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Drumtune PRO | Drum Tuner
Приєднався 25 чер 2014
Drumtune PRO is a drum tuner app for iOS & Android.
This is a support channel for Drumtune PRO users. We show drum tuning tips, and how to use the app, and some of the videos we made providing support to users end up here as well...
www.drumtunepro.com
www.exaltd.com
This is a support channel for Drumtune PRO users. We show drum tuning tips, and how to use the app, and some of the videos we made providing support to users end up here as well...
www.drumtunepro.com
www.exaltd.com
Tuning my 10" tom with drum tuner EZ to Dmitry's specific lug pitches and explaining the process.
Hi Dmitry,
as promised, I filmed a video for you wherein I tune my 10" tom to your personal tuning values for your drum, as shared in your email to me.
It's a quite long movie. First, I explain how I get stable lug pitch detections. (... and I go on about that.)
I figured this type of interference may have been what you referred to, so that's why I spend so much time on illustrating it.
At some point in the movie I show, on 2 different TB's, and also on the app, how sometimes you can detect the fundamental tone instead of a lug pitch while hitting near a lug.
This phenomenon occurs when the drum heads are tuned in a way whereat the fundamental tone is so 'present' in the drum sound, that even a hit near the bearing edges excite it sufficiently to show up in the readings.
In such a case, you can see that the app, and also the TB's, will sometimes display a reading of the fundamental tone, instead of a lug pitch.
Whether it happens or not, just depends on the specific tuning of the drum.
As soon as the fundamental tone is too preset in the sound, you'll risk that it interferes.
(In Drumtune PRO, there's preset tuner mode, with a CENTER/EDGE switch that solves this type of interference.)
In drum tuner EZ, if the fundamental tone interferes and thus prevents the app (or a TB) from reading a lug pitch successfully, you can mainly do two things to get perfect lug pitch readings all the time.
Here they are:
1) Just detect a lug pitch from a lug that gives a good reading and press 'set'. Now, the app will prevent the fundamental tone (and also higher order overtones) from being detected, so that you can successfully detect the lug pitch of lugs that were previously showing a reading of the fundamental tone. (BTW: On a TB, you could use the same approach and then press its 'filter' button. That way, with the filter mode activated on a detected lug pitch, also a TB won't suffer from an interfering fundamental tone anymore, and it would also display the lug pitches correctly.)
2) Alternatively you could 'mute' the fundamental tone physically. To do so, simply place the drum on a flat surface. Now, the fundamental tone can't be produced by the drum, thus there's no more risk of it interfering with the lug pitch readings anymore and you'll successfully detect the lug pitches. You can combine solution 2, and 1 as well to further eliminate higher order overtone interference.
Only in the mid of the vid or so, I started tuning the batter head to a lug pitch of 210 Hz, and the resonant head to a lug pitch of 275 Hz, which were your values*.
Those resulted in a fundamental tone of about 139 / 140 Hz, really close to a C#.
Note:
*Those values are not remarkably giving you a nice tone, and nice decay. That's because of how they proportionally relate with the fundamental tone, and with one another in a consonant manner. Their ratios (B/F= ~P5, R/F = ~P8, B/R= ~P4) are following rather consonant intervals that introduce some harmonics in the timbre, and beat frequency which are promoting the perceived tonal harmony in the timbre and our (psycho-acoustic) perception of definite pitch in the drum sound.
Keep in mind that such a tuning sounds much different when captured/heard from above the heads, than how it projects from the sides of the drum into the surroundings.
I may make another video showing you that aspect, later on, if I find another moment to make it.
You can see me tune to your values.
During that fine-tuning process nothing of interest occurs.
I follow the tuning flow, exactly like how I would do it normally.
At least, you can see me use 'set' target, and/or refresh it and set it again when needed.
Perhaps it's still interesting to observe, and you may get some insight by what I tell while tuning.
(FYI: It's a DIY drum, with cheap hardware that I recovered from a entry-level kit. I sanded the bearing edges manually. They are not as perfect as machined ones, and thus the drum fine-tunes a bit less fluently.)
The tuning goes relatively smoothly, nonetheless fine-tuning that drum with those heads to 1 Hz accuracy takes a couple of minutes per head to get it really right.
In general, fine-tuning a drumhead to a specific lug pitch and clearing it with a precision of +/- 1 Hz, is obviously more time consuming than clearing to a precision of +/- 2 Hz.
Still clearing with a tool beats me tuning by ear to that same degree of precsion.
Of course, you decide for yourself how precise your drums must be tuned, before their sound serves your needs.
If you're fine with a drum sound coming from a head that's cleared to lug pitches in each other's ball park range instead, you can also stop earlier with fine-tuning.
Overall, I hope it helps to clarify stuff. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask'm by email.
I stay put!
Best regards,
Bram
as promised, I filmed a video for you wherein I tune my 10" tom to your personal tuning values for your drum, as shared in your email to me.
It's a quite long movie. First, I explain how I get stable lug pitch detections. (... and I go on about that.)
I figured this type of interference may have been what you referred to, so that's why I spend so much time on illustrating it.
At some point in the movie I show, on 2 different TB's, and also on the app, how sometimes you can detect the fundamental tone instead of a lug pitch while hitting near a lug.
This phenomenon occurs when the drum heads are tuned in a way whereat the fundamental tone is so 'present' in the drum sound, that even a hit near the bearing edges excite it sufficiently to show up in the readings.
In such a case, you can see that the app, and also the TB's, will sometimes display a reading of the fundamental tone, instead of a lug pitch.
Whether it happens or not, just depends on the specific tuning of the drum.
As soon as the fundamental tone is too preset in the sound, you'll risk that it interferes.
(In Drumtune PRO, there's preset tuner mode, with a CENTER/EDGE switch that solves this type of interference.)
In drum tuner EZ, if the fundamental tone interferes and thus prevents the app (or a TB) from reading a lug pitch successfully, you can mainly do two things to get perfect lug pitch readings all the time.
Here they are:
1) Just detect a lug pitch from a lug that gives a good reading and press 'set'. Now, the app will prevent the fundamental tone (and also higher order overtones) from being detected, so that you can successfully detect the lug pitch of lugs that were previously showing a reading of the fundamental tone. (BTW: On a TB, you could use the same approach and then press its 'filter' button. That way, with the filter mode activated on a detected lug pitch, also a TB won't suffer from an interfering fundamental tone anymore, and it would also display the lug pitches correctly.)
2) Alternatively you could 'mute' the fundamental tone physically. To do so, simply place the drum on a flat surface. Now, the fundamental tone can't be produced by the drum, thus there's no more risk of it interfering with the lug pitch readings anymore and you'll successfully detect the lug pitches. You can combine solution 2, and 1 as well to further eliminate higher order overtone interference.
Only in the mid of the vid or so, I started tuning the batter head to a lug pitch of 210 Hz, and the resonant head to a lug pitch of 275 Hz, which were your values*.
Those resulted in a fundamental tone of about 139 / 140 Hz, really close to a C#.
Note:
*Those values are not remarkably giving you a nice tone, and nice decay. That's because of how they proportionally relate with the fundamental tone, and with one another in a consonant manner. Their ratios (B/F= ~P5, R/F = ~P8, B/R= ~P4) are following rather consonant intervals that introduce some harmonics in the timbre, and beat frequency which are promoting the perceived tonal harmony in the timbre and our (psycho-acoustic) perception of definite pitch in the drum sound.
Keep in mind that such a tuning sounds much different when captured/heard from above the heads, than how it projects from the sides of the drum into the surroundings.
I may make another video showing you that aspect, later on, if I find another moment to make it.
You can see me tune to your values.
During that fine-tuning process nothing of interest occurs.
I follow the tuning flow, exactly like how I would do it normally.
At least, you can see me use 'set' target, and/or refresh it and set it again when needed.
Perhaps it's still interesting to observe, and you may get some insight by what I tell while tuning.
(FYI: It's a DIY drum, with cheap hardware that I recovered from a entry-level kit. I sanded the bearing edges manually. They are not as perfect as machined ones, and thus the drum fine-tunes a bit less fluently.)
The tuning goes relatively smoothly, nonetheless fine-tuning that drum with those heads to 1 Hz accuracy takes a couple of minutes per head to get it really right.
In general, fine-tuning a drumhead to a specific lug pitch and clearing it with a precision of +/- 1 Hz, is obviously more time consuming than clearing to a precision of +/- 2 Hz.
Still clearing with a tool beats me tuning by ear to that same degree of precsion.
Of course, you decide for yourself how precise your drums must be tuned, before their sound serves your needs.
If you're fine with a drum sound coming from a head that's cleared to lug pitches in each other's ball park range instead, you can also stop earlier with fine-tuning.
Overall, I hope it helps to clarify stuff. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask'm by email.
I stay put!
Best regards,
Bram
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What determines the lowest fundamental tone you can tune a drum at?
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HOW LOW CAN YOU GO? The physical limits of a drum’s tonal tuning range depend on how slack or how tight you can tension its drum heads. The lug pitches at a drum head’s minimum tension-extreme and maximum tension-extreme clamp how 'low' or how 'high' you can tune that drum head. A thinner drum head of the same diameter and construction would display a higher lug pitch at its minimum tension, th...
12” Tom tuning from scratch to a random fundamental tone while exploring different tunings for it.
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Quick video just to demonstrate the main principle & tuning basics. This 12" tom is not tuned in the context of an entire kit. I did briefly explore the sound, based on my preference of the moment. I first tuned the tom to a random fundamental tone that felt right. Only thereafter, I use the app for fine-tuning while clearing the heads. Note that the app is used to clear the heads, but not for ...
Tweaking tuning while staying at the same fundamental to get 'beefier' dynamics & reduce 'boing.'
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Hi Sam, Check first tuning (00.58 min) , next to second tuning (13.50 min) for the same fundamental tone of C at 65 Hz. In this video I demo two completely different tuning styles to get a very different drum decay and dynamics for the same fundamental tone. This shows how much the dynamics and feel of the drum depend on the individual tuning of the heads for the same tone. The first tuning for...
Tuning 16” floor tom to a fundamental tone of C2@65 Hz, with both heads cleared to same lug pitches.
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Hi Sam, check this video I made for you about how to tune your floor tom to about a C2 at 65 Hz fundamental tone, with lug pitches of approx. 112.5 Hz for both heads... You could for example also try to tune your batter head to approx. 87 Hz, or so, and the reso to 140-150 Hz, whatever it takes to get to C2 / 65 Hz for the fundamental tone. Since you have a diplomat as a batter, I don't think y...
Some toms tuned towards one another for getting a balanced feel, tonal spacing, and decay dynamics.
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A few drums a tuned today/yesterday night to provide support to Tjas & Sam, now put together in a 'kit configuration'. Overall, the fundamental tones of these toms have a nice tonal distance between one another, while at the same time the way both heads are tuned per drum results in a balanced feel and resonance duration, with controlled dynamics that are similar over for the four drums. Note t...
Tuning my 12" tom to a C for Tjas; and storing the tuning in a customized preset.
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Hi Tjas, I made this video for you wherein I explore tuning to get a good sounding C out of the drum at hand, with the given heads installed. In a first demonstration, I quickly show how I get to a C, starting from a random tuning of the drum by simply tweaking the heads a bit. Then, in a second demonstration, I detune the drum completely and tune it up differently to get to a C again. This sec...
Tuning my 13" tom from scratch to A2 for Tjas with both heads at the same lug pitches.
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Tuning my 13" tom from scratch to A2 for Tjas with both heads at the same lug pitches. After that I tune it to G2 with batter and reso at the same lug pitch. Next I tune to G2 with batter lower than reso
12" & 14" Snare drums tuned equally (Check description for info.)
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This video shows two very different snare drums that are tuned similarly. Drumtune PRO | Drum Tuner Android: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.exaltd.DRUM_TUNER_DrumtunePRO_Drums_Percussion_Tuning iOS: itunes.apple.com/be/app/drumtune-pro-drum-tuner/id655607914?mt=8 These are some specs of both snares: "The Phantom": 12" diameter snare, 5" depth. (Birch/Walnut, 45° Sharp bearing edges, ...
demo for Kieran
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Just a quick demo... to help. Contact support@drumtunepro.com by email, please. We are happy to provide more input demo material/tips/etc. Exploring different tunings to find the right sound for the very first time usually takes a while. Finding a drum sound is a process of 'listening, testing, tweaking, repeating.' Once you found your sound, fine-tuning goes fast if you clear your lug pitches ...
Drum Tuner EZ. Drum Tuning Made Easy! Detecting lug pitches & fundamental tone on a tom with iPhone.
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Drum Tuner EZ on the App Store: itunes.apple.com/us/app/drum-tuner-ez/id1357604930?mt=8 Drum Tuner EZ on the Play Store: ua-cam.com/video/XVWMO0p4ufs/v-deo.html Drum Tuner EZ is a very simple drum tuning app for iPhone. (Drum tuner app for iOS.) This video shows the app detecting lug pitches of a tom batter head, and detecting the fundamental tone of the tom. It also shows the tuning of a lug p...
Drumtune PRO-Reading consistency. How to deal with overtones correctly?
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Demonstration of Drumtune PRO flanked by Tune bots showing that overtones are physically present in a drum sound. Overtones could from time to time disturb the correct display of the lug pitch and cause a 'jumpy-reading', as visualized by the Tune bots in this demo. Both Drumtune PRO and Tune-bot have built-in functionality to deal with interfering overtones in order to get a correct display of...
Drumtune PRO Preset Tuner mode for tuning your drums (iOS)
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How to use PRESET TUNER mode in Drumtune PRO? Check out this short tutorial video on how to create a TUNING PRESET with Drumtune PRO for iOS, and load it into the PRESET TUNER, to tune your drum. Get Drumtune PRO here: Drumtune PRO 2.0 for iOS = ow.ly/EshQ30cifg1 Drumtune PRO 2.0 for ANDROID (1.0.3) = ow.ly/jmAm30fBBeB The 2-step work-flow is as follows: STEP 1 = switch on 'CENTER' ... hit cent...
Drumtune PRO BETA TEST ANDROID PREVIEW
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Androiders: We are severely beta-testing our upcoming release. Check this preview movie to get a sneak peak on what you can expect from the upcoming update for Android. (It's gonna include tuning presets, expansion packs, preset list with kits, predefined kits and so on... just like what is now yet available in iOS.) We are testing, and fixing issues during this thorough beta test phase.... It ...
Drumtune PRO - Comparing Aquarian, Evans, Remo drum head sounds at same tuning
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Drumtune PRO | Drum Tuner TUNE YOUR DRUMS WITH YOUR SMARTPHONE App for IOS: apps.apple.com/us/app/drumtune-pro-drum-tuner/id655607914 App for Android: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.exaltd.DRUM_TUNER_DrumtunePRO_Drums_Percussion_Tuning&pli=1 www.drumtunepro.com Facebook: DrumtunePRO DRUMHEAD SOUND EXPERIMENT A drum's sound is largely influenced by the type of drumheads t...
Drumtune PRO Android Tuning snare batter head to 422 Hz NOTB
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Drumtune PRO Android Tuning snare batter head to 422 Hz NOTB
Drumtune PRO for Android -Tuning a 12" snare drum resonant head to 509 Hz
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Drumtune PRO for Android -Tuning a 12" snare drum resonant head to 509 Hz
HOW TO TUNE YOUR SNARE DRUM LIKE A PRO?
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HOW TO TUNE YOUR SNARE DRUM LIKE A PRO?
HOW TO TUNE YOUR SNARE DRUM LIKE A PRO?
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HOW TO TUNE YOUR SNARE DRUM LIKE A PRO?
How to tune your drums within a few minutes, LIKE A PRO?
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How to tune your drums within a few minutes, LIKE A PRO?
Snare drum tuning tutorial: muting unwanted overtones on resonant head when using drumtune PRO
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Snare drum tuning tutorial: muting unwanted overtones on resonant head when using drumtune PRO
Drum tuning with Drumtune PRO -LUG TUNER MODE BASICS
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Drum tuning with Drumtune PRO -LUG TUNER MODE BASICS
How to tune your drum: Snare drum tuning tips - Overtones and lug pitch
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How to tune your drum: Snare drum tuning tips - Overtones and lug pitch
Drum Tuning Tips- Drum Head Clearing Basics
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Drum Tuning Tips- Drum Head Clearing Basics
Drumtune PRO | Drum Tuner: Snare drum tuning tips - Overtones and lug pitch
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Drumtune PRO | Drum Tuner: Snare drum tuning tips - Overtones and lug pitch
Its not working anymore, please Update the app!!!
Good video my friend!!!Can you tell me please the modell of the resonance head?Thank you!!!!
Remo with muffling evans and Aquarian without
Aquarian Evans then remo in order for me. Aquarian was a stand out for me as the best
What app is it brother!
❤that's a great app
What a stupid video. Too much clowning.🤮
Doesn’t work on new IOS 18 :(
Remos sound a little too warm for me, need attack and bright sound Evans does it for me i use ec2 heads on my Tama kit they sound wonderful
Remo
The initial response of the Aquarian sounds superior to my ear.
I sent an inquiry to your support. Any update on that? The app is not working
Aquarian surprised me on this one!
iOS 18 😢
evans
Hi ,thanks for this Tool !!!
The iOS18 system is not working properly. Please help us resolve the issue.
For my taste that tom was very high
Drumtune pro and Drumtune EZ not working on iOS 18. Microphone not working. In recording mode, the microphone works stably.
The same with Pro version on iOS 18 and 18.0.1😢
Me too
Amazing! I guess Aquarian is a lil bit similar with Evans, but the other hand Remo has a kind of vibrato at the end of punching
hello, this is the best app ever, my old drum can be tuned perfectly, i just bought your app yesterday, save hundred MYR , thanks again
You're welcome! Thanks for sharing & Have fun drumming! ;)
@@drumtuneprodrumtuner6249 is there any update for the ios18? It’s hardly to get any information
hey, i just puchase it, gonna try it now❤
heyyy this app is crazy accurate❤❤❤, thanks
@@BorneoClassical May I ask what is the phone model you are using?
@@austinco3718 hii, Sure.. its Ip 15 pro
I just brought Tama Stagestar set. Could you please share me the best note or Hz to tune. Toms: 10" 12" 16" snare:14" Bass:22
Is the app free or is there a subscription for it? I have an Android! 😂
I'm getting inconsistent readings when hitting my drums. For some reason, my floor tom has a higher pitch in the center than at the lugs
Hi Manny, could you please reach out to support@drumtunepro.com with details? We’ll take a look and try to think along about what happens and why. At the moment there are many possible aspects we should have a clear view on before we can assist properly. Eg. Is the drum on its feet or stand or on a flat surface… Are both heads on? Are both heads somehow tensioned,… What are the lug pitches of both heads? What is the fundamental tone when hitting the drum in its center of either side, with both heads tensioned and vibrating freely together? What do you get in basic tuner mode when selecting floor tom low or floor tom standard setting? Is lug focus or lock target on or off when you hit in the center? Are you using preset tuner or basic tuner mode? If preset tuner, are you in center or edge mode? :) We’ll be able to provide better support, as soon as we get a clear view on the situation at your side. Thanks!
I can ear what i don't like with the emperor that I actually use : The resonance in the low medium decay ...I'll have to give it a try to the aquarian Response 2 !!!
Remo has too much ring
Does the tune bot studio is better than that app ?
Well, I just realized what a NOOB I am. They sounded great to me, not enough of a difference for me to even care ... I just thit the shit out of my anyways .. carry on.
Evans and Aquarian sounded the best, remo had some weird overtones going on
doesnt work on new iOS
It works on iOS 17.5.1 which is the latest iOS release on June 16th 2024, Today. Could you please let us know your iOS version? Thanks!
@@drumtuneprodrumtuner6249 dev beta 18 mic doesnt get recognized!
@@drumtuneprodrumtuner6249hi, Im currently using ios18.1.1 and it does not works
Remo comes in last again!
I think this app has some real potential. Can you make a quick video on the lug view features? Also, the pricing on the website is incorrect compared to on the Android and iPhone app stores.
Great job demonstrating that they are strikingly similar. Play whatever brand you like. This is a well done and concise clip.
Aquarian is the best for me
If I have the 16 tom at C#2, what note should a 18 tom be in?
A#1
👍🏻 Aquarian
Remo #1
remo sounds shit. I am now going to change all my heads to Evans now. Remo ...they have this overtone ring that is so yuck haha. Evans sounded best to me, then Aquarian.
Lemme spell it out for you guys... Aquarian and Evans heads have a bump in the 6k-8k region because of the collar design, and Remo heads have a bump in the 8k-10k region, thanks to... the collar design with the glue. Its the reason why Remo heads tend to be preferred by mixing engineers and also why their quality control is so terrible. Evans are a little more attack-y than Aquarian because Aquarian designs their heads to kinda come "pre-tuned." Basically they design their heads to have a bit of a pitch right out of the factory. I've only had one bad Evans head ever, and I've had many MANY Remo heads that were totally unusable. I've never had a bad Aquarian head ever, but their collars are extremely stiff and have a much smaller tuning range. Pick whichever you like best!
I used ONLY Remo all the time, I would call myself a Remo fanboy. Today I put a 14" Aquarian Texture Coated Power Dot on my snare and I am blown away by the built quality difference compared to a Remo head. I will try Aquarian Response 2 Clears on all my toms next time.....I am sure I will leave Remo soon, using only Aquarian.
From Aquarian to Reno it literally just sounds like from end to the other it’s just about how articulate you want your notes and if you’re like me who comes from a marching band background Aquarian wins for me
BEST. COMPARISON VIDEO... EVER!!!! Thank you so much for this!
I think Evans was not tune fully, pitch was ok but sustain was shorter due to not even tuning of rods or batter.
Evans is clearer and fuller sounding
Aquarian
I think they’re in order of preference from left to right. The Aquarian had the least amount of “echo” or “ringing” after hitting it. The Remo had the most.
Tom with aquarian heads fitted on seems to be tuned well.
How to determine my fundamental tones for a specific drum??