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3018-Prover w/300W Spindle Motor Milling Aluminum
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3028-Prover with 300W Spindle Motor Kit Aluminum milling/cutting 3.175mm router bit. 13000 RPM 600mm/min .1mm stepdown .05mm finish stepdown Links to Products: 3018-Prover: www.sainsmart.com/collections/cnc-machines/products/sainsmart-genmitsu-cnc-router-3018-prover-kit 300 Watt Spindle Kit: www.sainsmart.com/collections/genmitsu-cnc-replacement-upgrade-parts/products/genmitsu-cnc-lathe-air-coo...
3018-Prover 300 Watt Spindle Upgrade with GRBL control
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Sainsmart 300 watt spindle motor kit installed in 3018-Prover and wired so as to allow GRBL control of spindle speed and spindle power. Be sure to refer to the diagrams in this video to ensure proper connection to the mains. The drawings include a GND connection. The GND terminal is connected to the case. Note also the addition of the RC filter to smooth the PWM output. Thanks for watching. Imp...
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This shows a method of adding a 500 watt spindle motor while maintaining software control of power and speed. Use the power supply specified. Do not substitute with another type! Be sure to refer to the circuit diagram link below to ensure proper connection to the mains. The drawings include a GND connection. The GND terminal is connected to the case. Note also the addition of the RC filter to ...
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CAN BUS R4850G2 Power Supply. How to set default and temporary output voltages. Important: Note that this is a temporary mains connection for this video using only L and N. When connecting for use, be sure to also connect the GND connector to the mains GND (or Earth). Examples: On the fly: (first 2 bytes 01 00) indicate changing value on the fly frame;108180FE;01 00 00 00 00 00 D5 2A;100; The 0...
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I know this is an old video but have to say thanks for this informative video. I have upgraded my CNC 3018 Pro with a 300w Spindle and the SSR and PS as shown in the video. On the GBRL controller I got, there is a blue connector for a 48v PS. I used that and am able to control the 300w motor from within software. All that is required is to set the PS knob to Max voltage. These settings will not change, but the software will vary the speed of the Spindle. I also downloaded a balance fan, took off the cheap Chinese's unbalance fan, and the noise had reduced to almost 92%. The door is 6 feet away from my machine and one will not know that the machine is running. My final upgrade is to extend the bed that will bring this into a 3040. Thanks once again.
I am not familiar with the Pro board. I think it is great that it has a 48v port that supplies controlled drive to the motor. I have not been paying attention to their boards in a long while, but I can say that their technical documentation is awful. Congrats on a successful implementation.
i've purchased the materials to do this over a year ago, the 500w 48v spindle + 48v PSU, and today im going to start mounting it, nice tip to keep it mind. If the board already has 48v input it simplifies the process alot
I know this an old video but recently purchased a 3018 prover V2 and upgraded the spindle as you did and trying to wire as you did. On the new main board I don’t have the 0-5 v plug as yours does. Can I not plug that plug into the spindle plug?
Excellent video! Very well explained and the wiring diagrams you included were outstanding. Thank you very much for taking the time to put this video together!
Hi ! why is the minimum fan speed only at voltage 53.5V? how to make at minimum voltage of 48V?Thanks !
Voltage a6c0 - ea67 Default Voltage c000 - e99a C000=48volts To set default boot voltage the command is slightly different. Also, the range is less than on the fly setting. See: www.beyondlogic.org/review-huawei-r4850g2-power-supply-53-5vdc-3kw/
@@lanierje I'm sorry for my bad English! I figured out how to set the right voltage! thanks ! I don't understand why at 48/58v or any other, the fan turns faster than at 53.5V? is it possible to set the minimum fan speed at 48V as at 53.5V?
What control board are you using on the cnc?
Damn I have been looking for this for ages now thank you so much ❤
Thanks greatly dear friend for this Educative video... Sorry for asking for the circuit diagram of the 10k resistor to the terminals and the link between address port and the output port. Thank you very much
The 10k is a light load for the power supply. I don't like to run switching supplies with no load. It is probably not needed. The link connects the slot detect 1 and slot detect 2 pins to the output negative. This is needed to enable the power supply. See the beyondlogic.org review-huawei-r4850g2-power-supply-53-5vdc-3kw
You are a genius, doff my cap to you Sir 🎩 Super helpful with the wiring diagram as well and the links Fabulous, thanks for sharing 👏👏👏
48v × 10amps = 480w so thays fine... What about using 80v ×6amps = 480w Whats the difference in preformance.. You're still 20watts under its rated and 20watts under the OEM power supply. I assume with 48v and more amps it runs slower than 12k rpm but has a higher torque The OEM is 0-100v at 5amps. Voltage is usually attributed to speed and amps is torque 🙃 It would be cool to get you to do an experiment with the different supplies to see what the difference in preformance really is. I'd like to see the rpm of your spindle tbh. Also why did you jump 100k ohm resistor to the 50v output ?? Like thays doenst make sense. You're pulling up to 50v through 100k resistor.... what in the hell ?
I bought the 300W spindle kit to go on the Genmitsu 4040-Pro CNC. Will this same circuit work with the 4040-Pro GRBLcontrol board?
I don't know. I can't find any information on that control board. SainSmart needs to provide more tech info on their products.
@@lanierje No, not unless you want to open the control box and do a lot of digging. The only output that is available is the 0-24v spindle drive. However that is sufficient, with a slightly different circuit.
@@georgeinnis877 Could you describe this circuit? I have a 4040-reno, and I suppose the control board is the same.
dident work this whit the stock psu from the 500w spindle?
Was the 500w spindle worth the effort? Very informative video Thank you.
They are good Idk about putting fkn 10amps on it It's rated for 500watt with no amp ratting
Hello. Which GRBL card are you using? mine does not have a variable 5V output depending on the Candle command! Thank you for the answer.
I just got a 4040-pro and picked up a 500w spindle for it. They made a custom control board for this unit and disappointingly they did not break out any control signals. So you only have the main 0-24vdc spindle control to work with. Doable certainly but not as nice. No other digital outputs that could used for other accessories either. The 500w spindles power supply is the type that has a dedicated input of 0-10vdc for Mach3 control so a simple voltage divider should work ok. I'd prefer something with some isolation tho. The lack of any standards for these desktop systems is a problem that would be simple to address. Some standard signal levels and matched impedances. Really, given how powerful micro controllers are now and how easy tach feedback is to process, for a few dollars these interfaces could be made all digital. Maybe use I2C or RS485.
Can it also work on genmitsu 3020 pro Max?
I don't know. I tried to find info on that control board to know avail. Sorry
this is great information, thank you, question about the pull up resistor, how do you figure out the size needed, my power supply say 0-10V and you said yours is 5V,
I just noticed, I think you have a different board than me, would you have a link to the board you have? thanks
The loss of speed control is one of the biggest barriers to me upgrading, my spindle, so it is interesting to see exactly what the input looks like. I was toying with the idea of a digi-pot. One thing though, do you not have stability problems with using the variable output voltage as a pull-up - in the sense that if the output voltage wanders higher, it increases the voltage on the pull-up, increasing the demand voltage which increases the output voltage etc. And similarly if the output voltage wanders downwards.
If you do the math you will see it is stable. High value of pullup resistance vs much lower source impedance. Also at lower voltages it practically dissapears.
Thanks for the great video, I have a few comments and questions. First, I am able to control spindle on/off through software without the relay. Should I be able to do that? Second, the spindle is meeting the same rpm's through software without the resistor.(Tested with a laser rpm tester) Will this have an adverse affect over the life of the spindle. thanks in advance.
Without the relay, the motor can stop but there may be a few ma of current flowing. I prefer to turn off the power supply. The pullup resistor allows full output voltage from the power supply. Only a few volts different and a few RPMs higher. The pullup compensates for the moderate output impedance of the driver.
Hi great video. I have got a Huawei PSU480A, got can bus working, get similar reports, tried the same address / message as for R48850G2 to set the voltage but does not work. Have you, or somebody else any lead to instruction set for Huawei PSU480A ? Thks in advance.
Thank you for posting such an informative video! I have a Genmitsu 3018-PROVer V2 that I would like to do the same thing to, but the control board is different. There isn't a 0-5V connector on the board anymore, and instead, on the right side there is a 3-pin laser JST connector (12V, Ground, PWM,) for a laser, and a 2-pin JST connector for laser air assist (M-, M+). Any thoughts on how to work this magic on the new board? At the very least, I can connect to the original spindle wire to enable the on/off software control, but I'd love to eliminate the potentiometer so the RPM can be software controlled as well. THank you for any additional guidance, and thanks again for putting this out there for the rest of us!
The 0-5V can be filtered PWM. You could just build an RC circuit to filter the PWM. You would need to know the PWM frequency to select your filter cutoff frequency. Filtered PWM is DC with some ripple.
can i use this setup also on my twotrees TTC450?
I don’t know. I am not familiar with that product. Its looks like a nice machine though.
Hi great video hope its not to late to ask a question as i am fairly new to cnc and a real noob at electronics and am a little confused. There are 3 diagrams between the video, notes and comments, video had no pwm filter, the other 2 did but on has a .47uf capacitor and the one from the notes has a 1uf capacitor with a 100 ohm resistor. so do i follow the one from the notes with the resistor and 1uf cap? i see there are different types of capacitors and resisters, which would be recommended?? ex ceramic capacitor? ex 5% 1/4W Carbon Film Resistors? any other helpful tips on wiring pwm filter... that wasnt shown in the video... thanks
In most cases a .47uf capacitor across the control terminals will be fine. Try that before you install a series resistor. The type of capacitor is not critical. 1/4 watt resistor is fine if you use the RC filter.
Is it possible to use this approach with a 24V motor and power supply?
Yes. There us a 24v version of this power supply.
How to leave this power supply working at 45 volts
Not possible. Default voltage minimum is 48V. Voltage a6c0 - ea67 Default Voltage c000 - e99a C000=48volts
Thank you for your support, sorry in the software as I change the address from Send to Receive.
Mr Lanierje Excuseme sir, all these data like 54570, hexadecimal D52A and 010000000000 as you got them.
Try this link for protocol: www.beyondlogic.org/review-huawei-r4850g2-power-supply-53-5vdc-3kw/
Hello, could you tell me the wattage of the 100 ohm resistor and the wattage of the 100 Kilo ohm resistor?
1/4 watt is fine for both.
Do you need to supply yourself a 3 prong power cord for the GRD L and N terminals on the power supply?
Very good video. How is the can buss connected to the powersupply?
Hi. Do you have current limit modification ?
Have you use both this and a PWM controlled spindle motor and if so have you noticed a difference? Have you done a calibration?
Very clever technology
Are you willing to share how you arrived at using a 100K resistor connected to the output of the power supply and not a smaller resistance connected to the +5vdc pin on the pot connector ? Also, why 100K? Nice design, I am getting ready to implement a variation of it on my system. Understanding your choice on the pull up resistor would help. I am concerned about voltages >5vdc to the board if the 100K fails shorted or its resistance drops significantly. I have seen resistor values drop with age/abuse a couple of time over the years.
The value was calculated by use of Kirchhoff laws. You can't use a smaller resistor from the 5 volt supply because the 1K source impedance (even at zero) can't sink the reference. The calculated 100k provides additional current to the reference in order to allow full output. At lower voltages it becomes less relevant. The power at max in the 100k resistor is .02 watts. Metal film resistors are very stable.
Very nice video, it's also a bunch safer since I've noticed that some of the power bricks for the 500W motor, the adjustment potentiometer is referenced to mains which could give some shocking results if something were to fault with the grounding. This takes that possibility entirely out of the loop.
UPDATE: performed the upgrade, wired with the relay, works like a champ! Thanks again!
Thank you for posting this video, as I'm doing exactly the same thing right now to my 3018. You saved me a ton of research! I dig the anderson power poles, I use them alot in ham radio.
I was able to find all the connectors except the 2 pin plug that you used to get the 5 volts to up the voltage with the pullup resistor. What is the proper name and where did you acquire it. Thanks Jon
the circuit diagram shows the types of connectors
Have a question, where I live all the electronics stores have went out of business so I'm at a loss where to get some parts as well don't know what to call them. First you made a new 3-wire plug for the connector on the power supply, what is it called and where can I order it. Second, You added the 100k resistor and plug it into the 5v that was on the mother board, what is the connector called. Third, I have the original wire that connected to the spindle motor but it's too short, can I use the Anderson connector to lengthen the wire or should I get a new one, what's it called. Know this must sound crazy but because of Corvid everything closed up. Your help is apricated.
Thank you very much for the video, it's great.
Forgot I enjoyed your video and got a lot from it.
It seems like all the added components and power supply should be housed in some sort of box. being new to the CNC as well to the needed wiring skills it's a littlie over whelming. Can you suggest a box to used. Have a little background with computers, power supplies normally have heat sinks and fans would seem like something to do if in a box.
Do you have links for the filters and resistors. I’ve ordered a lot of wrong parts in the past and I’d like to save a trip to the electronics store to look like an idiot lol
Much obliged.
I know this was posted awhile ago, but thank you for doing this. I'm a little surprised that there are no instructions for set up included in the kit outside of a single unlabeled diagram, no tutorial videos or steps for set up on the website, nothing. Would it be possible for you to add links to the other electrical components that you used that weren't included in the kit? Such as the plugs and connectors you are using?
Thanks, Lanierje. After a year of busy work & frustration. I finally made it worked. Problem was controller on prover had defect & Sainsmart graciously replaced free of charge. I am thrilled & thankful for your video.
i would love to know if you can monitor the real time current draw over Canbus? I'm thinking about charging batteries and being able to kill the PSU when current draw drops below say 1 Amp, meaning batteries are fully charged.
No it's not
Thanks for the great video. Way better solution than most others one can find on YT. A question, I recreated your setup exactly, also using the 10k resistor. However if I run the spindle at max, the output voltage reads 52, not just 50.7 as in your case. Maybe I am missunderstanding something fundamentally but since the PSU is for max 48 and so is the spindle, is that an issue?
I'm glad you got it working. That resistor should be 100k (not 10k)
@@lanierje ha, I knew I missed something, thx! ;) . Btw, I omitted the entire SLR on/off controll and do everything just through the PWM of my 3018 board, works flawlessly.
Found and installed the software on my computer. Copied/added both the default & max voltage frames exactly how you have them(thank you!)! Located a decimal to hex converter calculator to convert minimum voltage of 41.5V. Following your lead (hex = a55a=41.5V) Wondering if a macro of some sort could be used to set on the fly voltage and current without manually sending every minute? Any idea if these frames/code would work on any other Huawei power supplies, and have you discovered any other functions? ((Thanks again for sharing information! PS - I just ran/opened com port for kicks in the App without hardware and of course rec'd an error message, but the error message was in Chinese so totally indecipherable and useless -are all error messages in Chinese?
To answer my own question, apparently CAN implementations are different for different devices and manufacturers, the easiest most certain way for you to get this information would be to contact the manufacturer. There are some web references such as this one, but they seam to be few and far between.
I use the exact same method and power supply as yours, but no success so far