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I wonder if any of the folks on the call are familiar with needs-based economy? Aka often as Ghandian Economy? That seems to match natural systems' principles of reciprocity, grounding, regeneration, care and solidarity. Also, I didn't hear anyone mention Participatory Budgeting as a strategy in business, orgs, or networks, but it's one I thought of.

Another version of solidarity could be seen in the care that trees and plants take of each other. Sending chemicals and nutrients to sick members, sending chemicals for pest deterrent when pets are detected, canopy space. Things like that. Update… this came up later in the convo.

Excellent concise explanation of practical proven distinctions, in the 70+ year old ontological tradition, to shift narratives of self, others and worlds! Wakan Gli ~ Gil Friend you rockl

Great summary of 'talk and action flowing, organizational surfing with balanced technique to create flow to achieve organizational goals.... I hope you are well Gil!

Yea, Great call! Thanks!

FYI What I’ve been doing, hoping to help, is getting to the bottom of why physics represents life with equations and life behaves nothing like equations. It’s a great story, explaining why people today are so confused by life, and trying solutions making our problems ever worse!

Of course, it takes a different method to get nature to tell us what she really cares about that causes her to be on the verge of destroying our next great civilization, like the one’s before.

Yes! Do ask opponents, what their cares really are.!

We’re ready for a shift, a life change, from a compulsive global growth maximizing system, in the process of destroying the resources it relies on… to a caregiving system, converting the purpose of organizing the same resources, for the purpose of seeking a good life, rather ever more power over life.

To answer the intervention point observationally, you could ask what it is in our present world that makes it so open ti intervention of a mobster fabulist like Trump? That would get people thinking about what system intervention is really about.

And… growth, a continual direction taking process is not on her list!! :-)

So nice to hear your meaning for “Living Between Worlds.” My puzzle with Donnella’s list of intervention points has always been that they they were a quick list she wrote down when asked, and most or all don’t refer to tipping points, but outcomes. We should talk about how people can open themselves to opportunities.

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Yes, be in relationship with the system of life, connection with the earth is key! Bill what a wonderful legacy sir. What will create this movement...consciousness. The love of life, the love of one another, the love of our planet and the love of all that is. Thank you Bill, your work is moving toward a better, loving and more sustainable world. ♥ Thank you all for your contributions.

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Consciousness and relationship to everything is where our power is. Thoughts, feelings, words and actions these 4 magnificent, manifesting words create everything, singularly and collectively. Humanity must realize this in order to see tremendous change. Thank you all for caring so much!

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Tikkun as "tuning" and Peter Yaholovsky talking about "resonance" in a group going in the same direction.

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Dear Gil, Excellent interview including comments & questions. My only disappointment is the ongoing insistence that "if only we tried real capitalism..." things could be better. Crying out for more diverse viewpoints won't bring in the perspective of those who have been marginalized and brutalized by the logic of capitalism -- as it is really implemented in our world. True economic and political democracy are really incompatible with the basic assumptions and philosophical underpinnings of capitalism, including (but not limited to) enclosure of the commons (aka private property rights), neo-darwinian competition as the driver of evolution, reductionist science as the only valid form of knowledge, and more. I don't oppose any of the "buying time" tactics of efficiency or working with enlightened businesses to appeal to their self-interest. It seems abundantly clear to me that the grow or die logic of capitalism inherently requires expansion (aka colonialism) which inevitably means theft of land and labor, violence, and other unspeakable crimes against humanity and the planet. I'll stop here -- but am happy to engage the discussion, and know you and your network offer a wealth of brilliant and creative ideas -- we go way back! Respect and gratitude, Grace

Why do I seem to see no response to the root problem, our multiplying solutions till they're the problem. Has anyone studied the ones you're talking about for that?

If I were a leader with influence I could imagine applying some of the suggestions herein. I hope that is what I would do. But in everyday life I am not a leader nor a person of influence, yet I care deeply about climate change. When I bring up the subject, though, friends and people in general shy away from discussion. I know this is not necessarily because they do not want change, but because they feel implementing that change is either beyond them or requires they give time to a cause in a direct way--which interrupts their lives. So like Klaus Mager I want to know better how to alter that outlook--not by persuasion, which is forceful, but by explaining the climate needs in a cooperative way that they cannot help but feel personally. It is essential to leave anything adversarial out of the equation. Otherwise, the conversation is swept into a political divide and my effort makes no difference at all. If I could discover how to negotiate a point of view that reached them personally, that didn't stop or shut out the conversation, it would be grand, for it thus offers them a way to navigate the cause with enthusiasm, with a desire to know more, with a belief we are meant to solve this together in an overriding cooperative way--to recognize we are a participant in the earth's presence, and that we deserve to experience this with joy.

So much of this echoes my personal thoughts. So glad to have found this channel. I have been so frustrated and feeling alone in my thoughts. I signed up for the next Zoom session. I am so hoping that this group can be the tinder that starts a bonfire of global transformation!!! I'm here for it! It's so needed. If everyone could have this group's mindset, imagine how much progress in the needed direction could be made.❤️‍🔥

Love This.

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Came to UA-cam from LinkedIn. I appreciated a wonderful presentation by Bill and thoughtful discussion facilitated by Gil. I subscribed to future events as well.

Hey, Gil. Had to add a too long comment to your LinkedIn post on IISB's definition of "Sustainability" which IMO is really ESG. Confusing "sustainable values" with new lenses for capital markets to "sustain value creation" sows distrust and confusion that slows progress. Hope you're well old friend!

nate hagens. the great simplification.

What link and why 1:1 instead of group sessions?

Brilliant elucidation, Mr Friend 👌👌 Thank you.

Great video 🙏🏻 thanks for the insights

Actually, we are already in climate collapse, When you are felling a tree, and the wedges are in the cut, the tree is already in the process of falling even though it hasn't moved yet. No one designs institutions. Institutions evolve independently of either central planning or deliberation. I'm always amazed when people pull out the "don't let the good be the enemy of the perfect" when it is the other way around. The perfect is the enemy of the good. Believing that the next generation are going to be the superheroes who solve our dilemmas is just another Deux ex Machina in a long line of ersatz divine interventions that are always going to save us from ourselves as the very last moment or, as the saying goes, in the nick of time. The people who WILL solve the problems we face aren't the ones who are out in the streets. They are sitting in classrooms and laboratories trying to figure out how to get their ideas funded. The most important thing you said discloses an important fact: Governments are no longer in charge of their own destinies. Corporations are now the driving force behind the status quo which means they are also the driving force behind change, and the financial corporations will drive all others.

Gil always creates powerful conversations around the most critical issue of our time - our climate emergency. He is also a gifted moderator: his style of questioning naturally leads participants to dig deeper than they might have intended, revealing new discoveries and truths. I always come away from these conversations with new perspectives.

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Excellent! very hopeful message.

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