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Pastel Birds - Infinite Painter Tutorial #39
Welcome to an Infinite Painter step by step tutorial, in a series of draw along with me videos for beginners. In this series I hope to educate you on the tools it has to offer, with each video having used new tools.
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⬇️ REQUIREMENTS
📏 CANVAS SIZE: 2000x2000 pixels
🎨 PALETTE File : drive.google.com/file/d/1ZcQGMe2x8lJoNgQFmTYG7r0eIwtH-kHc/view?usp=sharing
💬 How to IMPORT palettes : ua-cam.com/video/M5h6YYX0AJM/v-deo.html
🎨 Or you can add a palette manually:
drive.google.com/file/d/1BKoG7S0YyWCx-H1omcXkt7g82Fz9RNmP/view?usp=sharing
💬 How to MANUALLY ADD palettes : ua-cam.com/video/8iM1GurE86k/v-deo.html
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📸 Follow along and be sure to tag me in your creations
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Copyright notice: My tutorials are meant for practice purposes, feel free to share your results on social media and tag me. You are not allowed to use direct copies of my artwork for commercial purposes, such as selling prints.
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How to Import images into HiPaint
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Welcome to a series of helpful how to videos for HiPaint. In this video ill cover how you can add in photos to hipaint Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin 📸 Follow along and be sure to tag me in your creations INSTAGRAM : designswithjoel FACEBOOK: profile.php?id=100088725497175 FACEBOOK GR...
How to remove backgrounds in HiPaint
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Welcome to a series of helpful how to videos for HiPaint. In this video ill cover how you can remove backgrounds in HiPaint Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin 📸 Follow along and be sure to tag me in your creations INSTAGRAM : designswithjoel FACEBOOK: profile.php?id=100088725497175 FACEBO...
How to Colour Fill in HiPaint
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Welcome to a series of helpful how to videos for HiPaint. In this video ill cover how you can fill in a shape with colour in Hipaint. Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin 📸 Follow along and be sure to tag me in your creations INSTAGRAM : designswithjoel FACEBOOK: profile.php?id=100088725497...
3D Wallpaper Infinite Painter Tutorial #38
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Welcome to an Infinite Painter step by step tutorial, in a series of draw along with me videos for beginners. In this series I hope to educate you on the tools it has to offer, with each video having used new tools. Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin ⬇️ REQUIREMENTS 📏 CANVAS SIZE: 2160x1440 pixels 🎨 PALETTE File : ...
How to Import + Share brushes in HiPaint
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Welcome to a series of helpful how to videos for HiPaint. In this video ill cover how you can share a brush from Hipaint. As well as import a brush into HiPaint 00:00 Intro 00:07 Share a brush from HiPaint 00:52 Import a brush in HiPaint Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin 📸 Follow along and be sure to tag me in you...
2 Important considerations to know - XP Pen Magic Drawing Pad REVIEW
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Music by www.bensound.com License code: LUNO0K8VKJXUBV6P I'm always asked "what is a good android tablet for drawing?" So i reached out to XP Pen and they sent me their Magic Drawing Pad. a 12.2 inch Android Tablet, which comes with a Stylus, case , glove and stylus tips. Its now been a few weeks so here is my full review Check it out: US: www.shareasale.com/m-pr.cfm?merchantID=98425&userID=336...
Paint Clouds in Infinite Painter - Tutorial 37
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Welcome to an Infinite Painter step by step tutorial, in a series of draw along with me videos for beginners. In this series I hope to educate you on the tools it has to offer, with each video having used new tools. Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin ⬇️ REQUIREMENTS 📏 CANVAS SIZE: 2160 x 1440 pixels 🎨 PALETTE File ...
Blue Moon Infinite Painter Tutorial 36
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Welcome to an Infinite Painter step by step tutorial, in a series of draw along with me videos for beginners. In this series I hope to educate you on the tools it has to offer, with each video having used new tools. Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin ⬇️ REQUIREMENTS 📏 CANVAS SIZE: 2000x2000 pixels 🎨 PALETTE File : ...
HiPaint tutorial 2 - Neon Planet
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Welcome to a tutorial using HiPaint, in a series of draw along with me videos for beginners. In this series I hope to educate you on the tools it has to offer, with each video having used new tools. XP Pen Magic Drawing Pad US: www.shareasale.com/m-pr.cfm?merchantID=98425&userID=3364766&productID=1365491563 UK: www.shareasale.com/m-pr.cfm?merchantID=98425&userID=3364766&productID=1366637505 EU:...
XP Pen Android Magic Drawing Pad - Unboxing and Impressions
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I'm always asked "what is a good android tablet for drawing?" So i reached out to XP Pen and they sent me their Magic Drawing Pad. a 12.2 inch Android Tablet, which comes with a Stylus, case , glove and stylus tips Check it out: US: www.shareasale.com/m-pr.cfm?merchantID=98425&userID=3364766&productID=1365491563 UK: www.shareasale.com/m-pr.cfm?merchantID=98425&userID=3364766&productID=136663750...
Mountain lake - Infinite Painter Tutorial 35
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Welcome to an Infinite Painter step by step tutorial, in a series of draw along with me videos for beginners. In this series I hope to educate you on the tools it has to offer, with each video having used new tools. Support the channel and become a member to get extra benefits : ua-cam.com/channels/yjzVS3HZn0gTgIz7JMjc8Q.htmljoin ⬇️ REQUIREMENTS 📏 CANVAS SIZE: 2000x2000 pixels Layers used : 34 ...
How to Back Up and Restore Canvases in HiPaint
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How to Back Up and Restore Canvases in HiPaint
How to Back Up and Restore Infinite Painter Work
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Space themed - Infinite Painter Tutorial #34
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20 HiPaint Tips and Tricks - Perfect For Beginners
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Octopus - Infinite Painter Tutorial 33
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HiPaint, Android's Procreate?
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How to import palettes in HiPaint
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @JeanneBook
    @JeanneBook 2 дні тому

    Thanks for this video's, i stopped using IP a few years ago and now I've just redownloaded it most features are confusing, this is very helpful.

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 2 дні тому

      Glad it was helpful 😀 I hope you’re enjoying IP

  • @Illicoprestige
    @Illicoprestige 4 дні тому

    I indeed prefer the overlay style as some shadows look really dark in my opinion. The palette is awesome tho and I like how each tutorial reuses previous concepts + some exclusive tricks !

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 2 дні тому

      Thank you 🤩 I’m glad you enjoy them

  • @navonilguha9182
    @navonilguha9182 4 дні тому

    hey awesome video, one question, when i use the fill tool there’s white lines (uncoloured pixels) at the borders , how do i fix that?

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 3 дні тому

      When you fill you can tap, hold and drag to the right to increase the strength. You might have to then try again

  • @jomilsonandal1709
    @jomilsonandal1709 4 дні тому

    How to get the symmetrical line

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 3 дні тому

      Full tutorial is on my channel

  • @ricardomartinez9860
    @ricardomartinez9860 4 дні тому

    As advice You could show us what tolls you use

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 4 дні тому

      The are trailers for the full step by step tutorials on my channel

  • @jamiedemapitan4164
    @jamiedemapitan4164 5 днів тому

    clipping is quite useful

  • @bluemagic5653
    @bluemagic5653 5 днів тому

    What is the lasso tool use for??

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 5 днів тому

      To make selections that you could then make adjustments to

  • @cheralynn4417
    @cheralynn4417 5 днів тому

    This review was excellent and covered some things other reviews didn't. But I still have a few questions. Is the screen protector replaceable when the installed one wears out? And is the tablet upgradeable to newer android versions? Thank you!

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 5 днів тому

      Hey 👋 I believe u covered both questions in the video. 1. It can not be removed which means it can not be replaced. 2. It won’t be updated

    • @cheralynn4417
      @cheralynn4417 5 днів тому

      @@joeldesigns That's what I thought I heard in your video but thanks for confirming. Those are deal breakers for me because they shorten the life of the tablet. I found your channel though and am going o try infinite painter. Thanks again!

  • @Doggy-B
    @Doggy-B 6 днів тому

    Hi Joel, thanks for this video, I've been super interested in this as an upgrade from my Samsung note 10. Can you possibly tell me if it is capable of streaming via twitch while using it for drawing? I know you mention it struggles with multiple apps being open, but hoping 2 apps isn't too taxing.

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 2 дні тому

      Hey 👋 if you mean have twitch open viewing a stream, then he’s this is possible. More so in a side by side view. I’m not sure about a pop out overlay player 😀

    • @Doggy-B
      @Doggy-B 2 дні тому

      @@joeldesigns I am able to do it on my Samsung, I imagine it's capable, but we both know how unstable IP can get 🤣

  • @vincenxius
    @vincenxius 6 днів тому

    I am learning to use hi paint from your videos, now infinite paint looks more amazing ❤❤

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 6 днів тому

      It’s probably my favourite out of the two (infinite painter)

  • @jusking643
    @jusking643 6 днів тому

    at the start i couldnt even figure how to color but this really helped😊

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 6 днів тому

      That’s awesome, I’m glad I could help ☺️

  • @ritggrd
    @ritggrd 6 днів тому

    Great vid but how to invite people in infinite paint to draw with me ?😢😢

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 6 днів тому

      That’s not a feature ☺️

    • @ritggrd
      @ritggrd 6 днів тому

      @@joeldesigns :( what about hipaint?@

  • @danielamellado7522
    @danielamellado7522 7 днів тому

    Amazing tutorial, I loved it! thank you!!

  • @SageNightt
    @SageNightt 7 днів тому

    Never stop please! Ill join once i can! Ive been able to understand, learn, and remember things from your videos! So much appreciated 👏🏼

  • @shahriezhasyam4566
    @shahriezhasyam4566 7 днів тому

    why there's no "select layer" option on my HiPaint?

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 7 днів тому

      I’m not sure what you’re seeing in your screen? If you’re having difficulty still, try sending me a message on Instagram

  • @amberenjerrettoosterman1505
    @amberenjerrettoosterman1505 7 днів тому

    Mauve a weird question but what pen are you using as I cant ger used to my s pen when drawing

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 7 днів тому

      I use an iPad Pro and Apple Pencil 😀

  • @rae_tran
    @rae_tran 7 днів тому

    how do you make it so that the drawn shapes turn into the perfect shapes? i’ve been trying to figure it out

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 7 днів тому

      In settings there’s an option for it. Open a canvas and go to settings

    • @rae_tran
      @rae_tran 3 дні тому

      @@joeldesigns ok thank you!

  • @bampidraws
    @bampidraws 8 днів тому

    Joel you're such an amazing person spending you're time teaching us. Thank you so much for what you do.

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 7 днів тому

      My pleasure! Thank you 🙏

  • @user-zb7it8ok6e
    @user-zb7it8ok6e 8 днів тому

    Joon

  • @vishapsharma7494
    @vishapsharma7494 9 днів тому

    I like your videos very much. I am learning by watching your videos. Please make some doodle art too.

  • @user-cq7mv3wu7f
    @user-cq7mv3wu7f 9 днів тому

    Good!

  • @LittleMissSquiggles
    @LittleMissSquiggles 11 днів тому

    OH! Y'know, I've watched a couple of reviews about this tablet and I believe you are the first person to mention that the XP Magic Drawing Pen has a PC mode, similar to how Samsung tablets have Samsung Dex. Thank you for mentioning this otherwise I would've have known. Now I'm curious to know more about how the PC mode on this tablet performs and whether or not this means that you can use this tablet with an external monitor. If you have experimented more with those features, do you mind talking more in depth about it for those curious?

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 10 днів тому

      Hey, so i dont beleive external monitor support is a feature. The PC mode isnt so much a different set of features, but simply changing the interface to be more PC like with floating windows

  • @prinkidoodles
    @prinkidoodles 11 днів тому

    Is there a text tool? I think it could be really useful.

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 10 днів тому

      Sadly not, but HiPaint does

  • @nanonano03
    @nanonano03 11 днів тому

    Please create tutorial on how to use the Gradient map. I recently got Infinite Painter and love it for its rich features... Thanks so much for your IP tutorials and creations, they are helpful. ^_^

  • @ameliaroseillustrations
    @ameliaroseillustrations 12 днів тому

    Thank you for the tips! I was wondering can you add a photo into HiPaint? Say, if you want to draw over an image and then remove the image once you’re done, can you do that?

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 12 днів тому

      Hey try this video : ua-cam.com/video/2IVcZL0NRH4/v-deo.html

  • @mrgiggly21
    @mrgiggly21 12 днів тому

    so gradient doesn’t really work for me when i try it doesn’t give me the circle affect that it gives you and it doesn’t show up any advice??

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 12 днів тому

      You need to change it to radial and make sure the icon to the left of the tick is pressed off

  • @ms.carlawong
    @ms.carlawong 13 днів тому

    Is there any limitation on layers like Procreate?

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 13 днів тому

      Yes I believe so 😀 which is device hardware specific

  • @ladzydrawss1022
    @ladzydrawss1022 13 днів тому

    Thank you!

  • @ihorsvir
    @ihorsvir 13 днів тому

    A hint regarding the star sky -- it's possible to use any brush to draw shapes, so I selected circle and that splatter brush, and it gave me an interactive splatter which I could move and reshape to my liking, while being still sparse

  • @TylerAbair
    @TylerAbair 14 днів тому

    For some reason, my clay roller never runs out of paint in a stroke. I've messed with flow in all the settings, but I can't get it to dry out. Excellent tutorial, BTW. I used it for my partner and I to do something together while we're long distance. It was so great!

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 13 днів тому

      I wonder if it’s a pressure sensitive feature. That’s awesome I’m glad you enjoyed it 😀

  • @TomiwaAderoju-ec9yt
    @TomiwaAderoju-ec9yt 14 днів тому

    Where can we look for brushes good brushes to import

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 14 днів тому

      Sadly there is not many places at all on the internet

  • @ahmedm_seada
    @ahmedm_seada 14 днів тому

    Great As Always ❤❤💐

  • @IronsideEdits
    @IronsideEdits 14 днів тому

    Dang

  • @ahmedm_seada
    @ahmedm_seada 15 днів тому

    Followed your instructions till the end and i was so happy with the outcome thanks ❤❤, you got a subscriber

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 14 днів тому

      Thank you 🙏 I see you have done both my HiPaint tutorials. Did you know I provide the palette as an image in my infinite painter tutorials? So that people can use it to follow along in their app of choice

  • @zankarea_1821
    @zankarea_1821 15 днів тому

    Thank you 👍

  • @ladzydrawss1022
    @ladzydrawss1022 16 днів тому

    Thank you for the very easy to follow tutorial!🎉 But do you know how to use the bucket tool?

    • @ladzydrawss1022
      @ladzydrawss1022 16 днів тому

      Everytime I use it its just cover the whole canvas even though my drawing is enclosed. I tried to play around with the slider thingy but its not exactly helping😢

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 15 днів тому

      How to Colour Fill in HiPaint ua-cam.com/video/bt_02PhgwcU/v-deo.html

  • @cammiluna
    @cammiluna 16 днів тому

    I really want to give this tablet a chance for all the good points you talked about, but it's running an Android OS that's two versions behind. XP-Pen says that this tablet is incapable of ever getting OS upgrades and I fear this will affect long-term compatability with any or all art apps down the line. Great review!

    • @JA11206
      @JA11206 16 днів тому

      Wait, so I can't update it if ever? that's disappointing...

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 13 днів тому

      Yeah it’s not great that it won’t update 😕🙁

    • @raineclipse1542
      @raineclipse1542 2 дні тому

      Aw wait really? :( I was really hoping to get this tablet but that's so unfortunate, I wish they do something about this

  • @blurrsed
    @blurrsed 17 днів тому

    I'm just asking, i dont know if I wasn't really paying attention on the video or not, but can you download games or apps on the tablet? I've been trying to research before i buy it

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 17 днів тому

      Absolutely you can. It's normal Android :)

  • @MasMas98
    @MasMas98 19 днів тому

    I love this longer format!! Takes it to the next level. I would love it if you could throw some tips and explanations on why you use things, why you start a certain way or why one technique is better than another etc. So long story short: the why’s of your choices. It would make these videos even more educational and useful. But even as is, i love the content ❤

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 19 днів тому

      hey 👋 thank you ill bare it in mind :)

  • @AfrizalAnoda
    @AfrizalAnoda 20 днів тому

    anyone know how to make Fullscreen on landscape mode on Android tablet

  • @Numariene
    @Numariene 20 днів тому

    Thank you for the tutorial. It was fun and easy to follow! I learned a lot <3

  • @kimsolbakken6567
    @kimsolbakken6567 21 день тому

    Can't find the radial menu on the iPad app

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 20 днів тому

      Purhaps you need to turn it on in the settings first? for me it was there from the start

  • @JennyGgeneration
    @JennyGgeneration 21 день тому

    Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @sundayyymay
    @sundayyymay 22 дні тому

    1:45 I can't dock tools 😭 it's driving me crazy

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 20 днів тому

      Are you on mobile?

    • @sundayyymay
      @sundayyymay 20 днів тому

      @@joeldesigns tablet. Samsung tab s6 lite

  • @butterflyislife3056
    @butterflyislife3056 22 дні тому

    I've learnt soo much from these tutorials... Thank you soo much 💞

  • @berliozophile
    @berliozophile 22 дні тому

    I've been using the tablet for over a month and I've actually become quite impressed by it.

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 22 дні тому

      What’s your favourite things about it? ☺️☺️

    • @berliozophile
      @berliozophile 22 дні тому

      @@joeldesigns I like the surface, along with the felt nib. It has a great feel, just enough resistance, not like you're drawing on glass. Also, the speed, it's nice and snappy, been using Infinite Painter and Artrage Vitae thus far and haven't had any stuttering or crashes or anything.

    • @Thevr_guitarist
      @Thevr_guitarist 16 днів тому

      Did you have to have a android for it to work bcuz I’m getting this for my bday

  • @if-you-read-this-your-stupid
    @if-you-read-this-your-stupid 23 дні тому

    Thanks, i'm concidering tp buy one, so thanks for the review!

  • @pedrocardoso4384
    @pedrocardoso4384 23 дні тому

    Is there any way to change like the pressure of the pen? so it the line u make gets darker without drawing a 2nd line above the 1st line?

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 22 дні тому

      You would need to increase the size of the pen in the brush settings. There’s no pressures curve from what I can see

  • @RolloRoo
    @RolloRoo 24 дні тому

    Really great tutorial. Been having some frustration though with working with the fine blender brush, it doesnt seem to behave like yours on my one? It is hard and harsh so i enabled pressure on it but it seems random whether it wants to be soft or hard. Using s pen. Also the colour palatte you uploaded, including the image reference, is darker than the colours you used in the tutorial? The blue sky colour you used in the gradient for instance is more dark bluey grey on the app for me.

    • @joeldesigns
      @joeldesigns 22 дні тому

      First point, the brush I’m using is all the default settings so will be the same as yours, but your right the equipment could be acting differently and then affecting the brush. The palette is technically the same however I had a screen setting called NXTVision on which massively over saturated my screen. In the video I’m sure at the end I show you how to edit saturation if you choose to