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@@johnndavis7647 I cast my bullets from 96-2-2 alloy. 96% lead, 2% tin, 2% antimony.

@RecoilTherapyChannel So, you are buying alloy somewhere? I've always used wheel weights with 5% pewter added. Water quenched Makes a pretty hard bullet. Been casting Keith bullets for over 40 years and have most of his books. I use just Wheel weights, air cooled, if I want softer bullets. I also shoot a lot of cap and ball revolvers and various muzzle-loaders. I use plumbing scrap for those things. Having a way to recover your lead and recycle it is getting to be something to think about. I have or have had most of the guns you are shooting. Getting a bit old and slow for high speed stuff now but still like to shoot and get out to the range when I can. Thanks for the video.

@@310vals I would increase the amount of oil a little bit like maybe five or 10%. Make lube cookies out of it by pouring it into a flat bottom pan say a quarter inch or 3/8 of an inch deep. Use a cartridge case to punch out cookies from the cake.

@RecoilTherapyChannel you're a genius those are great suggestions I will definitely try it thank you for replying also I love your content keep up the awesome work 👏

@@MarkJones-sk6vk I haven’t done anything with that in a long time. All spending right now is rifle focused. Not sure if I’ll get bank to that or not

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@RecoilTherapyChannel I really wanted to ask you about A bullet mold Steve Brooks 540 grn Creadmore or money? Something for a 45-70 and 45-90 Shiloh

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@ Steve makes great molds. Seems like a lot of the top guys are running money bullets. If you have 18” twist barrels (you would unless you ordered different), something running about 1.43” long about 540 grains would be perfect. Spec out 16-1, 14-1, or 96-2-2 alloy and you’re all set.

@@RecoilTherapyChannel how about 20-1 on lead?

@@dogbone1358 I use only straight black powder. Of all of the matches I shoot only the Quiggly allows smokeless powder. The other matches don’t allow smokeless in any form. I think that people used to duplex their loads 20 and 30 years ago before the recipe for black powder really got nailed down. Nowadays, I don’t think it would be worth trying.

@ The two advantages for using duplex loads include higher velocities (which could relate to increased accuracy) and cleaner barrels as the smokeless powder burns up the black powder residue. Meaning you won’t have to clean nearly as often. The disadvantage is increased recoil. For those matches that allow smokeless duplex loads they could represent an advantage.

@ not trying to be a Debbie downer but… Higher velocity with a 600 grain bullet is not necessarily a good thing. Further, higher velocity does not equal increased accuracy. Smokeless powder does not burn as consistently as black powder does. In our competition loads, we tune a load until we have an extreme spread of around 6 ft./s for a 15 shot group with a standard deviation of 1 ft./s or less. That level of consistency is not possible with smokeless powder. Last, there are no matches that allow duplex loads at all anymore. At least not in the western United States. There might be something on the East Coast, but I’m not aware of it. No one posts anything about duplexing for silhouette or target or anything. I started off the same place as you. I went to the Quigley with smokeless loads. My first year, I was convinced I was going to do well because my load was running 1450 ft./s and I was sure that it would beat the wind. When I left there after a week of shooting with those guys, I knew that smokeless was a hopeless cause. I immediately converted to black powder and honestly, I have not loaded a single round of smokeless powder ammunition in four years now. I really need to actually load some ammo for some of my pistols and stuff, I just don’t feel like doing it.

@ Thanks for the history lesson and sharing your experiences. Makes a lot of sense. I’ve been loading BP for two years in 45-70 for my Sharps, Rolling Block and High Wall. The duplex was enticing mostly from a cleaning aspect.

@@dogbone1358 duplex loads do shoot cleaner that’s true. If you’re thinking to try match shooting, there’s time to run wipers or patches between each shot and you’d want to do that anyway to keep a consistent bore condition. We tried an experiment last year at the Quigley early in the week. We chronographed loads and changed up the fouling control methods between wiping, blow tubing, and no fouling control. It played havoc with the velocity readings. Changing up your routine even a little can cause a velocity drop up to 30 fps, which is enough to have you missing low beyond 300-400 yards or so. Best thing to do is have a set routine and do it exactly the same every shot.

@@onebadapple83 yes. You have to mount the veggie water in there before you run the charge case through the compression die. Lots of people have done testing that determined that a .060 inch veggie wad is the minimum needed to prevent gas cutting of the base of the bullet.Subsequent testing also showed that an LDPE wad on top of the veggie wad resulted in increased accuracy.

@ Ok Thanks! One more question: The bullets I ordered have a copper….let’s say bottom. Vendor called it a “gas check”. Thoughts?

@ if you’re just learning to load black powder, gas checks are fine. They will cut down on any possible leading. However, commercially available bullets are probably not sized correctly for your bore, and the letter is likely to be far too hard. Still, for plinking ammo and fun shooting they should be fine. All of my 44 caliber pistol ammo runs gas checks although that’s what smokeless powder. Gas jacks are a better fit for smokeless.

@@srkmarine1 it should affect elevation more than windage. The total vertical spread generally reflects the quality of the load and the left or right spread is usually trigger and breathing control.

@@scb1851 Dorothy Stratton back in the day..?

@ close…but no cigar.

@@kingfatiusiii4744 my current load in 45-90 runs a 600 gr bullet. Not really suitable for a trapdoor but it wouldn’t necessarily hurt it. Black powder loading is not like smokeless. Your BP load is safe as long as the case is full up with no air gaps. You can compress a powder charge literally until the case bulges out and it will stay around 19K lbs pressure. If you have a loose charge of BP with airspace in there is when you can blow up the rifle. For your TD, you’ll likely need to slug the barrel. Most TD’s seem to run large on the barrel dimensions. It wouldn’t be surprising if you needed a bullet sized at .460” or even up to .462”. Slugging the barrel only way to find out. With a 16-1 alloy and properly sized (405 - 500 grain) bullet, you should see good accuracy out to at least 500 yards and probably farther.

@@srkmarine1 I have used both types of wipers and right now, I’ve gone back to just using a Montana Extreme jag on one of Eric’s Delrin rods and running patches. Two wets followed by a dry patch and the a chamber mop to make sure the chamber is dry. The wipers work fine, but I don’t like changing them out every night. The wool wipers you have to run through the washer so that’s even worse. There’s no rush with target shooting the way there is with silhouette, so I’ll probably be just running patches from here on.

@RecoilTherapyChannel Awesome, thanks for the info, and thanks for putting out some great BPCR content! I hope to make it to the Quigley someday.

@@jimjones9740 Buffalo Arms carries the Vickerman die which is very similar. Whidden does get ordered from Whidden Gunworks in Georgia.

@@peterkolovos3079 yeah Meal Team 6 is well represented

@@peterkolovos3079 I thought it would get more traction too, someone out there will find it useful though.

@@dogbone1358 all the rules, target sizes, winners, lists, and everything else can be found right here… www.quigleymatch.com

@@chriswhitehead5729 double check that the scope mounts are secure and absolutely parallel with each other. If it’s not a scope mounting problem, then you might look into having a gunsmith do a bedding job on the stock. I’m assuming the rifle shot OK with iron sights?

@@doctorbill6301 here you go…there are other calibers available as well. www.buffaloarms.com/slm-decapping-tool-for-45-70-slm4570.html