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School Psyched Podcast
Приєднався 7 вер 2014
School Psyched Podcast: A discussion regarding school psychology
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My Mensa IQ was in the 'High Average' range. This is about the basic level needed to do a bachelor's degree. I was placed in remedial sets at school. But even if I was exceptionally gifted and very academically succesful, I would prefer be happy than be a genius!
You lost me when you said teachers should practice “skunkworks,” play and try things out, and if it doesn’t work, “no one gets hurt.” No one except the students who are subjected to the bombed experiments.
Hi, I don't think this was addressed - but when will Spanish translations be available? Also, how quickly do templates of new editions of assessments typically become available?
Hey there, these will be available within 2 weeks. New templates become available as they are requested (usually within a week after the request for new versions of an assessment already on the site)
Naval gazing😮😅
Again, it is not even arguable. This is risible. The face-heart connection is not a speculation but a neuroanatomical and neurophysiological fact of linkage both phylogenetically in our transition to mammals around 220 million years ago but proven ontologically in mammalian embryology. Cranial nerves V, VII, IX, X and XI which are neuroanatomically and physiologically linked with the two myelinated visceromotor pathways, sinoatrial node and bronchi. Together they form the newer or mammalian vagus, cardioinhibitory neurons which migrated around 220 million years ago from the older solitary track of the dorsal motor nucleus and formed the nucleus ambiguous. These are not inventions but long well established facts. The newer myelinated vagus, cardioinhibitory neurons migrating to the nucleus ambiguous (emerging from primitive gill arches) and forming in mammals neuronal head, face, heart connections has a distinct respiratory sinus arrhythmia (RSA) which is a measure cardiac vagal tone as distinct from the older dorsal vagal nerve, sub-diaphragmatic functioning found reptiles.
My view of conceptual understanding is the ability of far transfer-the ability to identify areas to which your content is relevant, and use it to solve problems. I learned math in the old school way, and I studied quantitative analysis in my accounting training. QA involved application of math concepts to solve problems in finance and business. While studying QA, I became aware of conceptual understanding and its televance in transfer of learning to problem solving.. One day I was explaining my predicament to an instructor, telling him, that i seem to know and understand procedure, but I am unable to apply it. He then explained to me that when you see a question, identify the content area, and over time you will learn to use your theoretical knowledge in solving problems. I remember we were doing business statistics, and we had a case study and he asked what we think was required based on the scenario presented? He singled out all the data that was included in the question, and related it to what we had already learned. The question involved making predictions about a population based on a sample. He pointed out that the requirements should direct our minds to significance testing, and since we had been given a sample size of 30 and over, we could use that sample to make predictions about the population. After that explanation, I started to understand how the basic knowledge opens the door for higher level thinking, and problem solving. But educationists expect that once you have knowledge -if there is conceptual understanding- that you can use that knowledge for problem solving. It does not happen like that. You have to own that knowledge - it must not be superficial, and examples must be presented of how that knowledge can be used, and based on your developmental level your knowledge moves from being inert to being usable. I have seen students in grade 5 given a superficial explanation of probability, and shortly after assessed using questions that requires a deep understanding of probability, that their instructions could not have provided.
Excelente propuesta, me encanta. Estoy terminando mi tesis de máster basándome en ACT hexaflex y llevando a cabo la revisión bibliográfica me he encontrado con esta propuesta en términos de cambiar los nombres para hacerlos más sencillos de entender para los pequeños. Gracias
Thanks! Very helpful!
There are no blinds spots as you assert. Steve derived the theory by first studying heart rate variability and specifically respiratory sinus arrhythmia (RSA), which is a measurement cardiac vagal tone in mammals exclusively in the nucleus ambiguous, the source nuclei of the ventral vagus. He attempted to solve the paradox of why high vagal tone in healthy newborns is a predicative indicator of healthy babies and YET why high vagal tone in prematurity, esp prior to 28 weeks often leads to apneas and worse case sudden death, neurogenic bradycardia. Steve discovered that there were two distinct parasympathetic vagus pathways. An unmyelinated older dorsal nucleus (visceral organ homeostasis) and a newer myelinated ventral vagus which emerged with mammals and became coordinated, neuronally interlinked with five cranial nerves that connect head, face and larynx/pharynx (swallowing, sucking breathing and vocalization) with two visceromotor pathways to bronchi and sinoatrial node (heart). Hence a uniquely mammalian face-heart connection. There are Zero blind spots. This is non controversial.
The basis of the theory is not speculative but rather the foundations of the theory is derived from actual well-established science in neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, neuroendocrinogy, embryology
“Cortisol is not really related to the Polyvagal Theory.” Really? Then you do not know the theory with respect to the bi-directional connections between cortical and subcortical into the ANS. The higher brain structures, mid brain.. central nucleus of the Amygdala, periacqueductal grey, insular; LHPA axis, etc and the bi directional interneuronal communication.
At the core of good therapy is the relationship between therapist and client. The therapist must create safety for the client so that coregulation can occur. Dr Porges says this again and again. Skilled coregulation frameworks set up by the therapist can lead to the client adjusting their dysregulation.
Dr Pearl does a very poor job of advising these psychologists. I've just come out of 5 years of EMDR therapy underwritten by the all the notions arising out of polyvagal theory. My psychologist never uttered the expression polyvagal theory once but she practised coregulation a lot with me and inserted the idea of being safe many times. I now understand now that I have a brain injury from severe psychological trauma sustained during multiple events when 4 years old. I now understand the extent of my Complex PTSD. The vagus nerve merely carries information. Don't get too hung up on the expression polyvagal theory when doing school psychology.
With all due respect, he actually severely misleads as he really does not understand the theory derived from actual science. Secondly, the vagus is not merely as a passive carrier of information, quite the opposite.
The vagus is merely a conduit. It carries informati
Thank you all for this good discussion. Next time will make sure to check the schedule and not conflict with you all!
I'm hopeful to watch your discussion as well! @EricElias said it was a great one. So sorry for the conflict in timing!
Very good convo here.
Wow, that’s gonna scare a lot of people lol.
Hi everyone! Watching the replay. Looking forward to hearing fresh perspectives.
always love these! you all make a big impact!!
you all have been so helpful! thanks for the podcasts
Florida's curriculum definitely includes weekly explicit vocabulary instruction, at least in elementary school, starting with ten words and increasing the number by grade. But that's part of why some students are referred. They don't do well with that task. They didn't learn the world and pass the weekly quizzes.
“We have been focused on the reaction measures in our field that we forgot an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of care. Why aren’t we focused on preventative measures?” - Dr. McClure
Great discussion as usual
One more comment and I will stop. “There is no afferent connection to the face from the vagal nerve. Afferent is when you are going outward from the face.” That is just plain wrong. Where are you getting your science. In fact who are you?! You mean afferent and efferent connections, moreover, special visceral efferent cranial nerves which phylogenetically formed from the ancient gill arches eventually into the mammalian ventral vagus complex (as the cardioinhibitory neurons migrated from the dorsal motor nucleus to ventral). The five cranial nerves (X, XII, IX. X and XI) and two visceromotor pathways (bronchi and sinoatrial node of the heart. This is known as the face-heart connection. You want the science behind it, eh? It’s called Embryology. Very premature infants who are born earlier than 28 weeks are born without a fully working ventral vagal complex (suck, swallow, breathe and vocalization) and the concomitant capacity to be calmed and down regulated by the mother(functions of ventral vagus complex) are not working. RSA (a measurement of cardiac tone, heart rate variability with spontaneous breathing under different shifting autonomic-environmental challenges) which occurs only in the nucleus ambiguus/ventral vagus is not present (undeveloped). As a result the risk of apnea or neurogenic bradycardia (baby stops breathing). There are direct inter neuronal connections between the vagus and the central nervous system (central nucleus of the amygdala, LHPA axis, periacqueductal gray, etc.) or corticobulbar and corticoreticular (brain stem). Again, in conjunction with evolution and study of mammalian embryology we are talking about the phylogenetic transition of the dorsal motor nucleus from a-social reptiles to a ventral vagal complex in mammals. RSA a measure of cardiac vagal tone is exclusively in the nucleus ambiguus (the mammalian ventral vagus).
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Polyvagal is rich people cult voodoo nonsense. It's as valid as the pseudo science of psychology
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I’m really glad I took the time to watch this podcast! I am a newer subscriber to SP AI on FB and fascinated by the possibilities posed by Sophia! Dr. McClure, you are a well-spoken practitioner and I look forward to learning more about what you have to teach us! Our profession is under attack by unreasonable administrative demands and expectations, specifically related to report writing. It’s time we find ways to level the playing field, (in addition to advocating at the state and federal level for legislative changes) and AI may be THE way! Thank you for sharing your vision and research as we continue to do what is right for our students by increasing our time spent in the classrooms! Happy New Year!🎊
When children (or anyone) presents with many gut problems (esp. inflammation) what we are looking at is the parasympathetic dorsal vagus that is prominent.
The direct connection (practicality of understanding and application) is the understanding of physiological shifts (ventral vagus/safety, sympathetic adrenal-arousal defense, fight/flight or dorsal vagal, withdrawal/shutdown, dissociation and/or immobilization). In other words, the disabusing of the severely misguided notion (systemic historical paradigm) of willful behavior or operant conditioning of a child's behavior (i.e., stimulus/response) to the intervening variable between the S and R which is our autonomic nervous system. So in that process getting rid of explicit or implicit shame and blame, i.e. "If a child just tries hard enough" or is given the proper reinforcement. The latter is a complete farce.
Let’s turn to RSA (respiratory sinus arrhythmia) it is 100% supported by science. What our dear Sir is alluding to is the straw man argument made against RSA by others with cardiorespiratory coupling which is present in all creatures. RSA is a specific function of the mammalian ventral vagus, nucleus ambiguous. It is a measurement, index of cardiac vagal tone of the neuroanatomically linked and coordinated branchiomotor inter neurons of the strained muscles of the face, neck and head (cranial nerves X XII, IX, X, XI) and the directly visceromotor myelinated pathways, two, cardiac pacemaker of the heart and bronchi; hence the face-heart connection unique to mammals; It is also a measurement of vagal efficiency of this breathe-suck-swallow-vocalize and social engagement system.
No. There is evidence of some preganglionic myelinated fibers in some fish, however they are not the cardioventral inhibitory fibers that originate in the Mammalian ventral vagus located in the nucleus ambiguous and that form the mammalian ventral vagal complex connected to the striated muscles of ace, neck and head and recurrent laryngeal nerve which in mammals is specifically suck, swallow, breathe vocalize and during the first 6 months in humans (all mammals) developing into social emotional cuing/engagement, co-regulated social engagement
Wow!!! “Afferent connection means that you are going away from the brain.” NO!!!! efferent connections are the motor fibers leaving from the brain stem. Afferent connection are the interoceptive signals from the vagus pathways coming from the body into the brain stem.
No, you have it backwards. Regulation requires co-regulation .
Again, yes there is indisputably the face-heart anatomical connection. Cranial nerves, V, VII, IX, X and XI connected with two visceromotor pathways, sinoatrial node and the bronchi. Thus the face-heart interneuronal, neuroanatomically linked and coordinated with X , the vagus nerve. This is most borne out of you will in our study of embryology.
There is an indisputable and unequivocal ton of evidence , based upon comparative neuroanatomy, neurophysiology and mammalian embryology of a phylogenetic hierarchy, from endocrine communication of chromaffin tissue with large circulating catecholamines (epinephrine) in the primitive veterinary heart, to a formed dorsal vagal nucleus with unmyelinated nerve pathways (HPA axis) and alongside a sympathetic-adrenal nervous system and then our newer mammalian ventral vagus complex in the nucleus ambiguous. This basic core science. In the context of adaptive hierarchy of Polyvagal theory with respect to the forgoing o er 15,000 peer reviewed articles.
Polyvagal theory does address “fear conditioning” or shall we more accurately phrase, an autonomic nervous system under “chronic states of threat.” The latter being.an adaptive response of our phylogenetic hierarchy. Our ventral vagal complex or our social engagement system is adaptive; our sympathetic-adrenal system is adaptive and our dorsal vagal complex or our ancient primitive older parasympathetic nervous system a shut down or passing out, feinting, vasovagal syncope or immobilization under perceived life threat is adaptive.
I have a clubhouse for educational diagnosticians in Texas. I’d love to collaborate with you all. I’ve interviewed many of the same people as you have.. this is a great resource.
I'm all on board with polyvagal nonsense being a myth, because it IS. But its also a myth that the amygdala can be "hijacked."And it is also a myth that the amygdala is anything but part of the predictive architecture of the brain. We dont "detect" anything in the world except information that contradicts our top down predictions relevant to our models of the world, so appreciate that there is push back on the polyvagal garbage here, but there is also a good bit of reactive brain garbage being broadcast here, and thats too bad.
I'm looking forward to seeing Dr. McGill at NASP! Can you please link the article in the description?
Sophia has been a great tool for me! Thank you.
Dear Rachel, Polyvagal Theory is NOT pop psychology. It has been cited in over 10,000 peer reviewed articles. Before you make such vapid assertions, please read the actual theory and corroborating, supporting science behind it!
The cognitive dissonance is deep I see. PVT is simply a belief system. Just go to Google scholar and see how many times porges is cited.
@@reneverlaine7346 You are an ….. Steve is actually brilliant. He doesn’t need mine or any defending. Please spare us your Wikipedia and Google scholar brilliant stupidity. There is actually 10-15,000 citations in peer reviewed articles over three decades. Our Phylogenetic transition from a social reptiles to social mammals; and moreover from endocrine communication in invertebrates to a fully formed unmyelinated dorsal vagus and a sympathetic nervous system to a supradiaphragmatic ventral myelinated vagus; neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, neurocardiology and embryology are not belief systems. They are established foundational science. Darwin, Claude Bernard, Hugh Jackson and Walter Hess are not part and parcel of just-so belief systems. The latter is part of the historical foundational science which informs Polyvagal Theory. If you would like to have an intelligent conversation about the cardioinhibitory neurons migrating from the dorsal motor nucleus (solitary tract) to the nucleus ambiguous and the neuroanatomical linkage and coordination with cranial nerves V, VII, IX, X and XI that directly connect with two visceromotor myelinated pathways, one to the sinoatrial node of the heart and the other the bronchi thus together forming a mammalian ventral vagal complex and furthermore as an index measure of cardiac vagal tone in terms of RSA (respiratory sinus arrhythmia) which is exclusively part of the ventral vagus do let me know.
There is not any evidence of the amygdala having more connections with the face in contrast to the ventral vagus nerve which is neuroanatomically linked and coordination with 5 cranial nerves (V, VIi, IX, X, XI). Why? Basically, it is a moot distinction, as they are inter-neuronally linked (ascending and descending or upper and lower neurons). Afferents and efferents. Bi-directional (corticobulbar and cortico-reticular). However, you are missing an important neuroanatomical and neurophysiological fact. The face-heart connection is not merely a trope . Those five cranial nerves (visceral efferents) which developed in conjunction with the nucleus ambiguus forming the ventral vagal complex, connected with two myelinated visceromotor pathways, sinoatrial node and bronchi This is the newer parasympathetic uniquely mammalian branch.
Actually there are no, “reasonable objections to it.” The primary critics are the perennially frustrated curmudgeons , Paul Grossman and Taylor. Essentially, they assert false premise about what theory is saying then use that to disproven it (strawman arguments, without any merit to the actual scientific theory and its applications.
It does have scientific backing. It is cited in over 10,000 peer reviewed articles Of course there is scientific evidence with respect to our transition from asocial reptile to mammals. Mammals have a unique myelinated ventral vagal nerve that originated in the nucleus ambiguous in contrast to all other vertebrates in the dorsal nucleus. This was neuroanatomically linked and coordinated in our phylogenetic transition with five cranial nerves (trigeminal, facial, glossopharyngeal, vagus, and accessory/head turning). and two visceromotor pathways, sinoatrial node of the heart and bronchi. This forms the ventral vagal complex or our social-emotional engagement system unique to mammals.
No, Polyvagal theory with respect to a phylogenetic ordered hierarchy in accordance to the Jacksonian principles of dissolution is entirely new, as the newer parasympathetic ventral vagal complex was never explored. Instead all theories were about sympathetic vs. parasympathetic as merely a balance system.
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Dr.porges is a genius. Who are these people?
Who knows but they are entertaining in mostly and quite adeptly demonstrating what they don’t know.
Porges is what? 😂. Who are you?
I heard “school refusal.” Can we do a talk on your channel about school refusal? Live your channel!!!
your guest was an abomination of ignorance and arrogance.