Trevor Paglen: Mind Hacking, AI and Psyops Capitalism | Doomscroll

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  • @jakepeterson6901
    @jakepeterson6901 3 місяці тому +156

    This is the fastest I’ve become a dedicated listener to a podcast before. Really good stuff

    • @reptariguess
      @reptariguess 3 місяці тому +5

      same, this is awesome

    • @Lollero200q
      @Lollero200q 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes

    • @Grainz_music
      @Grainz_music 3 місяці тому

      Bro same

    • @evanhudson881
      @evanhudson881 2 місяці тому +1

      this channel must have dropped some serious $$$ on targeted ads or algorithm boosting (or has some powerful friends/investors) because I had never seen it before last week and now it is permanently in my "recommended" and "watch next" list.

    • @stephenharper5761
      @stephenharper5761 2 місяці тому

      Same.

  • @loninappleton
    @loninappleton 3 місяці тому +47

    I began listening to Josh's talks with the Catherine Liu episdode. Without that I likely wouldn't be be here. Now I'm subscribed. Also a big thank you for not being on Zoom. The format and setting is conducive to good and meaningful conversation.

  • @RobbedTheBank
    @RobbedTheBank 3 місяці тому +39

    shout out to the camera operator who fixed joshua being blown out part way through. weve all been there

    • @ChasBlobster
      @ChasBlobster Місяць тому

      I'm personally kind of mad at the person that manages that facility and left one window without tint

  • @shiro.t.poison
    @shiro.t.poison 3 місяці тому +16

    A lot of this conversation seems to be very closely related to the concept of psychopolitics as described by Byung-Chul Han, and now I really want you to have him on

  • @annieothername
    @annieothername 3 місяці тому +11

    super appreciate Trevor highlights the necessity of reimagination, especially for how we even define humanity and therefore human rights and therefore civil liberties. This is so often discounted and lost whenever I hear people say labor is the only anchor for revolutionary potential. Culture plays a MAJOR and essential factor. Thank you for yet another wonderful interview!

  • @joesligo1516
    @joesligo1516 3 місяці тому +21

    I am so stoked whenever I see the most based podcast in the entire universe post a new EP. So stoked

  • @biznaz6969
    @biznaz6969 3 місяці тому +13

    In terms of enlisted and officer insurbordination inside the military, an interesting case study would be JSOC and specifically naval special warfare and whatever the fork Delta calls themselves these days. Seth Harp has a forthcoming book about the drug trafficking connection between fort bragg and delta, and matthew cole’s Code Over Country details some crazy insurbordination inside of Seal Team 6’s red and gold squadrons. pertinent to this conversation is the overlap of psyops and jsoc. Trust in the military as an institution remains high but its very clear there is a growing proportion of us military personnel that would not refuse illegal orders but would be acting illegally without being ordered too. 28:36

    • @biznaz6969
      @biznaz6969 3 місяці тому +2

      *is acting illegally without being ordered too. Cuz theyre already doing it obviously

  • @newplace2frown
    @newplace2frown 3 місяці тому +7

    Whoa! What a guest! Thank you :) studying documentary photography and love Trevor's writing

  • @shakie6074
    @shakie6074 3 місяці тому +35

    Trevor is the man. Love his work, use it all the time in the course I teach over parapolitics and aesthetics.
    MKUltra and UFO psyops are small potatoes compared to Lt Col Michael Aquino the godfather of post-Vietnam psyops. Operation Phoenix, “Programmed to Kill”, remote viewing, Aberration in the Heartland of the Real, Dr. Jolly West… the rabbit hole goes deep.

    • @DjViceroy
      @DjViceroy 3 місяці тому +2

      If you haven't checked out Eye Of The Chickenhawk, I recommend you do.

    • @jesseliu3450
      @jesseliu3450 3 місяці тому +1

      Found the PTC/SJ listener

    • @JamiePortside
      @JamiePortside 3 місяці тому

      Where do you teach this?

    • @DjViceroy
      @DjViceroy 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jesseliu3450 stay vigilant

    • @10KBC
      @10KBC 3 місяці тому

      DNR Michael Aquino

  • @stevenkerber8724
    @stevenkerber8724 Місяць тому +1

    This is such a fascinating conversation. Great work. ❤

  • @wall8080
    @wall8080 3 місяці тому +40

    Watching this instead of Walz vs Vance

  • @DjViceroy
    @DjViceroy 3 місяці тому +2

    Damn, how is this the first time I've come across Trevor. His work is right up my alley.

  • @Mhmusiccc
    @Mhmusiccc 3 місяці тому +5

    Another great interview! Loved it

  • @titusdawson
    @titusdawson 3 місяці тому +2

    I rewatched 5 times, I think Trevor is in awe of some of the things Joshua posits. Fascinating discussion. “There’s something weirder going on…” 🤔 wonder if we’ll ever find out

  • @Grainz_music
    @Grainz_music 3 місяці тому +4

    Best new podcast of ‘24? Sí, señor

  • @owenbrucemckenzie
    @owenbrucemckenzie 3 місяці тому +6

    The alien flying by above his head at just before the 30 min mark is a nice touch.

    • @azertyQ
      @azertyQ 2 місяці тому

      Bro doesn't know how to identify an automobile.

  • @rydavidbradley1979
    @rydavidbradley1979 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice work Josh… keep mixing in artists it really opens the doors for navigating this moment

  • @ulovemyusername
    @ulovemyusername 3 місяці тому +1

    soooo excited about this interview. thanks josh

  • @WereInHell
    @WereInHell 3 місяці тому +3

    Let's gooooooooooo!

  • @johnfullmer1474
    @johnfullmer1474 3 місяці тому +2

    Two of my fav artists chatting ❤

  • @Lifestylehack
    @Lifestylehack Місяць тому

    Fascinating discussion. A companion or future chat might include ideas around how we can bolster democracy, how individuals could find agency in increasingly irrational societies, or indeed whether any of that matters.

  • @enExima
    @enExima 2 місяці тому

    Interresting topic and guest and a very insightful podcast host .. well done*ty

  • @galopeian
    @galopeian 3 місяці тому +1

    One of coolest artists out there. Loved his book "blank spots on the map"

  • @milhuisen
    @milhuisen 3 місяці тому +3

    This podcast rules.

  • @chalsiewalsienohow
    @chalsiewalsienohow 2 місяці тому +1

    trevor is a great and learned speaker, good choice

  • @DocAdamPhD
    @DocAdamPhD 3 місяці тому +1

    Insanely good episode

  • @emmarivera7188
    @emmarivera7188 3 місяці тому +5

    Hito Steryl next!

  • @nicholasfalasco8539
    @nicholasfalasco8539 3 місяці тому +2

    Great interview

  • @hardlum
    @hardlum 3 місяці тому +4

    Algo working overtime

  • @MayorMcC666
    @MayorMcC666 3 місяці тому +18

    wanting to go to heaven is my favorite psyop

    • @John-mf6ky
      @John-mf6ky 19 днів тому

      The CIA literally considered faking the second coming of Christ in Cuba to take out the communist government in Cuba. There are some really whacking things the CIA considered back in the day.

  • @jjclem8759
    @jjclem8759 3 місяці тому +3

    FUCK yea, really enjoying this pod, and Trevor's your best get yet

  • @MagentaApex
    @MagentaApex 3 місяці тому +3

    40:51 I had to google this, he’s talking about the Philip K Dick science fiction novel “Ubik”

  • @Bildungsromanx
    @Bildungsromanx 3 місяці тому +2

    6:35 Lol Trevor talking about magicians mastering mind control and Joshua subconsciously mirroring him. Trevor are u a magician

  • @reverendsteveii
    @reverendsteveii 2 місяці тому +1

    immediate subscribe

  • @asadxo
    @asadxo 3 місяці тому +1

    this was a great ep

  • @seanbharper
    @seanbharper 3 місяці тому +5

    omg u got trevor i'm not going to get anything done

  • @bjordsfjord
    @bjordsfjord 3 місяці тому +3

    OH SH~ we got Paglin on the mic!

  • @wickedcurve1975
    @wickedcurve1975 3 місяці тому +7

    Are those boots with no socks? Also, I love this show, I've been watching it regularly

    • @funkymunky
      @funkymunky 3 місяці тому +1

      @@wickedcurve1975 Boots with the fur.

  • @glennyoungkindid9116
    @glennyoungkindid9116 3 місяці тому +6

    Hell yeah

  • @aerobique
    @aerobique 3 місяці тому +2

    👍 very interesting program/discussion good🎉

  • @neuroprodukt
    @neuroprodukt 3 місяці тому +1

    Another day another banger

  • @airmark02
    @airmark02 3 місяці тому +6

    Lets not kid ourseleves, ~ a version MK Ultra continues to this day

    • @funkymunky
      @funkymunky 3 місяці тому

      @@airmark02 I've heard good things about MK LOLTRA.

  • @st3venseagal248
    @st3venseagal248 3 місяці тому +2

    If you find the story of Richard Doty and his work I would definitely recommend the book Mirage Men by Mark Pilkington who spent some time with the man himself and did a nice deep dive into the misinformation campaign waged against the UFO community.
    *edit* Lol I guess I should've finished the video before leaving this comment.

    • @talos_x9295
      @talos_x9295 3 місяці тому

      Are you real or an AI bot

  • @bassfishbone
    @bassfishbone 3 місяці тому +2

    I have an Adobe Photoshop ad underneath my video while Joshua is saying he pirated it 😂

  • @jackiehill2427
    @jackiehill2427 16 днів тому

    Reality is changing constantly and alters reality every time somebody is born and somebody dies. These are frequencies coming into reality and going out of reality.

  • @2fishes-q5h
    @2fishes-q5h 3 місяці тому +7

    Getting older every minute, last cycle. If you kids are talking like this👍 , I'm game for another decade of revolutions (pertaining to the Earth around the Sun) }{
    Long live the Evolution

  • @frostydei5012
    @frostydei5012 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm having a fabulous night just imagining scenarios for the CIA magician. 🥳🤣

  • @jackiehill2427
    @jackiehill2427 16 днів тому

    What needs to happen is that software should be by license and they each should be checked before recieving a licence for hidden subliminal measaging and for hidden files in the pixels.

  • @JordanSauriol
    @JordanSauriol 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the breakdown! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

  • @climatecypher
    @climatecypher 3 місяці тому +1

    Which movie does he keep talking about?

  • @deandavictoreduardo
    @deandavictoreduardo 20 днів тому

    Loved the conversation, not so much the oversimplification of what the left has to do or not. Interesting conjectures from Joshua but he has Trevor Paglen to ask questions not to philosophy and lecture people.

  • @lockswap
    @lockswap 3 місяці тому +1

    This is rly good

  • @MCPetruk
    @MCPetruk 3 місяці тому

    Can someone recall the name of the person he associates with "Technical Magic" in the bay area?

  • @maxim6918
    @maxim6918 3 місяці тому +2

    Looks like a nice an soft shirt Joshua

  • @Camila.k.1
    @Camila.k.1 3 місяці тому +1

    I need part 2

  • @MZ-9993
    @MZ-9993 3 місяці тому +2

    Wow, looked up Trevors work some time ago, what a fantastic guest

  • @pytguyid
    @pytguyid 3 місяці тому +3

    The example of the Amazon GF pushing Amazon Prime purchases is reminiscent of The Truman Show. Not exactly the same but perhaps a bit more insidious.

  • @ChasBlobster
    @ChasBlobster Місяць тому +1

    I think the bleakest thing I've heard recently was around 40 minutes where these guys follow the thread of what this insurance-driven scheme leads and then as they've gotten to just living in their bug-eating pod habitats, there's the laughter that is just incredibly disconcerting because it's obvious in their faces how bleak this thing they've just built in their minds is.

  • @MegaSkye
    @MegaSkye 3 місяці тому

    see: John Dee 007 and his ideas about empire and his psyop around the storm that got in the way of the Spanish fleet. Kantbot and Ed Burg cover a lot of Dee's motions in regards to the modern intelligence services.

  • @qcumberfiesta7122
    @qcumberfiesta7122 3 місяці тому

    what's his intro song ???

  • @alienpix
    @alienpix Місяць тому

    20:10 This is like The Truman Show, right?

  • @ajummamama9355
    @ajummamama9355 3 місяці тому +2

    💖💖💖💖

  • @emmarivera7188
    @emmarivera7188 3 місяці тому +1

    Tyler swift is a psyop for sure

  • @madukamagica
    @madukamagica 3 місяці тому +2

    Since we had two canadians can we get two bald guys? I nominate brian eno!

  • @_in_the_third_grade2101
    @_in_the_third_grade2101 3 місяці тому +1

    Is accelerationism a psyop?

  • @stevenkellysillick4042
    @stevenkellysillick4042 3 місяці тому

    Oh sorry, I forgot that "the mind" is a subjective reality

  • @evanhudson881
    @evanhudson881 2 місяці тому

    Lol @ both these guys going "it may be impossible to know" whether Richard Doty's systematic destruction of the sanity and credibility of multiple civilian researcher/journalists was sanctioned by their military higher-ups, or if he was somehow acting as a lone wolf while embedded in the military intelligence hierarchy. (timestamp 30:30/1:03:31)

  • @grief_hammer
    @grief_hammer 3 місяці тому +1

    Y'know, when is something NOT a psyop?

  • @bostoys
    @bostoys 3 місяці тому +34

    He’s no JJ McCullough, but he’ll do.

    • @testtesttesttesttest884
      @testtesttesttesttest884 3 місяці тому +6

      @@bostoys he’s not PMC but he’ll do

    • @brandonb9764
      @brandonb9764 3 місяці тому +1

      He’s not Canadian but he’ll do

    • @Cha_Sechan-bq5tq
      @Cha_Sechan-bq5tq 3 місяці тому +2

      JJ McCullough was no Bo Burnham and Douglass Rushkoff, but he'll do

    • @mcfiredrill
      @mcfiredrill 3 місяці тому +6

      He's not Catherine Liu but he'll do

    • @WhizPill
      @WhizPill 3 місяці тому +2

      Who❓

  • @nma367
    @nma367 3 місяці тому

    I’d love to learn more about the Centre for Strategic Magick that he mentioned, but so far it seems ungooglable

    • @tenchis22
      @tenchis22 3 місяці тому

      center for tactical magic

  • @joelmathis1346
    @joelmathis1346 3 місяці тому +1

    I hope Josh is getting a good pay day from these adds

  • @johnnycruttenden9805
    @johnnycruttenden9805 3 місяці тому +1

    Fuck yes

  • @Lollero200q
    @Lollero200q 3 місяці тому

    Danny Jones podcast but with flava 😂

  • @xstij
    @xstij 3 місяці тому +1

    big tings becoming

  • @walterlippmann4361
    @walterlippmann4361 2 місяці тому +1

    Reality started to fracture on 9/11

  • @PatrickEverman-e4l
    @PatrickEverman-e4l 3 місяці тому

    pilot g5 gang

  • @joypowerful
    @joypowerful 3 місяці тому +31

    I'm gay

  • @harzann
    @harzann 2 місяці тому

    Nicholas Mullen

  • @yehoshua77
    @yehoshua77 Місяць тому

    The huge Muslim population of...the Phillipines? The Phillipines is like 80% Roman Catholic dude.

  • @joeheuft
    @joeheuft Місяць тому +2

    Worst episode to listen to after a major bong rip

  • @funkymunky
    @funkymunky 3 місяці тому +9

    I'm a Jew.

    • @DS-ej7zt
      @DS-ej7zt 3 місяці тому +3

      Prove it

    • @funkymunky
      @funkymunky 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DS-ej7zt 💎 (It's cut.)

    • @DS-ej7zt
      @DS-ej7zt 3 місяці тому +2

      @@funkymunky oi vey

    • @funkymunky
      @funkymunky 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DS-ej7zt Not on Shomer Shabos.

    • @foodchewer
      @foodchewer 2 місяці тому +1

      Me too, brother.

  • @RR-iv5df
    @RR-iv5df Місяць тому

    citarella acts in an unsettlingly effeminate way.. whats up with that

    • @RR-iv5df
      @RR-iv5df Місяць тому

      it doesnt come off as something normal as being gay. it seems like some sort of theater kid illness

    • @twobabka
      @twobabka 27 днів тому +1

      he does come off like a theater kid but it is unsettling only to you

  • @manfrombkk
    @manfrombkk Місяць тому +1

    I’d rather listen to 2 AI bots talking to one another against a non blown out background, than these two guys babbling on. Pretty soon this will be an option for those of us who choose not to continue with the current batch hi-subed podcasters.