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Its over for eternalcels

Doom Eternal just makes me enjoy playing the game more because its kind of th first game that is THAT arcade like that i played. Since i've played it i can understand people complaining about "videogames aren't what they used to be" because games nowdays are simply too easy at the hardest difficulity level or straight up unfair towards the player, whereas in Doom Eternal it is still the same game but actually made straight up harder without the use of unnecessary restrictions or modifications to the gameplay.

I'll truly miss the tone and atmosphere of this entry. I'm still a fan of Eternal and the new style in The Dark Ages, but I'll personally always prefer how they didn't shy away from the DOOM 3 look when it came to keeping that horror appeal in the presentation department. Takes itself seriously enough. The more colorful changes in future games are too arcadey for my liking tho I can definitely, easily set that aside.

Feel like this video accurately describes why I couldnt get into Eternal, played trough 2016 3 times, loved that game to death, but I coldnt even get halfway trough Eternal after multiple tries... the game just didint let me play it how I wanted to play it, in a way 2016 might have ruined Eternal for me because of expectations it set for how a "DOOM" game is supposed/could be played

wait, titanfall 2 came out the same year and people do claim titanfall 2 is the best single player shoot of all time???

it already aged like milk cuz of eternal

I hope they remake doom 64 using a new engine that is not as cartoony or colorful as the current engine used for current doom games. I'm hoping for a more grittier look and feel.

I think it's a great but imperfect game. I personally don't like the dashing, and the weapon mods need work, but that's really it.

I had no idea eternal was so decisive. It’s by far my favourite game

Ok but the flick at 12:53 was fire brother. 🔥

I recently tried playing a second start to finish campaign in eternal and I remembered why I didn't care for us the first time, and it's not because it's a significantly different game then '16: - The platforming and puzzle solving in eternal for me is boring, doesn't add anything to the game and exists for the sole purpose of adding play time. Some hopping around is fine, but in eternal it's just obnoxious. I'm here to shoot things not jump over them. - The arena-style circle the map combat gets boring after a while. Some locked in room encounters are fine sure, but in eternal lot of them are too long and too frequent. - For a fast pace shooter the combat system feels clunky at times, like the delay in switching weapons or trying to blood punch enemies, or forcing you to perform glory kills to get health back then spawing enemies right on top of you. And the add-on weapons are cool (e.g the flame belch) but the CDs are way to long to make them feel like an integral part of the combat system. - As you mentioned the maps have no coherency, they're just random areas or planets or whatever that the developers thought would look cool (and they do), but it detracts the story and flow of the game, it doesn't feel progressive.

Awesome video! Would you ever consider making a following video about the Ancient Gods DLC? Love to get your take on the encounters, music, plot insanity, and overall enjoyment of those challenging dlcs.

Old Doom wasn't hard, it had player choice and just nothing like Eternal. I liked every Doom besides Eternal :(

Great vid bro! Eff the haters! Keep slayin!

Eternal was the sweet spot imo BUT it makes me excited for dark ages. Another hit will be really impressive. MAYBE Microsoft can let id make a halo spinoff

I'm here to give this video a like and some exposure. Don't worry about all these feathers you ruffled. I agree with pretty much every one of these criticisms, I think there's a little more freedom than people give the game credit for but it still has a very specific combat loop that it wants you to engage with. Which is not my favorite way to play Doom, but it's still a great system. The game is still a fantastic shooter. But I don't really care for the art style compared to the others, It feels so goofy in cartoony in this one, I hate all the platforming in between combat segments. I find it to be just janky and annoying. I'm not complaining about all the new mobility you have, but I only enjoy that during combat. And I still don't think the Marauder is a great enemy. It's not a skill issue, I've beat the game, I just don't find him fun to fight, in fact the only time I think they did him well was the DLCs I also miss the vibe that 2016 had with putting gameplay over story. I think it was better when this stuff was relegated to just some lore in the background. That being said I own two copies of this game I have run through the campaign multiple times along with both DLC chapters, and I've messed around with the master levels and horde mode, and just in general have gone back to play levels that I like It's a fantastic game, There's just a lot that I don't care for that much about it which keeps it from being in my top favorites in the franchise

It's not the game that divided a fanbase, it's the players that wanted to devide each others because they lost an argument or they find themselves hard to study the newer mechanics, accepting it as what it is and have fun. It's hard to accept something changed through out the years but yeah if you don't like it, just move on, don't hate something and put hatred towards people who enjoyed it just because it's not ur taste. Yeah and those game journalists needs to f*ck off 🤌

Some people had issues with the Glory kill animations mid games and said that it broke the flow of combat. I had no issues with the Glory kill system since 2016 and up until Eternal cause it's a cheesy way to bale out of tough situations or when I made a mistake on harder levels, or sometimes I needed to catch a break to figure out what mistakes I did by simply watching our modern barbarian guy shredding demons into bits, idk but sometimes it was kind of a stress releaver lol. Since Dark Age came out and they removed the Glory kill animation out of non-powerup gameplay I'd say they better include as many exclusive Execution animations on the Berserk powerup as possible and include more power ups on the higher levels and put it on a out of bound or a corner or somthing so that people have choices of either picking it up or not.

If you want to hear something else from Mick Gordon, then I recommend to you the Killer Instinct Season 1 and 2 OST. That soundtrack introduced me to Mick Gordon and I think it's the best soundtrack he has made. Most of Mick's soundtracks since Doom just have that similar style, and while I like it, it gets very repetitive. But I Killer Instinct, every song sounds so different, that it's incredible all of them belong to the same game.

did you play the game? genuine question.

I feel the combat has too many buttons. You have 3 different melee weapons that do 3 different things, a grenade launcher that switches between 2 different types of grenades, and a punch that’s only useful when powered up. Don’t get me wrong, I love Eternal, but it really should’ve toned down some of those options. Make one melee weapon that can work as both the blood punch and the chainsaw, and make the crucible more of a power up. DOOM the Dark Ages seems to be doing just that, and I’m excited for it.

Well now that this video has gotten a reaction and I admittedly sperged out a bit too much in the comments earlier, I will say I respect this video for considering all perspectives and both sides on this topic. Every other video I've seen about this game is all about either why it's great or why it sucks and this is probably the only video I've seen that tries to understand both of those views and explain why you love it but also why you can understand why other people don't. When it comes to accomplishing that goal you did a great job

Tbh I always thought Eternal made made 2016 look generic, which is crazy because Doom 2016 is doom 2016

No it was not divisive. First time hearing it. 😂😂

Really hard to play doom 2016 after eternal without hopping and swapping

Glory Kills aren't "crucial" on higher difficulties. Ask any casual Ultra-Nightmare player out there, everyone refrains from doing them. Because getting 5HP back only to just immediately get killed by an imp who one shots you with 75dmg from across the arena simply isn't worth the risk. Health and especially armor need to be kept high at all time until you get the siphon grenade. Doom 2016 made Glory Kills essential and more balanced, but it also feels forced on the player. Don't get me started on the chainsaw in Eternal, the ammo limitation was just stupid and forced.

i came here from underthemayo and was sad to see the comments being so rough, i disagree with some points you made plenty of others have mentioned but it offered a new perspective i appreciate. Eternal turned me into way more of a doom fan than i would have if it never released, I have trouble coming back to 2016 now that I’ve sunk so many hours into eternal and got accustomed to the high octane pace

It's dark aging

okay but doom eternal being hard and challenging it my favorite part about it, but i see why its might be frustrating because in the first play through didn't play for a week and when i came back to i got absolutely obliterated by demons and died way too much and had to grind and get good at it agian. -English is not my first language, so spare me

When i first tried eternal couldn't pass the first enemy and unistalled the game, later I downloaded it again and took the time to learn and became one of my favorite games, the phase of this game and the music is unique

Seeing a new Doom fan brings a tear to my eye. Doom (2016) is closer to the OG experience than Eternal.

I like all the modern era Doom games (3 included). They've all got their own flavor. My criticisms of Eternal are overused platform mechanics (they're not bad, just overused), and the expansions IMO were way too "busy." Like I'm on Ritalin and still can't focus on the number of mobs that pop up. My ADHD does not like the Ancient Gods at all. Also, not a deal breaker, but I don't like how weapon choice is determined by what demons are there. I like a little more freedom of choice.

If you want to play a game where you have to quick swap and jump like a addict or you're fucked play ultrakill

Just came here from Mayo’s video. I watched your Doom videos over the last few days and found them entertaining, it’s always great getting some perspective from someone new talking about the franchise. I agreed with a lot of your points, and there were a few things that you and I see differently, but hey, that’s fine. I enjoyed this video and your 2016 one. Subscribed, and I hope you continue to make Doom videos when Dark Ages comes out!

Is it cos I'm a crappy gamer, as I found this game very difficult and the semi open world map felt too busy and I found myself going round in circles. Other than that it's amazing.

I was unironically recommending players to use cheat engine to set their ammo reserves to 200% on release for a reason. Some ppl dont click with the combat, and thats okay. I dont appreciate when players conclude the combat's worse than 2016 without actually trying to engage with Eternal on it's own terms. The capacity for unique expression and playstyle are there, you just have to rip it out root and stem to see it. Not everyone wants that kind of effort in their games though, it took a minute to understand that

Great video! I do prefer the tone and atmosphere of 2016, but man, Eternal's combat is insane. I'm sure plenty have said it by now, but you're not actually forced to break weakpoints, it only feels that way at first when you're still getting comfortable with all the mechanics. I've done various challenge runs with my least preferred gun mods and even NO gun mods, and the game is still playable and beatable. Depending on mod choice, you can make your guns weakpoint breakers or raw damage dealers, meaning you can make any loadout work in this game, which is great for creativity and expression. And if you're good enough with your mobility, you can just straight up dodge Arachnotron and Mancubus fire. Ammo seems annoyingly low at first, but it teaches you to make your shots count and to figure out more efficient strategies. On the Flame Belch and Blood Punch, at first they seem like too much, I won't lie. I actually didn't use them during my first playthrough haha. But once you get comfortable with the game, they're such a great source of depth. The Flame Belch isn't necessary for survival, but it helps you tank extra damage. I LOVE burning groups of fodder and taking them out with a single rocket, so satisfying. The Blood Punch is best used as a crowd-clearer for when you get cornered, but it also breaks weakpoints and falters even superheavies, so you can use it defensively or offensively. The platforming isn't realistic no, but I've also come to find it really fun. You can bounce between walls as quickly as you can look and press jump, and even learn shortcuts to beat sections faster. I find it to be an extension of the game's speed and mobility. My favorite platforming levels are Super Gore Nest, Mars Core, and Urdak.

Another thing i always liked is that both 2016 and eternal are both pretty well optimized

How is this awesome game 9 years old already!!

I'm probably just bad at the new doom games, but ultra violence is that perfect sweet spot for me to feel challenged and appreciate the combat. Doom eternal is the ninja gaiden 2 of fps games.

I like that you weren’t even wrong about stardew valley at the start

Can we talk about Doom RPG for a moment? 😂

Here because of the Mayo man, he was right, good channel!

I love this video. Your great! screw these butt hurt haters in the comments

I ordered a chicken sandwich, I took a bite and found you under the mayo. It was very odd however that was a very good chicken sandwich.

If yall playing eternal and can’t get ammo and pretend u hv no player expression, there’s a chainsaw, whenever i feel pressed and like i need ammo I just use the chainsaw lmao yall are ass as fuck if that’s a complain, I’m playin in ultra violence and I been having fun using whatever guns I want, then if I want it to be easy I replay missions with cheats on

I played eternal first then i wanted to play 2016 becaus I had to. And 16 felt more like quake 2 not like doom game, ethernal makes you become better, and I dont want to talk about dlc of eternal, 16 is just strafe and shoot and that all 🤷‍♂️

Also, 2016 looks clean visually. Eternal is noisy af, sometimes needlessly On sekiro tho, that shit isnt a souls action rpg where you can cheese anything. It has simple mechanics that you have to master and boss fights to learn but youre still given a lot of powerful tools and leeway to experiment on creative ways dmto dispatch opponents. Thats like faulting devil may cry for being melee and combo focused or using jump on mario games all the time. Idk what kind of "different playstyle" would you want from a "sword" combat game