Expanding on using a performance, you can change the MIDI channel on any of the voices that make up the performance and use a smallish MIDI controller set to send only on the separate MIDI channel, so something like a lead patch can always be available to play from the controller.
Exactly. And honestly, there are keyboards at all kinds of different price points, both high and low, that cover functionality like this, so it doesn't have to cost you more than you can afford. Thanks for the comment! 👍
The main advantage to having just one that can do what you want is ,Focus. I made a huge mistake when starting to buy for just pleasure and purchased and grabbed every vst both free and some purchased in addition or several keyboatds and guitar and pedal. Now I have option paralysis and need to just grab one and put the rest away until I can fully absorb what it can do.🤔🎶🎹🎶Play On
@@fabiancosster2992 Glad to hear we have been able to help you! Please let us know if there are any other questions you need help answering and we will do our best to help. Also if you are looking to improve your performances, please check us out at dannyrobertsonmusic.com!
I use 2 Roland Fantoms on stage with my Jazz/Afro Beat band and when I hit with Jody Watley. I can stack 16 different sounds in any configuration accessing them with loosing polyphony. I can organize my sound in a visual set list on the keyboard. It's an amazing board. Best purchase I've made.
You do have some valid points, but I'm not seeing any instances where you have two sounds that are in the same frequency range , but one sound is gated and the other has an arpeggiator. A song example being "Bizarre Love Triangle" by New Order.
@@brettmarlar4154 Thanks! We basically kept this video generalized so as to explain the concept as a whole. In the case of what you're talking about with sounds that fill the same frequency range, I personally would be looking at how I could eq this to enhance the parts of each frequency I want to hear more. ie Which synth patch should highlight the lower frequencies, which should highlight the higher frequencies etc. Maybe that's looking like another video 🤞 Thanks for the great comment!
Roland Fantom (released in 2019) and Fantom-0 series run in "performance mode" by default - its called "scene" there (Fantom also has a "single mode" but its main purpose is browsing through the sound/patches without changing your current scene). I believe the same is valid for Yamaha Montage and other modern workstation and stage/performance keyboards like Nord.
I am sure you are right. You came go much deeper with these boards than I've shown here. I know several folks who will use the keyboard scene changes to send midi changes to something like a drum pad so that their drummer has the corresponding sounds they need. It's all a matter of how much you want to learn and do.
I have the O Series. I love it. Did you know that the alto sax goes up the minor scale when you use the pitch bend with it? My favorite is the organ. The leslie is just great. i've downloaded newer sounds off the roland website. Best board for me.
Most people don't take the time to learn their boards so they bring one for piano, another for organ, another for bells etc. Also the "show" element of bringing a lot of gear is appealing for many. It is incredible what is possible to create with only one keyboard even from 20 years ago (splits, layers, samples etc.)
Great comment! Couldn't agree with you more and it really does boil down to 'taking the time' to learn. Most boards have a lot of potential if you choose to figure it out a bit. Thank you for the comment!
Wrong. Most people bring just one board and only play one sound, not utilizing any of the split and layer capabilities. Most of the time they only play a piano sound.. People that bring more board usually know their stuff and want different keybeds etc.
On the Roland Integra 7, it’s called a studio set. If I performed publicly, I would use a Kurzweil SP7 Grand and the Roland Integra 7 to supplement it.
I bought my Yamaha S80 in 2000 and Motif 8 in 2002. Each time the performance mode was explained, I got bogged down in the implementation. It just wasn't worth the trial, error, frustration, in the setup and then actual performance. Your video makes we want make another attempt at learning it.
I get that. It can be frustrating when you can't get the instrument to do what you want . Definitely keep trying. Here are two more videos that could help with the motif (Which version by the way? 2002 probably means the original release?) Here's one of mine about using a "pattern" mode to create sections of songs with multiple parts like drums, bass, and keys: www.dannyrobertsonmusic.com/blog/unleash-the-power-of-your-keyboard-sequencer-for-live-shows This is great series of Blake Angelos, a Yamaha rep who gave a cool demo of the Motif XF (5-Part Series): ua-cam.com/video/eBj4xMs_jJk/v-deo.htmlsi=Rh9wpccWR2tdFLFE Best of luck and hope these help! Let us know if you have more questions!
I recall a USO show around 1986 in which there was a singer and keyboard player who had all his orchestrations and drums programmed on a Mac PC. Now, with some of these arranger keyboards he could replace her with samples, and his computer with a thumb drive and registration settings.
The technology has come so far. It's amazing isn't it?!? A laptop computer 20 years ago might have only had around 30GB. Now, we have tiny chips with a terabyte of space the size of a fingernail!
in the 90's was probably my most insane stage setup. 5-7 keyboards with some rack modules thrown in. And I used it all!! Fast forward to 2012, my stage setup was 2 boards - an Alesis QS8 and a 61 key controller running my laptop with Cantabile, NI B4II and Arturia stuff. Both boards ran the computer at the same time, different sounds. I was fortunate that it never failed me live. HOWEVER, my QS8 was set up just as you are showing, with up to 4 layers per Performance "just in case". Now, I was forced to retire from the stage in 2014 (nerve damage in my right shoulder made my hand inconsistent) but to this day I still have those same Performances loaded in my QS8 (which is now my main studio controller). You see guys like Gowan (Styx) and Jordan Rudess going on stage with just 1 board, but if you dig deeper there is outboard that gets routed into the controls of the board, so sometimes it is a balancing act.....
Wow! I can't imagine 5-7 boards with me on stage. It would be fun to play but terrible for load in/ load off. Hats off to you. Did that have anything to do with the nerve damage in your shoulder? I also used a QS8 for many years and later as a controller for a Yamaha rack. These days, I find that the less I need, the better. A couple friends actually got to play with Jordan Rudess and he's awesome to say the least. I've seen Gowan live twice and he is not only a great player, but an incredible entertainer. Met Tommy Shaw at one of those shows too!
@@dannyrobertsonmusic actually, my day job did me in. I was a residential contractor and had an incident with a ladder that tore my shoulder up. Load in/out WAS a bear and I don't miss that. I do miss being on stage though after nearly 40 years in bands...
Yes! That is correct. The keyboard used in this video is actually considered an arranger workstation, but the principle applies to many keyboards and arranger workstations. All with slight variations on the way each keyboard operates.
Thanks for this. Hey I am glad you mentioned the backup rig you bring with you. Though I disagree with Performance mode being the most powerful live mode on the Motif - I think the 8 parts and scenes of the Song mode make it the best live mode (not fun to program though). I've gone from MoXF to MODX so that question is moot now :)
Just a matter of where you want your money and convenience. I'm a Mainstage guy- I create a patch for every song and before the gig place them in setlist order. One button on my smaller keyboard changes to the next song and all the settings are right where I want them. The primay Mac is rack mounted with my band's mixer so set up is literally just plugging in the usb cables and opening the software. The two keyboards I use combined cost $500. If things go down on my Mac, which has not happened in years of being a Mainstage user I have my older Mac with me and it has a slightly older copy of the same file. Would only be missing the most recent additions to the setlist.
Mainstage is a great software and as I say in most of my videos, this is mostly up to your personal opinions and preferences. Glad you found something that works well for you!
No I have not and most of my familiarity with Akai has been from seeing other players use it. Am I right in thinking that the Key 61 is the first Akai keyboard that can be used standalone separate from a computer? 🖥️
@@dannyrobertsonmusic yes ur correct....its more like a DAW....but it does have its own version of performace mode..im still getting familar after several months...
Keep working on it my friend! It's great to learn what your board is capable of. Just remember that in performing, that stuff can be important, but remember to put on a good show too. If you haven't seen our site yet, check out dannyrobertsonmusic.com. We teach a lot about the performance side of being on stage. Best of luck!
Ahahaa men, am open second secret for you, you can use different sounds wth velocity sprcial settings, reference - you play all renge piano 0-127 vel, but, if you play wth 100-127 velocity, bruss includs to piano, and if your keys can make it, you can have spleat mode with crossfade volume )) And oth...... ))
Lol just old gear, synth, eclectic piano and paddles. But you are right this is just way more effective, a really nice piece of gear is practical if you do covers. I just like unique sounds for in a band writing its own material, the sounds at 12:45 are well yeah, don't do general midi you guys.
I sang a show a week ago where the keyboardist had a major problem with his laptop at soundcheck and had to go to a backup option. I find the simplest solution on stage usually works the best. Thanks for commenting!
Expanding on using a performance, you can change the MIDI channel on any of the voices that make up the performance and use a smallish MIDI controller set to send only on the separate MIDI channel, so something like a lead patch can always be available to play from the controller.
So true. I have friends that do something similar to control a drum pad setup for the drummer.
There’s a reason Montage, RD2000, Kronos, Stage 4, MP7SE etc. exist. They might cost a motza, but you don’t NEED a computer as well.
Exactly. And honestly, there are keyboards at all kinds of different price points, both high and low, that cover functionality like this, so it doesn't have to cost you more than you can afford. Thanks for the comment! 👍
The main advantage to having just one that can do what you want is ,Focus. I made a huge mistake when starting to buy for just pleasure and purchased and grabbed every vst both free and some purchased in addition or several keyboatds and guitar and pedal. Now I have option paralysis and need to just grab one and put the rest away until I can fully absorb what it can do.🤔🎶🎹🎶Play On
I chose the Kurzweil PC361 because of its ability to layer EIGHT sounds and to control them with switches and sliders in setup mode.
Kurzweil is an amazing brand and a lot of the great keyboardists of the last 40 years have played them. Eight sounds! Love it!
Good advice for sure. I currently you 2 keyboards but no other computer or tablet patches.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you found the setup that works well for you.
Many many thanks for your channel.This is what i am looking for.A guide how to use my keyboard for better performance.
@@fabiancosster2992 Glad to hear we have been able to help you! Please let us know if there are any other questions you need help answering and we will do our best to help. Also if you are looking to improve your performances, please check us out at dannyrobertsonmusic.com!
I use 2 Roland Fantoms on stage with my Jazz/Afro Beat band and when I hit with Jody Watley. I can stack 16 different sounds in any configuration accessing them with loosing polyphony. I can organize my sound in a visual set list on the keyboard. It's an amazing board. Best purchase I've made.
Oh wow. Jody Watley!? Congrats on your success. I bet there have been some great shows with that group!
You do have some valid points, but I'm not seeing any instances where you have two sounds that are in the same frequency range , but one sound is gated and the other has an arpeggiator. A song example being "Bizarre Love Triangle" by New Order.
@@brettmarlar4154 Thanks! We basically kept this video generalized so as to explain the concept as a whole. In the case of what you're talking about with sounds that fill the same frequency range, I personally would be looking at how I could eq this to enhance the parts of each frequency I want to hear more. ie Which synth patch should highlight the lower frequencies, which should highlight the higher frequencies etc.
Maybe that's looking like another video 🤞 Thanks for the great comment!
Roland Fantom (released in 2019) and Fantom-0 series run in "performance mode" by default - its called "scene" there (Fantom also has a "single mode" but its main purpose is browsing through the sound/patches without changing your current scene). I believe the same is valid for Yamaha Montage and other modern workstation and stage/performance keyboards like Nord.
I am sure you are right. You came go much deeper with these boards than I've shown here. I know several folks who will use the keyboard scene changes to send midi changes to something like a drum pad so that their drummer has the corresponding sounds they need. It's all a matter of how much you want to learn and do.
I have the O Series. I love it. Did you know that the alto sax goes up the minor scale when you use the pitch bend with it? My favorite is the organ. The leslie is just great. i've downloaded newer sounds off the roland website. Best board for me.
Very cool! I know a lot of people who love that board! Keep up the good work my friend!
Most people don't take the time to learn their boards so they bring one for piano, another for organ, another for bells etc. Also the "show" element of bringing a lot of gear is appealing for many. It is incredible what is possible to create with only one keyboard even from 20 years ago (splits, layers, samples etc.)
Great comment! Couldn't agree with you more and it really does boil down to 'taking the time' to learn. Most boards have a lot of potential if you choose to figure it out a bit. Thank you for the comment!
Wrong. Most people bring just one board and only play one sound, not utilizing any of the split and layer capabilities. Most of the time they only play a piano sound..
People that bring more board usually know their stuff and want different keybeds etc.
@@martinjmusic😂 what?
On the Roland Integra 7, it’s called a studio set. If I performed publicly, I would use a Kurzweil SP7 Grand and the Roland Integra 7 to supplement it.
Very cool. I'm less familiar with the Integra 7, but if it's Roland, I'm sure it sounds great.
I bought my Yamaha S80 in 2000 and Motif 8 in 2002. Each time the performance mode was explained, I got bogged down in the implementation. It just wasn't worth the trial, error, frustration, in the setup and then actual performance. Your video makes we want make another attempt at learning it.
I get that. It can be frustrating when you can't get the instrument to do what you want . Definitely keep trying. Here are two more videos that could help with the motif (Which version by the way? 2002 probably means the original release?)
Here's one of mine about using a "pattern" mode to create sections of songs with multiple parts like drums, bass, and keys: www.dannyrobertsonmusic.com/blog/unleash-the-power-of-your-keyboard-sequencer-for-live-shows
This is great series of Blake Angelos, a Yamaha rep who gave a cool demo of the Motif XF (5-Part Series): ua-cam.com/video/eBj4xMs_jJk/v-deo.htmlsi=Rh9wpccWR2tdFLFE
Best of luck and hope these help! Let us know if you have more questions!
I recall a USO show around 1986 in which there was a singer and keyboard player who had all his orchestrations and drums programmed on a Mac PC. Now, with some of these arranger keyboards he could replace her with samples, and his computer with a thumb drive and registration settings.
The technology has come so far. It's amazing isn't it?!? A laptop computer 20 years ago might have only had around 30GB. Now, we have tiny chips with a terabyte of space the size of a fingernail!
@@dannyrobertsonmusic yeah, it is amazing considering 128K was the big time in the beginning... the kids look at that as cave man days.
Cave men are the coolest anyway!
in the 90's was probably my most insane stage setup. 5-7 keyboards with some rack modules thrown in. And I used it all!! Fast forward to 2012, my stage setup was 2 boards - an Alesis QS8 and a 61 key controller running my laptop with Cantabile, NI B4II and Arturia stuff. Both boards ran the computer at the same time, different sounds. I was fortunate that it never failed me live. HOWEVER, my QS8 was set up just as you are showing, with up to 4 layers per Performance "just in case". Now, I was forced to retire from the stage in 2014 (nerve damage in my right shoulder made my hand inconsistent) but to this day I still have those same Performances loaded in my QS8 (which is now my main studio controller). You see guys like Gowan (Styx) and Jordan Rudess going on stage with just 1 board, but if you dig deeper there is outboard that gets routed into the controls of the board, so sometimes it is a balancing act.....
Wow! I can't imagine 5-7 boards with me on stage. It would be fun to play but terrible for load in/ load off. Hats off to you. Did that have anything to do with the nerve damage in your shoulder?
I also used a QS8 for many years and later as a controller for a Yamaha rack. These days, I find that the less I need, the better.
A couple friends actually got to play with Jordan Rudess and he's awesome to say the least. I've seen Gowan live twice and he is not only a great player, but an incredible entertainer. Met Tommy Shaw at one of those shows too!
@@dannyrobertsonmusic actually, my day job did me in. I was a residential contractor and had an incident with a ladder that tore my shoulder up. Load in/out WAS a bear and I don't miss that. I do miss being on stage though after nearly 40 years in bands...
I am sorry to hear that. Maybe there will be a sit-down option for you in the coming years!
It also applies for professional arranger workstations...?
Yes! That is correct. The keyboard used in this video is actually considered an arranger workstation, but the principle applies to many keyboards and arranger workstations. All with slight variations on the way each keyboard operates.
Thanks for this. Hey I am glad you mentioned the backup rig you bring with you. Though I disagree with Performance mode being the most powerful live mode on the Motif - I think the 8 parts and scenes of the Song mode make it the best live mode (not fun to program though). I've gone from MoXF to MODX so that question is moot now :)
Thanks for the comment and totally safe to disagree here! I've also used the pattern mode quite a bit myself. How do you like the MODX?
Just a matter of where you want your money and convenience. I'm a Mainstage guy- I create a patch for every song and before the gig place them in setlist order. One button on my smaller keyboard changes to the next song and all the settings are right where I want them. The primay Mac is rack mounted with my band's mixer so set up is literally just plugging in the usb cables and opening the software. The two keyboards I use combined cost $500. If things go down on my Mac, which has not happened in years of being a Mainstage user I have my older Mac with me and it has a slightly older copy of the same file. Would only be missing the most recent additions to the setlist.
Mainstage is a great software and as I say in most of my videos, this is mostly up to your personal opinions and preferences. Glad you found something that works well for you!
@@dannyrobertsonmusic I will be checking out more of your videos! this was just the first the algorithm gave me.
@@Jonathan-Hamlett Awesome and thank you! Let us know if there is a topic you want us to try!
Careful on sampling for live use playing gigs. Just saying, great video and good content. Cheers & beers... Kujo 😎
Noted! Thanks for the comment!
u ever had a opportunity to use the Akai key 61?....whats your thoughts...i have one
No I have not and most of my familiarity with Akai has been from seeing other players use it. Am I right in thinking that the Key 61 is the first Akai keyboard that can be used standalone separate from a computer? 🖥️
@@dannyrobertsonmusic yes ur correct....its more like a DAW....but it does have its own version of performace mode..im still getting familar after several months...
Keep working on it my friend! It's great to learn what your board is capable of. Just remember that in performing, that stuff can be important, but remember to put on a good show too.
If you haven't seen our site yet, check out dannyrobertsonmusic.com. We teach a lot about the performance side of being on stage. Best of luck!
Great stuff thank you
Thank you for saying something!
Ahahaa men, am open second secret for you, you can use different sounds wth velocity sprcial settings, reference - you play all renge piano 0-127 vel, but, if you play wth 100-127 velocity, bruss includs to piano, and if your keys can make it, you can have spleat mode with crossfade volume )) And oth...... ))
Love this extra bit of great info. Thank you for sharing with everyone!
Lol just old gear, synth, eclectic piano and paddles. But you are right this is just way more effective, a really nice piece of gear is practical if you do covers. I just like unique sounds for in a band writing its own material, the sounds at 12:45 are well yeah, don't do general midi you guys.
I sang a show a week ago where the keyboardist had a major problem with his laptop at soundcheck and had to go to a backup option. I find the simplest solution on stage usually works the best. Thanks for commenting!
@@dannyrobertsonmusic easy means less change for failure which is before or during the performane indeed wise choise,