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Looks like the muffler mod 620 have the better chain on it. I had a Echo 590 befor the 620. The 590 had a muffler mod too and benefits a lot from it. Like the smaller echos that have a catalyst in the muffler. You need to remove the catalyst and then the saw wakes really up.

A ported 680 will outlast the 400.

Most saws start better without pressing the decompression valve. I bet the 620 and 395 would fire right up after 2-3 pulls if you didnt press it. I mean thats my experience on the Echos. The Autotune saws also starts pretty good when its negative, but they start terrible when its hot and you have used them.

The 680 is a slow cutting saw for this type of ccm. I would recommend a 8 pin rim. Specially in soft wood its boost the cutting speed up if you dont run a very long bar. If you going to use 18-22" 8 pin rim is better. A few years ago I switched from Husqvarna to Echo and some Stihl saws because Echo didnt have a bigger saw in Europe than the 680 at this time. Later I switched my Stihl 461 to the Echo 7310. The Echo 7310 have better AV System, better Airfilter, better handling, less weight... The 461 otherwise have more ground torque. Overall I hoping Echo is continue their way with the new style, airfilters, design and cylinder ports the 7310 and 4310 have. Would be nice if they bring a replacement for the 501SXH based on the 4310 as a pro saw. Also something in the 90ccm range would be nice but I think they need to sell far to much saws so its not profitable for them to make bigger saws then the 7310. Thats why the still make the 1201 for country s that dont have emission regulations. The 1201 was designed in the 70ths as 1200 and got a light make over in the 2000. Mainly used and sold in countries like Brazil where they need a damn reliable saw and dont care about they weight so much. Also the 620 need an upgrade too. If you pull hard when the bar got stuck, the airintake can get a crack. Other than the crack in the intake, I never had an issue with the Echo's. Even after 2-3 years in service the didnt show much wear at all. The Autotune and M Tronic saws need to replace after 2-3 years as a full-time logger because they start getting worn out and the electronic trys to compensate it. At the beginning you wont notice because the electronic can compensate for it. When the saw starts to make wired things, its already to late. You will have some serious wear in the cylinder and piston, wear in the AV springs and mostly with Husqvarna saws, worn out bolt-threads. I never have a loose bolt on Echo or Stihl saws. Dont know why Husqvarna cant get it right. Thank you for making this Video. Its nice to see the difference. Top notch would be if you have had used the same bar and chain on every saw, but yeah that would be a lot of work.

A airbox mode, muffler job, 15 tanks of gas, and tune really make these 2 wake up. A port and they are ass kickers, especially the 620. A 680 with all the mods plus a port and bored to 75cc would be so epic!

Bought one years ago because the manual oiler reminded me of the McCulloch 610. I use 20” and 27”. Just put 32” on and really like it. Great saw!

Yes Husky rules. I think a 50 cc is the perfect size saw.

The Echo CS 680 for the win because its a conventional carbed engine. No USB port, No Computer. All you need is a Philips to rebuild the carb. 🇺🇸🪵🪓🌲💚💚💚💚

Nice. What I do is combine 1 ounce of beeswax to 4 ounces of neats foot oil, heat it up in a pot, stir it, liquify it (don’t boil it), and pour it into a glass jar. In 15 minutes it makes an excellent paste which can be applied by hand to the leather. Works pretty darn good but it will soften the leather up some and change the color of the leather dramatically.

Thanks sharing and yes you can not beat this saw for the money

7310❤

All has to do with carb adj.

Good video man! Nice improvement with the mods. Bottom line, Echo builds good saws, but they are more in a class of their own. They are very economical, strong & reliable, but they are never fast. Perfect option for the weekender heating his house, but not the best choice for someone trying to save some time while making a living. I recently had the opportunity to run my ported cs590 against a cs620p. Both wearing 28" bars, i was pleased to see the 590 beat up the 620 with 15% - 20% faster cut times. A little shocked as well because the 590 still has the stock coil & carb, it's just ported with a muffler mod. Just for kicks, i grabbed my ported 562xp and made the same cut and found it to be 45% faster.🤷🏻 All in fun. After that i did not see the need to grab either of my modded ms400's but maybe I'll do that the next time? Keep up the great vids & saw safe man!

Reviews are only worthwhile if bias isn’t present. From the beginning I guessed where he was going. What’s bad on one saw is just the way it is on another.😂😂😂

Well, I just ordered an Echo 7310 P , so I hope it's a good saw. Need it for a big maple tree.

Just ordered the 7310. Time to watch your part 2 video you advertised on here.

Elm? Never seen elm with such straight grain.

I got one as well. Super reliable. I've done some mild port work on the cylinder, piston. Ported out the carbureter to breathe more air. Adjusted the fuel a bit richer. Drilled out some hidden holes on the side of the cover. Did mufler work. Did spark advance. It really woke up. They are awesome

Not a fan of Auto Tune on the 592 XP, I prefer adjustable, but to each their own. The X Series Echo are excellent Pro Saws. I have been Logging for mamy years, and it took my mechanic 2 years of ranting to get me to pop on the 620 and the 7310. Outstanding Saws, never thought I would like anything but Husqvarna.

I came to see what all the dull chain is about 😂

I like my STIHL MS 400 C

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Most well built, no fuss, reliable saw in production right now. Tune it a bit rich, and you can't kill it.

Race those two again in 10 years. Bet the 680 closes the gap drastically, since the 400 will not be in service. Can’t beat the reliability and build quality of the 680.

Is the muffler modded on the 400?

Saw sounds good

I think if you had not used the de-comp on the 620 it would have started quicker, I could hear that valve seal up the right before it started. My 365 X-torq starts in 3-5 pulls down to about -15c, beyond that I give it a couple pulls with the choke on and the ignition off for a primer. Not sure how much benefit there is on a saw, just a habit I picked up from starting sleds when its really cold.

I dont notice that weight difference in a firewood saw, thus every time I've went to buy a 60cc saw I've walked out with a 70cc. Limbing with either is a bit of a chore, I sometimes use my 345 for that but a real sharp axe with a good operator can limb/ top green timber just as fast. Within the scope of firewood, I dont notice a few lbs felling and bucking. I like a saw with some low end grunt though, important to realize that we arent pro fallers, and what we need out of our saws can be a bit different.

When they are stock, a 395 has nothing on a 592.. the 592 eats its lunch. But ported by a competent saw-porter? Well now the 395 shows who's boss! 11hp is easily attainable in a work-saw 395 whereas a 592 tops out at 10hp ported.

Avoid the electronic carb. It ends up in the repair shop more than in the woods

Cool video editing! The build quality and a 5 year warranty let alone the simplicity of the carb yet has a nod to the Echo!

I picked up a 400c a year ago and love it. One question when I’m running got I have a 20” bar and when I’m cutting it sounds like the the motor adjusts when I am cutting though a log the pitch changes tone. It this the motor adjusting? I have it running full throttle.

Buy the Stihl. Especially if you are not cutting cookies in a back flat yard. You pay extra for the Stihl but get a much better saw that is powerful and light. There is a reason why Pros pick Stihl or Husky.. You can likely sell the Stihl 400c for near what you paid for it in a decade or two. Echo is a great deal but are heavy and not as powerful and nimble...that is why Stihl cost more and is bought by the Pros. If you are a homeowner or week end warrior than the Echo will be a great saw. I have an Echo I run but my Stihl 440 I bought in 2007 is my go to saw and blast the Echo out of the ball park. The 2007 Stihl 440 has been used tree farming, commercial logging, and for firewood. I have run a 32 bar on it for big trees. It is just getting broke in I figure after 16 years. It cost $709 in Jan 2007 and worth every penny and I could sell it for close to that now.

4 lbs for a heavy user/Pro is a huge difference. Pro guys will spend hundreds for a slightly more powerful saw that weighs even a pound less. The Husky 572 weighs around a pound or little more than a Stihl 462 and the Pro guys make a big deal about the difference. Strap a one pound soup can on a saw and you will fell it after a few hours. For most home owners and basically most people a pound will make little difference but I think 4 pounds does. My echo 370 is I think even less than 3 pounds lighter than my Stihl 440 though and the 440 blast through anything ... in the case of my 440 the 3 or 4 lbs is no biggy because I can cut way way more wood with the 440. Great video and you have me giving the Echo 620 a look see because the chainsaw builders have been giving themselves huge pay raises in the past couple of years... including Echo. Have you seen how Echo hiked up the price of the 7310...geeez. I think people from Echo have been hanging out with people from Husky and Stihl!

pretty heavy though. at 14.5lbs I bought a dolmar ps7900. I do like the manual oiler option. those saws are hard to find up north. Looking at a poulan 3400 or 3700. 56cc and manual oiler to. cheap now but super well made

Are you running a skip chain on that 32 ? Or full comp ?

I really like my 620p but, after the 1st tank of fuel and looking at the airfilter it was easy to see it was sucking in more fine debris than was being filtered. So, shame on Echo for 6+ yrs of this sorry excuse of a filter without providing a fix? maybe just with an o-ring & spacer kit for the original owners of these model saws just to save face and would've done more for the (Echo brand) than the 5yr warranty with a leaking alleged (pro saw airfilter) that should've been redesigned several yrs. ago? A pro saw should have a adequate pro saw filter in my opinion, especially.. if you want to compete with the 2 top dogs. I hope some of Echo's big shots read this comment and keep it in mind for the future if they really want to stay on top of their game??? I also own a Echo blower, 1 cs 3510 and 2 cs 370's with proper examples of a pro style airfilter like on the 680

Thank you, I love echo better ❤

Thanks for the information.

Second time I watched this video. Great review!!

I have two of them and one of them is when they first and still run with no problems

Were you driving up to Huntington Lake from Big Creek?

Was hoping the 400 wouldn’t have whooped the 680sass so bad

Would you take the echo 680 over the stihl MS 400?

Saws cost more in Ohio? At least my area.

La 400c è quasi 70 cc... Non puoi paragonarla alla 562 che é 60cc... La 562 con la 362 e poi vediamo

My very first saw was a Stihl 170 with a 16” bar, that I still use for storm damage,an 036 , and a Stihl 400 c 20” bar.

I bought the 680 based on your videos. It's been a great saw so far!

395xp is a beast l.

Frozen wood is so much easier to split than green wood.