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Thanks for the comment! You will do fine if this is your first marathon. Although there are some hills, it is not all up hill the second part of the race - there are just a few incline sections. For the most part, it is relatively flat. It is also way flatter than the Kansas City Marathon, so if you had to pick between Garmin and the KC race, Garmin would be a better first race to tackle. If it is your first marathon, I would just recommend taking it easy and focusing on completion. You don't want to run out of gas early in the race. There are also pacers with flags, so if you are going for a specific time you can link up in a pacing group at the starting line and they will bring you in at that time, so long as you keep up with that group. When I ran my first marathon, I kept it really easy and focused on completion because, up until that point, I had never ran more than 18 miles in a single session. I finished at 4:17 and felt like I had a lot left in the tank, so I did the same race the following year and came in at 3:45 because I had the experience and knew how I should feel at different parts of the race. If this is your first marathon and you are not a seasoned distance runner, I'd just recommend enjoying the experience and taking it easy. If you are going for time, I'd recommend linking up with one of the pacing groups at the starting line. Best of luck!

Great seeing you out there! No shame in a DNF, especially in this weather. You’ll get it next time.

Thanks for your comment--I'm glad you found the video helpful. Great to hear you will be running the marathon next weekend, and congrats on it being your 23rd full marathon. I don't use a stick, just my hand. But I run with a running vest on, which I use to store my nutrition. So when I'm not using the GoPro I just zip it into one of the side pockets on the running vest and I don't even notice it is there. The vest I use is the Salomon Skin Pro.

The aid stations on this course are fully stocked and have volunteers working them, so they have everything you need for the most part. Food, water, etc. Usually before a race like this the race director sends out an email with an overview of where each aid station is going to be and what items will be there, so you know ahead of time and can plan accordingly based on the distance between them. You can also do drop bags if you have a personal nutrition preference that doesn’t align with the items they’ll have at each aid station.

Thank you!

Thanks man, awesome seeing you out there as well. Been on the lookout for your recap video - can’t wait to watch it once it’s released.

Hi Chris. I ran the first lap (25 miles) without any walking. After the first lap I took a 5 minute break to use the bathroom and grab some food/items from my drop bag. During the second lap I ended up walking the steeper hills to keep my heart rate in check, while running downhill and on the smaller inclines. So, all in, I'd say it was probably about 80% running and 20% walking for this race.

Thanks! It’s a great marathon for a first one. You should definitely sign up this year-good luck!

Thanks man. We met at the 2019 Nighthawk-I still have the wristband you gave me promoting your channel. Looking forward to seeing you again at a future race.

@@davidsrunningvlog7679 Thank you. Sorry my memory fails me sometimes.

Thanks! Glad it was helpful. It's a great race--one of my favorite 50 milers. Best of luck out there.

Point-to-point is a lot of fun because the scenery is always changing. I definitely prefer a course like this over a looped one. You should definitely do this race--I believe Clint Bond is going to be running it this year. I will likely do it again in the future. This June I'm heading back up to the Black Hills to do the Black Hills 50k (which also has 50 mile and 100 mile options). That course is more technical than Lean Horse, which is a nice rails-to-trails course.

It was miserable haha. Thing is, the average temperature this time of year is usually low-60s and the hottest day ever recorded was 93 degrees prior to this. Unfortunately just happened to be the hottest day on record which is just bad luck. So now I have to go back and try it again. This race is held twice a year, so I may do the spring one next year.

@@davidsrunningvlog7679 if you really want to get crazy, check out the Habanero 100 here outside of Houston with Trail Racing Over Texas. I did a video on the 50k last year. And, for some reason, just signed up for the 100k this august. :)

Hey thanks, appreciate it. I just subscribed to your channel. I really should get down to Texas sometime for a race. Amazing that the first ultra you did was the Pikes Peak race. I did the Pikes Peak Ascent a few years back and that was just a race to the top of the mountain. I can't imagine going 50 miles there haha. Impressive.

Haha--still need to get you out on the trails to tackle a 50k one of these days.

Thanks Joel--and congrats on your 50 mile finish! Impressive work out there. Welcome to the world of ultra. Hope to see you at another event in the area in the future. If you are considering another 50 miler, there are some good ones in Kansas like the Flint Hills 50 and Heartland that are definitely worth checking out.

Thanks man - gonna aim to come under 5h 15m in that race if I can. Resting up for the next two weeks to recover from this one, then will start my training for Mile 0! See you in April.

Thanks! I’m glad it was helpful. I’ll be out there as well but running the 50k distance again. Say hello if you run into me on the course. Best of luck on your 100 miler!

Thanks! Appreciate the comment. Glad you found the race video informative. It's an ideal first 50k because it's not too technical, just make sure to get in some good training runs on trails and you should be totally fine. It's a really well-organized race. I'll probably run it again this December, so you may see me at the starting line.

@@davidsrunningvlog7679 that would be awesome! If I make it out, I'll be sure to look for you!

I think it was probably more like 4%. I was talking to a bike rider from the area on the trail and they told me it was 7% but when I researched it afterwards it looks like it is sustained around 4% but does go slightly above that for some stretches.

Thanks! I love it out there. The Barr Trail was a blast. A few years back I did the Pikes Peak Ascent, but the altitude really did a number on me once I got above 11k feet so I’m not sure if I can tackle the marathon. Best of luck on your July PR attempt. Next time I’m in Manitou I’ll have to go for a PR now that I’m familiar with the Incline. I had no idea what to expect but it was a lot of fun.

The weather is totally unpredictable. When I ran it last year it was 100 degrees and brutally hot, but the year before it was in the 30s and hailing. Someone posted a video of that year online and they were just getting pelleted by hail for miles on end. However you could luck out and get an overcast 60 degree day. I need to go back and do it again since I DNF'd last attempt.

Thanks! The weather was wild out there. Congrats on your finish.

Thanks! It was pretty gnarly out there. First lap was manageable due to snow but second lap it started to get really muddy as you can attest to. Third lap was just crazy and like running in a river. The 20 mile race was probably a good choice that day. I don’t think anyone was setting any PRs out there haha

Thanks man! Hope to see you out on the trails soon. Gonna try to make some of those Thursday night group runs you mentioned.

Nice! It is a great race. The weather is usually perfect too.

Haha no, I wish. This race was several distances: half marathon, full marathon, 50k, 50 mile, 100k, and 100 mile. They all started at different times, so I think the timer at the end was reflecting one of the shorter distances. I came in at over 10 hours, which is a far cry from under six

@@dfmitchell330 well that's still super impressive!! Well done!

@@dfmitchell330 I'm running the 100 mile at the same course in a few weeks. Any sage advice?

@@jeffspicoli763 Nice! I’m doing the Heartland 50 miler this weekend, and it’s going to be in the mid-90s so not sure how that’s gonna go in the heat. The Kansas Rails to Trails course is great for 100. Is it your first attempt, or have you done a few before? The reason why this course is ideal for 100 is because it is flat as a pancake. You aren’t going to find many courses flatter than this, and the weather should be nice and cool. It’s also not on technical trail, so you don’t have to worry about uneven terrain, rocks, etc. Plus the aid stations are great and there are numerous volunteers out there. So it’s a great course for a beginner or someone experienced looking for a personal best.

@@dfmitchell330 nice! Good info. I've never done an organized ultra, but I ran 50 by myself last year. Took me about 12 hours, but I hadn't trained much. I've been training for this 100 all summer/spring

Nice! Congrats on finishing your first ultra. What's the next race on your calendar? I'm thinking about doing the Heartland 50 in the spring as my next 50 miler. In the meantime I'm signed up for the WinterRock 25k in a few weeks.

Thank you!