Ep 134 - Plank Ya Boat Time!
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- More rotten planks found on the boat! Time to sort them out!
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About Sarinda - ML1392
Wartime Activities
6/44 Operation Neptune Invasion of Normandy
149th ML Flotilla
ML1295, ML1309, ML1383, ML1387, ML1389, ML1391, ML1392, ML1393, ML1407, ML1409, ML1421. ML1422
6/6/44 Channel Marker at Gold Beach on D-Day
Distributing instructions in the assault anchorage after the first landings in Normandy (Gazette Date - 19/12/44)
6/3/45 Captured a German Biber Type midget submarine off Breskens in the Scheldt Estuary. Eleven Bibers had sortied that day. Four were found abandoned along the coast at North Beveland, Knocke, Domberg and Zeebrugge.
One was sunk by gunfire off Westkapelle on 8 March and five vanished.
Post War Fate
1946 Fast Despatch Boat = FDB73
10/47 HM Customs & Excise = Valiant
1967 Sold = Frol - Pejo
1974 =Sarinda (Charter work on Crinan Canal)
1980-91 Extensive conversion to luxury motor yacht
11/95 Base ported at Liverpool
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I am 80 years old and your ship is in better shape than I am. Love your channel.
Lol. That's a cute statement.😊😄
I too am 80 years old and love watching you two at work, what a team! Thank you for both the entertainment and restoring my faith in human nature, the way you work together is an example to us all, I have sent a small “thank you” and look torward to the next episode.
Awesome! Thank you so much Peter xx
You two are great ive had wooden boats for years, but now the years have taken their toll and you two give me so much pleasure and bring a smile to my face when i was just your age renovating boatsThank you keep up the good work you are an amazing team!!!!!!! Christopher
😂😂 I understand why some people moan on about rot , I’d be worried too only because I’m crap at woodworking, Simons the right man for this boat ! So are you Gem 😉
Didn't know there are so few HDMLs (Harbour Defence Motor Launches) left. So glad that Sarinda is in such caring, capable hands. She is going to look amazing (again) when completed.
Sarinda is a few weeks older than me, and although I've no one to renew my beam shelve I'm hoping to see her at the 85 anniversary of the D Day landings. I'm in awe at what you are achieving.
Amazing tenacity - well done both of you.. Gemma loves “PAINT YOUR BOAT TIME”.
your ship is 80 years and it wood. they built to last weeks in combat during into war. but the fact it still with you is amazing and i am 64 and i got old age pains . no difference with boat / yes Rome was not was built in day. well com enters i do not see them giving you hand. so salute to your efforts. keep boating. oh my friends canoe was year to make. my boat 12 foot was 3 years i refinsh it again. so do not listen to bad supporters. so boat on. happy family
😂The most fun episode until now seen them all
Paint your boat time (again) Hi from San Diego CA
I just love you pair. Your so hard working and work really well together. Great progress again xxx
as always loads of positivity in the face of incredible challenges!
Our God is the answer to all your problems. He has given you the strength, knowledge, and wisdom, to complete this project. I watch a number of other boating UA-cam builds, and you guys are my favorite. Just remember that our Lord is always with you and if you ask, He will always be there to support you.
I love you are restoring a piece of navy history.. yup a bit of rot but it can be replaced, thing is with old wooden boats is its like opening pandoras box😂
Door skin templates for deck beams. Easy to make and very accurate, light, easy to handle.
It seems appropriate to tackle the beam shelf and the planks on the port side before you tackle the deck beams. And if possible you could use a laser level and measure off that line to define the camber for the deck beams. 😊
That’s a good plan the laser would give a great datum to strike the form lines 👍
Fix a datum post about 6 metres back that's parallel to the stem. Then the laser can be set perpendicular. it wont matter how the ship is lying or floating.
Love feeling like we're involved, from a distance. Especially being a patron and seeing this way before the general public. They should all become patrons too!
You are all involved! We couldn't do this without all the help from our awesome patreons xx
You obviously had skills from you business but its a pleasure to watch you become shipwrights. Amzing couple, I would have retired to the pub long ago in a sulk.
I worked on a trawler that needed new deck beams .New planks inside under the deck fixed from the outside ,more planks screwed under the deck .Then the top screws were removed to get the beam out ,taken to the work shop fixed to 1 inch ply used as
When you're working outside and on the deck, it must be really tempting to drop all the junky bits overboard and down into the mud. But you don't (or at least on camera you don't)! Very impressive.
We try and keep it all as clean and tidy as we can, and take everything home with us to dispose of
There is a lot of great days ahead for you,and your boat, you are saving her life and enhancing yours, and it gives you lots of memory's which a lot of people never have....
I have easily spent more time repairing boats than sailing them. I have always found it really worth while. Funny thing is once completed I have rarely kept the boat more than a season before selling it and starting again with something even more ambitious. Well I didn't say I was sane did I 🙂
I'd say your are financially astute; boats are expensive to maintain and run. Your sanity is secure.
@@phenogen8125 Thanks for that sentiment but I keep looking, and have seen another one and I'm using all my will power and good sense in an effort not to buy it or make an offer - the danger of course is they may except it 🙂
Use a string line from beam shelf to beam shelf. Measure height from sring to apex on centre line.
Loft curve onto garage floor. Use the curve for each respective cross beam.
Btw, I was working on a WWII hospital boat in a restoration area. It was too big a job for me and no financial input so I let it go.
The boat was called Meriwee. It appears to be a twin for yours structurally but had an operating theatre aft of the cockpit. It evacuated wounded soldiers from Papua New Guinea.
I have a copy of the plans in Australia but no access at present.
Normally I live South of Brisbane Queensland (where Meriwee is), but I'm in Formby at present. Small world.
I agree with you that taking the curvature of the bulkhead is a great idea. but keep in mind that the old navy-superstructure probably stood on top of that bulkhead, so it might not really have a curvature to it. is that bulkhead underneath the front face of your wheelhouse? for structural strength you could choose to make a heavier beam underneath the point where the deck planks turn into your walkways on either side of the wheelhouse, that would also enable you to keep the floor of your superstructure level. oh, and maybe it would be nice to put something in the place of the old deck gun, just for visual reference to what she looked like in wartime. maybe something that doubles as a party table, airconditioning inlet or a glass dome to get some sunlight below deck.
I love the way you two keep learning on the job, keep up the good work!
Keep going and it will get done!!
always love the episodes. In school , shipwright, the parabolic curve formula was taught, so you could layout the beams from the drawings. I might be able to send the links, others can also snip the drawing you put up and plot the parabolic for each deck beam. Plots were ink on painted thin ply, then make up the bucks for laminations.
You two are such hard workers well done
Sarinda will always be the best to you, because she's yours. Keep up the good work! She's coming along brilliantly.
I think you could use a trick we used to use in building wooden fences to get your arches duplicated. Simply take the beam you want to duplicate and drill a screw in on either end letting it stand proud. Measure the distance between them. Tie a string tightly between the screws. Measure the height in the center of the arch. Make sure that you're measuring allowing for the distance of the screws to the bottom (or top) of the beam. Take a long board and drive three screws one on either end the same distance apart as the ones you used on the boat. Tie a string tightly between them. Take a third screw and screw it in the same distance above the string in the middle. We used fiberglass tension rods used on chain-link fencing but other material could work equally well. Place it so it is in contact with all three screws, draw your line along it and cut it. Much easier to do than to explain.
The method I've seen is make up some short thin ply templates glued together and pinned as close as you can get along the side of the beam and touching the the top edge of the beam you want to copy. Then use a long strip of bendy wood and lightly nail at centre and one at each end so it's touching the deck. You may find the curve isn't very even with just three points and may need some at intermediate distances and you should get a nice smooth curve along the top edge of the beam. You can then draw around the inside edge of the stripwood onto the templates. Best to draw where the templates overlap each other and number them as it's likely to come apart when you remove it. Remove and reassemble templates back in the work shop and cut them along the curve you drew. Test on a scrap piece of thin ply or hardboard and use that as a test against the original beam and you can easily tweak that to fit nicely. You then have a master template. Hope this makes sense. Instead of bendy wood you could try the pencil through a block of wood method to transfer the shape but that doesn't always produce a nice curve😎
@@Pilotltd The curve is 'perfectly even' because the fiberglass rod bends evenly. I've used this technique hundreds of times and every one was perfect and matched the next panel perfectly. Not saying your method wont work but, it seems like a lot more work.
@@flick22601 It's a technique used by shop/kitchen fitters and also boat builders. Watch some of Sampson Boat Co videos
I could find myself in the path of a herd of stampeding elephants and start laughing because I would know I have zero problems compared to the 2 of you renovating this ship. I laid an envelope on my computer screen with the edge touching the bottom of the beam shown in the blueprint...if I knew the scale I could easily calculate the curve of the beams. I assume the beams all have the same degree of arc: the longer the beam, the more apparent curve. The shorter, the more apparently straight. For my guitars I have metal templates that tell me the side-to-side arc of the necks so I can match that arc on new bridges. It would be easy to draw several arcs on paper to discover the arc on the blueprints.
While camber does add structural integrity to the deck, it's primary purpose was originally to encourage water run off. So you're free to make the camber what you will, as long as it's enough to prevent deck flex under load...
On a boat like that there will be a consistent radius on any run of deck. The only place where there might be a change is if there is a break in the deck. The drawing should show the maximum camber at the longest deck beam if it doesn't give the beam radius. When you laminate the new beams use a minimum of five laminates to minimize spring back.
Doing a great job. I would say the profile for the deck beams would be the same.
Paint your boat time! 🇨🇦
Drawings are really cool! It's finish the boat time, One down two to go. Smile. Love you two.
the deck can be what ever you want it to be
26:55..."It's paint your boat time!" :)
You both work so hard and we enjoy it. Thank you
Another interesting blog hope you survived todays tide and. winds o.k it was bloody rough along the coast .. waves topping the sea defences at llandullas
It’s paint your boat time look forward to seeing all your new videos the progress and how well you two work together plus how you include your children!! Well done!!
Thanks 👍
and here I thought it was tea time...
cheers from the YVR
It's paint your boat time. Yeah 😊
Paint your boat TIME!!!!!!!!!!
You have done absolutely loads Gemma, every new bit of timber going on is loads more than she had before and more power to you both 👍
Having replaced deck beams of this type on SS Toroa it is quite simple.
Take a string from side to side across the boat at the lower edge of the deck beam then measure and record at regular spaces from the bottom of the beam down to the string. Repeating this on three or more beams along the length that you intend to work will show up any change in camber when you lay out the measurements on a layout board.
I am always very impressed by your planning and execution of all your work, well done, as always!
Don't let negative comments get to you. You have come a long way and in time, this boat of yours will be a masterpiece. It really is a grand old beauty and you are adding to its majesty. I love your videos. Thank you for filming.
One method to get that radius, run a taunt line across the edge of the ceiling across, and from the center point of the line measure up to the ceiling. You know the length of the string, the distance to ceiling. You can draw that down on the floor and with a baton make a fair curve..
Hey you two, just picking up on your point of enjoying a boat, even if it isn't sailing. I had a French fishing boat from the late 1800's during the 1970s and 80's. It was in dry dock all of the time I owned it. I completely refurbed it and so thoroughly enjoyed working on it and like you, doing restorative works properly. I never sailed it but that boat saved me mentally. Your doing a great, great job and through you - I'm still restoring the boat I no longer own. Bless ya both.
There is no doubt in my mind that Sarinda will be the best HDML in the world with you two at the helm. Your positive attitude and patience is highly infectioùs 👍.
You guys are amazing. 😍❤🥰💋
Don't even worry about the deck beams until the side planking is done and your ready to do the deck . Don't place the cart before the horse
Good vlog, Guys. There are mathematical calculators online if you have your chord distance (breadth of boat) and mid-ordinate (height from chord to arc). But if you already know the width of the boat and the height of the arc, use a bendy length of wood across the width up to the arc height and draw round the bend. I've had to use steel rules to draw arcs like that on bits of furniture. You can draw and cut that out on one length and use it for a template for all the others. good luck!
It's incredible that you have come so far and haven't lost heart and march on with every new project that crops up and all this and a brilliant you tube channel to boot I have watched every episode and look forward to you repeating the journey from England to France ❤❤
There are already 250+ comments already but here is my 2 pence: use a laser leveler on the reference and measure every 25cm then compare that to the drawings, if they closely match go with that if not, follow the drawings. You do want some crown so water flows off the deck. Do keep in mind that you do have to bend the wood to match.
Yuu`re do in g a fantastic job on this old boat!
Amazing tenacity - well done both of you.
Possible idea would be to try and jack up the deck beams up to original point as close as your eye can find, then set up a laser to read from the top of each beam to the laser to find your deck line,
RED AND GREEN show on the water lol :o). glue instead of duck tape.. well finished watching and when you brought out the duck tape i died lol..
Top Job 🤘
regarding the beam shelf camber, it sounds to me like - it's time to loft the boat - full size. if you have the original "lines & offsets" you should be good to ignore what you've got and "rebuild". Otherwise, if it were me, I'd measure from the outside edge and middle to the floor - at each station, transfer those to a large flat surface - borrow a basket ball or tennis court - then 'fair' the lines to account for the 'sagging'. Good luck!
To find the rise in deck. Run a straight edge from end to end. Measure the center rise. Let’s say it’s 2” then back at shop draw a straight line on table then set a nail at 2” from line at center. Then spring a thin board from nail to outside edge’s and trace the board to get the curve.
Paint your boat time.🎉
Cup of tea time Gemma. lol
I know of I think another HDML it's been house boat in Southampton as long as I can remember. You can see it from Google earth on the River Itchen by the Bridge St Denys Road, lookinging on street view it can be seen. We love your Vlog.
Looking so good
Nice job you guys are doing. I'm always amazed at how you manage to overcome all the problems again and again, week after week. Why don't you get in touch with Leo over at the Samson boat Co? He would know how to template all the stuff for the new deck, that would be a great episode if he could come over for a week and help you guys :-)
You could load those images in a cad program and scale it to size (according to some known measurement) and get the actual radius like that.
String a string tightly from port to starboard and measure the distance from the bottom of the beam to the string on distance of every 20 CM. This will allow you to create your form to bend and epoxy your beams to set. then cut to your length needed.
Great Job ... Can't imagine ever undertaking such a restoration 😳 I have enough trouble just keeping the roof over my head from leaking 😹
If you can get a string stretched along side of the beam you want to use as the model, from top of the beam shelf on each end. Which is also the bottom of the beam itself. Determine the center of the beam and then measure the upward deflection at the center. (should be the high point). Then work your way back towards the outside at maybe every 20 or 30cm or so measuring the distance between string and beam bottom.record all those distances while working to the very outside end at the beam shelf. This should then be easy enough to take those measurements and create a template in the shop on a long straight board. One question though, is the beam an equal measurement from bottom to top all the way the full length, beam bottom arc matching with beam top arc? This would be especially good if the beam you do this on is the widest one on the boat. Then as you make each individual beam, work from the center of each beam measuring the distance from center to each end to determine the total length, This way you keep the high point always in the center. I'm sorry if this is hard to comprehend, my strong point is carpentry not my writing skills....
If this helps at all , fantastic. If not just ignore me like my wife does when I'm making no sense. LOL I'm sure you'll handle this all just as well as you've done all the previous work.
Good liuck.
Use a taught string line from edge to edge and measure the centre to calculate the radius
Look forward to your weekly updates! Serinda is coming along quite nicely! Great job guys!
If you can say beam shelf.... you can shurley say bulkhead, deckhead, etc
Neggie Nelly lol Think she used to run Sheldrakes 🤣
Love your positivity ❤
You did not buy a rotten boat. You bougth an importent piece of history. All your great work to preserve this good looking boat, have my deepest respect.
To take the curvieture of the original bulkhead seems to me a good idea. It is quite easy to multiply over the total beam. The narrower the boat/ship gets towards the bow the less height difference ther will be between the gight at the beamshelf and the hight at center deck.
Apparently the name for transferring boat shapes/dimensions from the plans to the boat is called lofting the lines so in your case it would be lofting deck beams it may be worth searching on the web with these terms.
Love watching the two of you work (the voiceover jab at Simon was hilarious). Have you asked your friend in New Zealand what they did for the wide deck beams?
Paint your boat time!!!
Go visit the Medusa, and make templates off of HER deck beams - all of them. Thanks for the video. Jon
Wouldn't work, they are all different, it's amazing how different our build is to Medusa's, there aren't 2 identical HDMLs
Great work !
Thanks a lot!
The background scenery and the amount of green is spectacular.
Paint your boat time~!
Every boat deserves new life. All it needs is a will and money to do it. If you do it as a couple, you need a bucket full of love. From Australia, love.
25:45 - That's the right way to do it, haha.
It’s amazing how nothing daunts you two. It’s going to look fantastic when it’s finished.
I would leave those frames across the windows - added strength. Chop the jigsaw blade with an angle grinder so it wont hit the frame.
On the main cross beam (at the end of the video). Prepare the template by using cardboard (fridge, furniture, etc,). I is easier and recycled material.
You guys made excellent progress this week on the stbd side planking and beam shelf for deck beams I don't have a clue. Looking forward to what ever progress is made.
How to get your deck curve: Run a string line from side to side and measure the distance between sides. Measure the gap in the centre and at say every 500mm to the edges. Transfer that info to a piece of ply and nail in a tack at every measurement. Bend a piece of wood against the tacks around the curve, mark with pencil, cut out and bingo you have a template of the deck curve. Easy peezy. Cheers
Rule of thumb by American standards for drainage is one inch every 4 feet. So, from the center of your deck beams to the sides of the ship you should have that level of decline for drainage. It also looks by the plans that is also the case from the bow towards midship at a minimum. A wave comes crashing over you want to get the water off asap!
Although Sarinda might not be the best HDML, she'll definitely be in the top 5..😜
You are right, Its fun doing a project and challenging yourself. The difficult part is finding the money to do the job especially when you are retired like myself but we carry on the best we can and something always turns up. The power of positive thinking and a wife who is very frugal and cheap to run who's only requirement is to keep the house maintenance and her car up to scratch. I love my life, it's a hoot. Go for it guys.
When I get ahold of Medusa people and have them check and see if the all the same from the front to the rear would the pitch and the upper pitch or should say the lower pitch they redone Medusa so they ought to know if it's all the same alright this is Bob from Vero Beach Florida God bless a safe have a great week
"Its paint your boat time" I am so proud of your progress and carpenter skills.... keep up the G R E A T work 😘
Your boat is not rotten, it’s just like an old car that just needs 12 inches here and there. Love your work and enthusiasm. Have a cuppa!
Laser line and measure from line to bottom of beam every 10cm or so to get a quick rad
Obviously the way to get the measurments is to go visit HDML Kuparu in NZ and make a holiday of it :)
Deck Beams. the camber should be the same for every beam so making a template and former from the widest point as you suggested is correct. Each beam should then be cut to the required width from the same centre line as they get shorter towards the bow as the camber is not neccesarily a true arc.. Hope that makes sense.