I will only comment on the knot. In Canada it was an American style knot. Proceedings governing capital punishment in Australia varied depending where you were in the country but it wasn't a copy of British methods
It’s interesting how one of the journalists talks about the hanging as being such a callous act with tears in his eyes. So was Ryan’s coldblooded murder! Ronald Ryan was not an innocent man, despite his protests of innocence. Four people testified under oath that Ryan was the man who fired the fatal shot. Ryan made a conscious decision to hang by choosing to murder in the first place. Ryan made a conscious choice to aim that gun and pull that trigger. His victim didn‘t have any choice in the matter at all!
This guy, no matter if he pulled the trigger or not was responsible for the death of 2 people, but not a word about these men or the devastation caused to their families. In this documentary, it's RON this and RON that, he took a father and husband away from their loved ones so fuck him. But this is the way of the world now, fuck the victim, just make sure the perpetrator gets a nice cup of tea.
I have no idea of how Capital Punishment by hanging was carried out in Australia, but I do know the entire process as was done in the UK. I would have thought that Australia would have used something very similar to the UK since it was, and has been a British Colony for 200 years. No docu-drama ever portrays an event with accuracy, especially in the case of a State Execution which precise processes were not normally available for public knowledge or scrutiny; Such things usually come under the Official Secrets Act, and I presume this would also have applied in Australia. As far as the above drama itself is concerned, there is no resemblance whatsoever to any State Execution as was performed in the UK. In the first place, the use of a Western-style rope would never be used, for several reasons. In Britain, the rope end had a metal eye through which the rope was threaded to make a loop, and which allowed the rope to slip freely. Once the noose was placed over the condemned's head, the "eye" was placed under the left jawbone, and held in place by a rubber ring. The drama shows a long length of rope draped over a guard rail - this is extremely unlikely to have ever been the case, because the evening prior to the date of execution, a sandbag matching the victim's weight would have been attached to the noose and dropped the predetermined, calculated drop distance in order to stretch the rope, the purpose of this was to prevent any further stretching that would alter the calculation, and any spring-back. Left overnight, the executioner and his assistant would remove the sandbag and lightly tie the rope to the level of the victim's neck.To do it as shown in the video, would be an absolute disaster as there is too much loose rope; when dropped by such means, the victim is more likely to fall any which way, causing untold amount of damage before possibly being strangled. By the means of the way rope is twisted in its manufacture, it will automatically slip to the right and stop under the point of the chin, which would force the head sharply back, breaking the neck at the third vertibrae. Instant death. On the scaffold, it is normal practice for two guards to hold the prisoner - one on either side - to prevent his moving from the central spot and the possibility of hitting the trap doors during the drop. Under the British process, from the time the officials entered the cell to the actual moment of the trap doors being released, averaged 10-12 seconds. The shortest time ever recorded was less than eight seconds, the longest some 21-22 seconds. If the above video is to be believed, the average time appears to be around five or more MINUTES! There is so much about the above video that is wrong, and could only have come from someone's fanciful imagination, for the longer the condemned is compelled to stand around, the more nervous and animated he/she will become, and the more chance of something going wrong. Under the British method, the victim does not have the time nor opportunity to think, never mind anything else, as he is simply quick-marched from his cell - which is right next door to the traps (imagine adjoining bedrooms with a single door between), placed on the centre point, hands and legs quickly strapped by the executioner and his assistant, the noose and hood slipped over the head the and the lever pulled - it's as quick as that! I really cannot imagine the Australian method being very much different, but certainly not in any way as portrayed above.
In December 2011 I visited the old Melbourne gaol which was where hangings were conducted in the state of Victoria until it closed in the 1930s, after which Pentridge Prison, where Ryan was hanged, was opened. The gallows was only a few short metres from the condemned cell, but it was different to the British system: it was not a secret chamber at the back of the condemned cell but right outside the only door to the condemned's cell and there was also a row of other cells, on this, the same 2nd floor. I do not know if the rope was tested elsewhere so as not to un-nerve the condemned, but I don't see how they could have set it up for the actual job without him being aware of it. I have read accounts of an execution in 1922 of a man who was proven innocent 86 years later, 30 year old Colin Campbell Ross. Ross read a short statement from a piece of paper he had written on while standing on the gallows before the hood was placed over his head - apparently this was the practice, in Victoria at least, other states I do not know. Another case in 1936 that I read about, a man who never claimed to be innocent, was asked on the scaffold if he wished to make a short verbal statement, but he declined. I do not know what the layout was in Pentridge but I assume the execution chamber was also right outside the condemned's cell. Ryan's last recorded words were in fact to the executioner "God bless you and please make it quick." A small contingent of the press were allowed to witness the execution. So it seems that while the Australian system was more imperfect than the British one, it was probably still heaps better than the American way.
@@Bernie8330 Very interesting, although thinking about it, I shouldn't be that surprised at the Aussies taking a different approach, for the Brits were quite pedantic about the "niceties." As shown in many old-time graphics, the original ideas in Britain were very basic: A simple broad stake in a grassy verge, with a single cross-tree and any old bit of rope was common practice. In early Victorian times that practice was outlawed in favour of a public hanging at a prison - with some semblance of decorum! By the mid-late 1800's, a whole series of botched hangings brought forth some "thinking" hangmen who began using some crude mathematics and science re weight, build and drop lengths required, but it was generally a slow learning process, right up the early 20th Century. It was Britain's Chief Hangman, Albert Pierrepoint, following in the footsteps of his family "trade" in hangings, that perfected the art and science, bringing a whole new approach to the processes. The basic idea of hangings had always been strangulation, where the condemned person struggled for much too long - in some cases for longer than 20 minutes. It was horrific for all concerned. and so the idea of breaking the neck was quick, clean and humane. A noose that didn't continue to tighten - like the Western-style - was re-invented, and no longer tightened or gave a neck burn. The process of a speedy transfer from cell to scaffold was tried and tested, but now with a hangman and assistant who could march the prisoner to the spot, strap his legs, fit the head cover, slip the noose and hit the drop lever, all within seconds. and all carried out in front of legal witnesses. The differences at Nuremburg between the American and British methods was stark. Pierrepoint hung hundreds quickly and cleanly, but the majority of those hung by the Americans, were strangled slowly, with some of their victims having their heads banged in the drop. Very unsavoury indeed. Even today in the USA, State Executions are often bungled, with both the electric chair and lethal injection; even in itself, the chair was and is a most barbaric and inhumane form of execution - worse than placing a live chicken in a microwave!! Anyone (I suspect most of us at some time) having suffered an electric shock, knows what it feels like and would never want that experience again!
@@charlieindigo I love the 2005 Pierrepoint movie starting Timothy Spalt. It was unique in that it was not telling the story of Timothy Evans, Derek Bentley or Ruth Ellis et el - they all have their stories told in other movies about them individually. This movie was about the life and career of the man who actually hanged them, a role that any pro capital punishment person would surely take for granted.
@@Bernie8330 I saw that particular movie some time ago, and although I can't quite remember it fully, I recall thinking that there were some inaccuries (which I won't go into here). As with all docu-dramas, there are elements of imagination used, along with incidents arranged for the viewer. An example of this occurs in the scene of the shooting of the prison officer. No-one knows the situation, who was standing or facing where. The precise details - as far as I can tell - were never revealed for those reasons, so one has to accept or reject what the fim shows. As far as the UK is concerned, very strict rules apply to Crown employees, who must comply with the Official Secrets Act. Under no circumstances are they allowed to relate what takes place in the course of certain duties. This applies to Prison staffs, and especially to those who share (guard) a prisoner's last days and hours in a condemned cell. As it happens, my father was present at two of the remaining State Executions in the UK, right up to the moment of execution. In both instances the condemned men made an official request that he be their escort to the gallows, such was his attitude, demeanor and humanity to both men. Very, very few people - and almost certainly none alive today - can tell anything of what took place during those last days and hours. As a police officer at the time, I was privileged to gain that knowledge from my father, so I am probably one of the only people around that can tell precisely what their role was and what took place. From that point of fact, no television documentary, film or book has ever managed to set the scene with any degree of accuracy, or indeed, come anywhere close! Those events took place nearly 60 years ago, and it may be that my documented history may at some point be published - I have not yet decided!!
@@charlieindigo I have scene a youtube video which shows Pierrepoint providing information to a royal commission into capital punishment. I wonder if the makers of the aforementioned film about him based their depiction of the executions he performed on this. Yes, there are some inaccuracies in the film, the most obvious being the ones surrounding the hanging of Dorethea Waddingham: the film depicts it as taking place during the war, whereas it was actually 1936 and also Pierrepoint wasn't the chief hangman at it but was rather assistant to his own uncle.
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There is the electric chair, there is the gas chamber, there is the bullet(s), and so on. But the measured drop from the gallows seems to me the best, most humane way.
@@johannesslobbe6854 - So if your father was terminally ill and hospitalized and in horrible pain and begging to be put out of his misery you would ask the hospital staff to hang him instead of using medication to end his life?
@@Marcfj In the UK, anything along those lines would be regarded as an Unlawful act. No doctor, hospital or any other person is permitted to end anyon'es life, no matter how much they are in pain. All that is allowed is palliative care, or if the patient wills it, DNR - Do Not Resuscitate. If the patient is deemed too unfit (mentally or otherwise not in control of his/her mental faculties) then the next-of-kin, and even the doctors/or under doctor's recommendation, can follow the DNR Guidelines. So your comment is simply ridiculous.
I am in shock. This is about as far removed from what I had expected from a Don Rickles special as anything I could have imagined. I watched in disbelief as it progressed. Whoever thought up this format and these sketches must have been trying to sabotage Rickles' career, and I am surprised that Rickles consented to do it.
@@davidames1746 Are you saying that anything that defies one's expectations is therefore good, simply by virtue of that fact? There is no logic whatsoever in that statement.
Well very nice, but I do not see anyone crying for the death warden, George hodson, if I am right was his name. If the warden was married or has children, no one gave a sh.. But still in our time with DNA it's very easy to understand , and for killers or murderers by purpose, and especially by mass murderer, I want the death penalty!!
@@YortOK : that's exactly what I have said, because in the documentary and in the movie the murderer was characterised like a SAINT. Even the priest was almost crying when he was speaking about the execution! In the country I am living for the last 40 years, one person killed 13 people (13 families destroyed) he got life sentences, but aftera few years in jail, because the law stipulates it, he was able to take every year three or four times vacation, but since he was not stupid one day he didn't return to jail, and that for a few years. Anyway after they catches him again, and now the problem is , he can take vacation or not!!!!! His name is known by most of the people in his country, but how many he killed , or what nationality the where, married, children, ? Nobody knows or even cares about!!!! On the other side just think how much he has cost until now to the state, or the taxpayer, and he is not the only one!! When on the other side the state has no money for pensions, healthcare, or education!!!
I'm sorry to upset anyone but if you take a life you owe a life. It is with the understanding you have ended the days of someone else and there is no coming back and yet not only have you destroyed the life of the person murdered you have destroyed the lives of those around that person ( thinking only of the self). Deterrent are not the death penalty should be the ultimate sacrifice you will pay for taking someone's life period.
I understand a victims need for revenge. But, the judicial process is not perfect. Prosecutors may have political motives, police may be corrupt, or inept. Public outcry may demand a target at all costs. It has been proven many times that absolutely innocent people are convicted and sentence to death. If the State kills the innocent, the State has committed murder.
If there is an admission of guilt, the admission will be used to fold the proof around. Any judge or jury would be advised to always ignore the admission and pick the proof apart.
all these do gooders and leftwing loons whining about the rights of murders, well what about the rights of their victims ??? stuff the rights if murders and hanging them should return to our justice system
The victims cannot speak. For those without a doubt of their guilt, put them to death. Those who have been wrongfully accused, there are plenty of appeals, and stays of executions. It takes a lifetime to administer justice in the US. That should be enough to prove innocence or guilt. With DNA now the backbone of defense, I highly doubt the innocence of those who receive the death penalty today. If there is doubt, like I said, they got decades to prove their innocence.
Who cares if a murderer dies a painful death? You bleeding hearts are pitiful. You spend all your time talking about wrongful deaths but never mention the murders that these ppl have committed? Wrongful death today with DNA is near impossible wouldn’t you agree. After all it is DNA that exonerates those who, you say were wrongfully convicted. When are you ppl gonna hang that argument on the wall and instead seek justice for the victims?
@@toddandangelbrowning2920 There still is a lot of doubt if DNA is used as it must be done. Even if the DNA in a case is 100% there are still possibilities to "play".
Monumental travesties of justice have often occurred as bent fuzz plant evidence to get a conviction at any cost. And if governments don't get the result they want, they dismiss the investigating team, over and over again, until they get a conviction via bought-out "experts" and conscience-less officials. Like Dave Littlewood below, I would want to see the death penalty exacted for rape/murder, violent kidnapping with severe injury to the victim, and any murder committed in the presence of many witnesses. But I cannot support death if based on evidence of circumstance alone. And if a cop is proven to have planted evidence which if believed, would result in an innocent man's hanging, then that cop will hang. Period. And if imprisonment rather than hanging, the cop will be thrown in klink too, without special protection.
Dignity and respect? Bullshit. This beast should have been hanged so his neck didn't break, and hanged over a hog pen. When he died, they should have cut the rope and let the hogs eat him, and it should have been done publicly. The people in Australia has even surrendered most of their guns now, and as this video shows, they've become a nation of pussies. You know a nation has become evil, soft, weak, and sissified when it wants murderers to have dignity and respect, when it stops executing beasts, and starts treating them like model citizens. Hang them high, hang them fast, and hang them publicly. It won't stop all murders, but it will certainly stop some of them, and taxpayers won't have to support the dirty son of a bitch for the next thirty or forty years. More, such executions are done to give the family of the victim a bit more peace of mind, and it works. Nothing is as evil as knowing your loved one is dead, and the animal that killed him or her is still alive, and being clothed and fed and given medical care with your money. So there are very, very good reasons to execute such animals other than discouraging others not to commit such crimes. On top of all these reasons, animals like this are a waste of good air, water, and food.
The death penalty is far older than the Bible. It is done as punishment for a crime, it is done to discourage others from committing such c imes, and perhapos most important, it is done to give those who loved the victim the peace of mind that comes from knowing the murderer is dead, just like the victim, and won't be supported for the rest of his natural life with your money.
It is is just too sick the murderer ends up with the support of the general public and the victims along with the victim's family are more or less forgotten .
Far far to many innocents have been executed to think the death penalty is ethical, one is to many but there have been hundreds . I do think some cases merit the death penalty, people like Brady and war criminals where the evidence is 100 % sound . I would if it was up to me get rid of diplomatic immunity apart from misdemeanors and I would place greater emphasis on punishment for murder ,manslaughter and life changing injuries as opposed to the theft of money where it seems the sentence is greater especially if your poor.
Allow me to say that the girls that murdered Sharon Tate and her baby ,I would put a rope around their neck's.Paul Bernardo and the way he kidnapped and murdered , his 2 girl victims . These are just 2 cases , people turn the killers into victims .
Don't be a dumbass. This was a "man" who committed murder, who took a life and destroyed everyone the dead officer loved, and who loved him. The executioner was a man doing his duty, a good man, and releasing information about him would be evil,
@@jamesaritchie1 Yep, the only reason Albert Pierrepoint became known and famous in Britain was to give the country a morale boost after the second world war, as he had been sent to Germany to hang some 200 Nazi war criminals. Pierrepoint himself resented his new public profile and believed very strongly in the clandestine way it had always previously been done.
Death penalty is the most disgusting, barbarian and brutal murder that exists. There is no justification whatsoever to commit it. They kill a completely defenceless human being which by being incarcerated won’t be able to cause any further harm. Nobody is allowed to take a life.
Unless your gonna build a prison for these animals where they can absolutely never get there hands on another human being! Then you have to put these animals down , I’m not saying this guy did it , the evidence was pretty weak , but the majority are complete animals, I saw a documentary on this one prisoner that got life instead of death because although the bite marks on this mutilated woman were very close , the jury wouldn’t give the death penalty on the guy , so he gets life , 15 years in he’s. Got the warden saying he’d feel safe taking this guy home to his family! All the guards believed he was innocent! Had the run of the prison ! Then one day they hired a pretty woman guard ! That ended up somehow going missing! So they put the puzzle together , and have to literally take apart the city dump ! Well they find her , well pieces of her , and guess what they find all over her torso ? Bite marks ! Turns out the SOB raped and tortured her to death ! Then cut her body up and threw her in the trash ! The same evil prick all these people thought was wrongly accused ! Well the teeth matched plus they had DNA by then ! He only got another life sentence ! Wonder how the jury felt about that !
God bless the Hangman, 🙏🏻 I’ve seen a documentary on this hangman he was used all over the world for England, if a man asks you to do it quickly, and you leap for the lever your a decent human being!
So you are saying that because a man tells you to pull a lever to kill someone and you do quickly and leap for it then that makes you a decent person. That's ridiculous and it's what all the worst war criminals always say, '' I was just following orders''. The SS definitely pulled a lot of levers in WW2 but because their 'man' said it was okay then that makes them decent. You obviously aren't old enough to remember apartheid in South Africa. The whites were the ones in power and blacks were the second class citizens, and there was plenty of lever pulling going on there, A decent man is the one who stops and thinks.
What about the other guy he shot ? He doesn’t count ? That’s my problem with the death penalty a lot of SOBs that really deserved to die , get life ! Here’s the thing , most of these killers especially today aren’t done killing! So as the libs are slapping themselves on the backs some poor bastard that’s in for making a dumb mistake! Is getting raped and murdered by some animal that should have been killed are still killing guards and other prisoners! Now they want to stop solitary confinement! Too ?
@@Bernie8330 If you read my comments, I did say the methodology differed in some respects, but as I don't know the Australian methods I can't be specific. Perhaps you missed that part. I also stated quite clearly that I had seen the movie (Timothy Small playing the role of Pierrepoint), but also quite clearly you didn't read that far or you wouldn't have asked. In that section I explained quite a lot about the film and the film-maker's agenda. When responding with a comment, it helps matters greatly when you put one in the right place rather than in a general section - it makes finding the context a lot easier! - just something else you chose to miss.
@@reggriffiths5769 No I haven't read every comment in every section and I am not obliged to do so, though the number I do get through is directly proportionate to the time I have on my hands. Your rudeness, pompousness and general condemning demeanour towards myself is more than a little disappointing. You could take a few lessons in context yourself in that regard. I only asked out of curiosity - not knowing the answer either way - and my tone was not intended to be anything but completely disarming, but I also shouldn't have to explain that, I don't think
@@Bernie8330 You are quite right - I am all the things you mentioned. However, if you do not have the time to read something, and don't have the "time proportionate" to do so, why do you seek to waste someone else's time when your questions are already answered? Don't you think that wholly inconsiderate? The plain truth that you didn't know the answer, is purely because you were too bone idle to look. Perhaps reading is too much for you, but it doesn't stop you asking spurious questions.
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Not a bad way to go. Just a suspended sentence.
Yes I could pull the lever.
I will only comment on the knot. In Canada it was an American style knot. Proceedings governing capital punishment in Australia varied depending where you were in the country but it wasn't a copy of British methods
It’s interesting how one of the journalists talks about the hanging as being such a callous act with tears in his eyes. So was Ryan’s coldblooded murder! Ronald Ryan was not an innocent man, despite his protests of innocence. Four people testified under oath that Ryan was the man who fired the fatal shot. Ryan made a conscious decision to hang by choosing to murder in the first place. Ryan made a conscious choice to aim that gun and pull that trigger. His victim didn‘t have any choice in the matter at all!
who the hell are those four people. if Ryan did shot him then wheres the cartridge. no round no proof.
Starts out with a USA cowboy style hangman's noose. The Aussies would have used a Brit style slip noose.
"It doesn't matter we're all human beings" thanks Don
God rest his soul.
This guy, no matter if he pulled the trigger or not was responsible for the death of 2 people, but not a word about these men or the devastation caused to their families. In this documentary, it's RON this and RON that, he took a father and husband away from their loved ones so fuck him. But this is the way of the world now, fuck the victim, just make sure the perpetrator gets a nice cup of tea.
My guess dated after 20 Sept 1973?
I have no idea of how Capital Punishment by hanging was carried out in Australia, but I do know the entire process as was done in the UK. I would have thought that Australia would have used something very similar to the UK since it was, and has been a British Colony for 200 years. No docu-drama ever portrays an event with accuracy, especially in the case of a State Execution which precise processes were not normally available for public knowledge or scrutiny; Such things usually come under the Official Secrets Act, and I presume this would also have applied in Australia. As far as the above drama itself is concerned, there is no resemblance whatsoever to any State Execution as was performed in the UK. In the first place, the use of a Western-style rope would never be used, for several reasons. In Britain, the rope end had a metal eye through which the rope was threaded to make a loop, and which allowed the rope to slip freely. Once the noose was placed over the condemned's head, the "eye" was placed under the left jawbone, and held in place by a rubber ring. The drama shows a long length of rope draped over a guard rail - this is extremely unlikely to have ever been the case, because the evening prior to the date of execution, a sandbag matching the victim's weight would have been attached to the noose and dropped the predetermined, calculated drop distance in order to stretch the rope, the purpose of this was to prevent any further stretching that would alter the calculation, and any spring-back. Left overnight, the executioner and his assistant would remove the sandbag and lightly tie the rope to the level of the victim's neck.To do it as shown in the video, would be an absolute disaster as there is too much loose rope; when dropped by such means, the victim is more likely to fall any which way, causing untold amount of damage before possibly being strangled. By the means of the way rope is twisted in its manufacture, it will automatically slip to the right and stop under the point of the chin, which would force the head sharply back, breaking the neck at the third vertibrae. Instant death. On the scaffold, it is normal practice for two guards to hold the prisoner - one on either side - to prevent his moving from the central spot and the possibility of hitting the trap doors during the drop. Under the British process, from the time the officials entered the cell to the actual moment of the trap doors being released, averaged 10-12 seconds. The shortest time ever recorded was less than eight seconds, the longest some 21-22 seconds. If the above video is to be believed, the average time appears to be around five or more MINUTES! There is so much about the above video that is wrong, and could only have come from someone's fanciful imagination, for the longer the condemned is compelled to stand around, the more nervous and animated he/she will become, and the more chance of something going wrong. Under the British method, the victim does not have the time nor opportunity to think, never mind anything else, as he is simply quick-marched from his cell - which is right next door to the traps (imagine adjoining bedrooms with a single door between), placed on the centre point, hands and legs quickly strapped by the executioner and his assistant, the noose and hood slipped over the head the and the lever pulled - it's as quick as that! I really cannot imagine the Australian method being very much different, but certainly not in any way as portrayed above.
In December 2011 I visited the old Melbourne gaol which was where hangings were conducted in the state of Victoria until it closed in the 1930s, after which Pentridge Prison, where Ryan was hanged, was opened. The gallows was only a few short metres from the condemned cell, but it was different to the British system: it was not a secret chamber at the back of the condemned cell but right outside the only door to the condemned's cell and there was also a row of other cells, on this, the same 2nd floor. I do not know if the rope was tested elsewhere so as not to un-nerve the condemned, but I don't see how they could have set it up for the actual job without him being aware of it. I have read accounts of an execution in 1922 of a man who was proven innocent 86 years later, 30 year old Colin Campbell Ross. Ross read a short statement from a piece of paper he had written on while standing on the gallows before the hood was placed over his head - apparently this was the practice, in Victoria at least, other states I do not know. Another case in 1936 that I read about, a man who never claimed to be innocent, was asked on the scaffold if he wished to make a short verbal statement, but he declined. I do not know what the layout was in Pentridge but I assume the execution chamber was also right outside the condemned's cell. Ryan's last recorded words were in fact to the executioner "God bless you and please make it quick." A small contingent of the press were allowed to witness the execution. So it seems that while the Australian system was more imperfect than the British one, it was probably still heaps better than the American way.
@@Bernie8330 Very interesting, although thinking about it, I shouldn't be that surprised at the Aussies taking a different approach, for the Brits were quite pedantic about the "niceties." As shown in many old-time graphics, the original ideas in Britain were very basic: A simple broad stake in a grassy verge, with a single cross-tree and any old bit of rope was common practice. In early Victorian times that practice was outlawed in favour of a public hanging at a prison - with some semblance of decorum! By the mid-late 1800's, a whole series of botched hangings brought forth some "thinking" hangmen who began using some crude mathematics and science re weight, build and drop lengths required, but it was generally a slow learning process, right up the early 20th Century. It was Britain's Chief Hangman, Albert Pierrepoint, following in the footsteps of his family "trade" in hangings, that perfected the art and science, bringing a whole new approach to the processes. The basic idea of hangings had always been strangulation, where the condemned person struggled for much too long - in some cases for longer than 20 minutes. It was horrific for all concerned. and so the idea of breaking the neck was quick, clean and humane. A noose that didn't continue to tighten - like the Western-style - was re-invented, and no longer tightened or gave a neck burn. The process of a speedy transfer from cell to scaffold was tried and tested, but now with a hangman and assistant who could march the prisoner to the spot, strap his legs, fit the head cover, slip the noose and hit the drop lever, all within seconds. and all carried out in front of legal witnesses. The differences at Nuremburg between the American and British methods was stark. Pierrepoint hung hundreds quickly and cleanly, but the majority of those hung by the Americans, were strangled slowly, with some of their victims having their heads banged in the drop. Very unsavoury indeed. Even today in the USA, State Executions are often bungled, with both the electric chair and lethal injection; even in itself, the chair was and is a most barbaric and inhumane form of execution - worse than placing a live chicken in a microwave!! Anyone (I suspect most of us at some time) having suffered an electric shock, knows what it feels like and would never want that experience again!
@@charlieindigo I love the 2005 Pierrepoint movie starting Timothy Spalt. It was unique in that it was not telling the story of Timothy Evans, Derek Bentley or Ruth Ellis et el - they all have their stories told in other movies about them individually. This movie was about the life and career of the man who actually hanged them, a role that any pro capital punishment person would surely take for granted.
@@Bernie8330 I saw that particular movie some time ago, and although I can't quite remember it fully, I recall thinking that there were some inaccuries (which I won't go into here). As with all docu-dramas, there are elements of imagination used, along with incidents arranged for the viewer. An example of this occurs in the scene of the shooting of the prison officer. No-one knows the situation, who was standing or facing where. The precise details - as far as I can tell - were never revealed for those reasons, so one has to accept or reject what the fim shows. As far as the UK is concerned, very strict rules apply to Crown employees, who must comply with the Official Secrets Act. Under no circumstances are they allowed to relate what takes place in the course of certain duties. This applies to Prison staffs, and especially to those who share (guard) a prisoner's last days and hours in a condemned cell. As it happens, my father was present at two of the remaining State Executions in the UK, right up to the moment of execution. In both instances the condemned men made an official request that he be their escort to the gallows, such was his attitude, demeanor and humanity to both men. Very, very few people - and almost certainly none alive today - can tell anything of what took place during those last days and hours. As a police officer at the time, I was privileged to gain that knowledge from my father, so I am probably one of the only people around that can tell precisely what their role was and what took place. From that point of fact, no television documentary, film or book has ever managed to set the scene with any degree of accuracy, or indeed, come anywhere close! Those events took place nearly 60 years ago, and it may be that my documented history may at some point be published - I have not yet decided!!
@@charlieindigo I have scene a youtube video which shows Pierrepoint providing information to a royal commission into capital punishment. I wonder if the makers of the aforementioned film about him based their depiction of the executions he performed on this. Yes, there are some inaccuracies in the film, the most obvious being the ones surrounding the hanging of Dorethea Waddingham: the film depicts it as taking place during the war, whereas it was actually 1936 and also Pierrepoint wasn't the chief hangman at it but was rather assistant to his own uncle.
The comics of The Millenials should watch and take notes on how to be TRULY hilariously funny!!
I'm a I'm somewhere between millennial and gen z and I think Don is the best!! I wish my millennial friends would see the beauty of Don
Hopefully the sound guy didn't find work after this, that first musical number sounded awful 😬
I'm not opposed to the death penalty, I am opposed to hanging as a means of carrying it out.
There is the electric chair, there is the gas chamber, there is the bullet(s), and so on. But the measured drop from the gallows seems to me the best, most humane way.
@@johannesslobbe6854 - So if your father was terminally ill and hospitalized and in horrible pain and begging to be put out of his misery you would ask the hospital staff to hang him instead of using medication to end his life?
@@Marcfj That is just a very stupid answer. Rather idiotic, even.
@@hans2406 - That wasn't an answer; it was a question that you obviously don't want to answer.
@@Marcfj In the UK, anything along those lines would be regarded as an Unlawful act. No doctor, hospital or any other person is permitted to end anyon'es life, no matter how much they are in pain. All that is allowed is palliative care, or if the patient wills it, DNR - Do Not Resuscitate. If the patient is deemed too unfit (mentally or otherwise not in control of his/her mental faculties) then the next-of-kin, and even the doctors/or under doctor's recommendation, can follow the DNR Guidelines. So your comment is simply ridiculous.
Love Michael Caine as well. 💛 R.I.P. Don 🖤💜
No escape, no take the weapon, no dead guard = no hanging
can notadmit the did a crime.
Poor criminals,they were the victims.
M-1 Carbne did have recoil.
I am in shock. This is about as far removed from what I had expected from a Don Rickles special as anything I could have imagined. I watched in disbelief as it progressed. Whoever thought up this format and these sketches must have been trying to sabotage Rickles' career, and I am surprised that Rickles consented to do it.
It defied your expectations. it means it's good.
@@davidames1746 Are you saying that anything that defies one's expectations is therefore good, simply by virtue of that fact? There is no logic whatsoever in that statement.
It's great in THIS case.
Well very nice, but I do not see anyone crying for the death warden, George hodson, if I am right was his name. If the warden was married or has children, no one gave a sh.. But still in our time with DNA it's very easy to understand , and for killers or murderers by purpose, and especially by mass murderer, I want the death penalty!!
He was married and still has living children.
@@YortOK : that's exactly what I have said, because in the documentary and in the movie the murderer was characterised like a SAINT. Even the priest was almost crying when he was speaking about the execution! In the country I am living for the last 40 years, one person killed 13 people (13 families destroyed) he got life sentences, but aftera few years in jail, because the law stipulates it, he was able to take every year three or four times vacation, but since he was not stupid one day he didn't return to jail, and that for a few years. Anyway after they catches him again, and now the problem is , he can take vacation or not!!!!! His name is known by most of the people in his country, but how many he killed , or what nationality the where, married, children, ? Nobody knows or even cares about!!!! On the other side just think how much he has cost until now to the state, or the taxpayer, and he is not the only one!! When on the other side the state has no money for pensions, healthcare, or education!!!
one problem i see with this video is that the noose use is an American style noose, not a British style noose which was used in Australia
the ausie executioner has allways been a screw from a different nick.
I'm sorry to upset anyone but if you take a life you owe a life. It is with the understanding you have ended the days of someone else and there is no coming back and yet not only have you destroyed the life of the person murdered you have destroyed the lives of those around that person ( thinking only of the self). Deterrent are not the death penalty should be the ultimate sacrifice you will pay for taking someone's life period.
Have you ever killed a fly? That's a life
I understand a victims need for revenge. But, the judicial process is not perfect. Prosecutors may have political motives, police may be corrupt, or inept. Public outcry may demand a target at all costs. It has been proven many times that absolutely innocent people are convicted and sentence to death. If the State kills the innocent, the State has committed murder.
Well said.
If there is an admission of guilt, the admission will be used to fold the proof around. Any judge or jury would be advised to always ignore the admission and pick the proof apart.
all these do gooders and leftwing loons whining about the rights of murders, well what about the rights of their victims ??? stuff the rights if murders and hanging them should return to our justice system
The Last Spartan I’ve been screaming the same thing. What about the rights of the victims who never wanted to die?
The victims cannot speak. For those without a doubt of their guilt, put them to death. Those who have been wrongfully accused, there are plenty of appeals, and stays of executions. It takes a lifetime to administer justice in the US. That should be enough to prove innocence or guilt. With DNA now the backbone of defense, I highly doubt the innocence of those who receive the death penalty today. If there is doubt, like I said, they got decades to prove their innocence.
Who cares if a murderer dies a painful death? You bleeding hearts are pitiful. You spend all your time talking about wrongful deaths but never mention the murders that these ppl have committed? Wrongful death today with DNA is near impossible wouldn’t you agree. After all it is DNA that exonerates those who, you say were wrongfully convicted. When are you ppl gonna hang that argument on the wall and instead seek justice for the victims?
Is that including those that were not guilty?
@@toddandangelbrowning2920 There still is a lot of doubt if DNA is used as it must be done. Even if the DNA in a case is 100% there are still possibilities to "play".
Monumental travesties of justice have often occurred as bent fuzz plant evidence to get a conviction at any cost. And if governments don't get the result they want, they dismiss the investigating team, over and over again, until they get a conviction via bought-out "experts" and conscience-less officials. Like Dave Littlewood below, I would want to see the death penalty exacted for rape/murder, violent kidnapping with severe injury to the victim, and any murder committed in the presence of many witnesses. But I cannot support death if based on evidence of circumstance alone. And if a cop is proven to have planted evidence which if believed, would result in an innocent man's hanging, then that cop will hang. Period. And if imprisonment rather than hanging, the cop will be thrown in klink too, without special protection.
If the judge who gave the death penalty also has to do the execution nobody will be executed any more.
No noose is good noose
Dignity and respect? Bullshit. This beast should have been hanged so his neck didn't break, and hanged over a hog pen. When he died, they should have cut the rope and let the hogs eat him, and it should have been done publicly. The people in Australia has even surrendered most of their guns now, and as this video shows, they've become a nation of pussies. You know a nation has become evil, soft, weak, and sissified when it wants murderers to have dignity and respect, when it stops executing beasts, and starts treating them like model citizens. Hang them high, hang them fast, and hang them publicly. It won't stop all murders, but it will certainly stop some of them, and taxpayers won't have to support the dirty son of a bitch for the next thirty or forty years. More, such executions are done to give the family of the victim a bit more peace of mind, and it works. Nothing is as evil as knowing your loved one is dead, and the animal that killed him or her is still alive, and being clothed and fed and given medical care with your money. So there are very, very good reasons to execute such animals other than discouraging others not to commit such crimes. On top of all these reasons, animals like this are a waste of good air, water, and food.
The last man to be huge in Carlisle England
The death penalty is from biblical law.
The death penalty is far older than the Bible. It is done as punishment for a crime, it is done to discourage others from committing such c imes, and perhapos most important, it is done to give those who loved the victim the peace of mind that comes from knowing the murderer is dead, just like the victim, and won't be supported for the rest of his natural life with your money.
It is is just too sick the murderer ends up with the support of the general public and the victims along with the victim's family are more or less forgotten .
Joseph Forest to me that’s another reason why executions are wrong lock them up and forget them
@@anne-marieriamitchell1140 Too expensive to keep them .
@Jane Marsee Executions are more expensive than life in prison. It is weird but it is true (at least for the USA).
Yeh sounds and looks like a real sweetheart. Had huge potential . Give me a break.
People like you need a break.
Far far to many innocents have been executed to think the death penalty is ethical, one is to many but there have been hundreds . I do think some cases merit the death penalty, people like Brady and war criminals where the evidence is 100 % sound . I would if it was up to me get rid of diplomatic immunity apart from misdemeanors and I would place greater emphasis on punishment for murder ,manslaughter and life changing injuries as opposed to the theft of money where it seems the sentence is greater especially if your poor.
Allow me to say that the girls that murdered Sharon Tate and her baby ,I would put a rope around their neck's.Paul Bernardo and the way he kidnapped and murdered , his 2 girl victims . These are just 2 cases , people turn the killers into victims .
The wife
He died with dignity and the law was carried out.
A balanced review would have been preferable.
And as expected, no information whatsoever regarding the identity of the executioner (hangman).
Don't be a dumbass. This was a "man" who committed murder, who took a life and destroyed everyone the dead officer loved, and who loved him. The executioner was a man doing his duty, a good man, and releasing information about him would be evil,
@@jamesaritchie1 Yep, the only reason Albert Pierrepoint became known and famous in Britain was to give the country a morale boost after the second world war, as he had been sent to Germany to hang some 200 Nazi war criminals. Pierrepoint himself resented his new public profile and believed very strongly in the clandestine way it had always previously been done.
Death penalty is the most disgusting, barbarian and brutal murder that exists. There is no justification whatsoever to commit it. They kill a completely defenceless human being which by being incarcerated won’t be able to cause any further harm. Nobody is allowed to take a life.
Jane Marsee would you feel comfortable with the death penalty if as a wrongly convicted innocent person you were on the gallows?
35:44 > Ulster Scots Australian accent?
British person who emigrated to Australia.
Somehow i think they should have given him real notepaper to write to his family.
To hell with his family. If he was going to be given good paper, it should have been used to write to the victim's family, begging for forgiveness.
So glad someone uploaded this special. The guerilla leader (30:20) and midnight cowboy skits are pure gold.
Unless your gonna build a prison for these animals where they can absolutely never get there hands on another human being! Then you have to put these animals down , I’m not saying this guy did it , the evidence was pretty weak , but the majority are complete animals, I saw a documentary on this one prisoner that got life instead of death because although the bite marks on this mutilated woman were very close , the jury wouldn’t give the death penalty on the guy , so he gets life , 15 years in he’s. Got the warden saying he’d feel safe taking this guy home to his family! All the guards believed he was innocent! Had the run of the prison ! Then one day they hired a pretty woman guard ! That ended up somehow going missing! So they put the puzzle together , and have to literally take apart the city dump ! Well they find her , well pieces of her , and guess what they find all over her torso ? Bite marks ! Turns out the SOB raped and tortured her to death ! Then cut her body up and threw her in the trash ! The same evil prick all these people thought was wrongly accused ! Well the teeth matched plus they had DNA by then ! He only got another life sentence ! Wonder how the jury felt about that !
You can’t bring a man back , but you can put an end to the chance these bastards will ever kill again !
God bless the Hangman, 🙏🏻 I’ve seen a documentary on this hangman he was used all over the world for England, if a man asks you to do it quickly, and you leap for the lever your a decent human being!
So you are saying that because a man tells you to pull a lever to kill someone and you do quickly and leap for it then that makes you a decent person. That's ridiculous and it's what all the worst war criminals always say, '' I was just following orders''. The SS definitely pulled a lot of levers in WW2 but because their 'man' said it was okay then that makes them decent. You obviously aren't old enough to remember apartheid in South Africa. The whites were the ones in power and blacks were the second class citizens, and there was plenty of lever pulling going on there, A decent man is the one who stops and thinks.
Ok he finally said he wasn’t guilty
Wouldn’t he have said he didn’t do it ?
What about the other guy he shot ? He doesn’t count ? That’s my problem with the death penalty a lot of SOBs that really deserved to die , get life ! Here’s the thing , most of these killers especially today aren’t done killing! So as the libs are slapping themselves on the backs some poor bastard that’s in for making a dumb mistake! Is getting raped and murdered by some animal that should have been killed are still killing guards and other prisoners! Now they want to stop solitary confinement! Too ?
Maybe the difference came later on in history? They hung people up until the 50s in England
1965
People are still hung, shot, gassed, electrocuted, injected, decapitated in the name of justice by various less then first world countries.
In England they didn’t use the same kind of hangman’s noose ,
Quite right - see my description above.
@@charlieindigo And a different methodology. I assume you've seen the movie "Pierrepoint: The Last Hangman"?
@@Bernie8330 If you read my comments, I did say the methodology differed in some respects, but as I don't know the Australian methods I can't be specific. Perhaps you missed that part. I also stated quite clearly that I had seen the movie (Timothy Small playing the role of Pierrepoint), but also quite clearly you didn't read that far or you wouldn't have asked. In that section I explained quite a lot about the film and the film-maker's agenda. When responding with a comment, it helps matters greatly when you put one in the right place rather than in a general section - it makes finding the context a lot easier! - just something else you chose to miss.
@@reggriffiths5769 No I haven't read every comment in every section and I am not obliged to do so, though the number I do get through is directly proportionate to the time I have on my hands. Your rudeness, pompousness and general condemning demeanour towards myself is more than a little disappointing. You could take a few lessons in context yourself in that regard. I only asked out of curiosity - not knowing the answer either way - and my tone was not intended to be anything but completely disarming, but I also shouldn't have to explain that, I don't think
@@Bernie8330 You are quite right - I am all the things you mentioned. However, if you do not have the time to read something, and don't have the "time proportionate" to do so, why do you seek to waste someone else's time when your questions are already answered? Don't you think that wholly inconsiderate? The plain truth that you didn't know the answer, is purely because you were too bone idle to look. Perhaps reading is too much for you, but it doesn't stop you asking spurious questions.
No comedian can pull this off now. I love the part with the black cop