I just realized this scene serves as an ironic comparison to Mufasa's death. Mufasa sought help from Scar, only to be thrown to his death. Zira refused help from Kiara, and allowed herself to fall to her death. Double irony is that its Kiara in Scar's position.
They should have kept this in the film. Because it teaches children that sometimes bad people will choose darkness ultimately and that not everyone can be saved no matter how hard you try. It would of tied well to the scenes of the movie cause it can ultimately teach the moral that yes you can save some who were raised in hell but not everybody in darkness will choose light
I picture my version of Roxas to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he slaughters, in his memories, everyone he has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
I picture my version of Roxas to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he slaughters, in his memories, everyone he has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
This movie could have been 5 times better if they kept the damn scene in the film. It makes Zira MEMORABLE. Sure she’s terrifying but she never had the 1 scene to make her stand out. Self suicide is something you don’t see often with villains. She’d rather be with Scar, against the circle of life than to try again and start over. Sick.
I picture my version of Roxas to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he slaughters, in his memories, everyone he has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
>Clayton gets lynched by vines >Sykes gets run over by a speeding train >Sykes's dog gets electrocuted ON-SCREEN by a third rail >Scar gets eaten alive by hyenas >Syndrome gets pulled through a jet turbine >Rourke's body blows up But Zira falling into water on purpose is apparently too dark?
SIMBA: Let it go, Zira. It's time to put the past behind us. ZIRA: I'll never let it go. The same would happen in Roald Dahl's book Matilda. If someone tells the Trunchbull to let go of her hate, she'll instantl say that she'll never let it go. That is why exile is her only choice.
Since they just cut to Zira falling with a grin still on her face do you think that means the original scene actually was fully animated but cut at the last minute before the movie was released on video and dvd? Imagine if that piece of lost media surfaced one day. They didn’t redraw the scene, they could’ve given Zira a look of terror instead but since she goes down smiling I think that means it was all finished but cut
I love the sudden showing of the River at 0:25, Really Shows us Zira’s Dark thoughts. 0:23: Should she Give Kiara, Her Paw? Forgiveness. Or should she….refuse? …………..0:29 No.(Hate) Never….This is for you Scar…..0:34
@@Getstr8cash And then Brad Bird is like "F that" and includes a suicide attempt in "The Incredibles", and Kevin Lima has the main villain getting hanged in "Tarzan"
Zira thoughts throughout this:Kiara reaches her paw down Zira this lioness the daughter of my sworn enemy is offering help I would rather die mabye I can harm her as a last effort tries to swat but misses Kiara still offering help zira:how will I get out of this situation without accepting her help I can’t accept it it goes against everything I stand for wait what does everything I stand for mean at the is point my beloved scar is long dead and his ideals are forgotten 2 of my children betrayed me and my only loyal one who I ignored and mistreated is now dead my army left me for my enemy my loyal followers are now hated traitors nobody believes in scar anymore besides me Kiara still offering help zira looks down scars name matters if scars name is meaningless my life is meaningless too wait at least if I die I can be with my beloved scar again and see my poor Nuka Kiara still offering help if I can’t rule the pride lands I won’t exist in it note I believe even in the actual one zira still let go willingly she had that smile they just cut out the no never so it went over everyone’s heads anyway zira makes her decision and let’s go to join her beloved scar as she’s drowning she’s so happy doesn’t even try to pull herself out
There's so much weight behind the "never" like you're never going to help me, id rather die then accept your pride or move on from my goal. Id rather die with Scar then live amongst you all. Her hatred was that strong, her commitment to Scar was all she knew, like a cultist offing herself because the leader deemed it so
I actually wish they kept this in as it makes so much more sense to her death scene. In the actual film she's slipping and looking terrified, but once she's falling into the river, there's suddenly a smile on her face and I always found it strange. This deleted scene explains why she was smiling as she fell to her demise
At least Zira is no doubt better than scar she may be very evil but at least she has honor and morality and self respect when Simba had scar at his mercy scar was coward enough to plead for mercy and use the family card even though he killed his own family and turned on simba the second he gained the advantage when the hyenas surrounded him he tried to beg his way out if it was scar he would have accepted the paw but the second he was pulled up threw kiara off Zira is honorable enough to reject help from her enemy and accept her fate rather than use her enemy to get out of it and betray them
@@FlashBiduan well done at least Zira has actual ideals like her strong undying loyalty to scar scar on the other hand had nothing he just wanted to make his life easier and never though of anything else he would have sold out anyone for his goals any ideals he may have claimed to have were all for show Zira died as an honorable warrior defiant to the end scar died as a lowly coward who had nothing
@@FlashBiduanbut despite this scar is more open minded than zira since in lion guard lions of the outlands she mocks Kion for having a lion guard not made of lions and shows racism towards the hyenas scar on the other hand allows any animal to be in his army he doesn’t care if it’s a hyena,snake,or a jackal and he never mocks kion for not having a lion guard made of lions he immediately accepts the new lion guard and considers them a threat so at least he’s not a racist everyone is equally worthless to him zira has better morality scar has a better mind in a sense of intelligence not in morals
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376you’ve got the wrong comment section this one is only about zira having more morality than scar you want the promo for the new movie or something but feel free to leave another comment about this here
I was just thinking of this scene in a biblical sense, “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in Heaven.”
When I watched the FINAL version of Zira's death, I felt that something was wrong with two of the scenes coming straight after each other (a shocked Kiara and a smiling Zira falling to her death)... they kinda lacked a transition, it looked like the beginning of Zira's last moments were cut off! Am I the only one who got that feeling while watching Zira's death?
If this was in the final product then this would be the darkest sequel Disney has ever made. I guess if they added this to the final product then this film would have recieved a PG or R rating.
@@qtee8557I picture my version of Roxas (?) to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he (?) murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he (?) slaughters, in his memories, everyone DiZ has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
@@Elysia63 Bet she deeply cared about Scar which could be why since they're partners or even boyfriend and girlfriend and why she was so determined to avenge him.
@ChristmascliffeI don't know if Nuka is in Hell or not considering he was on the villain's side who only wanted to get his mother's love and attention.
I prefer this version because it's not only in character for Zira, but because this may have been foreshadowed when Simba said to Kovu "Scar couldn't let go of his hate. And it destroyed him." . And guess what happened to Zira here.
It was so repetitive, but in a spine chilling way. It was basically the death of mufasa all over again which makes it a full circl- Oh.. NO WAI- "IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIIFEEEEEE!!"
This is basically a suicide, thats why its cut from final product
I saw the colored one on tiktok 😂
Atleast now they're together ❤
I just realized this scene serves as an ironic comparison to Mufasa's death. Mufasa sought help from Scar, only to be thrown to his death. Zira refused help from Kiara, and allowed herself to fall to her death. Double irony is that its Kiara in Scar's position.
Simba: Don’t move Zira Let us help you
They should have kept this in the film. Because it teaches children that sometimes bad people will choose darkness ultimately and that not everyone can be saved no matter how hard you try. It would of tied well to the scenes of the movie cause it can ultimately teach the moral that yes you can save some who were raised in hell but not everybody in darkness will choose light
I picture my version of Roxas to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he slaughters, in his memories, everyone he has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
Get you a woman like Zira. She was a true ride or die to the end.
I picture my version of Roxas to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he slaughters, in his memories, everyone he has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
This movie could have been 5 times better if they kept the damn scene in the film. It makes Zira MEMORABLE. Sure she’s terrifying but she never had the 1 scene to make her stand out. Self suicide is something you don’t see often with villains. She’d rather be with Scar, against the circle of life than to try again and start over. Sick.
I picture my version of Roxas to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he slaughters, in his memories, everyone he has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
>Clayton gets lynched by vines >Sykes gets run over by a speeding train >Sykes's dog gets electrocuted ON-SCREEN by a third rail >Scar gets eaten alive by hyenas >Syndrome gets pulled through a jet turbine >Rourke's body blows up But Zira falling into water on purpose is apparently too dark?
Good now she's gonna be together with scar in hell🙂
0:37 0:29
0:32 That face says it all. It was already too late to save her.
SIMBA: Let it go, Zira. It's time to put the past behind us. ZIRA: I'll never let it go. The same would happen in Roald Dahl's book Matilda. If someone tells the Trunchbull to let go of her hate, she'll instantl say that she'll never let it go. That is why exile is her only choice.
Since they just cut to Zira falling with a grin still on her face do you think that means the original scene actually was fully animated but cut at the last minute before the movie was released on video and dvd? Imagine if that piece of lost media surfaced one day. They didn’t redraw the scene, they could’ve given Zira a look of terror instead but since she goes down smiling I think that means it was all finished but cut
I find it funny how Zira thought it was a good idea to literally die rather then to get redeemed lol, she just sacrificed herself, she’s just dead.
OK and?
@@CharlotteMacrickens was trying to make a point lol
I love the sudden showing of the River at 0:25, Really Shows us Zira’s Dark thoughts. 0:23: Should she Give Kiara, Her Paw? Forgiveness. Or should she….refuse? …………..0:29 No.(Hate) Never….This is for you Scar…..0:34
Zira is the only Disney villain who choose to die
Anyone here after watching black manta's last scene in Aquaman 2
Me. Not only that, but there's also a submarine that almost looks like ship from Atlantis: The Lost Empire.
@@foxshock5571 you're right! I guess james wan really loves disney movies huh?
YES THANK YOU, I KNEW I WASN’T THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THIS!!!
Why did they remove this scene
Too dark and creepy for a kids film
@@Getstr8cash And then Brad Bird is like "F that" and includes a suicide attempt in "The Incredibles", and Kevin Lima has the main villain getting hanged in "Tarzan"
They forgot take out her smile
This is kinda creepy I see why they didn’t go with this
Zira thoughts throughout this:Kiara reaches her paw down Zira this lioness the daughter of my sworn enemy is offering help I would rather die mabye I can harm her as a last effort tries to swat but misses Kiara still offering help zira:how will I get out of this situation without accepting her help I can’t accept it it goes against everything I stand for wait what does everything I stand for mean at the is point my beloved scar is long dead and his ideals are forgotten 2 of my children betrayed me and my only loyal one who I ignored and mistreated is now dead my army left me for my enemy my loyal followers are now hated traitors nobody believes in scar anymore besides me Kiara still offering help zira looks down scars name matters if scars name is meaningless my life is meaningless too wait at least if I die I can be with my beloved scar again and see my poor Nuka Kiara still offering help if I can’t rule the pride lands I won’t exist in it note I believe even in the actual one zira still let go willingly she had that smile they just cut out the no never so it went over everyone’s heads anyway zira makes her decision and let’s go to join her beloved scar as she’s drowning she’s so happy doesn’t even try to pull herself out
now i understand why she was *smiling* when she fell in the original movie release
There's so much weight behind the "never" like you're never going to help me, id rather die then accept your pride or move on from my goal. Id rather die with Scar then live amongst you all. Her hatred was that strong, her commitment to Scar was all she knew, like a cultist offing herself because the leader deemed it so
Zira was a good woman. She was loyal to her man until the end.
@@PotatoSlices just because you are loyal doesn't mean you are good. Hitlers followers were loyal till this day. Does that make them good people?
@@Thecandyquinn yes. For more reasons than just loyalty, but, yes. They were loyal to their cause until the end.
@@PotatoSlices you are literally a slice of potatoes you wouldn't know good if it fried you and sold you at Burger King
@@Thecandyquinn that's the most clever thing you could come up with?
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I just watched the deleted scene for the first time. And it gave me actual goose bumps. Jesus Christ that is dark and intense.
Somewhere in that raging river, Nuka's corpse is getting tossed around. :P
I actually wish they kept this in as it makes so much more sense to her death scene. In the actual film she's slipping and looking terrified, but once she's falling into the river, there's suddenly a smile on her face and I always found it strange. This deleted scene explains why she was smiling as she fell to her demise
0:12 Why I was dirty minded?!😭
Really Bro?
@@dillianvinci7827 Of that sound
@@Adolgao89 I know. She is groaning not moaning.
@@dillianvinci7827 Yes,but it sounds like that
@@Adolgao89 I’m not gonna lie it does.
They also use music from the first film.
They didn’t delete her death, but they did delete that line she said after
It appears that Mufasa wasn't the only victim of the gorge. Nuka and his mother, Zira were also victims.
At least Zira is no doubt better than scar she may be very evil but at least she has honor and morality and self respect when Simba had scar at his mercy scar was coward enough to plead for mercy and use the family card even though he killed his own family and turned on simba the second he gained the advantage when the hyenas surrounded him he tried to beg his way out if it was scar he would have accepted the paw but the second he was pulled up threw kiara off Zira is honorable enough to reject help from her enemy and accept her fate rather than use her enemy to get out of it and betray them
Couldn't agree more
@@FlashBiduan well done at least Zira has actual ideals like her strong undying loyalty to scar scar on the other hand had nothing he just wanted to make his life easier and never though of anything else he would have sold out anyone for his goals any ideals he may have claimed to have were all for show Zira died as an honorable warrior defiant to the end scar died as a lowly coward who had nothing
@@FlashBiduanbut despite this scar is more open minded than zira since in lion guard lions of the outlands she mocks Kion for having a lion guard not made of lions and shows racism towards the hyenas scar on the other hand allows any animal to be in his army he doesn’t care if it’s a hyena,snake,or a jackal and he never mocks kion for not having a lion guard made of lions he immediately accepts the new lion guard and considers them a threat so at least he’s not a racist everyone is equally worthless to him zira has better morality scar has a better mind in a sense of intelligence not in morals
@@TheMagnaficent If Zira gets to be in a live action Lion King movie who would be her new voice actor?
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376you’ve got the wrong comment section this one is only about zira having more morality than scar you want the promo for the new movie or something but feel free to leave another comment about this here
Wow that “Never.” is so dark.
Well she did the right thing in real life it would be the equivalent of saying no never to someone telling you to repent
they shoulda kept this in, would've added a lot of depth to her character and complete obsession with scar/taka,
I was just thinking of this scene in a biblical sense, “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in Heaven.”
When I watched the FINAL version of Zira's death, I felt that something was wrong with two of the scenes coming straight after each other (a shocked Kiara and a smiling Zira falling to her death)... they kinda lacked a transition, it looked like the beginning of Zira's last moments were cut off! Am I the only one who got that feeling while watching Zira's death?
Actually yes! I always didn't understand why she was smiling when she was falling
So she WAS smiling wtf I always that that part was weird now it makes sense
😮😮😮
If this was in the final product then this would be the darkest sequel Disney has ever made. I guess if they added this to the final product then this film would have recieved a PG or R rating.
I don't think someone as pure as Kiara is going to forget this scene for years to come.
@@qtee8557there's just something beautiful about the struggle against our demons. A test to our strength...
@@qtee8557I picture my version of Roxas (?) to become something similar to Zira. Not as extreme as her, but certainly as unwilling to let his pride go. And with the potential to be as harmful, as in my version, he (?) murders DiZ with a cursed knife, and with Naminé's accidental help, he (?) slaughters, in his memories, everyone DiZ has ever known and cared for, ensuring he dies with a broken spirit. But don't worry, he won't hurt the real people. He just needed to get his frustrations out of his chest in order not to.
@@qtee8557I made a small, but significant edit to my comment. Please read when you have the chance.
@@qtee8557why do you think I put the question mark ?
She killed herself because she wanted to be with Scar who is already dead.
She really had a HUGE obsession of him.
Scar was her idol and she worshipped him all the way
I don't think someone as pure as Kiara is going to forget this scene for years to come.
Ironically, she let herself go because... she never let go of the past.
Yeah she was REALLY obsessed with Scar and wanted to continue his legacy. So obsessed with him that she chose to join him in hell.
@@Elysia63 And for Scar. We could say that the Hyenas and Fire killing him Parallels his own hate consuming and destroying him.
@@Elysia63 Bet she deeply cared about Scar which could be why since they're partners or even boyfriend and girlfriend and why she was so determined to avenge him.
Anybody notice zira loocked for a moment at log and then a second after smiled and then said no, never
I did. Zira chose death wanted to be in Hell with Scar
Don’t save Zira; she don’t wanna be saved.
She wants to be with Scar. That's why she didn't want to be saved
I don't think someone as pure as Kiara is going to forget this scene for years to come. Let us hope she never fully understands it.
@ChristmascliffeI don't know if Nuka is in Hell or not considering he was on the villain's side who only wanted to get his mother's love and attention.
I prefer this version because it's not only in character for Zira, but because this may have been foreshadowed when Simba said to Kovu "Scar couldn't let go of his hate. And it destroyed him." . And guess what happened to Zira here.
Zira belongs in hell along with the other Disney Villains.
It was so repetitive, but in a spine chilling way. It was basically the death of mufasa all over again which makes it a full circl- Oh.. NO WAI- "IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIIFEEEEEE!!"
this would've been MUCH better
Why did they cut it out??
@@Elysia63 Probably because Suicide is definitely too gruesome and dark.
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 but she didn't die in a gruesome manner
@@goyangi4143 Maybe she did by drowning and being injured by the logs
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 and besides, her committing suicide makes more sense considering her narcissistic nature
- When I saw this version of Zira's death for the first time, I remembered her face at 0:32 forever. Brrrrr.....
Just like you, I don't think someone as pure as Kiara is going to forget this scene for years to come. Let us hope she never fully understands it.