your friend from Sierra Leone 🇸🇱. Abibatu
Thanks so much.
Thanks sir for addressing this issue..I've been watching her too
You nailed it here: most don't read the Bible but listen to sermons and testimonies.
Thank you sir. I think RCCg should look into this
You have spoken well sir.God bless you sir
Nice
Thank you very much Sir.
Well said sir
❤❤
Please sir, talk about Tithes.
Nobody is forcing you to pay tithe oga
@@OlumideSimeon-e2gYes, No One, But When Someone That Has A Larger Than Life Image Like Oyedepo And Adeboye Telling Their Congregation That "If You Don't Pay Tithes You Won't Make Heaven" What Do You Call That? Subtle Pressure Mentally. That's More Damaging And More Effective To The Human Mind. Yes They Don't Openly Force You, But For Someone Like Oyedepo Saying "We Have Never Borrowed For All Our Multi Billion Naira Projects Because We Are Faithful Tithers". What Do You Call That?
100% correct that most Nigerians in the church don't think.
You are right sir,no perfect system but lets thrive to perfeft things ,if we have such mentality ,we shall minimize errors in our systems
Thank you sir❤
Sir, you have nailed it hard on the head. I hope we Nigerian Christians understand you and make some adjustments and follow Christ indeed. Serve God the right way. Salvation is key. Repentance is key.
Looking for miracles will not take us to heaven. It is holiness that is the ticket to heaven.
We only need to seek the kingdom of God and the rest, will be taken care of by Almighty God.❤
Thank you very much, for creating a balance and diffusing our hearts from bitterness and redirecting us to the Lord
No system is perfect. Since RCCG is not perfect, the woman in question can start her own ministry and run it perfectly. My opinion .I respect you sir. God bless.
Don't mind her. Let her start her perfect one so we can learn from her
I agree with you
RCCG should reach out to her, apologize and sympathise, and improve their 'imperfect' system, and release a public statement in regards.
Why are we crying foul on politicians and should we not do so in churches too? Everywhere is imperfect, should we settle for that?
@@belovedflorence4109 Thank you o! How do we get justice for victims of Church Leaders and systems wrongdoings if we say nothing? The Bible tasks us with getting justice for the oppressed. There is currently an a former Choir Leader languishing in police detention courtesy of a Daddy G.O. because of his association with another ex-member (who the GOs Church branches abroad and member had sued for defamation) despite a court order in place that he must not be arrested or detained while his Human Rights breach case against that G.O. is ongoing, and a further order that he be released. On the other hand we have someone who would be termed a Pagan who allegations of Murders were publicly made against who simply released a Public Statement denying any involvement in Murder and said he would not be going to court for the sake of unity. The 'Pagan' is more Christlike than Daddy G.O!
Happy sunday doctor Apooki
Thank You sir!! Majorly,This is One of the Reasons why people especially the Youngees (Gen z )Don't Believe in God...Generally speaking People who criticize The system Make it Difficult for People to actually Believe in christ.. I mean No Matter How The Church is, It's literally The same God we are serving...I am not saying people shouldn't talk But I mean..This Is a Free World....But we should be careful or we might end up being an Antichrist!!
God bless you sir.
Adunni speaks very good English sir, she doesn't need an interpreter sir. Welldone to you.
He said Adunni spoke mostly in Yoruba in her videos which is true, he didn’t say she doesn’t speak English. This is part of the things we are saying, listen well .
@@NOHOLDSBARREDWITHIT what is the part of the thing you are saying. If he watches Adunni video regularly rather than coming across the one he claims, he spoke in yoruba, he will know he combines them together
@@olaosman2574Yes She Speaks Well In English, But In The Particular Video The Narrator Must Have Watched, She Expressed Herself In Yoruba. Don't Start An Argument Over That.
Kai Kai why are you people like this? Ehn? Chai be calming down o and learn to listen very well.
Well said sir. God bless you, the big Dénomination are behaving like empires, supermen over their inferior subjects .. This is wrong.
Truly age doesn't guarantee wisdom..
religious colonialism. Well explained sir. How humans see things and how God sees are soooooo far apart.
Dr Charles Greetings!
I respect some of your comments. However, your other points of emphasis i do not agree with you for the following reasons:
1) Just look at the current state of affairs in Nigeria with all the churches there. Isn't it in a real mess?
2) When are the likes of yourselves going to come to the realization that the elders of faith in Nigeria have failed an entire generation?
3) People are speaking up because they want things to change. The pulpits have been corrupted by lies, manipulation greed and self-centeredness not to forget to mention the policy of mass ordination of the uncalled in many of the Nigerian churches!.
4) Since when has the gospel become a franchise?
5) Would you say that the majority of the Nigerian churches are serving Jehovah or Mammon ?
6) Do you expect people to remain silent in face of such corrupt and spiritual decay?
7) What has Pentecostalism brought to Nigeria in the last 40 years?
Has it raised a holy nation for God?
I come in peace!
It's a responsibility for all of us to contribute to the development of society.
I will be glad to hear your voice and contributions to this discussion.
I have done my little bit.
@DrCharlesApoki has addressed this issue well. The bottom line is that Christians should know God for themselves, bitter criticism does not help the kingdom of God because two wrongs do not make a right. So the more we seek to have a personal knowledge of Christ , the less offenses and deceptions will exist and the better the kingdom of God will thrive
@@chidinduariwodo8230 I gave him 0/10; he has spoken big english with both sides of his mouth. No, I do not come in peace! It seems like the gigantic human suffering she is alluding to just skip over his head! Why would he care? I am not a practising doctor, but the Hippocratic oat is always at the back of my mind while I am doing anything with patient. I don't know this kinds of Nigerian doctors that human suffering just doesn't move them. If he is the best we got, we are screwed in that country!
To the best of my knowledge, there are other religions in Nigeria. Why are you putting the whole responsibility on the church? Did you also lay similar blame on the other religions?
@@diplomatdiplomat2800 None of these religions is squat free! But, we removed our own log before focusing on other people. This is not a simple case of people not knowing their catechism, this is problematic to the core. There is no way these Pastors can talk their way out of this. This is huge, and it has been going on for long.
Love you already
The church in Nigeria has denied Christ. The evils in the church should be exposed outrightly without consideration for any personality be it Adeboye or Kumuyi or Oyedepo. Whoever covers their sins becomes a sinner
God bless you Daddy
It will be difficult for them to change Sir. As the message as always been on how to rip innocent people off their wrong teaching of the gospel. Manipulation and hailing one person as God. If they change, they will go broke.
You are very correct MOD, if only the christian leaders would disciple people and lead them to Christ rather than themselves. God has called us into a one on one relationship, but led by his servants the pastors. But they have become demi gods
True Sir.
Thank you sir you said it all. Our people have given their own lives to their pastors. They are so ni bi .
MORE TRUTH WILL COME OUT FOR LIES HAS BEEN OPERATING SO LONG IN RCCG
JUDGEMENT HAS STARTED AND GOD WILL STILL USE MEN TO CARRY OUT HIS ASSIGNMENT
God bless you sir
Let every evil work be exposed whether by any man or any denomination. Ephesian 5:11.
Papa hope this soldier stuff no affect your area or your farm. You get you for mind. Stay blessed
Whether we like it or not! Religion is part of Nigeria's problem! A lot of people are in bondage! In Africa, pastors make themselves gods. You have it here 5:40!
You are partially right!!!! Religion is the major problem...
Papa you are so much correct, you have said it all sir, there is so much hunger in the land.
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Mass Production Christianity indeed 😢
Sir, I bless God for your wisdom and I pray the Almighty God reward you in Jesus name. Much as almost everything you said was in order and right, however, there's an area of great concern.
This is the point you described those complaining or calling out the men of God in question as attempting to destroy a "structure" or system that once beneffited them which is akin to a case of a jilted lover. Sir, with due respect, i disagree with you on this analogy for the following reasons:
First, you cannot beat a child and expect the child not to cry. These GOs cannot cheat or maltreat the sheep under their care and expect such sheep not to bleat!
In actual fact Yeshua (Jesus) did not mince word when he warned in Matt.18:6 that anyone who causes any of these little ones to stumble (baby chritians) is better thrown into the depth of the sea with a big stone around his neck! It is this wicked ways of ministers that was reported in Rom 2:24 that it was because of people like these (our GOs and Bishop) that make gentles speak evil of the name of God and not the disgruntled members who are victims of their wickdness. Sir, the problem is with the cause/aggressors (pastors) and not the efffect/ aggreived.
In same vein, i do not believe the critics or victims of our pastors' misdeeds are capable of destroying the works of God perhaps that's what you meant by structure because Christ in Matt. 16:18 already assured us that He would build His church (believers) and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it (us). Therefore, I want to say it not the reactions of victims of our pastors's ungodly behaviours that will drive others away from coming into the fold, rather it is the deeds of our fathers in the lord reflecting on thier members that will determine whether we win more souls or scare them away!
Also recall there's no account of anyone who ran to Yeshua (Jesus) or the Apostles for help that went back worse than they were aside the unbroken rich young ruler who inquired about the kingdom. Therefore, when the shepherd begin to prey on their flock or sheep instead of praying for or protecting them from predators, then they deserve whatever backlash that come across their path. The only thing is not to insult or curse them. But it is order for the aggrieved to call these fathers of faith out for thier actrocites, lies, deception and shenanigans on the pulpit (like Apostle Paul did to Peter) lest more innocent people fall victims of thier hypocrsy, double standard, wickdness. Our elders say if a man that brought home faggot infested firewood should not complain when lizards begin to pay him a visit.
I'm sure you'll agree with me that whatever a man soweth, that he shall reap. These GOs cannot be raising shallow minded and scripturally deficient believers and expect them to display the faith of Job in time of adversity when they lack the true knowledge of God to see them through; no thanks to these same men of God who deprived them of such direct relationship with God!
To put it simply, they cannot be brainswashing their members and expect them to display strength and spiritual maturity or resilience during difficult time; no sir! Because you cannot give what you don't have.
Thanks once again for display of godly wisdom
Shallom!
The Church cant be perfect in the eyes of people. There will always be schism here and there. But in the eyes of God she is perfect. We are in the age of knowledge and general enlightenment and things like this are bound to happen.
Love for God and our fellow Brothers is the key. Bitterness and anger can never bring forth the righteousness of God.
Good talk sir. However, people that would follow Christ in truth will not be tolerated in those churches because they would be persecuted and labelled rebels just as they would label you for all you have said. Judgement will begin in the house of God. The antichrist isn't those that don't believe in Christ but those that purvey erroneous beliefs and mislead people about Christ. So, if they're spoken against it could help redirect people from false doctrine. As it is written, When the light in you is darkness, how great that darkness will be!
We have religious church in Nigeria, not Christianity church. Jesus message is against religion
When people are young in the faith they are still taking milk, that's why they need a shepherd it's at this point these gods of men prey on their vulnerabilities, their ignorance, their naivete especially women. They manipulate on Tithes, first fruits, miracles, fasting it takes some time for the spiritual eyes to be opened to understand that these church leaders are preying on them. God help us all to attain maturity before we are feasted on with wrong theology.
If we say church is not perfect....we are the churches and Christ is coming to rapture church without spot nor wrinkle....we shouldn't dwell on our imperfections to make excuses but rather try to work on ourselves to become perfect since non of our imperfections will be an excuse on that day
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Greetings bro. In the name of Jesus Christ.
Just a few observations. I really don't like it when the members of churches use the saying that "we are not perfect" when they are using it to justify so many things that are wrong with their conduct. It is offensive and promotes abuse and ease of consciences in wrong doing. I've never heard that statement used properly by church members.
We should use it with regards to our sinners so as to free ourselves of our self-righteous attitudes in judging them to harshly but justify ourselves (church members)who should be doing far better.
Secondly, the Bible never justifies our sins. The word of God encourages us however, to acknowledge and turn from them on the other hand.
Lastly,I've listened to many of your videos and you keep saying that the church members don't think critically to which I agree but there is an insensitivity that comes with your tone.
In churches members are abused, condemned criticized, openly insulted and many other disgusting psychological control mechanism when they even attempt to use the own critical faculties. They are even made to feel it is against faith to use their brains. If you want to have the right to address this topic brother you have to be fair and address the social and psychological pressures put upon church members to not only absent-mindedly conform but to blindly follow.
God bless you dearly.❤
How many situations in churches do u think Dr Apoki will witness or hear about.
With the break thru of the media now people who hear should be liberating others.
He only touched on the issue he observed recently.
@@tee-totheroyalty8763I've listened to him and he seems very knowledgeable and experienced. It is impossible that his discernment should not reveal these things to him.
In any event my comment weren't meant to show him up or critique him. It's meant to bring a necessary balance.
May God bless all.
So much sense sir!
Yeye and two mouths speaker
"Scriptural indigestion"😂
But Pastor Adeboye doesn't magnify himself, he always gives glory to God. But i hope he regulates what testifiers say truly
You're wrong in a sense. He preaches his own gospel and adds his own traditions to the church he leads.
A good example is that you cannot be ordained a pastor at RCCG if you don't show a certificate of water baptism from an RCCG church.
Did Jesus die only for RCCG members?
Now he's praying that all other Christians will come and bow to RCCG members.
That's rubbish, absolute rubbish
The bitter truth is that people should think and discover themselves not necessarily becoming a church worker.
Yes she is not wrong! Deacons are used to pastor their branches!
Sir,if the listeners understand Adunni message,she didn't discourage them to join a church but desist from becoming a church worker. They'll use and dump you,this is evident in testimony of those who have escaped from the modern day slavery
“For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.””
Titus 1:10-12 NKJV
You are right sir.