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The whole argument in this video is quite uncomfortable to watch and I think was a sign that Wafflin was coming to an end. The whole vibe of Wafflin was bantering each other and taking the piss out of themselves. When Theo had injuries that would prevent him from making the videos he wanted to, Joe would take the piss. When Theo got out of a 7 YEAR relationship, Joe took the piss. All Theo and Luke were saying was that if Joe wants to sign for a major record label making proper industry tunes, he would need to sanitise his image a bit. Joe then ended up getting kicked off his label without releasing any tunes due to the "World Cup Song". His old stuff ended up spoiling that musical path he was going down. Joe saying that Theo is not his mate is fucked. He was so close to ruining a childhood friendship because he simply couldn't control his ego and admit that Kitty isn't a certified club banger.

i see why it ended now wtf

oi joe you sweet you seemed triggered

Tbh everyone in the comments is wrong. Joe is clearly insecure and that isn’t something to point and laugh at, which is basically what Theo did (whether it was intentional or not). There’s banter and all that which is fine but it really isn’t hard to spot that Joe didn’t like the topic, it wasn’t worth going any deeper down it just to end up here 😂

I 100% feel the same way as Joe I feel bad for him man smh friends be like that

Wow what a throwback. I was on the Patreon and I was the one who suggested the one at 10:06 I miss this podcast so much

Theo is now what Joe wishes he became but he’s too insecure to give it a proper go back on UA-cam. He just needs to make consistent content again

People saying joe was so confrontational is wrong completely. If you’re trying to get a point across and there’s people literally laughing in your face calling you triggered for something you’re clearly passionate about then of course joe will get confrontational. For them to not understand how joe felt is just ignorant and the fact they just start laughing at him for it is just not it.

Strange that Luke and Theo find it so hard to accept that Joe would rather remain the person that got him where he is today than go full on mainstream robot

I agree that Weller has an ego but it’s less about that and more about Joe not censoring his true nature and character. Theo Baker, a man who dies inside when he is referred to as Malfoy, the name that made him, would never understand why Joe would rather stay true to his roots and who he is instead of turning into a mainstream robot with none of his character intact. Theo moved to London and sucked off the sidemen to go mainstream and is terrified of being viewed as cringe from his past vids. It’s a bit like having a friend who’s slightly eccentric but you’ve got him an invite to a party and tell him to just tone it down a bit, so you can impress the people there. But in doing so you completely devalue your friends worth and character because they may seem strange to others. There is no life worth living if you cannot be true to your nature.

Theo looks like he’s pinging in some parts

Liked and subbed. disable throat length

Was this the last patreon episode they did?

27:40 tyler angry

this is a horrendous ep! was this actually from patreon?? so happy i never subscribed! i used to love wafflin' met Luke once in Brighton

What everyone’s going on about was about 10:00 to 13:10

Definitely gotta keep your music and image authentic there isn’t enough of it these days

Big up weller making grime beats 🤣🔥

When was this ep originally uploaded?

God this was actually insufferable

love you lukey xx

Respec

Joe mocks Theo 24/7. He can’t take it back tho.

Joe is so insecure bro it’s sad I used to love his videos but since falling off he’s become so much more unlikeable

Joes a freak mate

This was an awkward watch Joe is very insecure just doesn't like to be told the truth sad really I loved this podcast

The major issue here is that Joe is very insecure and Theo likes to take the piss. Joe wants reassurance whereas Theo would rather be honest and Joe sees this as him being unsupportive

I truly think Wafflin ending was a decision they all made to save their friendship. The last few episodes were very awkward and uncomfortable at points, and this argument here shows that they would fall out when talking about certain topics. Being forced to sit down and talk for an hour even after an argument isn’t very healthy. They ended the show so that this stuff wouldn’t happen because they want to remain friends still.

When are these from?

Joe was really missing the point here. They weren't picking on him when they said new audiences might find his old stuff to be weird. What they mean is, when signed to a major label the creative outlet is diminished as radio tracks are extremely unrelenting in structure and sound. Not to mention Polydor are known to be the most guilty of printing out industry babies and repressing their talent.

Kicks off at 8:10 and continues at 32:30

It is a bit of a shame to hear this, because the actual wafflin episode before this is so funny, it’s one of my favourites. I don’t really care about the argument itself, it’s just a bit of a downer:(

His music is shit. End of.

3 weird lads. What is Malfoy wearing. Sorry I forget his actual name and cba finding out now

time stamp for when Joe got angry?

My mannn

Fully agree with joe theo was possing me off aswell laughing like a little girl .when joe tries to have a serious conversation ,melt.

1:39 All timer Baker moment

What where they referencing anyway? When was the moment joe was offended before?

Looks like Theo's obnoxious behaviour finally caught up with him here. (Though he didn't do TOO much wrong in this instance)

Joe was being so confrontational for no reason, really weird. I like him but he was being super insecure when he’s the one who brutally bantered Theo all the time. Makes sense why Theo wanted to discontinue the pod tbh

TBF Theo laughing at Joe is nobhead behaviour.

32:38 for the argument.

There was an unhealthy amount of tension and forced banter in the last series of Wafflin. I didn’t realise it was this bad, this was definitely the final nail in the coffin. Had the boys continued Wafflin, I think their relationships would’ve genuinely ended. The boys haven’t had a lot to do with each other since Wafflin ended, and it’s only been the last few months they’ve began making content with each other again.

i miss this pod so much

i really do see both sides of the story but im still going to side with theo on this one. at no point did joe say 'no guys can we be serious for second' and they would have stopped the banter to talk serious but Theo was still in content mode taking the piss like he always does. remember when joe talks about the stones. its the same sort of vibe. also, joe saying 'youre not my mate' and 'you dont get me' really did not help the situation. he jumped straight to the conclusion of 'youre not taking me seriosuly' while theo wasnt ready for the conversation yet.

sounds to me that joe takes everything to heart..

The ending is so awkward, Joe loves to control the narrative when Theo gives a valid explanation of his side, asks Joe to explain he then realises he’s being ridiculous and gives the generic nah doesn’t matter mate. The reason the dynamic didn’t work is because Joe seemingly loves being the main character!

Maybe I am wrong but Joe is right, there is a reason he is the biggest of the three. Satisfaction = Longevity, if Joe is happy making different genres so be it. This is coming from an outsider that does not really watch these podcasts ever.

na joes right tbh