@@billyshane3804Vince O’Dempsey still alive and at last serving a life sentence. Gary Dubois died in jail a place where he should have been 40 years earlier.
Boxer Johnny Famechon's trainer Ambrose Palmer was at the Victoria Club the day of the Great Bookie Robbery. The masked robbers ordered all those present to get on the floor and when Palmer hesitated, one of them said, "You too, Ambrose." It's said that pretty much signed a death warrant for the thieves because Palmer recognised his voice!
Rumour has it, that a northern suburb's stonemason had access to the Falkner cemetery, 24/7. It was suggested that operation had close ties to the painters and dockers. It was also suggested that business had the opportunity to receive deceased bodies from the underworld killings, and place them in random graves in the older parts of the cemetery, where grave stones were being "renovated". No one would think to look in a random graves, 50 to 100 years old, for a body that was murdered in the 1970s. I don't know if that's true, but sometimes fact is stranger than fiction
As a 67 yr old Victorian in Australia, l , live through the times. They were nothing but cowards who used guns if you beat them in a fight. They got what they ripped. I was a young doorman in the early 1970s at the Rosebud Pub. Because l fought and beat one of the dockers friends then send a hard man ex hit man after me. He would not fight me one on one but wanted me to go behind the pub. I knew what that meant. Anyway l had friends as well in a organisation and when they found out like true cowards left me alone after that.
@@eddiegriffiths830 l come from Glenroy Broadmeadows mate, got expelled from Glenroy Teac for knocking a teacher out inform 3 then went to Broadmeadows Tec then Dromana Tec then Bouncer at Rosebud pub then 8 yrs Navy then 12yrs Army won the Western Australian Heavyweight Championship in Kickboxing 1986 mate so l did survive Broadmeadows mate 😊💪
@@michaelfrost4584 isn’t it funny now all these hard men of the late 60s and 70s are gone and now all these pumpkin heads are throwing their 2 bobs worth in As I said to that knob the rosebud bouncer you wouldn’t last a day in Broadmeadows and neither would most of you knobs🤣🤣🤣
I used to go to water aerobics with Bill “The Texan” Longly 😂😂😂😂 . I didn’t know who he was until one day he told there was an article about him in that day’s newspapers. He was nice, charming old bloke, but every so often you’d get a flash of something a bit sinister in his eye. Apparently he got his name because he used to carry a six shooter. My dad told me the story about Les Kane when I was a kid and I have still to this day never eaten sausages or mince or anything else that wasn’t readily identifiable as not being Les Kane 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
@@glennkiller3195 Indeed. They were also on my “do not eat, possibly contains Les Kane” list. And you’ll never convince me that Four & Twenty pies are not made from finger joints. I lived in Ascot Vale for 20 years during the heady days of Moran v Williams. It was interesting
A couple of points. Firstly it was standard procedure for unarmed police to escort prisoners in court. Strange to think, but that was the protocol all those years ago. There was nothing strange there. But there was a sheet of tin peeled back on the back fence of the court, which lead to the Melbourne CIB carpark. Apparently a corrupt detective drove Brian Kane away from the carpark and he went to Perth to lay low. He was blown away by Russell Cox and Ian Revell Carroll, close friends of Ray Chuck, soon after returning to Melbourne. Funnily enough Cox shot Carroll dead after an argument at a house in mount martha some years later. Secondly, the man who shot Ray Chuck said 'Cop this motherf***er' not 'God bless you bastard' (it was almost certainly Brian Kane).
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie gangster would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who knocked ya brother off. "Cop this motherf***er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie gangster would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who offed ya brother. "Cop this motherf***er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who offed ya brother. "Cop this motherf***er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who offed ya brother. "Cop this motherf'er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
Mate, I'd argue that the gunman who knocked Ray Chuck, might have said a great many things, but none of them would have contained the word "mother'uc'ker, no way known. The word has been popularised by the influence of the 1980s and 1990s "Gangster Rap" scene, and even now, isn't a "term of verbal abuse" that gets any real usage, outside of a "certain melué" of far, far younger, of a different ethnic origin to anyone mentioned in this presentation. I'm not saying that you're lying, no, not at all, but what I am saying is that you might have the "wrong mail" on that race at Flemington. That's all.
Brian the Skull Murphy gave Bill Longley his knick name. Not as incorrect history would have it. Bill, in his early days carried a Browning 9mm Hi Power he also a Browning's F1 Submachine Gun chambered in 9mm and he was already referred to as The Texan. After a shoot out of the docs and his F1 Submachine gun jammed and commenced firing his 9mm Browing Hi Power handgun and it jammed. He then vowed to never use anything chambered in 9mm and got the Colt .45. How he wasn't killed in the hail of bullets is miracle. He parked his bullet riddled car at home. He hid out or went to smoke as the saying goes in Sydney for a while, whilst the dust settled. His car was a right off it had that many bullet holes. He was called the Texan not because he carried a Colt .45. He was the Texan way before the Colt came along
There is an old TV series called 'The Texan', and the main characters name is Bill Longley. He took the name off the TV show, that's how it came about.
That was an interesting vid. Apparently it was no secret where Les Kane lived but Brian had several reidences and never spent more than one night at a time in any of them.
Melbourne was a pretty hard place back in the day. Things have changed a little, but there's a different type of crim nowadays. No sense of honor or respect for civilians. Used to be for the most part crims would leave civilians alone, unless you directly got in their way. Now, any thug that fancies himself as a crim will casually attack anyone for looking at them sideways.
Very true happened to me in 1 1997 I came back from overseas I got job in a retirement village it’s was run by the mafia I left after 6 months and they continued harassing me becuase I didn’t want to be part of there family
Crevelli St had a fair few lads who ended up mischievous. Think the brothers may have lived there...Met many boys from there at the Olynpic hotel in the 90s.
how where they the most feared brothers They were killed There is always someone bigger & stronger R Bennet was not scared He was killed with the help from the establishment
One of the best cities in the world, it's in the top 10 best living cities.figure that considering the history of the Underworld here in melbourne.ta.🇦🇺👍
Yeh. Same as banking, finance and pretty much anyone that donates to parties. We didn't need a banking royal commission? Evidently we did. The CFMEU needs new leadership. I'm sick of it too. I'm sick more with lobbyists and 'career' politicians.
@@spateri728 I worked on the waterfront for a number of years pre1985.Only pointing the finger at unions or certain members when using the word corruption shows that someone does not have an understanding of the bigger picture and how the waterfront worked.I was a union delegate back then for BLF( construction around waterfront). I new John Setka back then and in those days in different,rougher,tougher times.He was seen as a bloke who stood up to be counted and prepared to put himself on the line....I can't comment on him in today's world but I know that construction workers have it better than in my time.The painters and dockers were deregistered because of lack of membership. They needed to have 500?5000?(if my memory is correct) members to be registered
Yeah that was a photo of Russell ""Mad Dog"" Cox. No idea why there is 2 photos of Choppers old buddy Mad Charlie Hideji (or however it spelt though). He didn't have anything to do with the Kane's.
@@Nfg42why not?I get old chop chop is considered a blaw hard as much as he’s considered a hero by some but wasn’t it well known that Charlie was set too take over Melbourne until his death.Anyway personally from what I’ve seen chopper really was a man to b taken seriously in his day and his later years as a writer,media personality and practically a stand up comedian has made it easy for his reputation to b diminished.Not to mention his nature for tall tales
I was born and bred in Melbourne. We’ve a lengthy, rich and often violent history of underworld people and crime here. This was a decent peek into Melbourne’s underbelly. You should dig a little deeper and make a few more videos - I reckon they’d take off.
Australia's underworld started on the day the first shipload of convicts stepped foot on land and has been part of working class culture there non stop up to today. It has had quite a cultural influence, when American kids played Superman Aussie kids played Ned Kelly. Having convict ancestors in Australia is something people there take great pride in, so is being related somehow to a bushranger or a miner at the Eureka blockade.
@@MelbourneMatty yes, the Pettingill - Peirce stuff is fascinating, and of course the Moran, Williams & my personal favourite, Alphonse Gangitano. Underbelly did it brilliantly, totally agree, more videos of this calibre would really take off 👍👍👍
@@lmrk5705I had a quick squiz at some of their other videos. Sadly, I think this channel is entirely AI click-farming. I doubt we’ll see any deeper dives into any requests.
Born in 1969 I have heard some of these names, but was mostly shielded by my parents from ‘anything they thought unsavoury or not appropriate’. Maybe if I was allowed to see the world, I might give a damn aside from my own personalised view that I seem to have today.
All 3 coppers look like they are having a little bit of anxiety at the moment... And look at him just fucking very angry because he's just been pinched.....
Not many of us alive that lived through those days, I do miss a lot of good mates. I will say Aussie crime stuff have some big holes missing in a lot story's 😂 Another word for bullshit is called Artistic Licencing 😂😂 like the underbelly series ect.
Which figures from the Australian Underworld should we cover next? Let us know in the comments 💭 🇦🇺
@@DarkSleuthSecrets The postcard bandit
No one ever seems to cover him
That Barbaro kid, Pasquale or something?
Can you change the narrator accent please? Listening to it is like pulling barbed wire through my ears.
Vincent O'Dempsey and Johnny Regan - "Nano the Magician"
@@billyshane3804Vince O’Dempsey still alive and at last serving a life sentence. Gary Dubois died in jail a place where he should have been 40 years earlier.
Boxer Johnny Famechon's trainer Ambrose Palmer was at the Victoria Club the day of the Great Bookie Robbery. The masked robbers ordered all those present to get on the floor and when Palmer hesitated, one of them said, "You too, Ambrose." It's said that pretty much signed a death warrant for the thieves because Palmer recognised his voice!
Rumour has it, that a northern suburb's stonemason had access to the Falkner cemetery, 24/7.
It was suggested that operation had close ties to the painters and dockers.
It was also suggested that business had the opportunity to receive deceased bodies from the underworld killings, and place them in random graves in the older parts of the cemetery, where grave stones were being "renovated".
No one would think to look in a random graves, 50 to 100 years old, for a body that was murdered in the 1970s. I don't know if that's true, but sometimes fact is stranger than fiction
Fawkner
Yes correct.
Fawkner
As a 67 yr old Victorian in Australia, l , live through the times. They were nothing but cowards who used guns if you beat them in a fight. They got what they ripped. I was a young doorman in the early 1970s at the Rosebud Pub. Because l fought and beat one of the dockers friends then send a hard man ex hit man after me. He would not fight me one on one but wanted me to go behind the pub. I knew what that meant. Anyway l had friends as well in a organisation and when they found out like true cowards left me alone after that.
Hahaha your dreaming mate😂😂😂 bouncer at the rosebud pub ooo that’s scary. You wouldn’t of lasted a day in Broadmeadows
@@eddiegriffiths830 l come from Glenroy Broadmeadows mate, got expelled from Glenroy Teac for knocking a teacher out inform 3 then went to Broadmeadows Tec then Dromana Tec then Bouncer at Rosebud pub then 8 yrs Navy then 12yrs Army won the Western Australian Heavyweight Championship in Kickboxing 1986 mate so l did survive Broadmeadows mate 😊💪
@@michaelfrost4584 legend
@@michaelfrost4584so are you from Melbourne ways or western oz
@@michaelfrost4584 isn’t it funny now all these hard men of the late 60s and 70s are gone and now all these pumpkin heads are throwing their 2 bobs worth in As I said to that knob the rosebud bouncer you wouldn’t last a day in Broadmeadows and neither would most of you knobs🤣🤣🤣
Good Story, from a different era.
Been in Sydney from Sicily 65 years Having a good memory I’m 73 Can relate to All of the History of those days .
I used to go to water aerobics with Bill “The Texan” Longly 😂😂😂😂 . I didn’t know who he was until one day he told there was an article about him in that day’s newspapers. He was nice, charming old bloke, but every so often you’d get a flash of something a bit sinister in his eye. Apparently he got his name because he used to carry a six shooter. My dad told me the story about Les Kane when I was a kid and I have still to this day never eaten sausages or mince or anything else that wasn’t readily identifiable as not being Les Kane 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
You'd have to be more concerned about Dim Sims & Four N Twenty Pies.
It was said that Normie Lee helped dispose of that Mince
@@glennkiller3195 Indeed. They were also on my “do not eat, possibly contains Les Kane” list. And you’ll never convince me that Four & Twenty pies are not made from finger joints. I lived in Ascot Vale for 20 years during the heady days of Moran v Williams. It was interesting
Aye so you did
Ascot Vale leisure centre? He used to sniff around my grandmother at those classes
@glennkiller3195 yew u right my uncle dated his daughter
A couple of points.
Firstly it was standard procedure for unarmed police to escort prisoners in court. Strange to think, but that was the protocol all those years ago. There was nothing strange there. But there was a sheet of tin peeled back on the back fence of the court, which lead to the Melbourne CIB carpark. Apparently a corrupt detective drove Brian Kane away from the carpark and he went to Perth to lay low. He was blown away by Russell Cox and Ian Revell Carroll, close friends of Ray Chuck, soon after returning to Melbourne. Funnily enough Cox shot Carroll dead after an argument at a house in mount martha some years later.
Secondly, the man who shot Ray Chuck said 'Cop this motherf***er' not 'God bless you bastard' (it was almost certainly Brian Kane).
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie gangster would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who knocked ya brother off. "Cop this motherf***er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie gangster would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who offed ya brother. "Cop this motherf***er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who offed ya brother. "Cop this motherf***er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
I knew nothing about any of this but I thought that "God bless you bastard" line didn't sound like something an aussie would say and certainly not something you'd say to someone who offed ya brother. "Cop this motherf'er" sounds much more realistic and appropriate. 🤷♂😂
Mate, I'd argue that the gunman who knocked Ray Chuck, might have said a great many things, but none of them would have contained the word "mother'uc'ker, no way known.
The word has been popularised by the influence of the 1980s and 1990s "Gangster Rap" scene, and even now, isn't a "term of verbal abuse" that gets any real usage, outside of a "certain melué" of far, far younger, of a different ethnic origin to anyone mentioned in this presentation.
I'm not saying that you're lying, no, not at all, but what I am saying is that you might have the "wrong mail" on that race at Flemington. That's all.
Great video. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great doco, was cool to see some photos of these individuals. Gained a new Follower ❤
Brian the Skull Murphy gave Bill Longley his knick name. Not as incorrect history would have it. Bill, in his early days carried a Browning 9mm Hi Power he also a Browning's F1 Submachine Gun chambered in 9mm and he was already referred to as The Texan. After a shoot out of the docs and his F1 Submachine gun jammed and commenced firing his 9mm Browing Hi Power handgun and it jammed. He then vowed to never use anything chambered in 9mm and got the Colt .45. How he wasn't killed in the hail of bullets is miracle. He parked his bullet riddled car at home. He hid out or went to smoke as the saying goes in Sydney for a while, whilst the dust settled. His car was a right off it had that many bullet holes. He was called the Texan not because he carried a Colt .45. He was the Texan way before the Colt came along
There is an old TV series called 'The Texan', and the main characters name is Bill Longley. He took the name off the TV show, that's how it came about.
@robertjames 1324 I’ve heard about that shootout would it have been at the Williamstown naval dockyards ?
Hate the use of AI
I get what you are saying, but i've heard worse AI.
Thank you for this highly competent and informative documentary !
Glad you enjoyed it!🙏🏼
@@DarkSleuthSecretsdo a video of Chris Flannery or Laurie Prendergast
My dad was also a painter & docker
New breed of Criminal with GATTO in the middle hahahaha
I remember my dad telling me how Longley use to go into a pub and take out this big gun and put it on the bar while he was drinking
The last of the Wild West hahaa
Good to see a cameo from the owen gun, about 3:33 in
Good one!
Brilliant summary
Thanks!🙏🏼
That was an interesting vid. Apparently it was no secret where Les Kane lived but Brian had several reidences and never spent more than one night at a time in any of them.
The underbelly version of this story was very good
Underbellys a great series aye.
Which one is it
The second series it’s great
The Great Bookie Robbery version was the best if you ask me
Nice video
Thanks!🙏🏼
Used to go to the Quarry for a meal and to watch AFL games back in the day, years after Kane was killed in there. Nice pub now …
His ghost still hangs around there
@@marky947... If it does.
I'd still avoid it.
I doubt it would be friendly.
Melbourne was a pretty hard place back in the day. Things have changed a little, but there's a different type of crim nowadays. No sense of honor or respect for civilians. Used to be for the most part crims would leave civilians alone, unless you directly got in their way. Now, any thug that fancies himself as a crim will casually attack anyone for looking at them sideways.
Very true happened to me in 1 1997 I came back from overseas I got job in a retirement village it’s was run by the mafia I left after 6 months and they continued harassing me becuase I didn’t want to be part of there family
Do story on Jack Twist Aka Twisty. He was a Docker he shot old mate Freddy
Awesome video the part were he was crushed and minced in is crazy to here I live there
Beef nuggets
Im from Melbourne. Preston,crevelli st. Pretty quiet place now. I moved out of there in mid 90s. .Still Melbourne is a special place to me .
Crevelli St had a fair few lads who ended up mischievous. Think the brothers may have lived there...Met many boys from there at the Olynpic hotel in the 90s.
I grew up in Preston too
🙏 thank you
how where they the most feared brothers
They were killed
There is always someone bigger & stronger
R Bennet was not scared
He was killed with the help from the establishment
Billy Longley was called "The Texan" after the old TV show.
Juesh whats with Melbourne aye?? And, great vid bro, subbed.
Appreciate it!
One of the best cities in the world, it's in the top 10 best living cities.figure that considering the history of the Underworld here in melbourne.ta.🇦🇺👍
@@BenjaminRowe-hc7uo dunno if top ten mate
Brian came to my house to see my dad when I was a kid. Dad always said about Brian, oh, those eyes. Never saw anything like them.
Blue and very cold....
Had a relative who lived next to two painter and dockers, brothers, in the mid 1970's , often wondered if it were the kanes .🤔
could you turn the music up more? i could almost hear what they where saying
I could hear it perfectly fine. Turn your hearing aids up ya sook
Unions and corruption...who would have thought?
Yeh. Same as banking, finance and pretty much anyone that donates to parties. We didn't need a banking royal commission? Evidently we did.
The CFMEU needs new leadership. I'm sick of it too. I'm sick more with lobbyists and 'career' politicians.
@@spateri728 I worked on the waterfront for a number of years pre1985.Only pointing the finger at unions or certain members when using the word corruption shows that someone does not have an understanding of the bigger picture and how the waterfront worked.I was a union delegate back then for BLF( construction around waterfront). I new John Setka back then and in those days in different,rougher,tougher times.He was seen as a bloke who stood up to be counted and prepared to put himself on the line....I can't comment on him in today's world but I know that construction workers have it better than in my time.The painters and dockers were deregistered because of lack of membership. They needed to have 500?5000?(if my memory is correct) members to be registered
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ right alongside govt and police corruption.
That still photo of detectives surrounding a man in a singlet. I believe that was Russel Cox.
Yeah that was a photo of Russell ""Mad Dog"" Cox.
No idea why there is 2 photos of Choppers old buddy Mad Charlie Hideji (or however it spelt though). He didn't have anything to do with the Kane's.
Chopper & mad charlie belted Lez in pentridge and threw him out in the yard with a broken leg
Chopper and machine gun Charlie..😂
I don’t think so buddy
@@Nfg42why not?I get old chop chop is considered a blaw hard as much as he’s considered a hero by some but wasn’t it well known that Charlie was set too take over Melbourne until his death.Anyway personally from what I’ve seen chopper really was a man to b taken seriously in his day and his later years as a writer,media personality and practically a stand up comedian has made it easy for his reputation to b diminished.Not to mention his nature for tall tales
Brian Kane saved Bertie Kidd from the Toe Cutter gang
good info, great narration. but the AI pics are really spell breaking and crappy
My goodness! No wonder Mum died if she had to wait for an American ambulance.
80s melbourne 😎😎
I was born and bred in Melbourne. We’ve a lengthy, rich and often violent history of underworld people and crime here.
This was a decent peek into Melbourne’s underbelly. You should dig a little deeper and make a few more videos - I reckon they’d take off.
Australia's underworld started on the day the first shipload of convicts stepped foot on land and has been part of working class culture there non stop up to today. It has had quite a cultural influence, when American kids played Superman Aussie kids played Ned Kelly. Having convict ancestors in Australia is something people there take great pride in, so is being related somehow to a bushranger or a miner at the Eureka blockade.
@@MelbourneMatty yes, the Pettingill - Peirce stuff is fascinating, and of course the Moran, Williams & my personal favourite, Alphonse Gangitano. Underbelly did it brilliantly, totally agree, more videos of this calibre would really take off 👍👍👍
@@lmrk5705I had a quick squiz at some of their other videos. Sadly, I think this channel is entirely AI click-farming. I doubt we’ll see any deeper dives into any requests.
@@MelbourneMatty that’s a shame. How does AI generate videos? I can’t even get ChatGPT to write a decent paragraph 🤷🏻♀️
better off watching CRIME INVESTIGATION AUSTRALIA. A great AUSTRALIAN PRODUCED series
Born in 1969 I have heard some of these names, but was mostly shielded by my parents from ‘anything they thought unsavoury or not appropriate’. Maybe if I was allowed to see the world, I might give a damn aside from my own personalised view that I seem to have today.
Does anyone know what address Les Kane was murdered at?
@Bonniee-p6t where?
Try looking up copies of old newspaper reports that may be on the internet.
@@265hemi7 Yeah have tried that...all I can find is that it was a unit in Wantirna South
Underworld is thriving
Ahmed’s now
@@madspartan AUSTRALIA MATE
The story about Les’ death was pretty accurate but a few things are wrong.
We all knew what cops were involved. Same cops Dennis Allan was paying.
Amen!
All 3 coppers look like they are having a little bit of anxiety at the moment... And look at him just fucking very angry because he's just been pinched.....
Britain had the kray twins!
ya missed out on a lot of "accidents" that have happened over the years
Not many of us alive that lived through those days, I do miss a lot of good mates. I will say Aussie crime stuff have some big holes missing in a lot story's 😂
Another word for bullshit is called Artistic Licencing 😂😂 like the underbelly series ect.
9:15 they are Bikie rules
Why😂is the photo of Russell being yoused for.....
Genral and Texern
Biggest criminals in melbourne these are vicpol.
Didn't chopper stab one oth these guys?
My father was in the armed robbery squad and delt with these guys
The Kane's are nothing but bullies
90 K in mums underwear lol that is a complete load of bullshit 😅
Les Kane for Grain ... "Apparently" he went though a blood and bone machine..
Watch the TV series Underbelly-A tale of 2 cities
Australia's deadliest men??????🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..yeah sure mate, whatever ya reckon..
I think the descents are on the central coast 😮
That’ll do now 🤫
90000 dollars in her underwear??
Big coin purse
Huge bloomers😅
We're they jewish..
the kanes pale in comparison to dan andrews crimes!
😂😂 100%
lol