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After all these troubles,it is was the way that you regulate the flow of propene? Interesting video. Thanks!

Thanks mine is a shower with a seat and underneath the 40CCR from Cedar Creek I cannot see what I am doing and there was a leak from underneath the P trap but its not a P trap it goes straight down and its a bit rough and ready under there and the mount is leaking. AS the seat is the underneath part you cannot see what on earth you are doing and as a woman i put Xproxy on and yes it held the leak it is very minor you cannot simply get any tools under there and you definitely cannot see what you are doing so, thinking of swooping out the shower all together and getting something here in New Zealand that does not have a seat installed with a shower thats just a flat floor - hoping that would work

Dear Pleasant Valley Outdoors: Thank you so much for the great video. I have struggled and struggled trying to get my brand new DuraMax generator Hybrid 1200 series to crank. We just had a power outage due to the recent hurricane (Helene), we live near Asheville NC and woudn't you know it, my power goes out and the generator won't crank. I finally gave up. But after everything went back to normal and we got internet I started searching and found your video. I fixed the problem in 5 minutes. I owe you one my friend, thank you so much and God bless. David

Good video, thanks for that.

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I have a dual fuel generator and it wouldn't run faster than idle w/propane. But i close the tank valve, and it would idle up, then die. I'm running gas now and will try the method you mention when I refuel, we just lost power from Helene.

I pulled my slide out totally off today to remove the flooring underneath. Now, I'll staple a permanent strip of protective carpet on the front of the slide edge before I re-install. Thanks for saving me some scratches!

Dude - Not a regulator or generator problem. It’s the excess flow restrictor in the fitting that connects directly to your tank. I think all LP connectors have them. It is a spring loaded ball that is pushed against it’s seat when the flow exceeds specs. Turning off the LP lets it reset. I didn’t read all the comments, so apologies if it was already answered.

Nice informative video

That is a sweet little crawler.

F'ing awesome hearing this!! I was about to throw my three champion generators into the trash. I am done with champion because of their poor parts support and the no-start issue. When it is storming and cold, having a propane generator that will not start is an epic fail. Propane is not a perfect fuel but gasoline is messy and does not store well. Thanks for putting this out on utube.

Billy Goat!

This could have been a one minute video. It took seven minutes to get to the point. Also, this is common knowledge with propane.

They don’t want to add it to the manual because their replacement regulator sales would drop

appreciate you putting these videos together. I have the exact tractor as you and was eyeing the 7' Express Steel with pull back. I am curious how you feel about the 24 inch box vs. the 30 they offer. I have a rear mounted blower for weight (~500 lbs) and when the box will be underpowered. Appreciate your practical real world thoughts. If you had it to do over again... what would the dimensions look like? Could be spot on for what you have.

You never need to choke a propane generator. It will always start without it.

I actually had the exact same problem with my propane grill as well. It was driving me nuts for such a simple fix that nobody knows about.

Thank you,, thank you. Life saver.

Nice job man 👍👍

❤ I am working on a 1953 td6 I have redone the gas side and painted it Now I’m on the diesel side should I pull the settling bowl? It’s so dirty with old caked on grease oil diesel I can hardly see it should I take it off? And is it hard to get off?

Great video. I wish everyone could explain issues as well as you. Champion actually has good support but as anything in today's world, it's often hit or miss. The first question I ask any tech support person is "Have you ever heard of this issue?" If they say no, I ask if they could check to find another rep who has. It saves having to call back. I learned about opening a propane tank slowly when I purchased a new BBQ grill. Again, great video. Very well thought out and how you explained the entire story. I purchased a Champion Duel Fuel 5500 from Cabela's near Reno, NV. My only regret was to only use propane. Other than that, I'm pleased with my purchase. Thanks again! What does Jean Luc Picard say...? Oh yeah - Well done.

Propane tank valve was my issue, same thing happened to me. Open fast and the valve will click, blocking fuel flow. Open slow and works fine. Safety mechanism in the tank valve caused my problem and hasn’t happened since. Thanks for posting your information as it could very easily be a different issue all together on yours.

Thanks, problem solved

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It is the same for any propane regulator whether it is on a generator or a BBQ or a camper. The safety valve thinks there is a broken hose and restricts flow to a trickle. Ten minutes to say open the valve slowly.

I had the same problem with my bbq. It wouldn’t lite or heat properly. I had turned on the propane too quickly & put somethinginto a safety mode so I had to reset the regulaor. Now on all my propane bottles I turn the valve very slowly in the beginning for about 1/2 a turn then open all the way.

I've always wondered why he's wearing a mini-dress? And should you really be filming up his dress like that? :)

Took 4 years to get this video. Had any jackwagons just drive right thru it? There's always one. Good job anyway. 👍

I had the same issue with a propane powered meat smoker, a propane gas grill, and a propane weed burner. If you open that propane tank valve too fast, a surge of pressure hits that regulator and a safety device within it slams down the gas flow sensing that there is a dangerous gas leak. Open the valve slowly and the regulator doesn't sense a massive leak and the regulator works properly. If fully understood, we should appreciate that safety device within the propane gas regulators. Way too many houses have burned because of massive propane gas leaks in gas grills without these safety devices within the regulators.

It's awesome when you can talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of someone who is reading from a flowchart who is obviously in another country with an accent you can barely understand.

I just went through this myself. We had a storm come through and killed the power. I thought , ahhh I get to use my generator. I had been going out running it about 15 minutes or so every couple of week. Well lo and behold the power goes out I got out plug in the propane turn the dial to choke and hit the start button. She would act like it wanted to start, but wouldn't do anything. I was so mad because like you I never wanted to put gas in it. But after multiple attempts to start it on propane it just wouldn't run. Power company said it would be around 10 to 12 hours before they would restore power. It is now 95 degrees and very humid so I had to make a decision. Aggravating as it was I got my gas can and put gas in it. Turned the dial to choke for the gas. She fired right up and ran perfectly. Next day I shut it down and let it cool and checked the arrestor and it was clean. Plugged the propane back in and once again she just wouldn't start. I went online and did some research and I found your video and another person video. He was recommending changing out the regulator. But said when he spoke to tech support they told him to make sure he turned his propane gas on very slowly. Like you I never thought about it and just cranked it on. Well sure enough I go out and slowly ease it open until it's fully open. Hit the start button. She fired right up and ran like a champ. No pun intended. Sound to me like they have some crappy regulators, but that is just me. But I just wanted to tell you I appreciate you taking the time to post this. Thank you because this absolutely helped me.

I have had the same thing happen multiple times on my grills. It is an EPA thing, probably the same team that improved the safety of gas cans. 😮

Not just champion, i belive it is a goverment regulation (as if there is not enough rules and regs). my bbq grill does that. Also, you do not have to choke it when on propane.

The issue is in the tank not the regulator. This is not specific to Champion generators, it is applicable to all propane tanks equipped with OPD.

20k/30k/40k camper and a $600? Generator. That's your problem. Buy a better brand.

thanks for the video. I have had the same generator with no issues, run on propane of course, synthetic oil change every 75 hours. After 1925 (yes, one thousand nine hundred and twenty five) hours of use (in about 8 months) it developed some knocking sound from the invertor (I guess), like something is loose. The engine itself runs strong. Champion tech support was useless, their industry leading 3 years warranty does not apply. I've just ordered a new generator, the same model, as propane is half the price of gas here. Hope it helps.

Seems like a chemical process would be far easier

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Thanks

Very good video! My opinion: Simply shut rhe Diesel throttle off once the engine is cooled down. The gas cycle shut down is an ancient IH idea from the crank start era. IH gave up on that. Pretty darn well explained! These engines are still such a mystery to many people. Nursed a six cylinder version (UD-16) for a few decades and now am lucky to have a newer version (UD-525) within that series. Six thumbs up! Ahhh, IH gas-start Diesels. Thank you!

I had the same thing happen using a Blackstone grill. Opened the propane valve too quickly and the burners only burned very low. Exact same problem, same fix.

The regulator on you propane tank can also cause this problem if you open the valve to fast no matter if you have a barbeque pit hooked up to it the flow rate will be greatly restricted.

I have the 10,000 w Duramax dual fuel ,I never use gas I only run propane had it 7 years but only ran it twice ,first time ran 8 straight hours second time only 2hrs 10 hrs total but will start and run twice a year just to keep the battery charged oh and I run the whole house except the central Air ,never had any starting issue .😊

I have watched a number of videos about dual fuel and propane generators. Several of them have referenced the slow opening of the tank valve and even a release of the connector from the tank to the generator to dissipate air before starting. Seems like this is a pretty common issue and I am glad to know about it. Thanks for your video.

I did not think the choke did anything if your using propane. I thought it skipped the carb ?

Basic good practice of any pressurized system is to open valves slowly and increase pressure gently. Be kind to your equipment and your equipment will be kind to you. This is one of the first things I was taught as a chemical operator.

I've always used the car engine to refill the needy batteries, but fuel prices were giving me reason to consider a dual fuel generator. This handy tip would be the linchpin in my decision making. Real world evaluations are of inestimable value for novices.

Love the engineering and manufacturing skills.

I think that is a definite improvement. With this type of carburetor the fuel to air ratio is what it is. The mix is rich as it is not pulling the CFM while the engine is trying to gain rpm at start up. these carbs are crazy simple. I can imagine the engineer who designed them his motto was "let's not over think this" Great video Thank you.

The gauges use a business card works every time for me or cigarette pack for the gap

I bet it would start easier if it was at my house.