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This is very helpful. I wish I know this before putting the bumper back on.

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Had any problems out the ranger?

For one it's not the original installer who chooses the wiring. UHAUL offers a list of options and recommends the easiest option. T connectors , plug n play, as well as the universal you displayed in the video. Many customers choose the cheaper of the options which most usually is the universal. As for the wiring resting on the exhaust there is no excuse for that. That's just sloppy work.

Thank you for posting this video!! I have been going crazy trying to figure out why my own brake controller was only showing OL while moving. NEVER while stationary. I think this is a good indication of my own problem and how to fix it.

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Why is there no harness for this? Wth

Just bought a 2019 Lariat with a tow package. My new brake controller arrived today. Official ford model. Now I am concerned....

So what your saying is there is a chance...

My 2022 3500 SRW LB has two camera receptacles where the 4 pin connector used to be. If you pull a trailer that utilizes the four pin, I guess you need an adapter to seven pin or an extension cord to go over the tailgate. But keep in mind these are some of the same bunch that can't figure out the multi-tailgate issues with the trailer hitch. After 3 or 4 years, I would think they could fix the problem, but seems like they are creating new problems.

The CHMSL wire comes off the BCM. Left side under dash next to fuse box. Connector 5, Pin 13 (wire color Yellow w/ Grey Stripe) Be sure to also use a diode.

very nice. think this is a very informulable installation guide

This Ranger doesn't have the blunt cut wires for the TBC because it doesn't have the tow package. You can tell by the fact there's no 7-pin connector at the back. It's kind of weird, but the tow package doesn't include the TBC, you have to get it separately (part number VKB3Z2C006A)

That’s why they should start thinking about making them Gina instead. Americans workers… you know lazy American workers who want to get paid well but don’t want to work. I just got a hitch from them for my civic and the receiver is tilted/skewed to one side. It’s not like they are making computer chips, it’s a hitch for crying out loud.

I have a 2018 2500HD and with the 4” offset B&W ball, the bulkhead of my trailer will barely connect with the cab of my truck when making over 90 degree turns. I’m so pissed! Thinking about getting a 2020+ short bed but A) worried I’ll have the same issue with the goose ball in the stock location or B) will stress the whole frame too much if I use the 4” offset on the newer truck? Can the new short bed handle a 4” offset? Toy hauler is about 13k fully load if that helps.

I'm finding general motors sucks for 5th wheel prep after the factory. Both Ford and ram have a complete kit for adding it.

I have no problem at all with the ball being offset to the rear on a short bed truck

I just bought a 2021 Ford Ranger XL STX with no tow package. I will be installing a Tow Pro Elite Break Controller that I have acquired through a Ford Dealership. As you point out, there is no wiring or plug under the dash to install a break controller. I was able to mostly follow your video, but I didn't quite catch where you should hardwire the blue trailer brake wire from the controller. It sounds like you are advising that the blue trailer brake wire coming from the controller should be hardwired into the break light wire found at the back of the truck. FYI, the kit from the Ford Dealership (VKB3Z2C006A) does have a Lumen Trailer Lamp ECU that is connected to the CHMSL on the back of the truck cab. If you could confirm, that would be awesome! Thank you!

I have a 2021 ranger xl stx. Mine doesn't have the 4 wires under the dash. Ibought the REDARC vkb3z-2c006-a fe9m Ford not knowing I didn't have the wires. Mine has the harness going to the rear brake light in the rear of the headliner. Just need to find out where to hook up my yellow and blue wire off of the REDARC. Have less than a week before I have to drive 8 hours to pick up a 2023 RV . Any help appreciated

That’s because they aren’t really meant for work. They are the least popular truck for real work, the least reliable and the lowest rated in every single way.

The four way is for like a topper with lights

Numerous reasons such as a sled deck mentioned by others but can be utilized as an emergency plug just incase the 7 blade stops working. But also keep in mind, to make a different hole requires a different cut out die which in case costs more money and such dies, stamps and molds are very expensive to make so one cut out die to make two holes the same is cheaper than two different dies for two different holes and keep in mind those dies do wear out and have to be replaced. To be honest, I'm surprised they are even including a hole at all on trucks without the 5th wheel/gooseneck prep package.

Totally agree this is stupid for a design. The only reason i could see for wanting a 4/7 way is that some old gooseneck dont have breaks and could possibly use a 4 way. That chance is probably less than 2%. So it is a stupid design. The only good thing is that both those plug are interchangeable on the truck. But once that 4/7 way goes in its going to be a bitch to get it out without access to the clips.

We need the 4 way in bed for a sled deck

Great info. Thanks for the detailed explanation.

You can also buy another plug that allows you to hook your trailer camera system up on that top plug instead of that four way

I would assume that is large like that for the optional trailer cameras.

For a sled deck

Where are you located? I have a 2021 that I need set up.

Do you know anyone who has this part??? I have been looking everywhere

I wouldn't like that hitch placement with the short bed. I just finished installing a B&W on a 2021 long bed and it sucked. They redesigned their hitch I'm guessing to deal with the attachment holes on top of the truck frame now. In the old days when you bolted the B&W brackets to the sides of the frame and simply slid the cross members in through the wheel well and bolted it all together it was a breeze. Now you have to bolt the end fittings to the shortened cross members. Most of it has to be installed in place up under the truck with little to no room to spare. Then most of the bolts have to be tightened in place, several to 150# which is nearly impossible. Then the 8 bolts that go down into the top of the frame have to be tightened to 110# and you can't get a socket on them. That's a lot to ask of an 18mm box end. The whole install is just a disaster now compared to how it used to be.

Don’t blame gm when curt didn’t have a problem making a gooseneck for the 21 short beds that the ball is in front of the axle... have one

You mentioned contacting you about selecting a shop in the Nissan Versa conversion but didn't give contact information. I have a 2021 I would like converted .

As “NarrowRoadLife” pointed out earlier, GM has a solution to fill the gap. It is GM part #19420832. However, that part is made by Curt and searching for it under the Curt part number will probably yield better results in both pricing and availability. The Curt part number for JUST the filler bracket is: Curt #55417 www.curtmfg.com/part/55417 If you need the part that fills in the gap (#55417) AND the actual 7-way plug with harness, then you need to get Curt #56072. That’s the entire kit. www.curtmfg.com/part/56072

Part numbers?

Found out Chevrolet has an adapter for this problem here: HD Pickup Bed 7-Way Adapter Bracket for 7-Way Extension Harness by CURT™ - Associated Accessories Part No. 19420832

Book smart engineer's that have never used a truck.

First of all, why is anybody buying an HD truck without a fifth wheel gooseneck prep package?? Second of all, I saw a video a while back and on the factory gooseneck fifth wheel package someone was asking why the ball is so far back and the answer was yes it’s far back but it is still in the middle of the leaf springs

There's nothing "going on" with GM. They know a few things about building trucks, and their engineers have spec'd the new trucks with the hitch set back because so many people want to pull a 5er with a short bed. And while these are already the longest short bed on the market @ 6'10", it helps even more to set the hitch back. They designed it this way, so clearly they're comfortable with the weight not centered exactly over the axle. I think their feeling is that as long as it's centered in terms of suspension travel, it's ok. And as Randy graham pointed out, it's centered on the leaf springs.

The bw 1020 gooseball setup is same frame as GM puck system. Both are 3 inches behind axle. I would love to see scale weights on both axles with 5th wheel camper hooked up.

Gm factory system is about 2 inches back I asked why on my 2021 finally got answer from gm that is center of the leaf springs

Finally found a video that shows my issue! What a pain in the ass.

Great explanation!! I hope on my truck I have the wires available

Great explanation and job. If I ever need something like this done to my truck, I will visit, even from way up north.

They put it there to get the 5th wheel trailer away from the cab. The front cab part will hit the truck cab if not

This is a weird situation. I have no pig tail but the wire harness at the trailer plug has all seven wires there. I used an adapter to get a seven plug and I have reverse. Why would they include trailer sway when no seven plug? The fuse box has an output for trailer brake power. Did you look into tapping in to the fuse box under the hood?

I'm glad you use the brake light wire and suggest the chmsl wire, since going by the brake pedal signal not only has the issues you outlined, but also isn't activated by the AEB (automatic emergency breaking) or ACC (adaptive cruise control) systems. If the truck were to automatically apply brakes in an emergency situation without also applying trailer brakes, then you're gonna have a bad time. And insurance may not cover you either.

I'm sure you know by now if the tow package is there it has wires... you were close wrapped in blue tape & main loom