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Tournament Breakdown: Conquest Creations 'Triumph' | Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game| MESBG
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Welcome back to another Tournament Breakdown video. This video's all about Triumph a 500 one-day event run by Jacob of Conquest Creations fame. Both Sean and Alex attended Triumph and whilst both went undefeated one Triumphed and the other was left in the dust. Don't forget to Like, Subscribe and click the Notification bell so that you don't miss another video from us! 🐐🐐🐐 MOUNTAIN GOAT GAMING ...
Screaming Goats: MESBG new edition, What we know so far | Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game.
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Games Workshop has just teased us with some more new regarding the upcoming MESBG edition we will be receiving in the next few months. Both exciting and scary new, Sean and Alex discuss what we know of the new supplement and what it can mean for our game. Make sure to like, comment and subscribe for more MESBG and hobby content. 🐐🐐🐐 MOUNTAIN GOAT GAMING 🐐🐐🐐 wanna see more from us and get in tou...
Legendary Legion Deep Dive: Théodred's Guard |MESBG | Ft @intothewestpodcast
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In the episode Sean and Alex are joined by Richard and Ian from 'Into the West' to breakdown one the coolest legendary legions in the game. Ian has been running Theodreds Guard as an army since before it had an official Legendary Legion, so he is the perfect person to give us the ins and outs of this Legion and what really makes it tick. Make sure to like, comment and subscribe for more MESBG a...
Screaming Goats: Talking New MESBG Edition and model releases | Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game
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Jay and Sean jump on the bandwagon and talk all about the hot news that just come out of MESBG head quarters. New models, new editions, new supplements, the whole shebang. Don't forget to Like, Subscribe and click the Notification bell so that you don't miss another video from us! 🐐🐐🐐 MOUNTAIN GOAT GAMING 🐐🐐🐐 Want to keep up with what we're doing or want to get in touch? Instagram: instagram.co...
Tasmanian Grand Tournament Review.
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On this episode of MGG Jay, Sean and Alex talk all about the Tasmanian GT. Alex regales the boys with tales of his games and his climb to claiming yet another major Australian Tournament. Don't forget to Like, Subscribe and click the Notification bell so that you don't miss another video from us! 🐐🐐🐐 MOUNTAIN GOAT GAMING 🐐🐐🐐 Want to keep up with what we're doing or want to get in touch? TAS GT ...
How and When to use Heroic Actions in Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game / Ft @intothewestpodcast
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Sean and Jay are joined by one 3rd of 'Into the West' Charlies. The 3 lads go over 'Heroic Actions' and dive in to their application in game and how to get the most out of them. Some are trickier than others to apply at the right times in game, so hopefully this video will help new and veteran players hit the full potential that Heroic Actions can offer. Make sure to like, comment and subscribe...
Goats Butting Heads: Alex Vs Sean ~ Conquest Champions Season 3, Round 1 | MESBG.
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welcome back to Mountain Goat Gaming!!! In this video Sean and Alex talk in detail about their very 1st game against each other, which just so happened to be round 1 of the Conquest Creations Champions League. we all know who came out on top but join us as the lads get in to the nitty gritty of their choices both good and bad. 🎲🎲 CONQUEST CREATIONS 🎲🎲🎲 looking for high Quality MESBG batreps, he...
Tournament List Review: Tasmanian Grand Tournament 2024 | Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game | MESBG
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Welcome back to Mountain Goat Gaming! Join Jay and Alex as they review the lists submitted for the Tasmanian GT, an Australian 800 point tournament for the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game. Listen in to hear their thoughts on the lists, and which they believe will be most likely to achieve victory! Don't forget to Like, Subscribe and click the Notification bell so that you don't miss another v...
How to prepare for an MESBG Tournament | Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game
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Welcome to Mountain Goat Gaming! In this video, we’re thrilled to introduce our newest member, Alex Colasante! Join Jay and Alex as they discuss how to prepare for an MESBG (Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game) tournament, sharing their top tips and tricks to help you achieve the best results. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and click the bell button to receive notifications whenever we post new...
The Top 3 Armies and Profiles of @ConquestCreations . Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game | MESBG
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Sean and Jacob meet up in person and talk all about Jacobs too 3 favorite armies and his 3 favorite profiles in game. Jacob brings alot of in sight to some profiles and armies that aren't often seen represented on the table top. make sure to like, comment and subscribe for more MESBG and hobby content. 🎲🎲🎲 CONQUEST CREATIONS 🎲🎲🎲 looking for high Quality MESBG batreps, head on over to conquest c...
SW PAINTING STUDIO: The Artist that caught our eyes
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In this video we sit down with Scott of 'SW Painting Studio' to talk all about his journey as a hobbyist/commission painter and how he found his style. Scott is even kind enough to pass on some tricks of the trade, useful for hobbyists of all skill levels. 🔔make sure to like, comment and subscribe for more MESBG and hobby content. 👨🎨🖌️🎨SW Painting Studio 🎨🖌️👨🎨 Looking to get some commission w...
Tournament Breakdown: Assault on the Garden City - Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game | MESBG
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Mountain Goat Gaming has just had it's 1st official tournament, and it was a major success. Jay and Sean run through the tournament itself giving you the ins and outs of the event as well as goals for the next MGG tournament, and of course talk shop about the 3 amazing army lists that achieved a podium finish. 👀👀Where to keep up to date with Aus and QLD events👀👀 QLD MESBG LEAGUE: s...
Tournament Lists Review: Assault on the Garden City. Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game | MESBG
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Jay and Sean take a dive into a couple of the more Unique army lists that will be seen at Mountain Goat Gaming's first official tournament 'Assault on the Garden City' and try and figure what makes each list tick.
Herding Goats - How to assemble a team of players at the international scale (Ft @anyheroics)
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In this video MGG teams up with Any Heroics to cover the team format of MESBG and dive into the micro management of running a team. There’s some cool stat stuff too! Be sure to like and subscribe if you like what we’re about 🫶🏽 🤠🤠🤠ANY HEROICS 🤠🤠🤠 youtube.com/@anyheroics?si=mLbWiBc4NcWUGav1
Tournament Review: Table Top Con 2024. Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game | MESBG
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Tournament Review: Table Top Con 2024. Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game | MESBG
The hype continues to build, Must say my biggest take away was how spectacular the wolves look among other models. Would love to get an article in featuring the trolls before the release.
Sean is having a hard time not starting a new army because of the new edition? Sounds like the perfect time to start an army that will definitely be in the new edition! *Cough* Angmar *Cough*
I think the stuff that’s gonna go legends must tick at least 2 out of 4 of the following boxes: 1. Non book/movie character (i.e GW creation) 2. Long OOP Metal/Finecast sculpt 3. Redundant profile to an army list that is rarely seen 4. Thematically/visually does not fit the Peter Jackson LOTR ‘look’ Stuff like the Golden King, Gulavhar, the GW Fanfic Nazgul, Osgiliath Veterans, Feral Uruks, Khand + Far Harad, Stormcallers, Khardush are all in danger Additionally, nothing that has had a plastic/Forge World release in the last 5 years will go Jay plays the game a lot, so I’m confident he’ll choose wisely
It's funny, I have my own wolf pack ready with 1 chieftain, 6 classic wargs (that I use an alternate profile with Fight 4 ^^) and 12 fell wargs. Just need a couple of werewolfs and we're good 😁 For the v7, I did a list of all the armies I could think about (on LL base) and I have in total over 100 lists. 28 for the Armies of The Lord of The Rings (14 Good - 14 Evil), 23 for the Armies of The Hobbit (14 Good - 9 Evil) and 50 for the Armies of Middle-Earth (33 Good - 17 Evil), including some alt book armies version (Defenders of Helm's Deep with Eomer instead of elves).
Here the lists : (they are in chronological order) Armies of The Lord of The Rings: - The Last Alliance - The Garnison of Osgiliath (flashback with Boromir with banner) - The Fellowship of The Ring - Lorien's Guardians (Haldir and brothers borders patrol) - Breaking of The Fellowship LL - Riders of Éomer (destroying Ugluk's scout) - Rangers of Ithilien LL - Defenders of Helm's Deep LL - The March of The Ents - The Dead of Dunharrow - Defenders of Minas Tirith (including Fiefs as Imrahil and Forlong) - The Riders of Theoden LL - The Return of The King LL - The Men of The West LL - Barad-Dur - The Black Riders LL - Depths of Moria LL - Lurtz's Scouts LL - Ugluk's Scouts LL - Isengard Raiders (uruks and wild men ravaging Rohan's farms) - Wolves of Isengard LL - Assault Upon Helm's Deep LL - Isengard (Saruman and orcs remains on side against the Ents) - The Army of Gothmog LL - The Charge of The Mumakils (full Mumak LL as in the movie ^^) - The Corsairs Fleets - Cirith Ungol LL - The Black Gate Opens LL Armies of The Hobbit: - Garnison of Dale (Girion against Smaug) - Thror's Army (Azanulbizar) - Thorin's Company - Elrond's Hunters (full elves riders LL) - The Misty Mountains (Eagles) - Rangers of Mirkwood LL - Halls of Thranduil (fighting against Bolg's assault) - Lake-town's Guard - The Vanquishers of The Necromancer LL - Survivors of Lake-town - Army of Mirkwood - The Iron Hills - Erebor Reclaimed (with Thorin's & Co) - Radagast's Alliance - Desolator of The North (Smaug) - The Trolls - Azog's Hunters - Goblin-town - Dark Denizens of Mirkwood - Pits of Dol Guldur LL - Rise of The Necromancer LL - Azog's Legion (without Bolg, Berserkers, Goblins and War Bats) - The Garnison of Gundabad (Bolg, Berserkers, Goblins and War Bats + Gundabad Orcs with simple armors) Armies of Middle-Earth: - The Grey Havens (Gil-Galad, Elrond and Cirdan) - Eregion (Celebrimbor and Celeborn) - Khazad-Dum (Durin III) - Rivendell (Elrond, Celeborn and Glorfindel) - Numenor (the ones coming to help elves moving Sauron out of Eregion) - Survivors of Numenor (Elendil and Sons) - Defenders of Fornost (Arvedui and Malbeth, probably new LL coming) - Avengers of Arnor LL (the new one with Earnur and Glorfindel) - Fall of Khazad-Dum (Durin VI, his son Nain the Ist killed by the Balrog too and grand-son Thrain the Ist that fly away with the remanings dwaves) - Kingdoms of The Grey Mountains (Dwarven colonies fighting cold drakes from the north) - Riders of Eorl - Helm's Guard (new movie) - Erebor (before Smaug, with non-naked dwarves) - The Great Army of The Dwaves (book version, lead by Thrain and dwarves from the seven families) - Thrain's Company (Thrain, Balin, Dwalin and Co first failed attempt to Erebor) - The Five Armies (book version, Men + Elves + Dwarves + Thorin & Co + Eagles and Beorn fighting all together) - Erebor Reclaimed (king Dain) - Balin's Expedition (to Moria, with a mix of Erebor, scouts and Khazad-Dum style) - The Rangers of Eriador (Arador/Arathorn/Aragorn rangers) - The Beornings - The Fiefdoms - The Army of Dale (during the War of the Ring) - Théodred's Guard LL - Defenders of Helm's Deep (book version, with Eomer and no Elves) - Riders of Erkenbrand (instead of Eomer LL, with Gandalf) - The Grey Company - Wilds Men of Druadan - Paths of The Druadan LL - Reinforcement From Pelargir (The 3 Hunters, the Grey Company and Fiefdoms Angbor and Duinhir) - Lothlorien - Fighters Under The Trees (Thranduil's Hall during War of the Ring) - Defenders of Erebor LL - Defenders of The Shire LL - Angmar (new LL coming) - The Awakening of The Shadow and Flame (similar to Depths of Moria but not around Balrog and more goblins) - The Grey Mountains (goblins and dragons) - Wolf Pack LL - Bolg's Army (book version: goblins, wolfs and bats) - Trolls of Ettenmoors (Buhrdur's Troll LL) - The Harad - The City of Umbar (haradrim, corsairs and black numenoreans) - Far Harad - Variags of Khand - Army of Dunland LL (maybe a new version with the new movie) - Grand Army of The South LL - Ost of The Est (Amdur and easterlings on Pelenor's field) - Assault on Lothlorien LL - Fell Beings of Mirkwood LL - Hordes of The Dragon Emperor LL - The Chief's Ruffians LL
Mateeeee if we get exactly what you have written down, I'll be the damn happiest person on earth. What a great edition it'll be if we have all these. -Sean
Picked up an Elrond from my local game shop the other day in expectation of the Gondor LL
Buzzing for Wolves of Angmar too, just to give you a welllll acktualllyyyy moment, Deorwine and Elfhelm are both book characters, so I'm hoping they stay as well as giving Grimbold a hoss!
@@thomasdenney6891 Grimbold’s horse is a necessary inclusion! -Alex
My Apologies to all you beautiful viewers and listeners. In my haste to edit and upload this video so I could get back in to bed I forgot to switch the audio setting to Stero. Sorry for the inconvenience and I hope this doesn't stop you from giving us a listen. -Sean the irredeemable
I hope your sound is sub par. Otherwise I need to buy new headphones. I get mono
In my haste I've forgotten to switch it from mono to stereo. My apologies. -sean
Loving the paintjob on the Dale. They look so good.
Why thankyou my good sir. -Sean
Hey thats me in game 1 against Sean! I was super nervous playing someone who was a legend to me, but that game calmed me down for the rest of the tourney so thanks for being the best opponent ive had Sean!
It was a pleasure to meet and play you mate. See you at the QLD GT. -Sean
Can you get sean to do a short explaining bow limits
It's called. Hit the max limit then spam siege weapons. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming. or over the max limit in this case 😂
True I was 2 over. That's on the TO for not checking 🤣🤣
Damn really pumping out the good stuff boys, nice work!
We do what we can mate -Sean
What a kingly gift this Monday morning
I love that our midnight can provide a morning rise for ya
well Boromir Captain of the White Tower is in the Two Towers so I don't see he being in Legends or Armies of Middle Earth, I think that he'll be in Armies of Lord of the Rings I don't see how they would put him in Legends, but that's just my Opinion
Special Strikes will still be in the game - just nested into various unit's profiles where it is appropriate. A hobbit with an "axe" should not be able to deal the amount of damage that "piercing strike" allows you to.
Agreed. Would still love to see some profiles get unique interactions with their wargear (Witch King’s Flail NEEDS to have its own special rule). -Alex
Im excited, I think based of a few snippets of information getting yourself worked up about what could possibly go wrong seems like a lot of wasted energy. Lets see what the team does especially around legacy and army building before we start declaring the sky is falling.
There are alot of ppl acting as if it's the end of the world and the end of MESBG. Ppl have been saying this shit since I started playing in 2010. I think it's healthy to have some caution Especially after such an amazing edition we are currently in. Excited to see what happens and to get my hand dirty with the new edition -Sean
I'm not sure if I was misunderstanding you, or you read the legacies bit wrong? Legacies isn't a book, it's the last gasp of models they won't be making/updating ever again (and their middle finger to 3d-printing/scrach building folk), like how they are phasing out the firstborn for Primaris, but if they just deleted them in one shot there would be riots from SM players. Like a large number of Forge World being removed and making your 200 dollar tank become a paperweight. Most of those will be book based units I'd assume Other than that, sad about the loss of strikes, would rather that go into an optional rules area, rather than just being scrapped entirely. My club certainly used them a lot. Most batreps use them, and given that's what got me backnjnto the game, that's old hat to me, so rather jarring I think.
Wow. I did not expect people to like the legendary legion changes. It sounds like they are gutting list building. Right now our current legendary legion have no variety in them. Every Gothmog legion looks like every other Gothmog legion. That sounds very very dull. We need to have more information to see how the system works before we can truly judge, but . . . you all are far more optimistic than I am.
I'm absolutely buzzed. If it is anything like the 2006 legions of middle earth book and how armies were portrayed in that book we are in for an amazing edition. -Sean
30-35 LL off the bat anything less ill be annoyed
Yeah gonna have to be a big number aye. -Sean
Glad I watched this it put my mind at ease! I look forward to the next episode of Sean Chats to a Man in a Bush 🌳
Don't think there is anything at all to be worried about. Change is scary but I'm 90% sure this new edition will be absolutely amazing. Ignore all the nah sayers. -Sean
I think the main thing that needs changing are the Matched Play Scenarios. Too many of them are straight up unbalanced and/or unfun, either depending on who has priority (Maelstrom) or just broken depending on lists, like Contest. Others like Heirlooms always seem to elicit eye rolls at tournaments. When only 50% or so scenarios are fun, it needs fixing
I'd like to keep the scenarios we have but just add more. I do wanna see maelstrom becoming alternating warbands. -Sean
Don’t worry if it’s shit I’ll teach y’all all old world. ❤
Nah teach me 40k Just finished painting up a combat patrol -Sean
Since the OG 2001 game, there have been very few core fundamental changes to the rules, so hopefully this continues. I think Jay for the most part has been a good steward of the game and should recognise that it’s already a very well balanced and fun rule set
Jay Clare and the specialist games team are brilliant. They have worked wonders on kill team, war cry, blood bowl ect. Jay's is also passionate about MESBG, we are in good hands -Sean
Hear me out… Pelennor Fields army list: the three hunters, king of the dead, army of the dead, Eomer (at fight 6 of course) and riders of rohan. They were all there in the movie, so they must be an army list according to James W… hear me out x2, take it a step further and go book version: fiefdoms, rangers of the north, plus all the above. These are the army lists I want to see
You're mixing up Armies of Middle-Earth (a third book of profiles, released slightly later but still just as valid as the first two) and Legacies of Middle-Earth (a free PDF of profiles that are no longer going to be supported/used in official tournaments). So all the new Arnor/Angmar stuff will be in Armies of Middle-Earth, and still be fully legal and useable in tournaments.
(Armies of Middle Earth will just be anything that wasn't directly in the films/books. So older time periods, different regions, etc.)
This actually just makes so much sense. So legacies will basically be profiles with no models. Looking at war drakes, signal tower ect. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming. I was more thinking about figurines that exist but that will no longer have profils, because not able to put them in any thematic list or that are not enough to make a competitive list with. Mainly GW creations like Golfimbul or isolated ones like Tom Bombadil and Barliman Butterbur.
@@Ancalaggolfimbul is not a GW creation😅. But i totally see him going into the legacy pdf.
@@grimgrauman7650 I was persuaded that the chief orc Bandobras fought has no name and GW invented one, but you right. I started to get old, my memory tricks me 😅
I kinda feel intelligence will impact magic potentially in a big way going into the new edition. This could be simply impact casting or resisting, or something else in regards to casting, as instead of being a 2+, 3+ etc. You can have an int check to cast the spell.
I'm definitely curious to see what's gonna happen with magic in this new edition. I'd like it to be toned down a bit. -Sean
we got any confirmation on plastic kits replacing old non plastic stuff?
No confirmation, just a hope and a pray -Sean
I wish more for plastic kits replacing old plastic kits😅. Most of the metal models still look good. Not like warriors of the last alliance for example
At the very least I’d expect new plastic arnor warriors, purely as the knights will need updated dismounts. -Alex
No more hobbits stunning Dain! 😉 Thank god! 🥳😂
Praise the lord. -Sean
Unless they add it as a special rule on the Shirriff profile. I think they’ll at least add whirl or something similar to profiles that have whips.
Nah nah hobbits stunning Dain is a necessary evil. Thanks again for the game at Ardacon mate! -Alex
@@ajcolasante The pleasure was all mine! Now i know that coming over to Australia is a must!
To see me of course 🥰 -Sean
If troops have Fight nudged up, how does that affect heroes? Seems as though some of them could be straight-up with Uruk-Hai. (Yes, dice differences.)
If fight value is affecting herpes you might wanna see a doctor not ask some dudes on UA-cam 🤣🤣 Nah heroes and troops alike will get nudged up.they will spread the love to all. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming. 😱 🤣
You think they will drop gully?
He'll be added to either legacies or the 3rd book armies of middle earth. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming. that distinction is prob gonna be based on a model's coolness/popularity rather than "movie presence" so I bet Gully is gonna be in the Armies of ME pile (Black Nums too)
I’m hoping that with him returning to the range, it’s a good sign for him being included in the armies of middle earth book 🤞
The article says the new Angmar and Arnor stuff will be in the armies of middle earth book not legacy.
Yeah we misinterpreted them as being the same thing -sean
I hope the Easterlings don't lose anything to legends/legacy
At most it'll be the war drakes. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming.All named heroes go to the middle earth book?
@@MountainGoatGaming. I can live with this honestly. Now time to worry about what Moria and Mordor will lose haha!
I’m a new comer to actually playing, but I’m hooked it’s my jam. I was so bummed when they announced the new edition and i thought here I go again (as I’ve invested into kill team over the last 12 months and that’s looking sad for the armies I have). But after reading the email this morning I’m pumped it sounds positive and sounds like Jay is looking after us all.
Jay and the specialist team contrary to what all the negative Nancy's say has MESBG best interest at heart. Of course GW is a business so there are elements to that aswell that he has to work with. But this new edition will be amazing -Sean
It definitely feels like the new edition was supposed to be mid 2025 but the license holder wanted a new update with the War in Rohan stuff to release in line with the movie
I'm more than confident that's what's happened. -sean
I’m in the boat of worried about less variety
The timing of this new edition is crazy for me because I have only started to properly collect some armies to try and play the game (I've had some models since the late 2000s but never actually played the game). Now that I'm finally getting into it and have learned all the rules and strategies from guys like you, they go and change to a new edition 😂 thank god I haven't gotten around to buying the books yet
funny I have the same story
I have also just started buyed the osgiliath starter set, All the battlehost, the two army Books, defender in the north and now i can use the same amount of money again on New rulebook, starter set and army Books. "Feelsweirdman" and I dont know how i feel about taking All speciel strikes away. It takes a lot of the combat learning scal away, but makes the model tactical varity away (it needed af rework, not a removel. imo)
There won't be big changes in the core ruels, so that should not be a bigger problem
Games gonna be basically the same as what you have been learning recently. Yeah it sucks that all the books are gonna be made redundant but that is how the cookie crumbles, this edition has been around for 6+ years. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming. I know the game has been out 6 years, the timing is just bad luck and because of No news, only 3 month before the 3 core book is useless. It is after all over 1200 danish crowns wasted on Books alone. I still dont know if i can take shields on My commanders sets now, because we Are waiting on New rules. Dont get me wrong i love that is it still active, i love updates, i just hate that you feel you Are wasring money on Books i have to bin, after 1 month on My shelf.
Yo! You mad lads!
We crazy like this -Sean
Cool new format for a video! This is a list I've got almost all the models but ended up going the hammerhand route. Little question, can you do a heroic combat with theodred and retreat away into a safer position?
Sadly that isn't something he can do. If he is able to charge then he must charge. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming. Man really does have a death wish 😭
Personally I hope they move away from the smaller warband games and open up larger battles. I wanna return to the days of 2000 point Hordes.
The one reason i don't like army of gothmog is that you can do it better with Regular Mordor. Everything of the Legion bonus is on Gothmog. And if you don't fight a men army, you don't really get anything other that gothmog is legendary and heros benefit from his standfast. With regular Mordor you get the Mordor Army bonus that is quite good(as long you habe the numbers). And you can have more diffrent heros like Kadush or Gorbag. Also you still have Hatred Men in 3" of Gothmog. That "time of the orc has come" is 12" is enough.
You guys are hilarious! Listened to this one while painting up some wood elves and I made a few errors from laughing while painting. Looking forward to hearing about more LL’s
Glad you had a giggle. -Sean
Loving this series. Any chance of a video on how to git gud with hobbits? We know Alex knows a lot about the Defenders legion, but it would be cool also to talk about how to ally them (Tyler's Radagast and LoL list anyone?) and how to use them with Gandalf/Rangers.
We have a video like this coming out in the next few weeks talking with Sean K about the hobbit LL. Sean is well versed in hobbit play, having played them for many years, even winning the Australian Games work MESBG championship with them at 1000pts. We will definitely in the future talk with Tyler about his funky hobby list. -Sean
@@MountainGoatGaming. Love it!
Yeah definitely need a return of the king one, got a tourney coming up with that one 😂
We endeavour to do one, though not likely to happen before your tournament sadly. -Sean
I reckon Shadow of Rhudaur may just have the shade special rule of reducing dice rolls in the duel. I think fight value and defence will be revamped - lots of complaints around lake town militia with the same defence as numernorean soldiers. Hoping Aragorn and Gandalf the white get some love and better represent the powerhouses they are in the stories. Interested to see updates to monsters, some fun ideas on other comments. And imagine there’ll be a tonne of new special rules based which will be cool.
Really enjoyed this one. I've been thinking of getting into Rohan and been tossing up between Theodreds LL, or an Eorl list.
I love an Erol list so much. That's what I would do but damn arnt both lists just amazing -Sean
Great video! What might a 400 point list look like?
Thanks for the love. In regards to a 400pt list I believe Ian talks about removing one of the war bands in the list he presented to make it work at 400pts. -Sean
I've run it at 500 points, Theodred, Elfhelm, all Warriors Royal Guard with spears on foot. For 600 take Grimbold and a full warband of axe warriors.
Good deep dive!
Thank mate. We hope to get in to more of these ASAP. -Sean
A lovely topic that is worth discussing in our Australian Meta, one that I've been finding a good amount of success doing in NSW lately, Turning the tide against an opponent that outshoots you.
Australian META so incredibly hard to talk about. It differs from state to state and each tournament, sometimes even each gaming group has a different 'Meta' the lists that show up are always changing. The 'top tier players' always run different lists and different play styles as well which really makes it hard to nail down a meta. In the UK and Europe the 'best players' use the same list all year if not for longer and the players looking to move from middle of the pack to the top, copy those lists and game play styles. -Sean
One thing they should change is to make models with monster charge not able to knock down models with a bigger Base. For examle a problem with the bears is that have monster charge with Str. 8. With str. 8 you can knock down Dragons and Gundabad Trolls....
That's such a good idea. Rate that base sizes come into play. -Sean
great deep dive I would love to see one on The Turn of The King, and The Men of The West
Keep your eyes peeled mate. -Sean