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Reacting to THAT Video... Everything Wrong With RDR2's John Marston
Hello, I'm back! Today I am responding to some of the comments from my initial John Marston video from back in 2021!
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"A Winter Colterland" | Red Dead Redemption 2 | PC | #001
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A Winter Colterland | Red Dead Redemption 2 | PC | Chapter One | 001 First episode of a PC playthrough of the 2018 Rockstar title RDR2. Like, Comment & Subscribe if you enjoyed the video. My Twitter: LabOfCodez
What's Happened To John? Everything Wrong With RDR2’s John Marston In 5 Minutes
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Since the release of the prequel to Rockstar's 2010 title "Red Dead Redemption" there has been much critism surrounding the much loved protagonist, outlaw John Marston. Here I sum up some of the issues brought to light over the internet by fans. Photo Credit: Twitter: @darealbandicoot @nquinn45528 @winchester1899 @guicorleonex794 @sulkii_ @marston26521 GTA Forums: @DanceKino

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  • @jaydogg6-n4s
    @jaydogg6-n4s День тому

    Yall are trippin balls over hair lol

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 21 годину тому

      And Face, and Body, and Clothes, and Animations you need me to list off more of Rockstar’s mistakes?

    • @jaydogg6-n4s
      @jaydogg6-n4s 16 годин тому

      @@Bugplanet8840 LOL it's the greatest game of all time and you wanna complain about the Mf's BODY too? 🤣 🤣

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 11 годин тому

      @@jaydogg6-n4s yes when all the data is locked in the files being unused, all rockstar has to do is in,Ickes it, but since they’re lazy they can’t. I ain’t talking to you empty headed folks

    • @jaydogg6-n4s
      @jaydogg6-n4s 11 годин тому

      @@Bugplanet8840 Too late buddy. yall are thinking way too hard about it who cares lol John aint shit compared to arthur anyway.

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 11 годин тому

      @@jaydogg6-n4s John is the OG cowboay and has been for over a Decade, Arthur ain’t Shit compared to John.

  • @V1lg3r0
    @V1lg3r0 День тому

    That's not John Marston. That's Jim Milton

  • @kirbyklamcock3114
    @kirbyklamcock3114 6 днів тому

    This is the most nitpicked list of gripes I've ever seen, what a nerd

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 5 днів тому

      It’s not nitpicks it’s valid criticism stating Rockstars mistakes. How about you write something that adds to the conversation next time instead of being a hater and an Arthur Fanbot

  • @cesarmarin7997
    @cesarmarin7997 8 днів тому

    It’s not that deep

    • @backlandjbreaker24
      @backlandjbreaker24 7 днів тому

      It is, if you are a John Marston fan or someone who played RDR1 😅😅

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 7 днів тому

      It is when they don’t even Use The Model Already In THE FILES!

  • @jcthegamer1281
    @jcthegamer1281 12 днів тому

    My only guess why John doesnt look exactly like the RDR1 is because he is young at RDR2.

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 12 днів тому

      Then why does his 1899 NPC version look like a younger 1911 rdr1 John. R* was lazy and reused Arthur’s model for 1907 Jarthur Morgston

  • @justrandomstuff6828
    @justrandomstuff6828 17 днів тому

    If you're someone who actually cares about that, you need to leave New Hanover and go to a new map called "Outside", there are special items called "grass" there

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 17 днів тому

      Then why are you watching the video and commenting hypocrite?

    • @justrandomstuff6828
      @justrandomstuff6828 17 днів тому

      How else would i form an opinion, jackass? Should i look at a crystal ball? I thought it was interesting instead of highly stupid

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 15 днів тому

      @@justrandomstuff6828if you don’t have anything constructive to say don’t say it. And Since your comment isn’t a comment about the video and an insult you should just delete it to spare the embarrassment

    • @justrandomstuff6828
      @justrandomstuff6828 15 днів тому

      @@Bugplanet8840 why would i be embarrassed by a stranger on the internet? I don't know you, not to mention you deleted my previous comment instead of addressing it or better yet, ignoring it, i can say whatever i want, you're the coward that can't take it and use the little power you have to censor me, so congrats on your """victory""" i guess

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 15 днів тому

      @@justrandomstuff6828 I can’t delete shit on this. making false accusations against me without proof kid?

  • @WretchedRedoran
    @WretchedRedoran 20 днів тому

    I refuse to believe that the total degredation of John's model wasn't done out of spite

  • @alsharef1
    @alsharef1 28 днів тому

    Marston sucks in rdr1 ad sucks even more in rdr2 , he is a douche bag

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 27 днів тому

      Never have an opinion again, also self projecting is bad.

  • @holymonolith
    @holymonolith Місяць тому

    on my playthrough being the retard i was i was wondering wny arthur's clothes were in john's wardrobe because his gunslinger outfit was literally on arthur for me when he died. he went and dug up his corpse to steal his clothes

  • @botondzoltannagy8849
    @botondzoltannagy8849 Місяць тому

    But this game is a prequel.

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 Місяць тому

      So?? The. Why does 1899 and 1911 John look the exact same. Meanwhile 1907 John is just using Arthur’s model using low res John Textures?

  • @Themangodblessed
    @Themangodblessed Місяць тому

    gta 6s release feels the EXACT same as how it felt up to rdr2s release, beware guys, they are rushing these games out the door

  • @MrBet1001
    @MrBet1001 Місяць тому

    Rockstar: oh so you miss Arthur? Proceeds to morph John to Arthur 💀

  • @Legend27999
    @Legend27999 Місяць тому

    Is anyone else’s neck tie glitched? For John mine is like glitching through his neck 3:04 THIS is the John I wanted to play as!

  • @MrBet1001
    @MrBet1001 Місяць тому

    Nah why’d they massacre my boy 💀 but fr this needs changing

  • @mrwicked7
    @mrwicked7 Місяць тому

    I think the NPC RDR2 model of John fits his voice better. I'm even ok with the epilogue version since it was some time later. In RDR1 I always thought he should have had either a more raspy or gruff voice in or his face should have looked a little less rough.

  • @badieTV
    @badieTV Місяць тому

    5:00 😡

  • @Vitallor
    @Vitallor Місяць тому

    Why didn’t they just give him his npc head instead of just Arthur’s head with John’s features

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 Місяць тому

      They did in the files but because Rockstar fell off they went the lazy way and used Overated AF Arthur’s model instead like cowards

    • @Vitallor
      @Vitallor Місяць тому

      @@Bugplanet8840 it’s because of gta online they stopped focusing on story mode

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 Місяць тому

      @@Vitallor they fell of and gave into greed

  • @Albert_YTC
    @Albert_YTC Місяць тому

    Wish list for RDR2 remastered: Option to turn off the weight and hair growth system Give Arthur his beta duster coat outfit Be able to button up Arthur’s winter coat like in the prologue A bandana that isn’t pointless Fix everything with John

    • @FicInves
      @FicInves 19 днів тому

      rdr2 remastered is NOT going to happen, even rdr1 didnt get one. they just released it in ps4. if we even get rdr3, we are good.

  • @LoneWanderer774
    @LoneWanderer774 Місяць тому

    how do they fuck up a major character like this?

  • @sirsiver
    @sirsiver Місяць тому

    I loved rdr1 and after playing rdr2 i couldn't finish the epilogue with John Morgan until i installed some mods that restored his original aspect, thank you modders

  • @alexandrutodea2792
    @alexandrutodea2792 Місяць тому

    I think that Rockstar people know what they have done, for one reason. They made John by purpose to look somehow different , not because of laziness! If they copied the rdr1 model at the rdr2 graphics, awesome and unique graphics, John would be terrific. Everyone would forget about the rdr1 John, because the graphics are not that good and he would become way more underrated. That is my opinion, seems kind of obvious, I’m sure they would like that all their characters are appreciated.

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 Місяць тому

      Or rockstar was just lazy and reused Arthur’s model

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison Місяць тому

      Bro what? His model is literally what it is because of pure laziness

  • @toby7386
    @toby7386 Місяць тому

    john is a skinwalker

  • @brandenimhoff2713
    @brandenimhoff2713 Місяць тому

    Can you ask a friend to dub over this video in English?

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison Місяць тому

      Why you can’t comprehend basic English so you gotta settle with regular old English?

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 Місяць тому

      It’s English already. Can you not understand English so you want it redubed in English so you can listen in English of an English video

  • @Veshremyfan-c2w
    @Veshremyfan-c2w Місяць тому

    Maybe cause he’s fucking younger

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison Місяць тому

      Being younger has nothing to do with him looking like Arthur dumb dumb

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 Місяць тому

      Then why TF does rdr2 npc John and Rdr1 John look the same. Rockstar was lazy with the epilogue. Also we can all tell you never even watched the video

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison Місяць тому

      @@FaddanTheFadboy ……… I’m gonna pretend I didn’t just read this

    • @Veshremyfan-c2w
      @Veshremyfan-c2w Місяць тому

      @@Bugplanet8840they don’t

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 Місяць тому

      @@Veshremyfan-c2w they do stop coping. Mabye if you actually watched the vid and did research you would know, but since you didn’t we already know you’re a fraud.

  • @user-ww4oc5cp2n
    @user-ww4oc5cp2n Місяць тому

    Abigail definitely didn't marry john just for him to get some yanke ah haircut

  • @megapeebs2631
    @megapeebs2631 2 місяці тому

    I cant unsee it now shit

  • @Wertyber
    @Wertyber 2 місяці тому

    that's because this is Jim Milton not John Marston

  • @Chineseisntalanguageapparently
    @Chineseisntalanguageapparently 2 місяці тому

    Ain't no way you made a "from this to this" and used John from the future to compare him to his past self, like are you smart enough to make a video or not? Cuz how tf do you let that happen

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      You just fly in from stupid town?

    • @Chineseisntalanguageapparently
      @Chineseisntalanguageapparently 2 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison you just talk shit and think you’re smart bc of it?

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      @@Chineseisntalanguageapparently Boohoo go cry somewhere child

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 2 місяці тому

      Well it appears you’re the one who isn’t smart enough to push play on the video. If you watched it you wouldn’t be hate commenting

    • @Chineseisntalanguageapparently
      @Chineseisntalanguageapparently 2 місяці тому

      @@Bugplanet8840 I know exactly what they’re doing, I’m explaining why the thumbnail is wrong but apparently that simple logic just isn’t in that big brain of yours so you waste it thinking you’re smarter than everyone else, now gtfo my thread, you’re too sad to be talking like you know shit

  • @thebird5
    @thebird5 2 місяці тому

    why the fuck does he look like that in rdr2

  • @stabbed...
    @stabbed... 2 місяці тому

    you know whats funny i couldnt careless how john looks unless he looks like he looks like a crackhead coming out of the funny farm then i care but john doesnt look that weird imo

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      What? He literally looks broken lmao. His model is literally a less detailed Arthur

    • @stabbed...
      @stabbed... 2 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison dude maybe if you stopped knit picking everything maybe you could enjoy the game instead of being like OH THE GLOVES ARE TOO BIG or AHH HIS HOLSTER IS TO LOW or some shit

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      @@stabbed... But moaning about how beautiful the game is is acceptable? Lmao how does it taste?

    • @stabbed...
      @stabbed... 2 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison its only a game get a grip life moves on

    • @stabbed...
      @stabbed... 2 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison and if you really just cant handle the way john looks play in first person

  • @purpseatpeeps8641
    @purpseatpeeps8641 2 місяці тому

    This game has so much good about it, yet there are just so many things that Rockstar just fumbled, the ball was dropped so hard that it fell through the floor with things like Guarma and John. I really don’t understand why Rockstar felt the need to rush it so heavily, Cyberpunk took the opposite route of delaying whenever it needed to, and even then it came out in a terrible state and needed longer, just- for the love of god, let the devs finish their projects before you release them! Time and time again we’ve shown how badly it turns out when you don’t.

  • @SA-xl1tk
    @SA-xl1tk 2 місяці тому

    Botched plastic surgery

  • @Ferocious_Pizza
    @Ferocious_Pizza 2 місяці тому

    What pisses me off the most is that they don’t care about John OR online. They couldn’t even finish the first chapter of missions in online

  • @shadowbeatz5138
    @shadowbeatz5138 2 місяці тому

    "Im gonna cry online cause John isnt how i like him" ahh video

  • @logger22
    @logger22 2 місяці тому

    John’s character isn’t the issue. The writing makes sense for how he came to be in RD1 and his actor did a good job at portraying a younger version turning into a man. RD1 fans were just not used to that. As for his appearance, I agree it sucks in the epilogue as John looks too well kempt as opposed to his dirtier look in RD1 that fit the time period. Even in the main story John has his original hair

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      “The writing makes sense” no it doesn’t lmao. A ruthless punk kid who gets kidnapped a lot suddenly turns into a dumb ass who gets pushed around and stutters a lot to the same kid he was in 1899 but now wiser and bad ass? That’s horrible writing lol

    • @logger22
      @logger22 2 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison you’re not making much sense either lol at least sound cognitive before making a point lmao

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      @@logger22 Typical butthurt fanboy, completely ignore what was said that disproved their claim and instead say something stupid. Go back to school kiddo

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      @@logger22 Nah it makes perfect sense lol, you just refuse to accept it, typical fanboy mentality

    • @logger22
      @logger22 2 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison you mean knowing how having a family changes a man? You need to donate your brain to someone who can actually use it, like your mom.

  • @RebirthRavenIX
    @RebirthRavenIX 2 місяці тому

    John got nerfed

  • @CrimsonCTRL
    @CrimsonCTRL 2 місяці тому

    tbh hot take, but he looks fine, I liked playing as him in the epilogue and while I miss his more badass-ery type look, he's still younger in RDR2 and a lot can change over the years

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 2 місяці тому

      Then why does the npc younger John look like rdr1 John? Epilogue John is a lazy reskin of Arthur

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      That’s not a hot take, that’s simply a non existent take, if he’s really younger in rdr2 tell me how his 1899 model looks like a young rdr1 John while his 1907 epilogue model looks like a broken Arthur?

    • @afanas4635
      @afanas4635 2 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrisonHow could you

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      @@afanas4635 I sorry ;(

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 2 місяці тому

      @@afanas4635get outa here man!

  • @craig2196
    @craig2196 2 місяці тому

    I understand game development is hard, what was it really that hard to use John's model as the rig instead of Arthur's? Yeah you'd have to tweak it, but they tweaked it so they could make john textures, on Arthur's model and Rig. So why not just use John's model and then just tweak the rig so it doesn't clip as bad?! IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

    • @Sadrany
      @Sadrany 2 місяці тому

      john looks good, just keep him underweight

    • @craig2196
      @craig2196 2 місяці тому

      @@Sadrany if you thought that why are you watching a video about how awful the model is?

    • @Sadrany
      @Sadrany 2 місяці тому

      @@craig2196 saw it on my homepage and wanted to see if there were any major differences, problem?

    • @craig2196
      @craig2196 2 місяці тому

      @@Sadrany so you see 5 minutes of evidence of why John marston's player model is screwed up, and you're surprised that the comments under that video, are talking about how screwed up the model is. And no, Being underweight doesn't Fix the problems with the model, and even if it did it's still unacceptable that you have to starve your character just so he looks how he's kind of supposed to work. So far nothing about you makes sense.

    • @Sadrany
      @Sadrany 2 місяці тому

      @@craig2196 there arent any major problems stop

  • @craig2196
    @craig2196 2 місяці тому

    I understand game development is hard, what was it really that hard to use John's model as the rig instead of Arthur's? Yeah you'd have to tweak it, but they tweaked it so they could make john textures, on Arthur's model and Rig. So why not just use John's model and then just tweak the rig so it doesn't clip as bad?! IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 2 місяці тому

      Especially when John’s playable model and clothing are in the base game files, modders didn’t even do half the work they just implemented an already available fetch from the files

  • @ZombieSlayer-dj3wb
    @ZombieSlayer-dj3wb 3 місяці тому

    If thats the case Arthur should have never gotten tb and survied the game and make him , John and Charles should have been playable like in gta 5

  • @KraTu7
    @KraTu7 3 місяці тому

    RRD 2 it's not John Marston's game, it's Arthur Morgan's, if you want to play rdr 1, so just go and play rdr 1

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      That’s a brain dead reason lmao. It doesn’t matter if it’s Arthur’s game (which it isn’t it’s still John’s because it’s his story) John should look and act like himself not a lazy Arthur reskin. It’s lazy and embarrassing for someone like rockstar to do this. Also by your mentality everyone should look like Arthur because it’s his game anyways

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 3 місяці тому

      But rdr2 is John’s story through the eyes of Arthur a cheap knockoff of rdr1 John, John has always been the main Character of the red dead series

    • @afanas4635
      @afanas4635 3 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrisonGo outside lil bro

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      @@afanas4635 Go get a girlfriend you man baby

    • @afanas4635
      @afanas4635 3 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison The man baby is the guy who has 100+ comments on a channel that has 3 video’s 😂

  • @Mu3tasem77
    @Mu3tasem77 3 місяці тому

    وتيجي تقولي انا وانا والحديد اتنا

  • @velocity7786
    @velocity7786 3 місяці тому

    1899: young john marston Epilogue: Juan Martin RDR1: john marston

  • @NOTTHEBIGCHEESE
    @NOTTHEBIGCHEESE 3 місяці тому

    Ik it would be lazy Ik but why not just let us have his 1899 npc look???

  • @afanas4635
    @afanas4635 3 місяці тому

    Thats crazy, don’t care

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      Don’t watch the video then

    • @afanas4635
      @afanas4635 3 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison Finally a comment from the number one d rider in this channel its an honor

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      @@afanas4635 Funny I could say the same about your mom

    • @afanas4635
      @afanas4635 3 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison That was corny skip to middle school study dude or maybe just keep riding this meat 100+ on one video is pathetic.

    • @afanas4635
      @afanas4635 3 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison 🥩

  • @Mr.Napalm
    @Mr.Napalm 3 місяці тому

    It’s literally just hair. Get over it.

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      Mf didn’t watch the video yet still commented lmao

    • @Mr.Napalm
      @Mr.Napalm 3 місяці тому

      @@BeatleHarrison seen it twice. LMAO.

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 3 місяці тому

      Arthur’s face but wide and his body fully Arthur and his proportions, Arthur’s beard/blurry beard textures, Arthurs’s hair, baggy clothes, soulless eyes, surprised look 😐, broken facial animations. Plus a ton of other issues especially clothes clipping ext.

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      @@Mr.NapalmLMAO that’s not true because you wouldn’t be saying that if you did LMAO LMAO

    • @BB-ng5bf
      @BB-ng5bf 3 місяці тому

      @@Mr.NapalmIt’s almost time to start pumping the cream, son

  • @Bugplanet8840
    @Bugplanet8840 3 місяці тому

    1.00 is great for console since it’s John’s face on Arthurs head and it’s Arthur’s body model with slight tweaks with John’s proportions, his beard up to level 3 is his own, and his clothes fit, John’s angry look 😠, and finally working animations. Meanwhile the current version with tons of corruption due to updates make him worse, Arthur’s face but wide and his body fully Arthur and his proportions, Arthur’s beard/blurry beard textures, baggy clothes, soulless eyes, surprised look 😐, baggy clothes, broken facial animations. Plus a ton of other issues especially clothes clipping ext. And ofcourse pc has John Marston restored and enhanced to bring back John to his full glory.

  • @NOTTHEBIGCHEESE
    @NOTTHEBIGCHEESE 3 місяці тому

    I’ve never played RDR but John just don’t look like John for some reason😮

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      You don’t need to play rdr1 to see how ugly John is in the epilogue

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 3 місяці тому

      Yup your right, it’s Arthur’s face but wide with John’s textures and his body fully Arthur and his proportions, Arthur’s beard/blurry beard textures, baggy clothes, soulless eyes, surprised look 😐, broken facial animations. Plus a ton of other issues especially clothes clipping ext.

  • @NateS917
    @NateS917 3 місяці тому

    These things never bothered me at all. If you wanna play as rdr1 john then play rdr1

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      It’s not about him looking like rdr1 John or not lmao. It’s about his epilogue model being a lazy reskin of Arthur instead of just making him look like John

    • @Bugplanet8840
      @Bugplanet8840 2 місяці тому

      If you want to play a game play outside type logic morn

  • @biscuitman.
    @biscuitman. 3 місяці тому

    ok but it’s not fair making john maximum weight on the thumbnail

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 3 місяці тому

      That’s not maximum weight John, that’s literally normal weight John. His epilogue model is just that ugly that his jaw and chin are oversized

    • @biscuitman.
      @biscuitman. 2 місяці тому

      what the video, again you can clearly see he looks nothing like he does in the thumbnail

    • @biscuitman.
      @biscuitman. 2 місяці тому

      The only issue I think is the hairstyle, ruins the John Marston kinda thing. But even if you just put a hat on you can hardly tell.

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      @@biscuitman.you do realize the video is just a compilation of different images of John in different sizes right? They’re not the same player’s model on the thumbnail

    • @BeatleHarrison
      @BeatleHarrison 2 місяці тому

      @@biscuitman.No the whole issue is his model is Arthur lol, he’s big like Arthur and they share the same exact hairstyles and body type. Hats don’t fix any of that lol