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I had heard of the first 3 but Deep Fighter was a bit of a mystery to me. Had to look it up on MobyGames. I'm surprised it's not more well known it had fairly decent review scores and looks interesting. I should give it a look sometime!

Yeah, I'm not sure if it's the recording software or there just isn't that much difference, I've switched to the beta version in steam and going to give that a whirl. Not only playing, I've actually managed to complete it, walkthrough on the website!

Well it's an experimental aircraft, so they must have the gun camera hooked up to a telex machine, for some sweet hardcopy ascii art gun kills! 🤣

Yes, it's the ability to control the joysticks under, PCem which allows you to control what Win98 sees as a joystick being the key. It's a very useful technique for flight sim emulation. Glad it proved useful for you 👍

Bit early for that, still testing!

@@darkenedroom ok will keep tracking :)

Yup, when I have a chance I'll add something to the website. And I need to get the control scheme process consistent. 👍

Short answer is ddraw.dll with the following ini settings enabled: Dinputto8, EnableDdrawWrapper, HandleExceptions, DdrawEmulateSurface, DdrawEmulateLock, FilterNonActiveInput

@@darkenedroom Thanks I will check as soon as I can myself. I am wondering if the dxwrapper would be the good solution for Longbow 2 and the rockets falling short. I am saying because it was sure in FA-18 in janes solving the automatic landing problem in native W10

@@Gabriele-bu7ri It's easy to set up and config DxWrapper and the engines may be similar enough so that the same settings that worked for FA-18 may work for Longbow 2.

I thought it was worth giving it a whirl and see what happens. The ability to convert to DInput8 might help in a few other games as well.

Will have to document what I've found so far, but some early promising results. Getting the HOTAS to work took a bit of faffing around with control schemes and the buttons don't work but mapping software would probably help that out. Throttle and stick axes were fine!👍

Ok so the joystick is sorted, I had 3dfx enabled so turning it off isn't enough, the game has to start with 3dfx disabled, so turn it off, quit and restart and if the 3dfx is disabled, joystick should work straight-away. Buttons still not mapped and getting to button 36 in the remapping options will cause a freeze. IMHO after some dogfighting the handle exception option in DxWrapper means the game will hit a dx exception and continue there will be artifacts around the screen but it won't just CTD. The higher the resolution the less time it takes to hit an exception. So at 1920x1200 you can dogfight for a few mins before a freeze and screen artifacts everywhere. Lower the resolution the longer everything will be fine. But there are still a lot of options to test, so DxWrapper is worth it just to prevent CTD after a tricky mission and the game crashes 30 seconds from landing!

lol, I know exactly what you mean, I've put in many many hours myself, the worst bit is escorting a transport and it jumps out just as pirates jump in and you lose your transport. And now I've added a guide to play it on Windows 10, what have I done! 🤣

I've had a quick look at frame generation with Lossless Scaling, didn't notice a big difference with EF2000 but it made much more of a difference with Subwar 2050. Although I haven't spent a lot of time with it yet, so I'll continue to look at it. 👍

There's some listed in the video description, well the important ones that differ from the DOSBox Staging defaults, but I haven't added a guide to my website so I'll probably add one there fairly shortly! 👍

Added a setup guide to the description so hopefully that will be of some help 👍

I'm using my TM Warthog HOTAS, I have TM TFRP rudder pedals as well but I don't think I used them for Privateer., since it doesn't support a throttle axis I was probably just using throttle buttons as the speed control.

It really does! And the internal cockpit view is at a high enough resolution to use as an internal cockpit view without having too switch to MFD views, although I still did! 👍

Really is, still love it and it looks so good at ridiculously high res 🤣

In game resolution was 640x400, the desktop resolution was 3840x2160, so with a 4:3 aspect ratio set in the DOSBox config, (I think, might be wrong) the actual game windows size might be getting upscaled by DOSBox Staging to 2560x1920 given the black bars top/bottom/left/right of the game window.

You can almost see the exact moment I thought 'I should not have done that' 🤣

@darkenedroom yup:) this system saved my life so many times when the demon inside you want that kill hehe. But I ended up canceling it because it interfered my NOE flight (one of the strongest points in this game)

@@lironk1 I serious need to spend more time playing this sims I've gotten working!

@darkenedroom it's a great game ! Finished it long time ago and I enjoyed it alot. Missiles seem to be a mystery here but it's still a fun game with nice hardware on the F35 to play with

@@lironk1 I has having too much fun getting gun kills!

For a game so old it has very few problems and runs better than it's sequel!

Edited!

Yeah, I have it running natively in Win10, trickier to record video though. It just needed Windows standard compatibility fixes. You get freezing/stuttering on the intro movies, and there may be some issues with modern multi-axes/multi-button controllers (which is why PCem may be preferable for some). On the plus side it can use the 3dfx native drivers with PCem, I don't think this is Glide but something closer to the 3dfx hardware. Lagging may be due to the SB PCII 128 sound card configured in PCem, might be better to switch to SB16 or AWE32.

DxWnd and nGlide are the wrappers used in this video: ua-cam.com/video/11qghKBqzmw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=darkenedroom Settings are described in the setup guide (link in video description)

I've never played it but I just wanted to see if I could get it running as well as possible under wiin10. Plays a lot better with the fan made patches.

Not sure, I have it installed in pcem but was unaware of any rocket issue?

@@darkenedroom check. In native mode w10 (with dgvoodoo installed) you will see that anything over 18 FPS , on my system in the least, will lead the unguided rockets to fall short of targets

Tricky to tell, I think I'd have to build a dedicated win98 box to be really sure. But given it occurs on different OS's/emulators/wrappers makes me think intended behaviour.

It does, just a shame it's so difficult to get running on a modern PC! It's a very temperamental game. 👍

@@darkenedroom Bei mir geht's ohne Probleme. Vor zwei Tagen angefangen Best Mission 1270 pts. und CMH Award.

@@georgipetrov307 Which version are you using? I meant running the mac version through emulation on a modern PC can be temperamental, unless you use MAME. Congrats on the CMOH! 👍

@@darkenedroom Ich kenne mich mit der Spiel schon. Ich spiele es mit DosBox 0.74-3. Ich hatte es in 90' Jahren gespielt.

@@georgipetrov307 ah the pc version. give DOSBox staging a try, out of the box crt emulation and mt32 support! 👍

Glad you liked it!

also can you try a mission and try issue commands to wingmen?.. how are the sound messages?

Using the latest version, at least it was v2.06.05.fx1

@@darkenedroom yes I tired as well it works.

Wasn't too hard with DxWnd

Should do Mobygames specs say Pentium, Win95 and DirectX 7.

It was kinda the sequel to Team Apache.

I have a copy of Anthology, so ripped the cds into images but it works with Longbow Gold as well.

@@darkenedroom ok that’s cool. I will go with the gold then

Not perfect, but stable enough to playthrough now!

@@darkenedroom thanks for this

Just pleased all the work is done now!

I have the original big box retail, and picked up the original Flash Point Korea big box retail later. There was enough manual in those two to see you through a 2 week holiday!

This'll work for the non-Glide Windows versions, about halfway through writing up the Windows Glide versions.

Finally done! www.tales-from-darkenedroom.com/post/janes-longbow-gold-running-on-windows-10

I'd start with PCem and a Voodoo3 given its age, there a good chance of it working. If not then I'd try and run it natively under Win10, with nGlide, dgVoodoo2 and if it supports early DirectX then ddrawCompat , dgVoodoo2 and maybe dxwnd for compatibility if needed.

@@darkenedroomit works with dxwnd, althoguh with noise there are some issue

Seems to work ok with PCem, stick/collective and pedals all work, you'll want to disable h/w accelerated sound, apart from that seems good?

@@darkenedroom hang on, which PCEM configuration?

@@darkenedroom hang on, which configuration of pcem., I tried yesterday was a disaster

DOSBox SVN daum is a very old and no longer maintained DOSBox build, any issues you have with it, you'll have to try and sort out yourself, while modern DOSBox builds are continually, maintained, bug fixed and enhanced. If a game has an issue, is it game issue or a bug in SVN daum which has been fixed in DOSBox Staging/-X?

@@darkenedroom you are absolutely right. It is just that this was one of the early project I had, ad at that time SVN daum was the only way to support 3dfx. As for JF3 it is quite stable, and I won't move to staging, which I did for many other dos games

@@Gabriele-bu7ri SVN daum contributed a number of patches to DOSBox-X, so I'd consider that the spiritual successor to SVN daum rather than Staging. Didn't spent a lot of time with it, as I went with ECE at the time.

This version was released in 1991 so they probably had their hands full with Gunship 2000 as well. I think there was a lot of unfinished business with F-19 that they wanted to fix with F-117A and I think it would have been hard to justify a 3.0 just a few years later.

@@darkenedroom Not to nitpick, but while the original DOS version of F-117a is from 1991, the Mac version did not come along until 1994. Which would place it well after the MPS arcade machine debacle, the sellout to Spectrum Holobyte and such. So I agree that it would indeed have been hard to justify at that point. And perhaps counterintuitive to try to compete with their own F-14 Fleet Defender.

Yup, absolutely right Mac wasn't until '94

I quite like the DOS version but I played it back in the day, and the flight model is excellent, if you crank it up to expert and have to use stick, collective and rudder to keep it flying.

I tried Qemu m68k and like you said, was very crash prone, been about 10 months since I last ran it so I'd thought I'd check. It's using MAME which has some very hardware accurate Mac emulation, although never the first thing that springs to mind when you think Mac emulation! If memory serves it's emulating a Quadra 800. Joystick support is provided by a MAME plugin I wrote, MacFlight which does some joystick/mouse axes translation. With MAME you can activate a 'cheat' menu to overclock the emulated CPU by up to 400% for smoother frame rates, although obviously the sound buffer isn't getting filled quick enough, hence the sound issues.

Yes glide passthrough is about handing glide requests off to something else to deal with, so nGlide, dgVoodoo2, etc. With dgVoodoo2 ua-cam.com/video/RqBbVFW1Bbs/v-deo.html

All the usual suspects, Basilisk/SheepShaver, Qemu, etc all fail to run it in a stable fashion. The only emulator that could was MAME, the Mac emulation is a lot more hardware accurate!