EmBani
EmBani
  • 5
  • 889 708
Sonic Adventure and "True" 3D Sonic
Sega has stated that 2021 will be the next big year for Sonic, and having yet received any tangible sign of things to come, many fans have been waiting in restless anticipation. After the disheartening turnout of Sonic Forces in 2017, which had a similarly long and quiet lead-up, the precedent was set that whatever's next may not even be worth the wait.
A Sonic Adventure remake is what often gets tossed around as a rumor and the remake-happy climate of video games currently makes it seem like the right time.
Not to mention it's the perfect place for 3D Sonic to realise the value of it's early design concepts.
Переглядів: 43 919

Відео

The purpose of the Sonic Boost formula
Переглядів 53 тис.5 років тому
With 3D Sonic at a once again tentative frontier thanks to the lukewarm reception of Sonic Forces, the boost formula debuting in Sonic Unleashed and further explored in Sonic Colours and Sonic Generations may very well be on it's last leg after it's 10 year run. In the wake of this possibility, I wanted to discuss the role it has served in the franchise thus far and where Sonic Team could take ...
Making Sonic Forces again
Переглядів 284 тис.6 років тому
Now I never have to think, play or talk about this game again. Sonic Forces is a game of multi-faceted shortcomings that fails to live up to it's predecessors such as Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations, setting a record low for the boost gameplay, and being released alongside Sonic Mania only helped to exemplify all these things. Today I want to examine what could've been done to give us the...
Sonic Forces in a nutshell or something
Переглядів 78 тис.6 років тому
This video is a dumb shitpost, don't take it too seriously. New editorial coming soon.
Adventure VS Boost Gameplay - A Sonic Diatribe
Переглядів 431 тис.6 років тому
So with Sonic Forces on the way there's been quite a bit of talk from various contingents within the Sonic fanbase about how the gameplay style it retains, seen in games such as Sonic Unleashed as Sonic Colours can be improved, and when offering solutions, many people will turn to the Sonic Adventure series as strong contenders for what Sonic Team should consider going forward. Here in this vid...

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @rednessgod5729
    @rednessgod5729 Місяць тому

    There’s sand everywhere!

  • @dittoplayz3183
    @dittoplayz3183 Місяць тому

    34:52 "Fuck these 2D sections" 💀

  • @mightymadness5355
    @mightymadness5355 Місяць тому

    ok! WHERE TO START! 1. SONIC FORCES IS ATLEAST ALREADY BETTER THAN SONIC 06! 06 just DOESNT FUNCTION, whereas forces ACTUALLY WORKS! besides, i see no reason to hate forces! sure classic sonic may feel a bit stiff, BUT THAT DOESNT MATTER because in forces, classic sonic atleast still has the OVERPOWERED spin-dash he had in generations, PLUS the addition of sonic manias DROP DASH, which PRETTY MUCH SOLVES YOUR PROBLEM, and furthermore, THE VERY FIRST GAME IN THE SONIC SERIES WAS A BIT MORE slow paced AND *PLATFORMING HEAVY* IN PLACES! so YEAH! i could go on about why sonic 06 = good, and sonic forces = bad, ARE BOTH THE KIND OF HOTTAKES THAT ARE KILLING THE SONIC FRANCHISE! 2. this video *SHOULD'VE* been titled "MAKE SONIC FORCES GREAT AGAIN!"

  • @reptilemark7346
    @reptilemark7346 2 місяці тому

    Amy felt great to use on SA. To me the best version of Amy to use but like he said she would be a lot better with increased speed and spin jump and triple dash. I'd love to see that because it never felt right playing as her and she's very slow yet is an interesting character design

  • @reptilemark7346
    @reptilemark7346 2 місяці тому

    Here we are... 3 years later... Nothing

  • @josejoao1621
    @josejoao1621 2 місяці тому

    I Think I have an idea to fix it. Bring back boost to be related to the rings. The more rings you collect, the more boost you get. This is just for the rings to have more purpose than just being there. Allow only for the boost to be used while he is running (not in the air, not while he is grinding, and not while he just walking). This automatically will bring back the need to initially bring momentum before using the boost (like there is a minimum speed he needs to reach before you can boost, and you would have to balance sonic while he is grinding. Stop using the boost as a means to run through everything. He is sonic, not super sonic. You would only be able to destroy things in front of you while using boost if you slide. If you don’t you get a hit, and loose all the rings. Keep the drift while using the boost. Improve the general control to feel more like the adventure era. You would get the best of both worlds… The boost would work as if sonic was just running supper fast and as an excuse to accommodate the control for high speeds. Also you can make his high speed less by using a clever cam technique that shakes and changes perspective slightly, which will create the illusion you are goi g super fast. It is a trick that many racing games use to save on map size. I think it would work great…

  • @lookatdemijipers
    @lookatdemijipers 2 місяці тому

    12:20 Sega was listening lol honestly, for my money Frontiers is the absolute pinnacle of 3D Sonic. as a fan since the Genesis days, it's everything I've ever wanted from a Sonic game and I can't wait to see how they improve on the formula in a sequel. I'm on my second playthrough, my first since they finished releasing new content updates, so I haven't gotten to see how the secondary characters play, but if it would have stayed exactly how it was at release I would have already been satisfied so I can't complain regardless

  • @lookatdemijipers
    @lookatdemijipers 2 місяці тому

    36:40 idk if anyone has pointed it out but where you heard it was speculation from the video you refer to in the beginning by shoogles (formerly ShayMay) lol

  • @seanerdzlolkinlord2478
    @seanerdzlolkinlord2478 3 місяці тому

    I imagine a timeline where eggman decides to take his every failure and use them all in tandem to take over the world. Then having megaman style missions where your custom character teams up with a mainline sonic character to takedown one of eggmans reused schemes ending with your custom character doing something to make your journey easier. Like working with team dark to takedown these looming ark satellites fighting through series 100 robots. Then finding that without sonic eggman switched to trying to surpass shadow with the campaign ending with your custom character teaming up with shadow to defeat eggmans attempt at an ultimate life form. Or imagine after all his dealings with Eldridgian creature eggman just says fuck it and starts opening holes in space time. Due to this your custom character teams up with silver and blaze to close up the portals. Before the campaign you’d have to deal with enemy’s from different dimensions spilling into levels randomly. Like helping knuckles take back angel island from neo metal and having super mecha sonic come in from the past. So doing the silver campaign first would get rid of a ton of references or cool fights but ultimately make the game easier. I have a ton more ideas but my main point is that if sonic team wanted to reference all the old games than just do it. Make it fun make it crazy or cringe even. Just something more than this bland boring stale excuse for a video game.

  • @punkypony5165
    @punkypony5165 3 місяці тому

    @1:02 this game looks absolutely perfect. Lmao that comment did NOT age well.

  • @NintendanGX
    @NintendanGX 3 місяці тому

    I'm glad that "Sonic doesn't work in 3D" comes around in the end and realises how blind he's been. That WILL happen in the anime, right? Right...?

  • @staticplays1871
    @staticplays1871 3 місяці тому

    I appreciate that this video is titled the purpose of the boost formula and not "the problem of the boost formula". small things go a long way

  • @Jakon527
    @Jakon527 3 місяці тому

    Even with the comparisons to Sin and Punishment and the boss battles of Sonic Unleashed, I’m still having difficulty imagining what an “on-rails stylish action” boost game would look like, especially when it comes to the drifting sections. Do you mind elaborating on that a bit more?

  • @sebastianhernandezvazquez4922
    @sebastianhernandezvazquez4922 4 місяці тому

    i thought if i can imagine a alternate version of this game i would made classic sonic more important example when eggman had sonic in custody he would hipnotized sonic to use sonic to attack his own friends so classic sonic would try to find a way to fre his modern self from eggman´s control

  • @TheKaiser416
    @TheKaiser416 4 місяці тому

    "Sonic has been known to bounce back in spectacular fashion" Oh, if only you knew XD

  • @MartianCreeper
    @MartianCreeper 4 місяці тому

    I expected this game to have online survival modes like riders before and other games, but with the avatar. Like using your own avatar and fighting others in a pvp or different gamemodes like capture the flag, etc. Shame that didnt come to fruition but hopefully, now with the success of Frontiers, they start innovating more for the next games.

  • @AlphaZeroX96
    @AlphaZeroX96 4 місяці тому

    Please don't compare the Sonic fanbase to ProJared and SomeCallMeJohnny. Those two guys are flawed. Ok so here's something I'd suggest. Don't focus on the story. Put that aside and focus on the most important aspects. Gameplay and content. Also, don't take out Classic Sonic's play style. Instead, have Tails take his place and make the levels more about flying. No, Infinite was not made as a reference to OCs. He's just another villain like Robotnik or old Shadow.

  • @kainthedragoon8081
    @kainthedragoon8081 5 місяців тому

    The distinct lack of amusement parks is what stuck out to me. Eggman loves building those tacky parks in area’s he conquers and yet there really aren’t any in forces

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 5 місяців тому

    21:05 now that just sounds whisitful

  • @theultimatememelord5494
    @theultimatememelord5494 5 місяців тому

    So does Mania not exist in this timeline?

  • @sonicuzumaki
    @sonicuzumaki 6 місяців тому

    Id love to hear his thoughts on sonic frontiers 😞

  • @elibonham4388
    @elibonham4388 6 місяців тому

    I feel like sonic 06 and sonix unwiished shouldve been discussed

  • @1992balto
    @1992balto 7 місяців тому

    I say I like how to make this game great again

  • @Tharja-iBW
    @Tharja-iBW 7 місяців тому

    This isn't a criticism, more of a nitpick. The Phantom ruby is teased to be sentient much like the chaos emeralds are, which is how it used the chaos emeralds to dimension hop to modern sonic's dimension. After which we see the chaos emeralds scatter once the portal opens.

  • @Chillipeffer
    @Chillipeffer 8 місяців тому

    Now I cry about the game not being as good as your concept

  • @caelkins6478
    @caelkins6478 8 місяців тому

    I've had the same idea! I've thought about how fun a Kid Icarus-styled Sonic game would be. Secret Rings and Black Knight felt like they wanted to be that but it wasn't executed well lol I'd love a fully on-rails, cinematic sonic game

  • @Il_Tizio
    @Il_Tizio 8 місяців тому

    I want a game with only the gameplay of the warehog 🥲🥲

  • @zomebody5529
    @zomebody5529 8 місяців тому

    Bro I'm so mad this game could've had the best Sonic story of all time alongside top tier 3d Sonic gameplay

  • @Wortwort-Spooderbat
    @Wortwort-Spooderbat 9 місяців тому

    Adventure 100 percent. It will not be topped

    • @yoshihammerbro435
      @yoshihammerbro435 7 місяців тому

      If it's that good then why is it easy to make videos criticizing it

    • @xXKillaBGXx
      @xXKillaBGXx 7 місяців тому

      @@yoshihammerbro435 Clickbait

  • @FFYears
    @FFYears 9 місяців тому

    Where is the clip at 16:30 from? I'd love to use that for internet post purposes.

  • @spooderman320
    @spooderman320 10 місяців тому

    57:52 bro... you literally just described Sonic Frontiers.. no way.

  • @mousetoons5514
    @mousetoons5514 10 місяців тому

    I played the game again later this week and beat it in 2 hours and 45 minutes

  • @mrsurge4789
    @mrsurge4789 11 місяців тому

    I genuinely like Infinite (backstory aside), I just wish the game he was implemented in wasn’t such a slog

  • @xxMars44
    @xxMars44 11 місяців тому

    that intro of 6 minutes is so fucking sick. congratz

  • @omarnsouli1555
    @omarnsouli1555 Рік тому

    yo man, any chance you will release a new video any time soon?

  • @wolef3344
    @wolef3344 Рік тому

    You almost perfectly described frontiers at the end lol

  • @Kookie_13_
    @Kookie_13_ Рік тому

    This has just come up on my recommended. I wasn’t a sonic fan back in forces days. I never realised. I feel so bad for everyone who hyped up that game. Anyway time to watch the rest of the video

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 Рік тому

    I got this from sonic guru productions witch is about gaven that sonic was tortured by eggman this could have change his character to be somewhat more like shadow he would have an edge and be scread and after a few missions the avatar would show sonic who he was convceing sonic to get back in action to restore the world

  • @hihi-nm3uy
    @hihi-nm3uy Рік тому

    12:30 How did you predict Frontiers..?

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 Рік тому

    Remember that Skateboarding and Snowboarding are 2 different things

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 Рік тому

    Boost mechanic was first introduced in Sonic Rush despite it being a 2D Sonic game but Sonic Unleashed is the first 3D Sonic game to have the boost mechanic

  • @jerma420
    @jerma420 Рік тому

    Cough Cough that one lava stage in frontiers.

  • @theanarchyknight8456
    @theanarchyknight8456 Рік тому

    Sonic Forces is a great allegory for communism. Great on paper, terrible in practice 😂😂😂

  • @simplyluke1584
    @simplyluke1584 Рік тому

    Both have their downsides

  • @kevin_kevinson
    @kevin_kevinson Рік тому

    Boost is midness. Adventure is peak

  • @KidAL0
    @KidAL0 Рік тому

    I want you to know that years later, your description of Rooftop Run at 14:02 still hits different

  • @RightNowsReverie
    @RightNowsReverie Рік тому

    I wonder how a meme like this with Frontiers will be like

  • @existential_narwal9257
    @existential_narwal9257 Рік тому

    I think that they can keep the boost gameplay but make it to where it's exclusive to specific levels like how Sonic 06 has its Mach speed sections. You can have your normal levels with more traditional adventure platforming, without boost, but then you could have these mach speed levels where sonic is given the boost ability in order to convey how sonic needs to go as fast as he can to get to the end for story reasons. (like eggman has planted a bomb in tails plane and sonic needs to run as fast as he can to warn tails or something like that)

  • @SlickEvan
    @SlickEvan Рік тому

    Whenever that MF DOOM song comes on, you know some heat is about to be said. Good ole rewatch of this video.