RUPES Mille LK900E Bigfoot Machine Polisher Review Demo

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    The long-awaited LK900E 'Mille' from Rupes is a forced-rotation, gear-driven, dual action machine polisher that excels in cutting ability on curved body panels.
    Bridging the gap between rotary and free-spinning orbital polishers, the LK900E Mille provides a balance of power, ergonomics and capability for operators who crave a gear-driven solution.
    Featuring a wide assortment of new, innovative features as well as a revolutionary
    clockwise rotational movement, the LK900E Mille delivers powerful defect removal, versatility, and consistent performance in an ergonomic package designed with operator comfort and efficiency of work in mind.
    The Rupes BIGFOOT LK900E Mille offers a true, two-step paint correction system; successfully correct paintwork with stunning results and reduced work time.
    The NEW Rupes Low Profile Foam Polishing Pads:
    This new range of foam pads feature a low profile, having been designed to maximise the transmission of the LK900E's gear-driven movement to the working surface, reducing pad distortion and, thereby, improving stability and control. The tapered edge helps minimise the chances of the edges of the backing plate connecting with the car’s panel during operation.
    The NEW Rupes Mille Polishing Compounds:
    These compounds have been specifically formulated to take into account the movement of the LK900E's forced rotation and the temperatures, speeds and energy generation in order to deliver the best performance.
    LK900E Mille Key Features:
    A clockwise, rotational movement that reduces lateral movement.
    Forced rotation for better cutting with the safety of a dual action polisher.
    Variable speed control with 'clicks', which is ergonomically positioned.
    Progressive accelerator trigger for extra control, 'cruise control' knob for reduced user fatigue.
    2x body rubber supports hold the machine stable when resting on its back.
    A long, 9m power cable which increases user comfort when placing the cable over your shoulder.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 127

  • @alimoghadasi3748
    @alimoghadasi3748 5 років тому +2

    I am 100% sure that you are the best detailer i have ever seen on youtube...i have spent hundreds of hours searching different
    detailers all over youtube but you are the best...well done.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  5 років тому +1

      theres no such thing really Ali. my experience level is low to average in lots of areas, and there are whapping great knowledge gaps in some regions. and if you saw how I used to polish cars when I started you would laugh, it would go viral for all the wrong reasons. but part of the fun is learning, and when theres nothing to learn or no desire to learn then the passion drops. but I also have no desire to try and make you think Im something Im not.. you can tell a lot about you tubers from their initial content etc... the first stuff I put out there shows how green I was. none of this detailing scene even existed when I grew up. It was halfords + autoglym + meguiars + a few others and a pressure washer. I only got interested in it because I was doing some other stuff on cars that needed me to get better results on freshly painted panels.

    • @alimoghadasi3748
      @alimoghadasi3748 5 років тому +2

      @@ForensicDetailing Of course you are right.At the beginning of my career me too was like you said!!!
      but the passion needs to go on and on...I really adore your passion about cars and detailing...well done.
      And your vidz are way more academic than many on youtube...I bet you and never under-estimate yourself.
      By the way i am far far away from you(i live in Iran).

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  5 років тому +1

      @@alimoghadasi3748 awesome to have viewers in other countries Ali. thanks so much for the positive comments its means a lot.

  • @grygoriimitish3490
    @grygoriimitish3490 4 роки тому +1

    From my, professional prospective -- You are one of the best and the most informational channels. Alleluia's joke is brilliant)) Big respec.

  • @rogerbaron9514
    @rogerbaron9514 6 років тому +3

    I've had my Flex 3401 for many years now. It's a proven machine as is their rotary. It's lighter in weight and by using the Flex 4" Interchangeable Backing Plate I can go down to the smaller 4" pads that I find handy and use a lot on todays smaller tighter panels.

  • @atvcampersabo285
    @atvcampersabo285 6 років тому +5

    Had it..sold it,,,Rupes 21 all day.

  • @TerrificFlow
    @TerrificFlow 6 років тому +2

    Rupes, send this guy to Italy to try your tool in the perfect condition and setup! That could be great for your brand and the community!

  • @cliffgray9155
    @cliffgray9155 6 років тому

    Excellent review jon.i spent just over £80 with cleanandshiney.they said 3-5 days delivery.i placed my order just after 2 pm.it turned up the next day about 11am.great stuff and free delivery as well.

  • @damienm8416
    @damienm8416 6 років тому +6

    Cool vid . The Makita PO5000C combines the best of both worlds would be interesting to see how it would compares to it´s more expensive competitors.

  • @clintmcjeepjunkie820
    @clintmcjeepjunkie820 6 років тому

    Had the privilege of trying the Mille out today at a buddy's shop. If I had to use it I would but I would never trade my 3401 for it. A little heavy for my liking and even felt top-heavy if that makes any sense. I've polished about 1000 cars with my 3401 with zero maintenance and it's still going strong. I even use it with a 5-inch scrubbing pad to clean carpets even though I know that's not necessarily a smart thing to do. It's a beast. glad that there are options now and that the competition is fueling innovation.

  • @danblack5696
    @danblack5696 2 роки тому

    Great video! I don’t comment much ,but felt I needed to . Thanks

  • @Audittr2108
    @Audittr2108 6 років тому +5

    Great review Jon, been waiting for your point of view. From watching the Rupes series of videos on OG, Rupes consider their Bigfoot DA range their go to choice for detailing and the Mille and new rotary as further options depending on the circumstances you’re facing. There’s so many machines choices these days, I’m glad I’m not starting off and having to work out what one to buy. I got my first DA in 1996 when the choice was to import a Porter Cable from USA!

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 6 років тому

      Chris_Audittr2108
      And that PC is the first one I always reach for!
      I have a 21, Duetto, 3401, etc but use the PC the most.

    • @Audittr2108
      @Audittr2108 6 років тому

      danlc95 - I sold my PC to a neighbour when I moved to a rotary years ago. He still has it and only using occasionally so it’s in great condition. Might see if I can buy it back for the nostalgia!

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 6 років тому

      Chris_Audittr2108 - Ha! In 1998 I got my first rotary, and I've been trying to find one like it for the same reasons! It was a variable speed WEN. Not the best tool, but it was what I learned on.

  • @steveharrison3740
    @steveharrison3740 6 років тому +1

    Going back to your review of the Rupes LHR15ES MkII, you seemed more impressed with that tool vs the LK900E. I imagine its an apples to oranges comparison between the 2 since one is a free spinning and the other a forced rotation. I’m toying with either of these paired with a LHR75. Your wisdom is greatly appreciated.

  • @samcas707
    @samcas707 6 років тому +1

    I’ve had the Mille for a few months now, completed 2 full corrections with it, and I found the same issue with the Mille blue pad, I just couldn’t use it, especially on vertical section. I was fortunate I only needed to compound 1 panel due to buffer trails on a repaint, I ended up grabbing their new yellow Mille wool pad with a compound and it was as smooth as the yellow foam. I also feel the Mille with yellow pad and yellow Mille polish is so much smoother than my old 3401, and pretty close to the lhr15 with oe backing plate

  • @Adenforest
    @Adenforest 6 років тому +1

    I'm a huge fan of my Makita PO5000C. The Rupes is probably a little more refined, but for me the Makita is just fine.

  • @jtm1979
    @jtm1979 6 років тому +2

    Well i had mille and i sold it. It definilately delivers less cut than 15-21 mk2 and contours are not problem when you lear the secrets of long throw. Mille is better than 3401 but i personally stick with long throws and rotary.

  • @lnsdetailingmechanical5440
    @lnsdetailingmechanical5440 6 років тому +1

    Ive been using the Mother Wax Attack machine for the past 2 years and its a good machine as i can change the throw. It came with 2 different weights but it does have very bad vibration. Its variable speed but anything over 4000rpm its like trying to hold onto bucking bull lol

  • @matthewgibb2640
    @matthewgibb2640 6 років тому

    Hey John great review. To the person who said you can't use microfibre pads on forced - you can do it, it just comes down to how you manage heat. Forced rotation can out cut random orbital sometimes, it just depends on what the paint likes. The makita po6000c is the strongest machine on the market at present but I had a few issues with it. Maybe the one I had was a dud. If you use thicker pads on forced, you lose some of the energy in the pad thus thin is better but it can lead to a little less control. It's similar to tyre sidewalls. The taller the sidewall the more comfortable the ride. The rupes forced wool pads are magnificent, barely any marring ever.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      nice write up matt, I want to check that makita out at some point.
      all the theory stuff goes out the window with those blue pads :) They defy the rules , but not in a good way.

    • @matthewgibb2640
      @matthewgibb2640 6 років тому

      thanks for the reply john. I use two Makita BO6050J machines which spin clockwise but would not be as powerful as a Mille. Talk with Mario from Eurogloss Prestige if you want to know more about the Makita PO6000C. He swears by it

  • @AussieDetails
    @AussieDetails 6 років тому +1

    Another excellent review!

  • @ericlove5273
    @ericlove5273 2 роки тому

    Hallelujahhhhhh 😂 Hell Yeah!! Good information buddy 👍🏻

  • @James.O
    @James.O 6 років тому +1

    This is a system, not just a machine, you need to use the pads and the compounds, you also need to prime the pads by completely covering the pad with the compound, it will pull you around if you don’t do this as the pad has areas of higher and lower friction. There’s more lubricant in the compounds designed for this machine, I’m guessing to reduce heat and prevent fighting the machine. I’ve done a few corrections with this machine but I’m using the Rupes wool pads, they work very well.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      your right and you need to work wetter as well with the blue pads. I saw the info rupes put out on it..
      rupes have clearly created a system. But I would look to go "off piste" so to speak. I just couldnt live with the blues (for a few reasons) and I dont want to do my cutting with wool (even though its nice and smooth).

    • @dejedejsson
      @dejedejsson 6 років тому

      Of course, it's a system, a system for taking your money

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 6 років тому

      Deje Dejsson - Have you ever used it?

    • @James.O
      @James.O 6 років тому +3

      The wool isn’t as harsh as you’d think, if you’re happy with Meguiars MF pads then you’d be happy with these. I used the Meguiars MF pads on the Mille with 101 so I’m venturing off piste with it and learning its capabilities, as you say, if you’re already using one of the Bigfoot range then you’d be at home with this, it just doesn’t stall.....ever.
      Deje Dejsson, The Rupes systems work well, I don’t see why you’re unhappy with a company who have done a lot of research in making a product work?

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 6 років тому

      James H - My best work has been done with their system. It took a good bit of time to get a grasp on it though. From priming pads, pressure, etc...

  • @MrSulkow1
    @MrSulkow1 6 років тому +1

    That blue Rupes cutting pad looks like a thin Buff n Shine Uro Tec blue pad. I was using that on the Flex 3401, it worked well but seemed to destroy itself. I contacted Buff n Shine and they said that the large open celled foam on that cutting pad isn't designed for forced rotation. The cell structure is too large and breaks down with the huge loads that a forced rotation generates. The Rep recommended a closed cell pad. I've been using some closed cell pads, and have to say that they do seem to work better and not break down as easy. I have also used Lake Country HDO cutting pads with some good results. They do break down (open cell foam pad) but not as fast as the bigger celled foam in the Buff n Shine Uro Tec. I have ordered some orange Lake Country Force pads, and some Buff n Shine Uro Cell to try. The other thing that bothers me about the Buff n Shine Uro Tec is like you mentioned with the blue Rupes pad, it gets soft when warmed up. I like a consistent pad that doesn't change durring the buffing cycle. I don't want to start with a super aggressive pad and end up with a soft one. When you start the next section that damn pad is still soft and doesn't cut as effectively as it did when it was cool. Great vid as always.

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 6 років тому +1

      Steve Sulkowski - The American foams are the only thing I use on a 3401. The original Buff and Shine green, blue, black, and (the one exception) red.
      The green is a very good cutter, despite being designated as a polishing pad. Works great with something like M205 for one step polishing.
      The blue pad is what I like for finishing, and light polishing.
      These pads are open cell, and have a medium density. This allows maximum contact to paint on curves and contours. With the 3401, much less grab, and walk effect.
      I've tried the 3401 with the traditional orange and white foam, and it walks all over the place, without doing as good a job working the paint. Especially the orange cutting pad. I hate those things for cutting.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому +2

      Ive noticed the cells on the polishing surface face of the rupes foam cutting pads break down quite quickly. sort of bobble up a bit.. but they are well made pads. I cant really find any fault with their softer polishing pads but Im not too keen on their cutting pads.

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 6 років тому +1

      Forensic Detailing Channel - Which is why I tend to use their microfiber pads to cut.
      I like their original design at that as well.

  • @MrMully48
    @MrMully48 6 років тому +2

    I wonder if you could do a review between the flex xfe 7-12-80 and the rupes duetto

  • @Nisotovski
    @Nisotovski 3 місяці тому

    I have the LHR15 MK III but i hate whe it stall and this hapend a lot even on hoods with a lot of curves. So my plan is to buy rotory or forced rotation.
    I havent work with eather of those two in the past. Wich one do you sugest. If i go with rotory am a bit scared for the haze and holograms. But have seen people having really good resoults with finishing compound. So am a bit confused wich one shoud i buy?
    Eventually i will buy the two but for now i need somting that will speed up my polishing time and not have with pad stalling i have on the LHR 15?
    Thanks and keep up the good work with your chanell 👌💪

  • @c6z061
    @c6z061 6 років тому +1

    Thanks, Jon! Have you used any wool pads with the Mille?

  • @maxburg4817
    @maxburg4817 6 років тому +1

    I love the Rupes tools and they are first class no matter which product you wish to use. The only drawback is the price for me but I guess you pay your money and take your choice. Really informative video - Thanks Jon ! 👍🏼 Would you trade your Flex for the Rupes given you’ve been using it for years, that’s the question ? 🤔

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому +1

      no I wouldnt... but its less about the tool and more about the fact Ive found a working combo already on the flex, if the rupes had come first I would prolly have a set piece combo with it and be less likely to want to switch to the flex.. The reason I wouldnt trade it for the flex is the combo of lake country hybrid power 5 inch pads on the 4 inch plate and scholl concepts abrasives copes with anything. With the 5 inch pads theres virtually no pull. even the heavy cutting pad from lake country is nice and plyable and takes up the panel well.. I can hit virtually everything with it... Even on the flex if I move up to 6 inch pads or even 5.5 , I notice the tool working against me more.. I just lay out compound and work away with the flex and its just so easy to operate.. Im a big fan of lake country pads. And just bought about 30 hybrid power pads because they have been discontinued. I seem to be the only bugger that likes using them. Ive not found any other machine and pad combo that gets close to how cool this is..

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      skip to 9 minutes 50 seconds in this video to see why I like that combo so much.. how easy does it look to polish out the wing with that system
      ua-cam.com/video/Y5IbpZWIp1Q/v-deo.html

    • @maxburg4817
      @maxburg4817 6 років тому

      Forensic Detailing Channel Thanks Jon - that’s a very interesting point. I’ve been considering the Flex for sometime but wouldn’t mind testing one before hand. Thanks again 👍🏼 P.S. I totally agree that those Lake Country are the business.

  • @tony.775
    @tony.775 6 років тому

    Been looking forward to this Jon. Seems you had the STN, DLX kit has the wool pads. Sure Rupes see these pads as the future for FR, the thick ones are not suited to this tool and you have shown that. The tool is pure quality and I like the minimum throw. All 3 grades of compound will be available imminently in ltr bottles.
    You did a good review on what you had.👍

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      wool does work really well on this tool. takes away a lot of the issues with the blue cutting pads, makes the tool a lot smoother.. I just prefer to cut with foam though.

    • @tony.775
      @tony.775 6 років тому

      There is one other point needs making Jon. Rupes have developed a spcific range of compounds C, F & UF which is lubricated for the Mille and useless on other machines. You have to use the correct compound on their pads or it will be very difficult. Its a different beast, so as per the term you use, it will becaome a bag of worms. Better to stick with Rupes expensive R&D first before our own??

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      the mille coarse compound for the blue pads yer.. Im guessing they would help but even if they solved the problems I encountered around getting worked over by the pad they wouldnt solve some of the other things I dont like about thin pads.. theres a reason for everything in their designing of a system (ive heard the reasons). but I have some preference on pads for reasons personal to me. I would look for other pad options for the way I work, deinfetly a more intermiediate/mid range cutting pad choice (closer to their green although even thats a bit agressive for me).

  • @1minibean
    @1minibean 6 років тому +1

    How do you think it does against the Makita 5000 ? Thanks amigo

  • @c6z061
    @c6z061 6 років тому +1

    Thank you! I'll stick to my 12, 15, and 21mm for cutting to finishing. Any forced rotation DA will struggle when finishing soft black paint.

    • @marioan3698
      @marioan3698 6 років тому +4

      mark Saf that’s actually not true. For finishing I’ve been using my Makita BO6040 forced rotation DA for a long time now and never had any problem finishing soft black paint.
      It all comes down to personal preferences and the polishing paste you’re using.

    • @jtm1979
      @jtm1979 6 років тому

      And it cuts slower than 15-21 maybe even less than 12.

    • @c6z061
      @c6z061 6 років тому +1

      jtm1979 are you serious?????

    • @jtm1979
      @jtm1979 6 років тому +1

      mark Saf Yes, I was one of the first in Finland who bought mille and it was dissapointinting, other detailers here felt same. It is better than Flex 3401 but i have whole bigfoot lineup and rotary so the mille didnt bring any benefits for me.

    • @c6z061
      @c6z061 6 років тому +1

      jtm1979 I could see the 21 cutting more, but the 15 and maybe the 12 cutting more? This is a forced rotation machine with high RPM, so it seems it would cut pretty good!

  • @QPkrlssn
    @QPkrlssn 6 років тому

    Great video! I would like to see a review / comparison between the rupes rotary polishers LH 18 and LH 19 vs flex 14-2 and 14-1 =).

  • @hakman239
    @hakman239 4 роки тому

    Why do you move your arm so fast with the das6pro plus and rupes in the vid though it was 1 inch per second?

  • @franconicolasgudino9548
    @franconicolasgudino9548 6 років тому +1

    Dear friend, am I looking to buy a forced turning machine, between rupes mille, makita co6000 or flex 3401? What would you recommend? many thanks

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      hey there, Ive not used the makita franco, heard good things though. between the mille and 3401 I prefer the 3401. The main reason being is the price tag and the weight of the mille (its still a beutifull machine though). I can also use a specific 5 inch pad that I love on the flex. mille has a much better cooling system thats its main advantage over the flex.
      however flex are about to release a new forced rotation so I would hold fire. for that to come out first.

    • @franconicolasgudino9548
      @franconicolasgudino9548 6 років тому

      Thanks a lot friend.

  • @MumenRider78
    @MumenRider78 3 роки тому

    If you had to choose out of the mille or the flex 3401, which would you choose to do a whole car by itself?

  • @c6z061
    @c6z061 5 років тому

    Contrary to most, I found the 3401 to be less "jerky" than the Mille. Mille had less vibration, but I don't contribute that to a smoother running machine. If it wants to own you more, it's not as smooth, regardless if there's less vibration. I sold the Mille and kept the 3401.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  5 років тому +1

      what you might be observing is the extra what 400-500 gram weight of the machine making a difference. vibration is part of the smooth thing but I understand what your saying. ultimately with these forced rotation machines the key is really the pad biting into the panel rather than moving over it soon as that starts to happen these tools generally can become a pain to operate. the size of the pad and the machine weight play a bit part in this. I think I know what you mean though. I found the tool a real handfull on the blue pads and rupes are saying I need to use it with their system and their abrasives but I dont want to do that. I dont like the flat pads for the reasons I discussed. The the actual buy in to a system in this instance has put me off because theres problems with it beyond the tool itself. that being said I could get a combo no doubt that works Id just have to explore pad ranges. I do have a leaning towards the 3401 as well still, even though some elements of the mille are better (the cooling)

    • @c6z061
      @c6z061 5 років тому

      Jon, I tried several different pads and polishes with the Mille, including their system. Even with their pads and polishes, I still wasn't satisfied. The Mille is much more finicky as far as pad selection than the 3401. I don't like that at all. Kind of hard to explain, but the Mille has less vibration, but more grabby. Like you said, I think you understand what I mean.

    • @c6z061
      @c6z061 5 років тому

      Also, with the Mille, when moving the polisher horizontally, it's a lot less grabby then when moving the polisher vertically. This could be said for the 3401 as well, but I found the difference more noticeable with the Mille. Just my opinion.

  • @kostaskritsilas2681
    @kostaskritsilas2681 6 років тому

    Did you have a chance to try out the Mille with the Lake Country Hybrid Force pads? Putting aside the screams of outrage from the Rupes fans, it would seem like those pads would work well with the Mille, being engineered for use with a forced rotation polisher (in terms of heat resistance), and are thicker to accommodate contours.

  • @adelaidewinetours
    @adelaidewinetours 5 років тому

    Thank you for this, I ended up purchasing the Mille with a Black Friday 20% off, are you able to sand 3000 with these?

  • @lucabrazi36
    @lucabrazi36 5 років тому

    What do you think about the Makita rotary polisher? How does it compare to the Mile?

  • @bishoprain9287
    @bishoprain9287 4 роки тому

    Good day, I got a quick question, in the intro, what polisher are you using? Can you tell me the brand name and what type of polisher it is? It looks like a flex, but it has a picture of a bee and it says something UK on the side of it, thank you...

  • @extrmfan9909
    @extrmfan9909 6 років тому

    Do a comparison of ONR diluted 1:16 vs Megs Last Touch 1:1 vs Wolfgang Uber Rinseless diluted 3:128 and several other quick detailers. I found ONR and Uber Rinseless really cheap when diluted to a recommended dilution ratio as a quick detailer. And both of them work just as good as Megs Last Touch if not better. So why the hell Megs Last Touch is selling at a way higher price? When diluted I can make Wolfgang at $2 a gallon where Megs is $15!!! I own three of them and doing detailing for profit. I just wanna cut down my cost if three of them yield the same result. I don't wanna screw up my customers cars, when working on a more expensive car I go with Megs since it labeled as a dedicated quick detailer but I'm having a really tough time finding the difference between Megs and the other two (ONR and Uber Rinseless). I do think this video could help a lot of your viewers including me :). Thanks!

  • @alanwong928
    @alanwong928 6 років тому

    Nice review on the mille, i saw this a while back but no one had any reviews on it. I too think the mille is a bit on the heavy side. The polisher im more interested in now is the flex cordless da that has just come out. Will you be getting that to review?

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      thanks alan. Ive had a play with the flex cordless DA and rotary. very impressed with them.. I will try and get them for review. the cordless DA seemed to have more clearence on the plate than the corded version that I reviewed.. it was really smooth.

  • @jc7879
    @jc7879 5 років тому

    Hi Jon. I’m not sure if this is a stupid question. I have no experience with a forced rotation polisher, but wanted to know if you are able to use microfibre cutting pads with this machine? Or is this not advisable due to the heat the polisher would generate? Your words of wisdom would be much appreciated.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  5 років тому +1

      not due to heat JC. I talk about why they are considered not suitable on forced rotation actually in a video I will be dropping tuesday on the new moore pad range joe from autoglanz is releasing. MF pads will still pull abrasives and work on forced rotation or rotary.. but imagine a microfiber pad a crops like wheat in a field stnading upright. when a rotary or FR machine operates it rotates the pad constantly so this creates a crop circle effect. although the FR has a slight oscillation or offset (imagine a spiders web shape rather than a cirle) its still a constant rotation which drags the microfiber one way. So the microfiber gets flattened out like a crop circle and only one side of the microfiber it sweeping over the panel. And because of this is will gunk up quicker. A free spinning machine the rotation slows and stops periodically and that means you get and orbit of the axel with no rotation of the plate. this ruffles up the microfiber more so its not constantly being pulled one way, simply think of buffing a panel with a microfiber cloth in different directions. Its this ruffling that means you use more "side" of the microfiber strands as opposed to one side of the absorbant microfiber just getting clogged up. Thats the theory anyway. MF still works on FR and rotary. Wool is less effected by the above as it doesnt absorb the polish as much.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  5 років тому +1

      thin MF pads are also a handfull on the forced rotation and its really hard to get over curves or recesses with them.

    • @jc7879
      @jc7879 5 років тому

      Forensic Detailing Channel thanks for explaining Jon. It. makes sense the way that you have explained it. I look forward to Tuesday’s episode.

  • @Stickymicky25
    @Stickymicky25 6 років тому

    Great vid Jon, I’ve been looking for. Upgrade to my das6 pro plays for some time, and I think this might be that upgrade! Did you you try it with microfibre pads? I’ve always tend to lean on mf pads for cutting and foam for finishing...?

  • @groundcontrol6876
    @groundcontrol6876 5 років тому +1

    My 3401’s shroud gets to the point where it can burn you.

  • @DonDomel
    @DonDomel 4 роки тому

    VRG or MILLE ? which better for you ?

  • @ONI1013.
    @ONI1013. 4 роки тому

    Is the Mille able to cut as good as the Flex 3401? I heard that it generally takes _longer_ to cut the same amount as the Flex, but does it have the same cutting ability as the Flex? I have been using the weaker PC 7424XP for over 8 years, and it works great for minor/medium defects but I’ve found it doesn’t quite have the power to take out deeper scratches on harder surfaces- even with aggressive compound and pads. Speed and Efficiency is not a factor for me, as I will be only working on my personal cars, so I won’t need to get through many cars quickly.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  4 роки тому

      its about the same.. Literally I dont think you will be able to notice the differnce if you use them at say 1 back from top speed with same pads. dunno though if I had to guess I would say rupes but mainly because its gonna put more pressure down from the added weight...

    • @ONI1013.
      @ONI1013. 4 роки тому

      Forensic Detailing Channel - Thank you so much for the info. I just bought the Flex before seeing this video, and was wondering if I should’ve gone for the Mille instead. I can still return the Flex, but it may not be worth it just for the added “smoothness” and “less fatigue” since I will only these use these polishers infrequently.

  • @rosekberlin
    @rosekberlin 6 років тому

    on my lhr15 mark2 there was only two speed settings... 1 and 6. All other SpeedSettings i dont use. how is it on the Mille ? If i polish a hard paint like bmw or mercedes ? start with speed 5-6 and medium armspeed, medium pressure ? If cut isnt enough, lower armspeed or more pressure ? Im so exited. Get my mille next week

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      it really depends on pad and abrasive choices, what your doing, like you say what your working on. generally I never run them at full speed.. typically I find with heavy compounds and a hard pad top whack tends to generate enough heat to dry the abrasives out a bit quicker... (on foam anyway)

  • @Sam-kw9wd
    @Sam-kw9wd 5 років тому

    whats the biggest difference for the mille vs 15mk2? i have the mk2. Should i buy the mille(blackfriday special)?

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  5 років тому

      sam have a watch of picking your first polisher video. the biggest difference is forced rotation steer (push me pull you/judder) versus the benefits of the machine not being able to stall out.

  • @cristofersumiok9779
    @cristofersumiok9779 4 роки тому

    sir what best speed to cut in mille?? thank you

  • @motiOn732
    @motiOn732 6 років тому

    Semi off your comment: have you heard of maxshine polishers?

  • @trickytricky100
    @trickytricky100 6 років тому

    Hi John grate blog m8, john i see some of you latter logs on how to make your own wax thanks, but like me and i bet so many of us are intrested in a waterless wash spray, one that dont remove wax or add any wax/gloss to mess up whats allready on our paint, was wondering if you can brew up somthing, or no of a blog on this,
    Thanks for any hlep on this.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      I wouldnt know where to start mate with a waterless wash.. it would be a big undertaking I honestly dont have the time to do it. Id be reliant on trying to find what materials they use in them and trying to source them but it would be too hard mate soz.

  • @kongzongleechen1524
    @kongzongleechen1524 6 років тому

    Is it be safe on wax or sealant application ?Some said such forced rotation machine had more power,may not appropriate to apply wax or sealant.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      hmm you could apply a sealant with it on a soft finishing pad, but its a bit on the heavy side..

    • @kongzongleechen1524
      @kongzongleechen1524 6 років тому

      It's truly help.Thank you very much.
      So is that mean the dual action polisher may cover more range of use considering the personal detailer?

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      I personally cant see that many benefits of a free spinning DA over a forced rotation, the main turn off with forced rotation is getting walked by the machine when your using larger pads.. but if you can get a pad combo which works for you and this isnt a problem I find it hard to see why a free spinner DA is that desirable.

    • @kongzongleechen1524
      @kongzongleechen1524 6 років тому

      I sincerely appreciate your help,thanks

  • @Sam-kw9wd
    @Sam-kw9wd 5 років тому

    Howdy lads! im about to buy my first polisher. would anyone recommend the mille over the LHR15 Mark 2? i can only get one. i drive a bmw e90 lci and a cx9 mazda. will one of this be enough to handle all the curves on my cars? thanks (ps i dont want to buy the other polishers ive seen on youtube and end up buying rupes later down the line)

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  5 років тому +1

      have a watch sam of the picking your first machine polisher video on the channel. this should give you all the info you need.

    • @Sam-kw9wd
      @Sam-kw9wd 5 років тому

      Forensic Detailing Channel thanks mate! will do.

  • @kristips4694
    @kristips4694 4 роки тому

    Mark3 or Mille?Whitch is better?

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  4 роки тому

      Ive done a long video on this.. but ill keep it short..l start with the mk3 mate.

  • @Leshrac92
    @Leshrac92 6 років тому +2

    Don't like the MILLE. According to RUPES you must use the entire system developped for the MILLE. I've tested with other pads and/or polishs, compounds etc... and I don't buy it cause you always fighting with the machine. I have never been able to get the control I have with 15 MARKS II.

  • @benoit.gerin-lajoie
    @benoit.gerin-lajoie 6 років тому +1

    Hi buddy, I'm new to the matter and want to equip myself with the tools to wet sand/glaze/compound/polish/wax and this Rupes Mille is what I would love to buy if ever it would be more affordable. Heck, that's life...
    BTW: when beginning a job (compounding/polishing...), can you finish the whole car with the same pad ? Do you have to clean/reform the pad on the way ? How many times ? How ? Wash it in clean water and mild soap ?
    Finally, I would think twice about your ceramical project on your new car (if it's not done yet) : whenever a scratch will appear on your paint, that's when trouble will arise to correcting it ! see : ua-cam.com/video/93MmQhNwqxk/v-deo.html
    Nice new car btw !

  • @martec06
    @martec06 6 років тому

    What about backplate size??

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      I think I lost some of the spec info in the edit. 150ml and 125 ml propriatory plates only.. sloppy of me sorry.

  • @liupohtat3188
    @liupohtat3188 6 років тому

    Nice Review! Will you be reviewing the Makita PO6000C soon? I am really considering getting either the flex 3401 or Makita. Hope you can help me out

    • @marioan3698
      @marioan3698 6 років тому

      Liu Poh Tat I recently bought the PO5000C here in Germany and can’t wait for it to be delivered. In my opinion i prefer the Makita, cause you can switch between forced rotation and normal DA and with the flex you can’t.

    • @gufiaito69able
      @gufiaito69able 6 років тому

      Mario A the da option is useless but the FR is real good

    • @marioan3698
      @marioan3698 6 років тому

      I wouldnt say its useless, you might use it for the application of some protections products like a liquid wax or similar. Doing the same already with my BO6040, but when i tested the handling of the PO5000c i was surprised how good it is compared to my actual one.

  • @jeanstandre
    @jeanstandre 6 років тому

    Where in canada it arounr 200 l 390 $ Canadian

  • @TerrificFlow
    @TerrificFlow 6 років тому

    Oh, red on a bmw is a tough choice... i'm not sure it would suit me either, especially on a sport car

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      I know what you mean.. its just that ive done white silver and black and grey a lot.. imola red was always a cool color on the e46 m3. I think when the car is fully pimped out its gonna look good.

    • @TerrificFlow
      @TerrificFlow 6 років тому

      I look it up, i have to admit that imola red with some black wheel and black accent is pretty sick. Can't wait to see your detail on it. Hope the paint is in decent condition.

    • @ForensicDetailing
      @ForensicDetailing  6 років тому

      when you get the light on it its got a fair amount of swirls but really it should be pretty straightforward and easy to polish this car doesnt need anything too heavy.

  • @Captain-Donut
    @Captain-Donut 6 років тому

    I love my rupes, but their blue compound really put me off overall. It’s horrible. Yes it cuts well but dust like hell. Blue pads just don’t last. That doesn’t male sense to me. How’s can they build fantastic machine but didn’t nail some basic stuff pads and compound.

    • @berczigabor
      @berczigabor 6 років тому

      It totally makes sense from the business perspective to make the base machine last a long time, but not so with the relatively cheap supplies. They cost just a 10-15 bucks each, which appears not so much, so you don't notice that ultimately and over a significant time period you're actually spending a fortune on them.

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 6 років тому

      Mark, how are you setting up the pad?
      It's been a year since I used it with the blue foam. I don't remember it dusting any worse than M100, or FG400.

  • @Eurogloss
    @Eurogloss 5 років тому

    Makita PO6000C Superior Polisher !

  • @alexsaraci7102
    @alexsaraci7102 2 роки тому

    I thought the Italians made sleek and sexy things.

  • @jamesbiedlar590
    @jamesbiedlar590 6 років тому +6

    Just my opinion....but more over hyped...over priced, Junk! 😔

  • @florianhof4010
    @florianhof4010 6 років тому

    Makita PO5000c the better underdog 😉