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No, it was. Nos from back in the day.

@@66mhzbrainlovely find

Lucky you😁 wish I had one!

Haha, yes it came off with the cooler, I'll glue it back on

It is a mystery, seemed like they lost the plot a bit towards the end😔

Cool thanks! I now know😁, might be worth doing a vid an digging into how glide stacked up against d3d in more detail.

Thankyou! yes its been a busy summer hope to get back to one every week or 2 from now😁

Haha, I did clean it several times with ipa but its ingrained with thermal paste. At least if I want to unlock it I can see where😁

3dfx never implemented agp texturing meaning there was barely a difference between their agp and pci versions of their cards. Since the competition was using agp properly, yes, in this case I think it's fair.

@@66mhzbrainThe Voodoo4 4500 AGP ist about 20% faster than the 4500 PCI version in Quake 3 team arena (640x480x16). There is a Test section on the main page of the voodooalert forum where you can see the results. The PCI bus runs with 33MHz and the AGP bus with 66MHz. AGP Voodoo cards are always faster than the PCI versions, also depending on the game, resolution and texture sizes, where the PCI bus is a bootleneck. 66MHz PCI server mainboards should give the same performance as the AGP version.

Interesting. As it is physically different i.e. way more colors and I think only 32 bit has transparency. Cant say I've ever noticed an obvious difference. I might have to take a closer look.

If I remember right, it's just that it's a perception thing. The human eye can't distinguish the amount of color with 32 bit compared to 16. And these early 3D cards needed all the help they could get. Oh, and 32 bit color is really 24 bit.

It might be fun to take a look, maybe even make a short vid with findings 😁

Yes 32-bit at that time in 1998-2000 was just a marketing hype used by Nvidia to make 3dfx cards look bad. The 16-bit image quality of the Banshee, Voodoo 3/4/5 (thanks to the 22-bit filter) was superior to that of the TNT1/2 and Geforce and actually closer to the 32-bit image of Nvidia cards. But at that time in 1998-2000 the TNT1/2 and Geforce 256 SDR and Geforce 2 MX were simply too slow for 32-bit gaming, they lost 30-70% performance when switching from 16 to 32 bit color, making most games unplayable at a decent resolution like 1024x768.

I second that! v8.05 (July2001) is probably the best driver to use in order to squeeze every drop of performance from a GF2(mx)... by a big margin actually... Haven't tried it on GF3 yet.

​@@B24Fox V8.05 was a game changer for me :) after that I decided that any graphics card that required anything newer would be best suited for Windows XP. When you think about it the GeForce 2 was the last true dedicated Windows 98 Graphics card as Windows XP was released not long after it. When Windows XP was released all the efforts and budget was put into it and Windows 98 was quickly forgotten about. so for me GeForce 3 and driver version 8.05 was the last effort put into windows 98 during the transition and the GeForce 2 was the truly last Windows 98 dedicated graphics card. This is of course my personally opinion :)

Yes it was a shame. Sound like a dream rig!

Right, but that's still better that the one that ran as two 16mb cards.

I believe its 128 bit with sdr memory. There was a ddr version that had a 64 bit bus as far as I know, which isnt saying much so I may be wrong🤔

@@66mhzbrain you can run hardware info to know :)

@@66mhzbrainYou can try hardware info to know if it's 64 or 128 bits :)

@alaricjeard269 i have everest home and it is 128 bit

Hi, yes its cool, just swapping it out with the p4 that used to be in ky test rig. I'll probabaly stick something faster in, an xp of some kind but just to be double sure I dont bottleneck anything for slightly faster cards.

unscrew the fan, turn it around and remove the label/sticker, put ONE drop of oil in the opening, press the sticker down again and give the fan a manual spin with your fingers. re-screw the fan in place and enjoy a much quieter fan. cheers mate

Mine was grinding when I got it. I doused it in contact cleaner and a drop of oil and it now seems ok. But when I have it in a case out of sight I dont trust it so use one of these - Noctua NF-A4x10 5V, Premium Quiet... www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NEMGCIA?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

​@@ShrineOfLifeI think that I allready tryed that. It helps a bit.

​@@66mhzbrainWhat do you do with the 4 pin since the voodoo 4 is a 3 pin. Pwm is not connecting?

@@bonno666 you get a bunch of adapters with it, just ran it off a fan header on the mobo.

Thankyou! Nice to hear from someone who used one back in the day!

Yes think they are more for collecting now than using for reto gameplay as there are othe cards that cost way less and are faster, there are better options. Id love a 5500 but probabaly wont get one.

@@66mhzbrain I agree, both were unique opportunities so it was cheap, I wouldn't pay the price they usually ask for.

@@66mhzbrain Agreed, the 4 and 5s are ridiculous. I have a voodoo 3 in my retro PC just because it works with most of the older glide games and doesn't need a silly passthrough. The 3s aren't "cheap", but they're nowhere near the $800 the 5s sometimes sell for. Plus as you pointed out, for any games that need something "more modern" than the 3, there are faster and far cheaper options. I think the only real *need* for a voodoo is for some of the early DOS glide titles that require a 3dfx card. Anything modern enough to benefit from the power of a voodoo 5 will most likely work with other video adapters as well.

Same here. I used what I could get back then, and that wasnt much. Why its so nice to be able to get the things jow that I once could only read about in magazines 😁

Really! Cool, thanks fornpoint8ng 8t out. Yes, a fool idea for a vid😁

Srill cool cards😁

Yes they were cool cards and really good value for money 😁

They passed me by back then too. Was all about geforce and radeons as far as I can remember.

@@66mhzbrain yeah i found another source that says it the 256 so your right. It was the programmable shader that started with the GF3.

It was sad. I vividly remember the voodoo and voodoo 2 days as some of the most exciting times to be into pc's. Never had a voodoo 3 back then but had a banshee.

Unfortunately, the Voodoo 5 6000 would not have been competitive at all. It was an absurd product - very expensive to make, and probably too loud to be bearable for the user.

@@looks-suspicious Yes, agreed. I made the assumption based on the raw "performance data". But, yeah, it was just a little to late for being an end consumer product.

Yes its my go to for glide gaming jow.

The Voodoo 3 released in March 1999 was a high-end card (not mid-end), it was the fastest card on the market up until October 1999 when the Geforce 256 SDR was released. Also the Voodoo 3 had the best 16-image quality out of all cards on the market , by far, similar to the 32-bit image quality of other cards, thanks to the 22-bit filter of the Voodoo 3 that improved image quality a lot. And the colors displayed by the 3dfx cards including the Voodoo 3 were also more intense and vivid than that of other cards.

@@MagicManfred like I said in the vid just curiosity as it came out of a another similarly specced vaio p4 I had. It would be nice if I had all of the period correct competition for each card I have😁 but alas, I dont have that many😔

I never got past the banshee. Nice to have now though as a piece of history.

I had a banshee and the 4 and 5 passed me by back then.

Cool. It all passed me by back then. I could only drool over magazine articles. Think I went from a voodoo banshee to a geforce 4 mx to a radeon x 300. I also dont remember anything about the geforce 3. I also missed loads of games as I was just into mmo's playing ultima online and star wars galaxies. I keep meaning to go back to the elder scrolls stuff since I enjoyed skyrim so much. Would be interesting to comoare how it runs with different period correct cards.

@@66mhzbrain I was a big Star Wars Galaxies, EQ and Planetside player back in the day! Star Wars Galaxies must have been rough on those cards, it ran really poorly on my 9700pro PC. 2003 was the year where I kicked consoles to the curb because I finally had a PC I made with my own money. Before that everything was prebuilds that my mum bought and it was always onboard graphics or the Geforce MX series... :/ Still I was able to play America's Army 2 and CS and Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield. I remember playing EQ for the first time in 2000 when the second expansion came out. My mate's brother bought the game and I asked to borrow it, little did we know that the cd keys weren't like other games where you can just reuse them lol. I only played for a year though until Luclin as I thought the expansion looked dumb and DAOC came out.

@@Vanu-i4o I betad galaxies, it was a lot of fun. I forgot about Planetside. That was the firat time I'd played anything like that, massive groups fight8n a war. I play world vs world in guild wars 2 now every jow and then similar vibe.

Haha, yes I was the same, I rocked my geforce 4mx that came in a dell for a long time. Yes prices are silly. German medeon branded cards still seem to go for reasonable prices. I got lucky, the 2 came in a non working machine for cheap and the 3 on fb marketplace for cheap. Fb marketplace/gumtree have been a gold mine for stuff at much cheaper prices than ebay etc.

@@66mhzbrain Actually I'm a complete liar, I have a 750ti.... But I do not really count it as I associate ti with the high end. I bought it when I made a micro build and it required to power cable. Such a great card, that and the AMD 480/580 were budget kings back in the day, they're still both great for PS4 era gaming today. Though I bought the 480 for VR use and I even played HL Alyx on it, how long that card lasted me, I put it in my work PC now so I can game lol. It's becoming harder and harder to find these old cards now, usually they're in PCs people throw in the bin. I'm guilty of that myself as my 9700 Pro I threw in the bin back in around 2010 as it wasn't even worth selling back then.

@@Vanu-i4o I dont like to think of the stuff I've thrown away. Ive just taken my 1080ti out of my main gaming rig but went with amd this time for a change.

Beware of your dreams😁

That makes sense and probably how I would have thought back in the day. But🤔 its a great idea for a video approach. Given an amount of cash cash in 1996 what could you get for a cpu upgrade. Watch this space.

Would have been very cool. Maybe even saved 3dfx!

Haha, at least you have something to remember it by😁

That machine has been updated a lot since this vid abd has a different board with a 2.4 p4, still with universal agp etc

Go for it 😁

@@66mhzbrain I'm picking up the 6800gt 256mb today. It's a gigabyte with a heatsink on both sides of the card with a single fan. Offered $15 since it's untested. Pretty psyched. Realized I can plug it into my CRT tv so I'm going for it. P4 computer here we go lol

The monitor it comes with is a different model than this one but someone else is selling the one you have as well. I already had one bookmarked. only 10usd. It looks so cool

@@micksterminator3 sounds cool. I have a couple of gigabyte 6600gts with the coper heatsinks one either side, nice cards. You should have a very cool machine running through a big tv😁

Its a cool machine. My first was a different model olivetti, lots of good memories!

That would be because i do this for fun and am definately not a pro. I made that a while back so hopefully have gotten better😁 Thanks fornchecking it out!

Those were the days😁

Thankyou!

Same, the gf4 came up for a reasonable price from germany. About half what the maintream cards cost for the medion ones when I got it. 9200 just came with a machine.

Yes, and I have one ordered. 9200 was just a dx8 version of the 9000 and weak. 9100 is I believe a rebadged 8500 which was a good budget gaming card.

@@66mhzbrain I'm considering a PCI version of the 9100 for a P3 "compaq deskpro en 800" SFF pc. Though there's also an interesting version of its motherboard that has a, soldered to the board, nVidia TNT2 16MB. The one I have now has the intel 810 which is basically an i740. It too has, I think, 4 or 8MB frame buffer. yea just frame not for textures and such, that's sys ram shared just like the i740. I've always wondered if i740 performance improves with faster memory, dual channel memory, etc since texture data comes from the system ram.

That woukd be a cool build. Would be interesting to experiment with ram speed!