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It’s crazy how Warriors became more inconsistent and less realistic as the books progressed

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I'm reading arc 2 rn and why does no one EVER talk about how Stormfur had a crush on squirrelpaw like?? It's given me such cool animation ideas but I'm waiting to finish arc 2 before I start it lol

Tallstar goes to the Moonstone in his super edition- I wish they still kept this tradition, especially since the Moonstone is so much closer to their territories. Now it’s just Jayfeather telling warriors to stay away from it

I always prefer the vibes of the first series, they felt more like real feral cats rather than 4-legged furries lol. It seemed more mysterious, starclan really seemed more like deities than just another clan that lives in the sky (i never got why already dead cats can die again..like wtf?? whats the point of an afterlife then), they had more traditional customs, idk in more recent books it doesnt feel the same

Medicine cats are referred to as apprentices until the full medicine cat steps down i think? Alderheart is still considered jayfeathers apprentice, jay was considered leafpools until she was removed from her position I think a lot of the points mentioned are implied to be off screen just because of how much time passes in the first book? Into the wild passes through whats now about 3 books in an arc

no other baby has been that goated

About Smallear saying Firehearts deaputyship being a dark time for Thunderclan... He's... not wrong. Albeit for the wrong reasons. (Tigerclaw is the reason y'all got a leader with paranoid delusions and a Dog Infestation not Fireheart's botched ceremony)

Yeah, it’s pretty interesting how Bracken and Cinder get appreciated way before Bright and Thorn. I’m pretty sure this is the only time a queens had two litters in the nursery at the same time, and it’s not even explicitly stated. Honestly it’s probably just an author oversight

I love this video and love seeing people talk about warriors bc we're running out of warriors youtubers 😭😭 please do more! I'd love to see your opinions about the medicine cat code, the warrior code changes after A Vision Of Shadows and disabilities in warriors (such as Brightheart never getting an apprentice and most/all disabled cats being forced to become medicine cats even if they don't want to like Jayfeather) I REALLY want to see what you come up with!

More! Do more!

y'all should see the condition my copy of Into The Wild is in lmao..... god i miss this series, i need to do my own reread sometime soon

The father and multiple litters thing I disagree with Frostfur's first 2 kits weren't old enough to be apprenticed, Greystripe points this out so they are actually the same age as her other 2 and the fathers aren't mentioned most of the time because the kits weren't given canonical fathers until later on, and when fathers are mentioned they're almost always present.

The deputy thing isn't really mentioned again because they never really appoint deputies after a long time again, it's always kind of instant. In ThunderClan, Bramblestar names Squilf near instantly after becoming leader, The Impostor's deputies are named pretty quick and Squils appoints Ivypool before even getting her nine lives

I will always prefer the first arc. I completely agree with your point about it being more survival focused. It made them feel like actual cats surviving in a forest whereas in the later arcs, the characters felt more like humans than actual cats. I loved the stakes of arc 1. And oddly enjoyed character constantly dying, the clan struggling to survive under the pressures of changing seasons, the clans going to war over actual territory and hunting like cats actually would. While I do also enjoy the romance aspect of the novels, and do like knowing which cats parented which kits, I did enjoy certain queens having different mates and many different litters as again, it felt more realistic. The way I saw queens in the first arc were, cats who had either fallen in love with a forever mate and had kits or cats who specifically took on the responsibility of reproducing for the sake of the clan, so took on different mates to continue raising kits. It made the rank of queen seem like an actual defined rank. And the way queens in the first arc would help each other raise eachothers kits also showed the unity of the clan. This disappears later on, with the only exception being Daisy from what I remember. I also enjoyed the customs the clans followed as it just created a structure and routine to clan life while welcoming an audience to new traditions. It felt like we were exploring a new world and way of life, while the later arcs completely regress from a lot of the clans traditions, which again, has a more human feel which I personally dislike. In summery, I find arc 1 to be more natural and enjoyable while the later arcs although still good were a lot more superficial and kind of lost the magic that arc 1 had.

i remember at some point in the new prophecy the new moon was mentioned instead of the half moon

Most of the mentions of apprentices travelling to the moonstone that i've read happen in the super editions.

Warriors has kept appearing in my recommended even though I haven’t read it in YEARS. Maybe…maybe this is a sogn

FIIIINE, i‘ll reread the books after last reading them ummm 15 years ago

I’m taking this and running with it since I hadn’t read the first arc since 2018 when I was in 5th-6th grade and have taken it upon myself to make clan cultures unique to each other with unspoken agreements <3

don’t even get me started on all the traditions that just got lost to a lack of consistency ! it makes me so mad sometimes ! especially when they do predictions that never get addressed again (ie they dropped that there’s like THE clan (thunder , shadow etc) cat spirits and they had to get involved with something but then it’s never addressed again what they actually are interfering with)

I’ve actually always interpreted the Cinderpaw and Brackenpaw getting apprenticed before Brightpaw and Thornpaw as implying that kits weren’t automatically apprenticed at 6 moons and rather informally assessed for their readiness to become apprentices. Not that two of the kits were older than the second pair.

The fact that in the first arc, all she cats were a queen, even when they didn't have kits, like for example, they did call Spottedleaf a queen at some point.

Fool,I only read Firestar’s story I remember it all 😎

medicine cats can be apprentices with their full names- featherwhisker was for goosefeather

I am about to start my own youtube channel and as someone who was also a huge "warrior cats enjoyer" I am definitely going to dig into this series at some point. I was surprised; you were right, I actually didnt remember some of these inconsistencies and now it's bothering me haha

In “Outcast” leaf pool mentions that the rule of apprentices going to the high stones to become warriors had faded out of custom.

this is some good STUFF right HERE. loved listening to this! hope to see more content from ya!

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GIRLLLL, I recently had to take a super long road trip and I listened to the first 3 books on audiobook and after not reading the first arc since elementary school I was SHOOK

Please do more of this content!! I love it. New sub <3

WHY did they mention Midnight in EVERY book's allegiances when she wasn't even mentioned in the book except when she was actually there? I never understood like is she gonna be in the story?

One thing I noticed is that actually killing another cat becomes much more wrong as the arcs progress. Like in the first arc Redtail getting killed is a main part of the plot and I don't think anyone really mentions how messed up it is that someone killed him. Also there's times like at a gathering when Tigerclaw is telling the story about how he killed a cat(I cannot remember who I have not read the books in so long😭), it all seems much more normal. But then for example in the 4th(I think?) arc when Lionblaze kills Russetfur it seems way more shocking and there's cats talking about it and giving Lionblaze a ton of hate. And it's mentioned a lot more about how you should never kill another cat unless you absolutely have to. So yeah that's my input thanks for reading 😭

not having to announce the father of the kits is also smart because then queens could have kits with rouges/loners more often (or cats from other clans) without being questioned and bring better genetic diversity into the clan and prevent in-breeding which runs rampant in later books

i can really agree with you in the parents conversation. I always just assumed that the writers actually started caring about parents in OotS, cause it seemed like Dovewing often went to Whitewing for support, and in TBC with how much Tigerstar and Dovewing worry and stand up for Shadowsight when he was trying to be believed. Though i think the closest I've really seen to an apprentice and their mother being very close is Frostpaw with Curlfeather or Bluepaw with Moonflower. If you read the books where their mothers passed it really affected how Bluepaw and Frostpaw's chapters seemed, and you could tell there was much more grief in their thoughts afterwards.

I'm *still* unclear on if the half moon meeting is once a month or twice a month??? There are two half moons in a moon cycle but it's implied to be once a moon so how do they decide which half moon? Why is it never mentioned there are two????!!! I've been reading this series for like 18 years why am I so stuck on this

I think Crowfeather mentioned his journey to the moonstone at some point in the second arc

The fact that Warriors first and part of second arc is set in south Eastern England and then the rest is Northern England makes the weather confusing tbh. Cause the North of England has harsher winters than us in the South. But tbf the UK is generally pretty mild at the worst of times. Like it’s 20C today and it’s boiling to me but my gf (from North-East coast USA, think near/in New York-Maine area or something) and it’s nowhere near as bad for her. They have harsher winters and summers

This video is so well done I was surprised that you didn't have a follower count in the hundred thousands

in the second arc first book Mothwing mentions going to the moonstone as an app but never went inside to Leafpaw

this is going to make me reread the books lol

Warrior cats is so amazing for it to be 21 years old, ive been reading it for 7 years im now 17 :D i dont think ill ever stop or get rid of my collection. I have every single book and some.of the old covers even!

LOVE warrior cats sm more videos about it would be great :D

please make more warriors cats videos this was amazing to listen to❤

I need this, I have warriors trivia next week, thanks <3

thx 4 clearing that up. I never read warrior cats as a kid and am trying to learn as much as possible. I don't even mind spoilers.

Love this video!! Thanks so much for making it! Id love more!

i thought that cinderpelt was awarded her name as an honor when they thought she would pass away from being ran over. After that, they couldn’t take it back but still performed the rest of the ceremony

7:04 This only reminds me of the one internet comment that said "My head cannon is that the clan cats could produce asexually before Firepaw came to the clan, then they didnt want to confuse him so they stopped"