Відео

I thought this is urethane not poly

Sorry about your problems with Arm-R Seal. I recently use Arm-R-Seal on an oak counter top for use in my kitchen and it was easy to use and made a perfect flawless surface that was water resistant and looked great. I think I know what went wrong. After applying it, It is critical that you immediately wipe off in long strokes all the excess material you can. If you leave any on the surface you will get streaks. then dont go back over any section. I think that may have been your problem. Three thin coats and the finish is flawless. This is one of my favorite finishes because it looks natural and is easy to work with. The smell is the only issue indoors but it is milder than most other oil based finishes. Here is a great video on using Armor-R-Seal from Stumpy Nubs. ua-cam.com/video/v4NCxzNdNAw/v-deo.html

My only issue I had with Arm R Seal Satin was that it takes a whole MONTH to cure, even though it only takes a day to dry. Wasn't planning to add an additional month to my already 2 month project.

You should have applied it the same way you applied the monocoat....you were way to finicky when applying.

It's excellent product. You didn't keep it mixed continually like you're supposed to. So don't use a product, if you're not going to keep it mixed continually. My .02 👍

You have to put it in a bottle and shake it every time you apply it to a section or on a rag. Let the silica power mix!

Gotta use long even strokes in one direction. Not rubbing back and forth. Even better throw it in a spray gun and just spray it

You wouldn't have any problem if you sprayed with hvlp...I've never had an issue. On dark wood I've wet sanded after third coat and buffed out table tops. I've never had a problem and have been using it for years on fireplace mantels .

Arm-R- Seal needs to be spread out in larger areas at a time and much faster, especially on a piece that big. On something that large you actually should have dumped it on. Ive been finishing for 40 years and this is probably the best DIY finish available. When I do use it I use a foam brush but I have also sprayed it.

I have been finishing wood for decades and used the Armor Seal Satin for the first time a few weeks ago on a dining room table. The results the best, smoothest, and most even satin finish I have ever achieved. This product is not to be applied like most polyurethanes. I applied with soft cloth, then wiped off the excess within a few minutes. Sanded with 300 grit between coats. After 4 coats, I buffed with 0000 scotch bright pad. Results were perfectly smooth, even satin finish.

Appreciate the experience, however, I have had great success by mixing Arm-r-Seal with Mineral Spirits (1:1) and then do multiple coats....eliminates streaking and allows better spread time. Plus it allows you to build up multiple durable coats. B. Baker - Wisconsin Timberworks.

Should have sprayed it

Mafell is geared towards timberframing and heavy lumber. Festool is geared towards sheet goods and general construction materials.

Product iv had the most issues with is their water poly. I have to mix it with about 15% distilled water to get it to not be a complete disaster. Min wax if you can apply it right and avoid bubbles.. lays wayyyy smoother and more clear. Which at a fraction of the cost really annoyed me. If spraying it, maybe its a non issue other than the clarity.

A beginner should drop $1700 on a track saw?

Hello Thomas! Great video. I loved the fact you are not using very expensive tools and this table turned out amazing ! Now I like the legs, what is the place in Latvia called? Definitely subscribed after watching this and binging your other videos!

I use this product daily. It is a very good product. I brush on larger tables etc. the key with general finishes is that they are using in a controlled environment. I work in a open shop, but if I’m applying my last Coats of arm r seal. I bring the table inside. With the heat, it doesn’t gas out properly when drying and drys way to quick. Stir often when doing bigger pieces as well

Been refinishing as a hobby for about 25 yrs. Decided to use ARM-R-Seal rather than standard poly. Applied over sanded 220, then gel oil stain (1 coat). I really don't like ARM-R-Seal. Why? Application pools, requires going over surface multiple times, even wiping brush. Why? I used satin, and it's too shiny for a surface top. How many coats? Five. Every coat was too shiny. Excessive, yes. I kept what I refinished because it's only a chest for a bedroom, but I will not use it again.

An old timer once told me “It’s a poor man that blames his tools.” I’ve generally found that all finishing products work as intended. It is the level of patience that one has for the process that needs adjusting when results do not meet one’s expectations. There are finishes designed to be slathered on in one or two coats that work fine. No need to disparage a fine product.

i’ve just finished a 3’x6’ table with this product and it looks perfect. my guess is you didn’t stir enough to keep the flattening agent active.. or applied too much pressure. also the first few coats are likely to have streaks.. its really not until the fourth coat that it starts to look flat and even. apply that fourth coat super thin with minimal pressure and long slow wipes. obviously the natural products are going to look better but the durability is much lower. varnish requires a more professional application but when done well will last much longer and look great.

Arm-R-Seal is too thick for anything straight from the can. I always thin at least 10% with mineral spirits, 25% if I'm using my HVLP sprayer. For wiping I always use a microfiber pad being careful to not wipe too fast or leave too heavy a film. Speedy wiping will also cause streaking. Leftover product always goes into a "Stoplossbag" from Woodcraft to keep air out of the product. Always stir - never shake. Two coats, then sanding with 600 grit after the second, then wipe on a 25% thinned coat has always worked for me. I'll spray if grain runs are more than 48 inches long though.

One problem I noticed is that you weren’t keeping it mixed as you applied it. Any satin oil polyurethane product has flattening agents. In order to avoid a blotchy streaky finish with patches glossy and flatter spots, you have to have to keep it well mixed to keep the flattening agents evenly mixed and in suspension in the mixture. I use a magnetic laboratory mixer on a low speed to keep satin finish mixed as I apply it. For larger projects, it would be better to use the roll ant tip method. Roll it on and tip it off with a quality brush, maintaining a wet edge, and resist the urge to go back over areas too much.

No beginner should be buying Festool or Mafell. Yes they're the best, but you can buy a complete 'set' of blue, red, or yellows for that price.

I like your ambition but there so many holes in this argument. That sander needs a vac attached , and a planer is super important

I've never seen anybody pour arm r seal on the surface. It looks like you put it on way to heavy.

I have just used this for the first time also. It is the worst finish I have used in 12 years! I wish I had seen this before I just finished a vintage desk. I am not a professional yet I have been an avid hobbyist for many years. I have used GF Gel Stain and love it. I put this over a navy chalk paint from Annie Sloan and have been a fan of it for 12 years. AS has a great laquer sealer that does a fine finish also with no streaks. It comes in gloss or matte. Thanks for the video. I will try the one you recommend.

The table looked good before you poured stripper on it.. you didn’t really show us the issue on camera. Close up ? I can’t tell you we’re worried for your client. Maybe next time show it on camera the mistake ?

How about the Festool HK85?

It needed a sealer coat before the top coat you used. Disaster.

How come this dude did it just fine: ua-cam.com/video/_Lii2-_jwSs/v-deo.html

"I didn't have huge budget". *Buys a 1500 saw*

Humidity is your issue. I see you're in your garage. Please take it inside and run a dehumidifier in the room you're using. Please run an overpowered dehumidifier if you need to stay in your garage.

You should put few coats of gloss then put satin over it to get flat look.. if you wanna ever try again

Soon I'm buying either the K85 or KSS60. You think the 2 3/8 cutting depth isn't enough for the KSS60?

Just had the same problem with satin.

Damn bro is your shop in a room above garage? That’s pretty neat if so

I hate that you had a bad experience with Arm R Seal. I use it almost exclusively with my tables, desk tops and countertops. You are right, just like any finishing product, there is a learning curve. I get that this was your experience, and that’s valid. I just hope your viewers are not discouraged from trying this product because It’s really great. I always start with sealing the bottom of my pieces. It allows you to figure out the working time and work out the kinks before your on the money making side 😂

Thanks was so disappointed when I put a crap ton of picktails in a table top, but going back now with this idea.

A wax finish for a table top? That finish will be worn in areas in a year or two. You need some type of hardener in a finish for pieces like tables that get a lot of use. Beautiful color though.

I've used arm r seal satin for an unstained butcher block desk and stained red oak table top, and both times it came out great. I think the trick is to work in small areas at a time, so it doesn't dry out, and off excess you go. I work small 18" areas at a time, applying with a masonry sponge and wiping off with a clean t shirt.

I don’t know that guys problem wad, I used arm r seal on my 33”x94” plank table, applied with a rag, did 5 coats and it came out beautifully perfect. Take with a grain of salt what you watch

Not sure you applied it properly… I used this exact product on walnut and it came out beautifully.

One thing that I didn't see in the video was wiping off the excess after applying (step 2 in the application directions.) If you skip this step you can definitely end up with poor results. I find that multiple coats following the standard directions works well, but as you can tell from these comments there are many variations of application techniques that people use for Arm-r-Seal. I'm not sure any one technique is better than another, you just have to find one that works best for you.

I now know I have a brother in arms who shares my pain. Embrace!!!! 8’x4 foot dining walnut table. Do not use arm r seal satin on a table. Trust me, don’t do it. Use Rubio Monocoat 2c pure (or a tint if you want) and experience heaven. I wasted 2 damn weeks , applying Arm r seal, using light pressure, a sponge, a foam brush, mineral spirit soaked rag squeezed out. Flood coats, thin coats, medium coats. 4 cans in watched every video. I do tons and tons of finishing and all I can say is no no no. Is Arm r deal bad? No I love it! On smaller piece. If it’s bigger than 30x30” I don’t bother with it. Streaks, haze, constant stirring to get solids to distribute. Rubio Monocoat was 15 minutes, done. I feel like an idiot now!

Looks gay, I'm in

Arm-r-seal is the best product I've used so far for large surfaces. I'm in a dry climate and this stuff dries slower and smoother than any other finish I've used. The key is to apply it in long, unbroken consecutive strips as if you're painting big stripes with the grain. Don't apply it in square sections and don't try to add more product over where you've already applied it in an attempt to remoisten it.

What do you recommend to finish a large table that is painted black? Streaks free...

I was looking at this saw last night it is pretty pricey but it's power and depth of cut is unbelievable. Can you tell me all the tasks that you require of this saw?

You took too long putting it on, it was painful to watch, before you even said it was streaking, I was like, dude... you're taking too long its gonna streak. Its a large table, but you gotta be quick. Put it in a quirt bottle to put it on the table, spread it quickly with a large applicator pad. if you haven't covered the table in 1 minute, you took too long. stop fussing with it, apply, lightly wipe with the grain and leave it. Ive heard others recommend using gloss or semi-gloss for the first two coats, and satin for only the last.

I've used Arm-R-Seal gloss for years with no problems. I just did a 4x6 table with Satin. Even though I worked fast I still ended up with one area with streaks. I stumbled on to this video too late :-) edit: I was even using the "feather strokes" suggested below.