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@rogueone5711 I said gief was fine.....we can both agree that sum things like headbut takes a little too much Drive gauge and even after the dmg nerf he still FCKN HURTS!!!!....edit: even against the 2 kings gief can def Rob them lol

@@GoSpawn_ he’s supposed to do damage. He’s a grappler. If Potemkin or reiko did little damage then there would be no real reason to play them. Grapplers have some of the worst matchups against characters like Jp, dhalsim, blanka and rashid. And maybe terry or maybe I’m just bad against terry

@rogueone5711 ...even if gief did ok damage from a strike....he would still thrive....look at sf4 gief his reward on hit was just "ok" and he was arguably top 3 there cause the command grab threat.... developers want grapplers to do high dmg so there reward matches the option they did (strike/throw) since they loose oki from both options....and I think gief wins against Blanka slightly since blanka comes to gief anyway so it makes giefs gameplay alot easier

@ his command grabs were hard knockdowns and had amazing oki. He could land a grab, green hand back in, set up another mixup. Not to mention the tool that was ex green hand and then ref focus which led to a hard knockdown due to atomic buster. Sf4 gief is a different kind of monster compared to sf6 gief. He has arguably the best use of meter and red focus in sf4. He could touch you once, get in instantly, set up again and do it all over again. Sf6 gief doesn’t have a move like green hand, and some amazing oki after each grab. Sf6 gief has a slower Lariet, no wake-up tool, lvl1 super doesn’t count cause it sucks as a wakeup. A terrible counter and moves that are slow and pokes that lose to others. I think he’s a fine character where he is and we should leave gief alone. If they nerfed his damage, make his counter work on more stuff, give him the ability to dash cancel certain things like counter or lvl 2 super or something

@rogueone5711 my point is in sf4 gief got no oki on knock down from a strike (ok damage)...sure green hand was there but it wasn't a guaranteed mixup unless he spent meter which gief always did....but in sf6 he does 4x the damage on strike AND!!! gets oki from it... look at manon I would say she has a little more trouble getting in than gief cause her DR IS ASSSS!!!!!... she barely gets dmg and barely gets oki...until she gets 4 or 5 metals her momentum ride is lack luster as a grappler cause she gives u multiple chances after a knockdown to live.....not saying gief should be like that but let one option outweigh the other since his most damaging option just so happens to give him oki...he's can basically 2 touch any character except for himself ofc....that all I'm saying

That's a good rebuttal saying "it's too early" only reason I say this is cause Terry is no threat any where on the screen...i would say his strongest is when he throws power wave and immediately into plus burn knuckle...but even that has lots of weakness...and he has low 4 into DR But who doesn't have that u know...again like u said it is too early but that just my exlerince with Terry in tournaments

@ Fair point. One thing I’m not sure if mentioned or not is that holds terry far back is the holes in his kit. S.Hp is great for combos but real stubby compared to most of the cast, also his sweep is bad being 11 frames compared to Ken who has a 9 frame sweep. Terry is lacking on a lot of privileges when compared to the other shotos

@@FireBallJack_ I actually didn't pay attention to that.....appreciate the insight

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It's still ass

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@versatilelord8893 yea the downplay be going crazy

@stuckwchuck ....every character that is in S tier in this list has a high powercrush.....there are only a hand full of characters that can punish high power crushes...once u "COMMIT!!!!!!!!" to a button...like Victor's power crush is slower than Feng but it still very hard to counter cause only about 3 to 5 character can consistently counter when they "COMMIT!!!" To a button..which means you tweeted without thinking...cause i literally mentioned the rules

@@GoSpawn_ victors is faster than fengs

@@Chaoblahippoin my opinion victor’s is still better because he’s lunging forward and with proper spacing you’ll practically never whiff it

@@GoSpawn_ G, calm down lol. I didn't ignore your rules, I simply stated my opinion.

@@Chaoblahippo Feng also does a weird step with his crush that get's profiled by a good portion of the casts' evasive mids so even with commitment, you better hope the game doesn't send you off the left too far.

@azazel7505 your characters strength is determined by how strong their heat is which why dragonov, Feng, nina, shaheen are top tiers....and power crushes aren't meant to be spammed...it's a get off me tool you use it when the opponent is over-extedning...and since it heat engages this allows for crazy comebacks...like I said before heat is the name of the game

It is because it has insane range and it’s kind of evasive

@cptmacmillan1111 yeaa my mistake....got a script for kazuya and ended up using it for the wrong video my mistake

@ Ahhhhh okay. Dang I thought I missed a patch or maybe there's a secret Kazuya tech i don't know.

@@f2pdalamix nope kazuya's.....MID POWERCRUSH!!!....Is only -8 or -9...and I'm not talking about a stance powercrush...I'm talking just a RAW powercrush in neutral... test it out yourself

@@GoSpawn_ f2 is -13 on block and has no heat engager properties, you sure man..?

@f2pdalamix are we talking about the same one...the one when he turns into devil kazuya for a sec..n hits you with a back fist....I went through all the the characters powercrush 1 by 1....and jotted down notes...and wrote a script maybe I made a mistake

​@@GoSpawn_ Oh yeah in heat he has another powercrush, 1+4 It beats heat bursts and normal power crushes I think, and is safe at -9 Wallsplats grounded opponents but it also eats up a third of his heat bar, I'd rank it in the S-tier def but ain't no powercrush heat engager on Kazuya lol

@f2pdalamix you're right...I accidentally grabbed the wrong script for kazuya....my bad for the false info thanks for looking out

@@shadowofthenorthstar989 it's soo retarded...the problem I have with it is that...there is no indication that they might do it...if ur right...neutral is reset....but if you're wrong they get +17 on hit and/or 25% of your health even if they fucked up they still get +5 its soo dumb

Yeah that needs to be one of the first changes to the game I’m fine armor moves & engagers but armor moves shouldn’t heat engage Heat engage should only happen off of a hard earned whiff punish

@hasanjaafar7391 And this video was uploaded a week ago...so it's not unfortunate....it how time literally fckn works...either you are naive or you just a complete retard

@versatilelord8893 I wouldn't necessarily say shaheen is a hard read character....his whole tool-kit is like a mini bryan..."am I gonna finish the the string that's a safe CH Launcher or heat engages or am I gonna cancel into stealth and mix you up"...strings like DB,2,1 Heat engage or stealth stance...FC, DF,4,1 safe Homing counter hit launcher, or cancel into stealth...only weakness I would say for shaheen is his DMG....the opponent can guess 4 to 7 times against shaheen...but against dragonuv or nina u can only get hit twice most of the time....but everything else you just said is spot on

@@GoSpawn_ by hard read everything I mean on defense. His punch parry is not enough imo It’s hard to deal with certain characters without a solid reversal or some kind of evasion or movement stance cuz you’ll be blocking & guessing too much a lot of the time He does have one of the best armor moves in the game. Probably a top 5 armor move but they be beat by jabs, throws & lows so eh. But it is amazing tho im not gonna lie

@@versatilelord8893 yeaa...I'm starting to think characters with mid armor moves, that heat engages will eventually become the meta....like raven has a homing, Mid, half screen reaching, heat engaging power crush....t8 is about aggression but being able to make the opponent hesitate in attacking in a game of rush down is a huge feat...which 1 reason I think raven is VERY!!!....slept on

@Kazuyante1012 I was thinking the same thing....especially since heihachi launched...but she's in a pretty decent spot...spite her mediocre fan boys and girls (mostly guys)

Claudio, Shaheen, Kuma, leroy??...that's 4 heavy hitters right there.....but not to mention bryan is top 5 and is considered one of the most technical If NOT...The most technical....while I want to agree with u...that's just not the case here

I still usually come across Jun players online too Not necessarily as much as before but I still do

@kojimbo2931 yea those 3 are insanely strong and annoying to fight ....and yet they are fairly low

Xiaoyu is one thing she's harder to execute than most players will ever tell you(Believe me I'm trying to learn Xiaoyu & its atrocious) Nina and Feng is an entirely different story since they take a lot less to pull off.

@@vapersmith7859 Oh I see, thanks for clarifying! I'm still pretty new and see a lot of players complain about Ling so I assumed she was more popular lol

@@kojimbo2931 Xiaoyu is popular with some of the hard core players though in Tournament the difficulty of her execution makes her FAR less popular than easier to execute characters like Dragunov, Alisa & others.

@@JakesSupport good looks my guy

@yellowscarlightningscream8347 this is a casual perspective the 1st two graph were all of ranked players including flame ruler and even tenryu ....also note pro players are important because they keep the game alive n they showcase who are our top tiers

@GoSpawn_ I know, but there are certain takes that the player below Tekken God will not understand. Pro players are only 5% of the player base and you cannot design a meta solely around them.

@yellowscarlightningscream8347 but they can and will create the meta...just like you said casuals don't know what to do...u think they are gonna create it no...they look at the pros for guidance...look at ninjakilla nobody was playing law..until he won a huge tourney...casuals saw that and played him which is why his popularity sky rocketed as u seen the the video

@yellowscarlightningscream8347 I have to disagree with that....if they were so easy...their win rate would be one of the highest...In fact both kazuya and reina has the LOWEST!....Win rate in the game...im not saying they are hard...but they aren't easy either

he was always like this because he is fan favourite even if he is ass.

He’s historically always been a good and popular character, but if he stays as weak as he is now or is somehow made even weaker in T9 I would start to worry for his popularity

@TheSLashera steve still a little bit of love...buff wise but he's become alot stronger than what he was...which is always a plus

@@Lay_rue442Steve ain’t weak at all man No character with god tier neutral game, ch’s, movement/evasion and frame tight whiff punishment could ever be bad

Because he’s a specialist character

@@versatilelord8893 a character that is good at everything (except maybe punishment) is not a specialist character lol

@@Lay_rue442 just because a character is very well rounded in a lot of areas does not mean that they’re easy to optimize at maximum potential. If that was the case then every damn pro would would have a pocket feng like they probably do with dragunov but they don’t

@@versatilelord8893 the only reason more pros don’t have a pocket Feng is because Dragunov is even stronger and even easier right now, but that might not be the case after end of season nerfs. And if you think Feng is a specialist character, would you say Jin is a specialist character too, since he can do everything just like Feng but to an even better quality?

​@@Lay_rue442 Feng is decent at everything and his damage in certain situations is good, but thats about it. He shouldn't have any glaring weaknesses, as the properties of certain moves are not as strong as they were in T7. Feng suits this game well, but he suits T7 even more, more defensive style, laming people out and being extremely passive aggressive, etc. When Knee fought that Pakistani Geese in T7, that was the best tekken id watched since T5. More of a chess match, than flow chart 50/50 rinse and repeat lol.

Law is very popular. In t8 he has more players because he is easier to use now.

@@JunKazama-t1p ohh fk....u coming after me aren't u?

@@GoSpawn_ I promise wouldn't coming after you

@@JunKazama-t1p put that on jin's life? 👀...I'm joking 🤦🏾‍♂️

You know he gone see this and wanna scrap lol?

@@GoSpawn_ and I’ll bop his shit again with no match up knowledge

Drink?

@fuman7057 yea lots of people sleep on Shaheen....I also fxked up by putting claudio pretty low...but question.. your bottom 5 that u listed I got 3 of them correct..but by your list u think panda is better than Coffee queen?

​@@GoSpawn_ I do think Azucena is worse than Panda. Azucena got nerfed pretty badly and Bears kit is now better than Azucena’s. Panda is basically 90% the same as Kuma, but just worse due to smaller hitboxes and a worse Heat. Azucena has extreme difficulty approaching now after the wr32 nerf and her poking is below average due to nerfs to her main pre-patch pokes.

@@fuman7057 her poking was wayyy too strong...having safe strings with multiple extension to keep you in check...but the checks were also safe counter hit launchers needed to go...that's why we have characters like nina...coffee queens running 3, 2 string needed to go she shouldn't get a guaranteed mixup from a 13f (I think) plus on block natural combo wall splat normal that had Hella tracking...her 1, 1 is still one of the best punishes in game her df1 is still one of the best checks in the game due to the extensions...she's just a regular tekken character now with a little risk as it should be....but we all have opinions...it's just good to express our thoughts without conflict

I meant 14f I got to excited lol and it does matter that dragnov has a 14f launcher...due to his immense frames...so 10f launcher or not its dragonov

@@GoSpawn_ I figured that's what you meant, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something with him lol I agree with a lot of the list and I understand its a long video so things can be get mixed up, also you said Law has a 10f launcher and can be used as a punisher but that's also not true, it's a 10f 'counter' hit launcher. He's also not the only one who has that. Yoshi just needs your back on the wall to launch with 10f just like Heihachi will when he comes out

Get tf out my comments quis...before I post a Pic of ya foot...when that bihh was on dat lean

Wow ngga lol

ppl also say shes way harder than she is. shes kinda technical but you dont need the super hard combos to be good lmao. the ss cancels are kinda annoying but spend 15 mins with them and youll be fine

@BlaqPharaoh stop watching the video den wit yo big jay-z lip ahh...zummo sausage back ahh ..better yet drop ya gamer tag im tired of asking

@@BlaqPharaoh WHERES THE GAMER TAG!!!!

@lowlifelenny yes I always let yoshi come to me.....so what do you do about flash...you want me to wait for yoshi to do flash...or just swing whenever...either way I still have to play around flash no?

yoshi players be like "yeah just never press against yoshi"

@Sam-gf3kh you know what I mean?? Like cmon now bro yoshi players be buggin....it seems like every character is better than their character

@@GoSpawn_ I mean it's still just a regular move, so if you think it's coming, block it. If you start a string and it gets blocked, cut it off. He only has time to flash your slow moves and he has to be close. Keep your distance and bait him. Yeah you have to play around flash same way you have to play around Zangief's SPD. He's looking for the opportunity so don't give it to him.

@lowlifelenny no You don't have to play around giefs SPD LOL that was horrible analogy but ok

@niar1126 yeaa the only thing lars has that's kinda broken is dynamic entry 3 being +5...

@@Cheis_ damn dood of I make it big I swear I'd hire u lol

@@GoSpawn_ i got you homie

Thx for the correction

Hworang can use some love....even though everyone hate Hworang (Which is base) but that's equivalent to kicking a man while he's down

@@SupervelocenoV even if he has u at the wall??

@@Kojot7103I struggle against Kuma sooooo hard dude