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What’s your favorite strategy rpg? I swear reading your comment is like looking into an alternate reality where I have every opposite perspective on the game, It’s fascinating.

Can you explain? :)

I’m so excited to play FFT because so many like yourself hold it in high regard. I’m really hoping to be blown away.

I understand your love for the game and it really is something to marvel. The amount of content Tactics Ogre provides is amazing especially given the time it came out. I’m personally not the biggest fan of its art direction but I’m sure the original snes game looks amazing (like imagine playing the game on a Trinitron). I had a snes and psp growing up but sadly missed out on Tactics Ogre both times. I’m glad I got to experience now at least. As for Triangle strategy I think it’s worth giving a second chance. If the dialogue bogs you down I’d recommend skipping all of the green side content to save time. I’d also forgo farming unless necessary, skipping it gives you the best experience gameplay and story wise (in my opinion).

I found Tactics Ogre to mostly just be proof of concept for FFT personally. It's alright, but Final Fantasy Tactics does nearly everything Tactics Ogre did, better. The only thing TO beats it at, is the unique character's. The routes are nice but I don't see them as a pro or con, just a design choice. Tactics Ogre walked so FFT could run.

Yeah man like imagine if there was a whole continent of flying units that are countered by the arrow cover skill that can be used in conjunction with provoke to force row and column attacks to go your way. Then and only then Lex might be actually slightly useful, I guess. The thing that’s crazy to me is whenever I put a team up against an enemy fighter none of my units can really hurt them unless it’s a breaker or a mage. I wonder if others just haven’t experienced that. Every time I see someone say fighter is bad I think of all the times I struggled to cut through them because I didn’t send an effective unit.

Im just slightly younger than whatever your guess would be. :)

I’m planning on playing final fantasy tactics for the first time really soon. I unfortunately missed out on it when I was younger but am excited to experience for myself why it’s so beloved. Also Im glad you’ll be moving Triangle Strategy up you list, it really is a good game. Thanks man!

I'm 70 hours in triangle strategy on hard mode. Ogre tactics is my next game. So far I love triangle strategy but it is too story heavy for me... So much dialogue scenes in-between battles. Some might like this but I just want to jump in the action.

Agreed!

Sounds like a solid squad!

I like them both a lot in Albion. All of the Angels have a hard time with the arrow cover.

Thank you!

Hell yea something about triangle strategy just clicks. What route did you play first?

@@corvieindobenedict. it seemed the most practical. the other two you can easily argue as bad endings, but this one wasn't -as- bad.

@@terence7009 That was my exact same thought process for choosing Benedict on my first playthrough. Leaving the people of Wolffort behind to fend for themselves as lord is kind of screwed. The other ending well, slavery bad.

@@corvieindo oh yeah roland's route is absolutely chalked up as the straight up bad ending. he gets hard chastised for it.

Disgaes is one of the few srpgs with tons of customization I’ve actually enjoyed. Otherwise I find it a bit tiresome. How do you feel about resource management in strategy games?

I wholeheartedly agree, after experiencing Tactics Ogre without it Im sure Triangle Strategy wouldn’t exist. That being said I feel like that’s all the more reason as to why they should be compared. Especially when from my point of view people are putting Tactics Ogre on this unreachable pedestal. Like you said they are both good games it just sucks that a lot of people shit on a Triangle Strategy for not being Tactics Ogre.

I forgot to mention it but I did have it happen to me once in my play through. I dislike that some skills randomly knock back with no explanation as to why (unless it’s a crit). Is it true that the flying units get returned to your party after battle if they’re knocked off?

​@@corvieindo If I remember correctly, apart from crits and guaranteed crits from certain skills and large monster attacks, it usually says about knockback effect in the description. I haven't played the Reborn enough to say, how they changed the systems from PS or PSP versions, but in short in PSP version you had passive buffs for skills like more STR, more RES and so on. One of those was knockback % for basic attacks. When they made reborn, they removed the passive stat skills and as far as I can tell, knockback chance on basic attack is now based on LUK difference between 2 units. Regarding flying units, they don't take fall damage and can't die from falling into pits - they just fly back up the same turn. Lastly, I would recommend trying the PSP version, thats the one I played shit ton when I was a kid, to me it is superior in core aspects of the gameplay, altough it is vastly different mechanically. It focuses on RPG elements a lot more, than reborn, and allows for insanely funny builds and op characters when you have a good grasp on the mechanics. The biggest downside to it are QoL improvements from Reborn that are not present like less tedious crafting and leveling up characters instead of classes, but I find it insanely fun. There is also a great mod for it called One Vision, which rebalances all classes and game elements, which makes the game more consistent and a lot more builds and strategies viable throughout the game, I highly recommend giving it a try.

Damn, thank you for taking the time to explain the knock back formula. I’m sad I never came across the game when I was younger. Emulating the game for another play through does sound fun so I might do that if I’m not feeling lazy.

Currently preparing my 30 paged manifesto in response.

I had this problem early on but eventually got used to it. I think it was the color of the tiles for me. Either they blended in with the stage or I couldn’t see the available angle.

I really like the need for speed to Gran Turismo comparison. They’re both great games and it’s easy to see why someone would prefer one over the other. Gran Turismo has depth and high quality customization that comes at the cost of being mired with menus. Need for speed(depending on which we’re talking about) is much less complex but it’s simplicity’s and strong core gameplay always make for a fun time. A very good comparison, thank you.

I recommend doing a regular hard deathless run if you haven’t. It’s one of my favorite ways to experience the game.

Damn.. deathless run is wild. I'm on my first play through and chose hard mode and some levels are easy and then there were some that kicked my butt. I'm currently on chapter 20ish about level 33 and the current battle is kicking my butt.

I appreciate your appreciation!

I’d say give it another try, it’s definitely worth finishing. Maybe try playing while referring to a guide? I don’t feel like it takes away too much. Have you tried Triangle Strategy?

Redemption Reapers, I highly recommend it. There’s a review on my channel with a section about the gameplay if you’re interested.

There were times I felt like I was just going through the motions in TO. It just didn’t immerse me like TS but it’s still a great game.

Unfortunately I haven't experienced the other versions for myself so even though I could have looked up the differences it just wouldn't feel genuine to cover it without truly knowing how it feels. From what I've heard there are quite a bit of differences between each version. In hindsight it probably would have been worth it to at least mention relevant differences. Also I appreciate the recommendations Ill check them out.

I never noticed the flag thing in my time with the game. I'm sure it's probably explained at some point and I must have missed it. That definitely changes things quite a bit so thank you for pointing that out. I did not know the World map getting criticism is common because I'm coming from the point of view of not knowing anything about the game. Just compared to other strategy games I've played with world maps it stuck out as something that could have been less complicated. Given I missed the flag indicator I'm pretty much to blame here. As for TS I think its worth the challenge to play without grinding the extra battles if you're into that kind of thing. Even if you lose the story battle you still get to keep your experience points and I could be wrong but I think you keep your items as well. My first playthrough I tried farming and did not care for it at all. I feel like the game gives you enough hidden items in the exploration portions to keep your characters caught up. Also I agree I wish there was just a smidge more fantasy sprinkled in, maybe some beast enemies or something (a roaming danger you know). Do you know what ending you're going for or are you just seeing where things takes you?

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I just use whatever they come with. I feel like you could argue a use for any stat combo except for accuracy.

As far as I experienced the stat distribution went the way I needed it to. Also I thought it were fixed because Urs did not gain a single point in faith the entire playthrough. One of the enemies does magic damage and your magic defense is based on your faith. They’re super dangerous but he does have an axe that gives him 5+ to faith when equipped. I hope you can find some time for this game in the future, even if it’s way later I’d like to hear what you think about the gameplay after giving it a go.

Oh well, looks like I'll have to find out for myself. It's probably fixed enough that none of your characters can end up completely useless.They all have to pull their weight, except maybe Sarah. Just kidding, I'm sure I can find a use for her. And yes, I will share my thoughts about the gameplay eventually. We could also compare our characters endgame stats, to see if it can vary or not.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I disagree because the value of being able to essentially control an enemies actions with provoke is huge. There’s no need to wall an enemies actions or waste passive points covering if enemies are focusing their attacks on a single unit. It’s like giving the player a simpler option for battlefield control. I actually love Virginia hands down she is one of my favorite units in the game so I feel your love for her. But can she make an entire row of enemies focus all of their attacks on her? Frankly from my experience if she could she would die. It’s kind of unrealistic to expect a character with like 5 abilities to perform as good as the one with 10 but everyone has their place. With that said if you want to take battle skills into account I feel like provoke has it’s uses over smokebolt but I know smokebolt would be generally more useful. My personal problem with the shieldbearer is that I have trouble deciding if I want to them to be a support or an offensive carry because from my own experience it feels like trying to do both doesn’t work all that well (I know that tactic pages can be set but I don’t really care to use them). As a single unit by himself yes Lex sucks but it’s a team building game and he can make a great piece in the right spot. I can’t put Lex where I have Virginia and I can’t put Virginia where I have Lex the squads just wouldn’t work anymore. Anyways thanks again for sharing your thoughts I always appreciate a different perspective.

@@corvieindo the thing about that is. you have GENERLALY enough better tanks that lex is never going to see play. Virginia Barengaria (who hits everyone's attacks and inititive) Mordon Kitra Alain (who can block any attack coming functionally the same as provoke) Bernice theres just no reason to field more then like 2-4 teams in a battle and unless every one of your teams requires 2+ tanks Lex is just not worth bringing hell his provoke is actually bad on teams where you want damage to be spread out (mass heal teams or teams that heal to near full after a combat) as provoke just get's him killed really fast against anything that can break through The one upside i see to provoke is making sure there's no one behind him so he draws column attacks which is super niche.

All I’m saying is in my experience Lex has served me well. I pair him with Hilda both on the frontline, between the two of them they’re usually able to soak up anything that comes their way (along with some support from the back). I feel like he just pairs really well with other off tanks like Featherswords or Swordmasters. Someone’s who’s not going to really going to get hit but if they do they can be covered. I also like that defender boosts his physical defense by 50% and generates pp. I’m pretty sure the defense boost stacks as well. I’ve seen him get really tanky. Honestly if fighters weren’t armored I feel like they would be almost too strong because they basically have no weaknesses outside of breakers and magic units but magic units are easy to get around. Not to mention arrow cover is really good because it just negates the damage. Yes I agree I usually only have 2-4 squads deployed but Lex is in one of them and it does well. Again I’m not denying there’s better tanks, He’s just really flexible and I like that about him. Maybe give him another chance? Otherwise we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

@@corvieindo But why are you using Hilda as a tank. shes an attacker even without the dragoon spear and a row cleaver either nuking the entire field with one attack or melting through armored units with flame breath. See this is my problem with your video your making a case for using Lex but to do so your playing badly just to include him. Hilda is one of the strongest units in the game and with reins shes fast too and your making her play DEFENSE when inititive wins battles and Hilda is one of the best attackers in the game.

Well when I say off tank I mean the fact that that they have good defensive capabilities that when paired with something you consider niche like Lex makes them viable units to have on the frontline. flyers have intrinsic natural evasion against ground units and the thing is I am row nuking with Hilda I do in fact have the reins on her for the initiative she uses the lightning shaker typically(or whatever it’s called) to stun an entire row while I have Lex provoke the one that isn’t stunned and then I have primm active heal and Chloe active gift in order to do more lightning attacks and since it’s mixed damage it usually is capable of one rounding squads but if you want I can explain the rest of my tactics since you’ll probably assume I don’t have Chloe use any attacks. I was only talking about the character and how they can pair well with something else. Not about entire squads. I never mentioned my tactics for Hilda so I don’t understand how you can attack them lol. You want me to be wrong so bad that you’ll just assume I’m playing like an idiot. Would you like me to post some gameplay of the squad because I have it?

Thank you for sharing your unique experience with the games. I never messed around with the AI options in TOR so it’s interesting to hear how it all works. I really like your perspective of TOR being more like a team building game. There were too many times where I just didn’t have the correct elements making some stages such a slog to get through. I hated having to adjust a characters element with the charms and I loathed the idea of having to have multiples of the same unit type just because of elements. I mean can you really call it Tactics if you’re just scouting the battlefield and placing units that counter the enemies. Sure it’s a strategy but did it really feel satisfying? It feels like the outcome of a battle is decided before you even start. A battle against multiple dragons without a dragoon sounds like a nightmare. Same as a battle against undead with no way to exorcise them. There’s a ton of hard wall enemies with no way around them if you didn’t plan for them in team select meaning you’re just shit out of luck for those battles. Nothing made me want to put down the controller more than that. On the other hand I agree wholeheartedly with you about Triangle Strategy. It was my game of the year and probably favorite TRPG of all time. Which makes me want to know whats in your number one spot?

@@corvieindo My favorite is a very old game that, like TS, was compared against its contemporaries as being too "simple" and thus never really became popular. However, also like TS, the reason I love it is because it focuses even more on the tactics side, and even less on the team building side. Even its own sequels went in a different direction, so only the original game is really worth playing. That game is Vandal Hearts for the PS1. So in Vandal Hearts, like in TS, every one of your units is a unique character, with no "generic" units like in TO/FFT. In fact, in each fight, the units you have available is predetermined by the story. There is no effective way to "grind levels" between story battles either, and the XP system works like in TS where you will quickly catch a character up to the current level, but have a very hard time earning enough xp to go beyond that until the next fight. Equipment is simply number upgrades and very few options for getting equipment more powerful than what is in stores - which you will almost always be able to afford the best gear for all your units anyway. All this means is that for each fight, your unit's power level is basically fixed and known by the devs. In exchange for all those limitations, *every single fight in Vandal Hearts is a very unique, hand-crafted scenario*. After the couple intro fights there's basically no such thing as a "standard battle" in the game. And I don't just mean unique in terms of terrain and positions and enemy types (which is also true - you often fight completely different enemies and there's much more variety than in TS due to monsters being a thing instead of only soldiers). I mean your objectives and challenges are often very different. Ambushes, escapes, defending, rushes, special stage gimmicks, etc. Some are SO unique that I have yet to see any other TTRPG do anything similar, so I don't want to spoil them here just in case you play the game at some point. Just know that in every fight you will need to adjust your tactics and adapt to the unique scenario you'll face. The story and animations are also fantastic. Obviously it will look dated now, but I believe at the time it was the first TTRPG to combine 3D polygon environments with 2D sprites for the characters - just like TS does. The one major way you can customize your team is that each character (except for the main protagonist) can choose part-way through the game between 2 different class paths. These paths are significantly different from each other though, like being an archer vs a flying melee unit, or a wizard vs a monk. So there's still enough customization from this one aspect that I've beaten the game a half dozen times and had a unique experience each time tackling all the different scenarios with different class setups. At the same time, this being really the only customization option means I'm not wasting a bunch of time in menus shuffling around gear and elements and ability loadouts and so on. I admit it is a bit easier than TS on Hard mode since, sadly, there is no difficulty option. Many scenarios are still very challenging though, especially compared to team-building-and-grinding focused TTRPG's like TO and FFT, simply because there's really no viable option to just power your team to victory. In terms of pure numbers, the enemy almost always has the advantage in unit numbers and power (and often even terrain), so your tactical choices are the only tool you have to overcome the odds.

This is like the second time I’ve heard about Vandal Hearts. I’m definitely going to have to add it to my ever growing list of games to play. I checked out some of the gameplay, so far it looks really interesting and right up my alley. Thanks for the suggestion.

I'm not going to read your whole post. Because making an argument about difficulty while using A.I. to play for you is about the dumbest argument I've possibly ever heard. You just made flat earthers look reasonable. smh

@@serfillustrated4018 A game like this shouldn’t even have an auto-battle feature IMHO… I’m certainly not advocating its use for actual gameplay. You claim my argument is dumb yet provide no counter-argument, nor even an explanation on how exactly my experiment is flawed. Classic ad hominem circumstantial fallacy there. My whole argument is that in-combat tactical maneuvers don’t matter nearly as much as your team makeup does in games like TOR. What better way to test that hypothesis than pitting the game’s AI against itself? If my team consistently wins, team makeup must matter more than tactics and the player team must be at an advantage. If my team usually loses, it mean that the enemy has the advantage and the only way to win would be to use superior tactics compared to what the dumb AI uses. If it was about a 50/50 win rate, than that would indicate that team makeup and tactics have about equal impact on player success. Using the auto-battle feature like that was simply part of the basics of any good experiment - eliminate variables! This experiment proved to me that in TOR, the player has the advantage (unless they suck at building a decent team), able to play as stupidly as the AI’s team does in the actual fights and still win anyway. In the games I’m contrasting it to, the opposite is true - using the same basic dumb tactics as the enemy would result in the player’s team losing, because the player's team is at a disadvantage even when their team is built optimally. I'm not saying TOR is a bad game, and I'm clearly in the minority for preferring TS. I'm just saying that I personally prefer TTRPG's that focus on tactics more than team building (as rare as they are), and in TOR is obviously a team-building-focused game (like most TTRPGs) that was too easy for my taste when I played it without using AI, and I proved my team always had the advantage anyway when I ran my experiment using the AI feature. EDITED to make shorter (as hard as that is to believe).

I have just over 100 hours in unicorn overlord. I still haven’t beat it yet, I’m having too much fun.

There’s definitely better units later on but it’s so much fun to try and stack as many buffs as I can on her for discharge. I feel like most defensive characters fall off because the game seems to really favor nuking your enemy faster than they can nuke you.

Ochlys definitely held it down for me too. I ended up in Drakenhold first, it’s so nice that the open world actually feels open as far as player freedom. Auch was the last character I recruited in Cornia because I never went north of the starting point and wrapped all the way around reverse.

Im actually on the opposite side of this, the Avlora fights and the Rosellan village maps are two of my favorites. I consider most them defense maps so maybe those just aren’t your jam. I will admit the Avlora maps are long but there are ways to end some of them quickly. You do die very easily in hard mode but that’s kind of what I love about it. The juice is worth the squeeze. Anyways, thanks for sharing your opinion I appreciate it.

"coin toss" comes to mind when it comes to instant death.. and "spark" is OP for the AI side.. kills you almost instantly

I think the idea of a “greater evil” bringing together unlikely allies can be interesting. In a situation where death is looming I feel like you get to see the extremes of emotions and feelings. I think forgiveness plays a huge role here. Forgiving others and oneself in the wake of mutual destruction. Or maybe I’m just talking out of my ass. If you like themes of war between humans, have you played Triangle Strategy? It might be up your alley.

Nice, I have my Lex frontlining a squad with Hilda, I also run provoke because it’s so good.