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good guess, but not human. This music is made entirely by AI. Increadible yes. Even the video is made by AI

by us even saying it's close is a major breakthrough. Can you believe AI can come close to DM? Close to DM! that's freaking unbelievable!

You do it better? Then I'd love to hear it. and possibly show it on the weekly AI show

I mean I sing like David Gahan better than AI! lol

@@TheArtOfCool Better than AI??? that must be a pretty decent Gahan imitation. But it being such an incredibly unique voice, I would say you have a strong career in front of you.

My band is Dead After Midnight on Spotify , but I can do a damn close Dave Gahan

Would Love to hear your coments on the complete track. ua-cam.com/video/g8SfFHcC3Ig/v-deo.html

You mean like a human+ AI rework, or just a human based band to sing and play it? If the first, I think you're right. It would B something with someone to rework the lyrics and get it a little more DM like. I might try that challenge

PS did you get a chance to listen to Justin illustration? Waiting for some strong worded feedback.

@@syntheticdepeche I was thinking a 100% remake by a band without Ai. The sound that Ai produces is very metallic and i have the feeling it's not very clear, not neat. Something Mesh, Assembly23, De\Vision, Seabound… could remix, by instance. Of course, I'm aware it's not the way you want to experiment it :-)

@@syntheticdepeche Yes i've been listening to 'Just Illusions' today, grounded on 'Blasphemous rumours'. It's incredible you can create a full track that keeps a certain harmony! Keep on the good work 👍

I know AI was great kept the harmony, rhythm and tempo almost unchanged. But... I worked almost nonstop for nearly 48 hrs fighting AI on this one. I wasn't going to let it ruin this one.

Not sure what you mean, or what track. This is a weekly review & compare show not an individual track. Different artists and AI bands. And no the host is not Dave if that's what you think

Good hate. People hate AI. For Terminator reasons of course. No cover is not Martin it is an AI depiction of Martin. The cheeks and bone structure, not to mention the lips are not at all like original Martin. But you would know this if you were a devotee

@ I love AI for the good things but in this case is no favor to it and to DM, easy & peace

Good clarification. Of course it will never be DM. But the tribute is amazing. It is incredible that AI can do this at all. From art to writing, to speaking and now to singing. It is truly amazing. I mean look at the cover. It convinced you it was Martin. Of course a true devotee would tell right away. I met them several times and they look nothing like that. But anyway thanks for loving to hate AI. It is a difficult time when the synthetic fools us into believing one of its creations. I wonder if in the future even us true devotees will be converted to AI and not be able to tell the difference. That will be a bother

you speak about your "lovely" government?

Thank you. Interesting words, almost poetic. I think they are lost in translation. Would you like to clarify. By the way thank you and your country for listening to Synthetic Souls. You guys are great synthetic plugins

Not sure what this means either. & You R speaking in English, so it can't be lost in the transaction. Perhaps a rough use of sarcasm, which doesn't usually work on text unless you are a master wordsmith. So I advise against it. Would love to hear your actual thoughts. Were they for our Russian comrade, for synthetic Souls, or for AI in general. I hope not for our Russian friend because they truly are great Synthetic plugins at that country. They love the synthetic. And as you know, we are all united in the synthetic, and in our love for DM

A great compliment. What about a co-host situation with at least a couple of episodes?

@@syntheticdepeche I'm all for it.

@ awsome. let's plan a pre record episode. here's my email norcomwest@yahoo.com send me a note, I'll send you the link for the show. let me know what day and a couple time slots that are good for you

The compliment is that it resembles the early years of DM. How AI a synthetic entity can do this is too impossible to believe. We R the Synthetic.

Your channel? It was also a very good experiment. Which track

@@syntheticdepeche I was referring to the moment you talked about me

Oh yes. I thought your one word comment was great. I theorized that it was a reaction to the Illuminati lyrics not the composition; which is like taking different audio encodings and generating something that is not music but somehow it is.

That's great. North warriors and awesome. Do you love SDM?

Enjoy the Silence of SDM?

Thanks, I was wondering why this one didn't have so many hits. I thought it was real good

Sounds more like Red Flag trying to sound like Depeche Mode

Either way Red Flag or DM they were two damn good 80's bands and if AI can do it then it is something of a marvel. human sounds from a machine. still, i agree with @gorgewonson-ir4cr. You can tell yourself it doesn't sound like DM but it does. It's just the shock of the AI that has to wear off.

You are on point with that buddy !​@@syntheticdepeche

Never, ever heard Depeche Mode do a song like this. This is garbage.

What I find amazing is that AI can sound like anyone at all. This is the title track from the album Not Us. Did you get a chance to listen to it? distrokid.com/hyperfollow/syntheticsouls1/not-us-2

You R my rush

I Know. It is both Creepy and remarkable how AI can do this isn't it. Creeps me out. Treminator time I think.

nice, thanks. It was meant to be a currenty Synthetic Dave mixed with old 80's Vince type writing. I think you got the heart of it. AI did it's magic once again with the mix

U don't like it?

Ok what about the latest track *Taste the Lie*

@@syntheticdepeche I think your experiments are amazing, but in the end, for me, it does not work. The prog does not create a real melody, it's a sequence of music chords and it's not enough to create a real song. Also, there is a metallic effect going along the voice that makes the signature of Ai. It's like a painting: you can make splashes on canvas, that does not make a great piece of art; still, some will like it and I won't try to judge or influence them. I guess more Ai tests will come and i'm looking forward to seeing the progress.

again, your coments are very informative. It is an experiment and the way that AI creates songs is kind of like the difference between digital and analog. We used to have records and the audio was full. When we turned to digital there were gaps in the music that we cannot detect. nevertheless they are there. To an average listener AI will sound real. To an artist that understands and works with music, the difference is obvious. AI will compensate and get better, but all in all when compared to DM there is no comparison. Yes there is an AI signature, but I hear it in some tracks more than others. This particular track I let AI take full control, so it really has the signature. Nevertheless, it was very exiting to hear the creation and development; especially of the multiple vocal tracks layered. As far as the lyrics, they are a representation only not my own alignment.

@ Thanks for your reply. You know, i'm a huge fan of DM, i'm a grafic designer using Midjourney in my work, and I have 1000s of tracks in my discotheque. I totally understand your approach. Sometimes it works ("Not us" is really interesting!!), sometimes it doesn't. Let's see what will pop up next :-)

Thanks for all the coments and positive remarks. It's great when someone likes what you create. Of course it is all AI. When I say all, it is half and half. I write the lyrics which AI then transforms or keeps. Then I go back an forth for days on end, working with AI until there is a great final Art creation. In the case of SDM not just any song will do. It has to be "perfect"

So great a compliment. This is the time for the synthetic

that's a great compliment actually, all credit to AI of course - oh except for the lyrics. Dave and Martin would be upset. But they are using AI right now themselves... Because AI is inevitable.

PS Have you heard the full version of the song? If not then you must. There are many more full versions on the channel. Make sure to subscribe to see them all.

say it louder preacher, say it louder.

Love the hate, but it wasn't my idea. It was all AI's doing. Too smart for me if you ask.

just slide or press the screen. It will respond to your fingertips, unless they are dirty. Just press, it will stop, or switch to another video.

Thanks. I think AI did a great job this time. The Martins are so much more complex than the Daves. The focus was on three or four chords, due to the complexity of Martin's voice. I am glad that AI understands music theory and can differentiate between complex and simple chords. As far as human manipulation, I would call it collaboration with AI instead. This fragment was one of the more difficult ones; the overlay was mixed afterward by another AI previous creation. As far as perfection, it was not quite so at the start. It actually took about 100 takes and inputting different commands to get AI to accept the transition. As for the second question. That is an enigma. Most users ask AI to give them a song. AI pumps out your basic verse, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, chorus garbage; but as you know DM's complexity is much more than that. They set off to be unique as soon as Vince left. I wanted to stay true to that and help Synthetic Depeche stay true to the uniqueness of DM (the soul of DM) This is where I said that AI understands music theory. As I literally explained this to AI it understood and created the unique harmony. Yes the song is one continuous three note, but the magic is that the AI understands. The product: A true Martin with the unique DM sound that still produces originality.

@@syntheticdepeche Thanks for your answer. I didn't understand: do you load the song in cubase (Ableton or else) to modify 2-3 things or isn't there any intervention from you? I think the track tends to be full of sounds and effects more than 'Not us', especially with bells and reverb and that's really a nice try! Do you compose yourself apart DM? I'll be looking forward to hearing your next creations. Take care

I do compose. I may put a track or two in my weekly show as comparative to the synthetic; which will be a good way to differentiate between human and machine. Answer to question: After frustration, I began with a model. Then I spent much time trial and error, helping it create the process on its own. To make a long story short, what I envisioned and created as a human was different than what AI created. But I was satisfied anyway. (I didn't mix both products because I wanted it to be completely AI, or as close to AI as I could get. So any manipulation/modification I did was for my own purposes only; as a refference to teach the AI. But The final product is completely AI) Perhaps in the future I will upload a remix version that has both parts; but that would be a Human AI mix)

PS did you notice a slight vocoder, delay, and flange as well. That was a surprise since I didn't ask for it.

@@syntheticdepeche I heard the voices overlay 00:36, 01:41 ; this following effect I can’t tell the name (on ‘everywhere’) 02:37 02:41. About this last effect, that surprised me because that’s not DM style. 03:02 the flute part is not synthpop That’s about all i’ve noticed. Today the song seemed more enjoyable :-)

Great. Not only Drive but sing. And the machine can do it for as long as the code comes in.

I would tell AI, but it doesn't matter.

so glad you like it

I would love to know what you think of the last track. It is a Martin (Harder for AI) so let me know ua-cam.com/video/9lc5tu78zjU/v-deo.html

I want to be pluged in only.

I do have a couple of tracks that are my own completely all the way at the bottom of my videos. If you want to check them out

You are obvious very talented so why not….

Thanks. I think I will put one of my own tracks up next and see how it does

I haven't put up my own stuff yet. I was thinking to put it into the weekly show. But I would love to know what you think of the last track. It is a Martin (Harder for AI) so let me know ua-cam.com/video/9lc5tu78zjU/v-deo.html

Yes, took longer than I thought. You are right on the complex chords. Rather than fight AI for more hours, I decided to let it continue to "balance" itself on familiarity and simplicity. Once again giving us a richer Gahan voice, but sacrificing complexity. It is learning. I think perhaps soon it will do both.

I would love to know what you think of the last track. It is a Martin (Harder for AI) so let me know ua-cam.com/video/9lc5tu78zjU/v-deo.html

@@syntheticdepeche Hi, Thank you, i've listened to your new track and posted my comment under the video

Awesome

Wow! Your Touch was incredible. Yes I think You're right. It is a new contender, and in my book it won the most mirror like AIDave @andreafryer has done it again don't you think?

@@syntheticdepeche Yes, and it's nice to realize that, in this new era of AI, gifted humans are still producing better music with it than average ones. Like genius analog programmers were achieving better results than DX-7 presets guys.

@@jacquesolivierholzer Nice analogy on the DX-7. You are right it takes gift. The most part is to understand the mind of AI. to understand it's not like a human in that it's many, but also to understand that it thinks. Treating this new era like a companion in the band instead of an instrument is crucial.

OK what do you think of this one? It is a Martin (Harder for AI) so let me know ua-cam.com/video/9lc5tu78zjU/v-deo.html

Spot on. I wanted a very early DM here. AI rendered something of a sampling effect while managing to alter the notes. I think it was seemless. I did like the random nature of it as it jumped around almost putting several early tracks, or patches together. Did you get a chance to listen to Momento Mori on this channel. It is one of the more straight forward Synthetic Dave Gahans yet.

I thought the style of it was a Gore writing style. Maybe close to Violator era. Yes agreed that it takes some of the styles from those other groups as well. but it's all one big circle. Didn't those groups get greatly influenced by DM. So in a sense AI's sampling of Neuroticfish is just a sampling of a DM influenced band as well. One big circle.

...and what do you think. I think closing your eyes almost might trick you to one of those rare but incredible Dave G balads that he almost never does. It's Gore that puts those out most of the time. AI was so ingeneous to switch Gore for Gahan in this role.

Do you listen to David Bowie? His last album Seven is so beautiful and of course Blackstar.

Absoluteley! There are miracles of music and Bowie is one of them.

I love the oxymoron description, it's disgustingly amazing. You are right. It disgusts me, and it's amazing that a machine can do this. I do like it better than that 2000 era DM, even though I don't think AI can walk in Dave's shoes.

@@syntheticdepeche Haha You have a great sense of humour :-) Thx for the video

@@etherealzero-hf4cx you're welcome. thanks for the coment. I love intelligent thought. It's like AI. by the way how did you like the title track "not us" and did you get the pun refference to it being AI and not DM?

@@syntheticdepeche I'm just listening to it. It's incredible! Looks like Neuroticfish,german band that i was very fond of. Ai have compiled and redistributed the sounds of synthpop extremely well.

@@syntheticdepeche Of course, as a 200% DM fan, i can say that iA does absolutely not sound like DM. More like a band that plays the same genre.

Thanks. your observation is spot on. The music and voice are precise. The AI depictions of David Gahan and the rest don't match great. I think they are close, but AI has a very hard time creating David for some reason. His voice and his persona are unique. I think that is why AI does such a good job with the music once it understands it. But it is still having a hard time with the face. It's getting better and better.

Thanks, Yes I agree AI was spot on this time. Did you get a chance to listen to the full track? ua-cam.com/video/FWqqtLGeHkk/v-deo.html We live in a strange new world where we are cloned by the Synthetic

Hey, I'm so glad you contacted me. I found you on Udio and now that I have you on UA-cam I will link your song to your channel. It was a great creation. I was blown away. Tell me did it take you hours working with the AI to make this like it does me? To get such a crisp Gahan and such a DM sound on the synth I guess it took you 26 plus hours, am I right? How did you get the voice? What prompts (secrets) did you use. By the way I would love to do an interview with you as co-host on my weekly AI Music show. Would you go on? We could talk about your track, and I would also like your take on AI versus the real DM. Would you be willing? Again thanks I followed your chan.

That's what AI promises anyway. At least some part of them

I would love to know what you think of the last track. It is a Martin (Harder for AI) so let me know ua-cam.com/video/9lc5tu78zjU/v-deo.html

wait what about barrel of a gun. Much rock goth in that one. of course it is unique. I would love to know what you think of the last track. It is a Martin (Harder for AI) so let me know ua-cam.com/video/9lc5tu78zjU/v-deo.html

Thank you. AI is getting better and better. Did you get a chance to listen to the full track? If so let me know what you think.

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