Nicholas Brandon (Nick Brandon)
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IT and Telecoms Suppliers - Why are they not proactive?
Good morning everyone. It's Nick Brandon from tecwork. Hope everyone's well this Friday morning, had a good week, enjoying the football, et cetera. This week we've had three new business meetings and one of them was interesting in so much as there was a recurring theme that we keep coming across with new customers.
Now this particular business has 3 offices in and around the South East, they've got 48 members of staff, they've got a phone system that doesn't really work that well for them, they've not really had any training. They don't know what kinds of things it can do really, it was just thrown in, and their #ITsystem they've had for a while and they've had a couple of goes at reviewing it all. It's quite complicated because they have to keep a server on one of their premises and it's quite slow. They have to remote desktop into it because of one of the applications they're using because their software provider hasn't got up to date with offering web-based services. So they have to keep their server, which means that things are quite slow, people are using it and it's not really working that quickly and they haven't really had a proper review of their various internet connections that they're using. And also they can't really use Teams properly and the benefits of Microsoft Cloud because they're still having to remote desktop into their server. So things don't really work with all audio when you are remote desktopping.
But what I wanted to say was that the common theme that we find with a lot of new businesses that we speak to is that their #providers aren't proactive. They're just not proactive. They don't really keep in that much regular contact with them. They fix things when they go wrong and they don't like leaving their office to come out and see the customers. They prefer to do things remotely and they don't often come up with review meetings or new ways of doing stuff. And we find that a lot with IT companies particularly. They tend to just fix stuff when it goes wrong, take the money, hopefully they fix it reasonably quickly. Some of them don't.
But the main thing is they're not proactive and they don't keep in touch with the customer very often with new stuff, with reviews and things. And on the telecom side, it's almost worse because they tend to throw the phone systems in without much care and attention, without much training, let the users get on with it and then five years later, get in touch with them when the contract's up for renewal. So it's really a common theme. I just wanted to share that with you. We find it again and again and again. We are trying to buck the trend over the last seven years with tecwork. We're trying to do the opposite of that. We're trying to provide wow factor support, we're trying to be proactive with customers, keeping in touch with them regularly, not just offering them the stuff that we're comfortable with because we're comfortable with it because we can't be bothered to learn the new stuff. We offer people new stuff if we think it's a fit for them for whatever reason. That might be because of lower costs, better efficiency, better security.
So I just wanted to share that with you. If you are feeling neglected by your IT and #telecomsprovider because of some of the reasons that I've mentioned previously, please do give us a call. We're tecwork, 01892 578666.
You can email us at helpme@tecwork, or visit our website, which is www.tecwork.co.uk. I'd normally have the board up on my wall so you can see our website address but we are moving soon so it's all been taken down. So the office is a bit of a mess. But have a lovely day everyone. Thank you. Bye-bye.
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  • @erikgarcia3778
    @erikgarcia3778 18 годин тому

    After hurricanes landlines are becoming popular again

  • @alanrobbo6980
    @alanrobbo6980 10 днів тому

    What a Fraking SCAM. Millions will have to Buy New Phones. I Wish I Had Shares in the Phone Manufacturers 💷💷💷💷💰

  • @flynnscadeng6365
    @flynnscadeng6365 20 днів тому

    Just started in the industry and this was really useful for understanding some fundamentals- thank you!

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 20 днів тому

      @@flynnscadeng6365 excellent 👍 . Glad to help you. If you need any more help let me know.

  • @voiceofjeff
    @voiceofjeff 3 місяці тому

    By saying a "normal phone line", you should say an analog line, a "copper pair", or POTS service. These days, a "normal" phone line is anything from the old school copper pair, to a fiber optic connection. And when they come and tell my 85 year old mom that she has to go to something different than the phone that she's used for decades (yes, she still has a touch-tone wall phone in her kitchen!), she's going to go ballistic on you!

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 3 місяці тому

      Don’t shoot the messenger. Blame the powers that be. 👍

  • @maxthemagition
    @maxthemagition 3 місяці тому

    I’m sticking with my copper line as long as possible. You see I get broadband along my copper feed into my house. So my telephone works as normal with it’s feed of 50v from the local exchange and I get broadband at 50Mb/s which is more than enough for my purposes. ( why people want a faster broadband service is beyond me other than to play on line games). I like the copper fed telephone because it is private and has a good ring throughout my house and is good for emergency use especially if the power fails. It frees me from having a Mobile phone which I find a nuisance. I can also have several extensions which you cannot with fibre. VOIP is now the norm with fibre which is very cheap nearly no cost at all for calls yet the fibre providers charge for the telephone or talk facility! Stick with copper, because when it is gone, it is gone forever!

  • @Bruce-vq7ni
    @Bruce-vq7ni 4 місяці тому

    But who needs a landline in the mid 2020s - Have you folks not heard of mobile phones.. 😎

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 4 місяці тому

      Many elderly people rely solely on landlines as do their medical pendants to make emergency calls

  • @Helgardt6189
    @Helgardt6189 4 місяці тому

    In South Africa all the copper landlines are stolen anyway and not repaired by Telkom…so this will be good news.We hardly have anyone using landlines anymore.

  • @hughoneill9929
    @hughoneill9929 5 місяців тому

    I'd be very interested to know if our national and local security and emergency services will be ditching the present fully functioning systems for a totally IP based one with all its limitations. I see IP unreliability all the time with drop-outs being frequent occurrences.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 5 місяців тому

      Not certain but would imagine they are all on IP with DR built in.

    • @hughoneill9929
      @hughoneill9929 5 місяців тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 In that case, much more readily hackable remotely than Strowger, Cross-bar or System X. I used to work on designs at GEC Telecoms back in the day.

  • @jannertfol
    @jannertfol 5 місяців тому

    Just got switched to VOIP against our will, and it's not good. We've only had it a month and already it's gone off for several hours. It's not just the electricity that's an issue. If your broadband goes down, the phone goes dead ...even if your electricity supply is working fine. And while you can get your extensions to work, via adaptors or getting a digital handset ...the extensions no longer connect to each other! In other words, if the phone rings downstairs and somebody answers it there, but the call is for you and you are upstairs, you can't pick up the call on your upstairs extension any more. Either that person needs to phone you back, or you have to phone THEM back ...or you have to come downstairs and take the call on the phone that was answered first. The company seems to think this is all fine because 'everybody has a mobile phone these days.' Erm. NO, they don't. But IF you don't you have absolutely no way to contact anybody during a broadband outage or an electricity cut-off. Sorry, this is crap.

  • @charlyannekirby
    @charlyannekirby 6 місяців тому

    It is 2024 & BT have insisted my landline go to BT digital voice. They sent me the new box & I absolutely hate the new phone. It means I have to have my wifi on 24 hours, but I used to switch off my wifi off. Because the TV & wifi uses electricity and emits EMF. Having all this equipment on standby means using more electricity. BT customer service representative told me they are moving it over because it is Greener 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Also the new phone I have is absolutely crap and rings 4 times before going to answer phone. Disgusting bastards

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 6 місяців тому

      Oh dear - your points are valid - do you need your landline number ? - I don't have one anymore - we just use our mobiles - can you do that? I am not sure it is greener - definitely not in fact. What they probably mean it is cheaper for them not to have to maintain a legacy phone network - which is backfiring anyway as the 'turning off' is likely to be postponed - perhaps for some considerable time

  • @Divergence
    @Divergence 8 місяців тому

    Had a question though, do you have to ask them to change it or do they contact you when its time?

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 7 місяців тому

      Sorry for the delay - I didn't notice your comment. I would contact your provider and make it happen rather than leave it to them. I am 99% sure that this whole thing will now be postponed but we shall see.

  • @MEANASSJAMSTER
    @MEANASSJAMSTER 9 місяців тому

    I got a line with sipgate some years ago, and got some VoIP phones ...I have been playing with 3CX also... my original landline ended up being answered by my PBX (mostly spam or scam calls) ...recently I went over to digital voice in the hopes that I could embed my (now digital) landline could be embedded into my PBX ...but I must actually use one of their adaptors to emulate a landline and plug that into an ATA on my system...

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 9 місяців тому

      Port your number to SIPgate and answer it On your 3CX

    • @MEANASSJAMSTER
      @MEANASSJAMSTER 8 місяців тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 - but that would cost extra... - and be only good for sorting spam calls into groups ...looool

  • @ericharvey9456
    @ericharvey9456 9 місяців тому

    I didn't find out until today, then only because the engineer suggested going full fibre because the wires in the ducting are getting too brittle and keep breaking.

  • @richardgregory3684
    @richardgregory3684 9 місяців тому

    I live in the biggest vity in my country, and we don;t even have fibre here. Well, we've just had an independent ISP laying it for gigabit, but it shows just how far BT are behind, and 2025 is for the birds. I reckon we'll see analogue phones into the 2030's lol

  • @johns3421
    @johns3421 9 місяців тому

    Doubt it will be all complete by 2025, Whether or not this is of no benefit to most consumers merely to suit the likes of BT.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 9 місяців тому

      It may well get postponed. I’ve been talking about this for over 5 years. Only recently is it hitting the mainstream media. We shall see.

    • @jannertfol
      @jannertfol 5 місяців тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 Yes, I thought that too, till last month. We got ONE DAY's notice that we were being switched ...and that was that. There are NO benefits at all, and several really detrimental aspects to this caper.

  • @davidclarke10
    @davidclarke10 9 місяців тому

    Rip for landline in 2025

  • @paulrose319
    @paulrose319 10 місяців тому

    short sighted when the net goes down i have corded landline analogue

  • @thomaspridmore106
    @thomaspridmore106 11 місяців тому

    Clear as a bell ?

  • @mikenewbold1699
    @mikenewbold1699 Рік тому

    lol

  • @Elecs1
    @Elecs1 Рік тому

    Oh I have a BT in the attic and I connect my phones to the main

  • @bjkemp4295
    @bjkemp4295 Рік тому

    It's all very well saying everybody is going to have to move to voip. Unfortunately some areas, like mine, have NO fibre service at all, from any provider. We have nowhere to go!

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 Рік тому

      Yep - I am just the messenger on this....if your landline broadband speeds are very poor, you could look at satellite broadband - there are various providers - some of our clients are using Starlink pretty successfully - or 4G or 5G internet is a good option if you get good signals from any of the providers - you can check with O2 etc online for signal strength

    • @bjkemp4295
      @bjkemp4295 Рік тому

      The irony is my local exchange area has FTTP everywhere except this village! They can't get past the railway? Satellite sounds interesting but I couldn't get satellite tv because I'm surrounded by other peoples (big) trees @@nicholasbrandon8699

  • @Grimm141
    @Grimm141 Рік тому

    This is great stuff, thank you!

  • @Dawn.of.the-day
    @Dawn.of.the-day Рік тому

    I'm not happy about the changes, neither was I asked if I want it. I absolutely resent it, they are wanting everything to go digital including banking and everything electrical. Wonderful if the electric grid goes down. I've hung onto analogue as much as I can. My parents are going to struggle, they are clueless with mobile phones and they've owned one for years, have not moved on from learning how to turn it on.

  • @rjs23565
    @rjs23565 Рік тому

    I dont mind the new technology and the change to VOIP but I do strongly mind that I have to pay for calls by this method and the so-called fictitious line when my internet is running with FTTP. The VOIP should be free for all calls at anytime. After all I can call people over the internet using free chat calling on my laptop using the same technology. Its just another rip-off.

    • @TestGearJunkie.
      @TestGearJunkie. Рік тому

      We pay £6 a month extra for Digital Voice which gives 1000 inclusive minutes a month to UK landlines and mobiles, more than we'll ever need. We have a UPS on the system which keeps all our computer kit powered in the case of a mains failure (which has hardly ever happened in the 8 years I've lived here). We pay £40 a month for full fibre FTTP with up/down speeds of 900 Mbps so that's £46 all in, about a fiver more than we were paying for broadband and line rental previously. I can live with that. Our ISP is Zen Internet and they are absolutely brilliant, I can recommend them to anybody. They're a British company and their tech support engineers are actual engineers who know what they're talking about, unlike some places who outsource their 'help' desks to China or India or somewhere.

    • @gregoryseager9191
      @gregoryseager9191 9 місяців тому

      Who do you think maintains this "fictitious line" FTTP or not its exactly the same for copper broadband just cause you don't use the phone doesn't mean the copper wires that supply your broadband don't need to be looked after all the time. while your tucked up in bed people are on call if any issue arises to repair any major incident, this could be a failure in exchange equipment, a large joint has failed or a more common event these days a deliberate attack on the network. You pay those charges so the network can be looked after and updated, no such thing as a free lunch.

  • @origamighost
    @origamighost Рік тому

    This is just the UK?

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 Рік тому

      Uk yes. I have no idea where other countries are at with it. I’m sure they all vary.

  • @datahauler
    @datahauler Рік тому

    Good job nick, ill be manifesting this into my bones tonight my handsome little rooster! #RoosterAttack #GO2WORK! Regards, Timsom Thy Fifth.

  • @Griphook1
    @Griphook1 Рік тому

    My dad is 86 and has dementia. We need to get him a normal landline again as he can't manage a mobile anymore. We've just bought a ring doorbell as he's started to wander off the odd time. His neighbour lets us connect to their wifi at the moment for an internal iP cam and the ring doorbell. What I'd ideally need is a phone that can connect via wifi or eithernet to a 4G router that looks like an old school fixed line phone. Is something like this available?

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 Рік тому

      Sorry for the delayed reply! Yes you can buy a 4G router with either an analogue port (into which you plug a normal phone) or an ethernet port into which you can plug an IP phone, such as a Yealink phone for example. You will need a 4G SIM card of course and you will need to ensure there is a good signal wherever you place it. Unfortunately, you should also consider a battery back up (Uninterruptible Power Supply - UPS) if you want him to be able to use it if there is a power cut at the time - far from ideal but that is where we are heading I am afraid.

  • @padgepadgham3238
    @padgepadgham3238 Рік тому

    A confusing attempt to explain you will need to plug your home phone into a/your router in future, as and when copper to your house phone service is closed down.

  • @AnitaDevi-wp1dn
    @AnitaDevi-wp1dn Рік тому

    You are great teacher

  • @jimcrelm9478
    @jimcrelm9478 Рік тому

    Is it just me, or were landlines much better than VoIP for latency? When I switched to 4G only (which I believe uses VoIP under the bonnet), the difference was extremely noticeable. Sadly it really degrades the quality of conversations, we keep talking over each other. And is there any way to cut down latency with VoIP?

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 Рік тому

      For VoIP to work reliably, you need sufficient bandwidth end to end. On public networks, bandwidth will vary from supplier to supplier, not forgetting there may be all sorts of supplier interconnects involved. We tend to deal with business and organisations where we can control the bandwidth speeds, install proper connections, then deploy things like QoS, decent Codecs and V/Lans so that the voice packets are not mixed up with the data packets - so the issues you describe are probably a combination of poor speeds or poor design or both. Done properly, VoIP should actually be better quality than the old circuit switched analogue and digital lines.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 9 місяців тому

      Yes. You can configure your router to prioritise the voice packets over the data packets. Landlines don’t have latency. 4G is ok for VoIP but depends on the speed and provider

  • @kdc66
    @kdc66 Рік тому

    This is the worst idea ever. It means that if your iinternet connection drops out ( which it does quite frequently ) you'll lose you land line connecton too. This is not progress.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 Рік тому

      Correct. I suspect it will be delayed.

    • @TestGearJunkie.
      @TestGearJunkie. Рік тому

      ​@@nicholasbrandon8699 Full fibre is generally more resilient than copper, so outages are statistically less likely.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 Рік тому

      @@TestGearJunkie. Yes much more reliable - so if you have it you're lucky as many people do not and many people have very little chance of getting it any time soon.

    • @TestGearJunkie.
      @TestGearJunkie. Рік тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 It'll come, we never expected it here, either. There's a rural community in the North of England somewhere that set up their own, laying the fibre themselves and running it. It's mostly 1 Gbps but you can get 10 Gbps if you're prepared to pay for it.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 Рік тому

      @@TestGearJunkie. Yes - we see lots of customers in our job - some of them be waiting years for direct fibre I am afraid.

  • @JohnMiller-kr2ze
    @JohnMiller-kr2ze 2 роки тому

    HI NICHOLAS. I am trying to cancel our land line and just have something like BT or EE Broadband with our phones on contract with Tesco .Is this not practicable. Because the call centre BT man only wants to increase our costs and does not want to know. Help🤔

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      Yes you can do that - maybe find a smaller supplier that isn't hell bent on targets - the larger companies like BT may not be the best source of advice. Search on google for SoGEA broadband for consumers and do it that way

    • @JohnMiller-kr2ze
      @JohnMiller-kr2ze 2 роки тому

      Thank you for your advice Nicholas .We visited EE and their response was much more helpful and I think what they offered would fulfill our requirements more than adequately. Amazing as I understand that they are under the same umbrella as BT who were less than helpful.

  • @kaz007
    @kaz007 2 роки тому

    great video,,but I just moved from virgin business to BT business (broadband and landline number) After agreeing and 1 month down the line BT saying they cant port my number cos its voip(even though the phone number was generated by BT over 40 yrs ago when I used to be with them) and they agreed at point of sale to port my number!!!! What kind of deceitful BS practice is this??? NOW IM STUCK IN NO MANS LAND WHERE I CANT PORT MY PHONE LINE UNLESS I GET VIRGIN TO CONVERT ME BACK TO ptsn LINE(ANALOGUE) WHICH THEY PHASED it out over the last year,since ALL TELECOM COMPANIES ARE MOVING TO VOIP? What choices do i have now?Any help appreciated.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      What is the number - I can check it out for you - if it was originally a BT number,it should be portable - Virgin are probably mistaken.

    • @kaz007
      @kaz007 2 роки тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 thanks dude.u gotta email,dont wanna post my number on public cheers.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      @@kaz007 nick.brandon@tecwork.co.uk

    • @kaz007
      @kaz007 2 роки тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 thanks.I just emailed you.cheers

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      @@kaz007 no worries - good luck sorting it

  • @danboas1784
    @danboas1784 2 роки тому

    Well done for starting out on your own Nick. I wish you all the success for the future.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      Thanks Dan - hope you are well - what are you doing these days?

    • @danboas1784
      @danboas1784 2 роки тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 Yes all is well Nick and thanks for asking. 3 months back into telecoms after 15 years! It's been a real buzz to see how things have changed and the direction of unified Comms in a whole!. I'm so glad the hard work has paid off for you. P.s I didn't know you played guitar and sing! Was a nice touch. Stay blessed Nick.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      @@danboas1784 Ha - thanks Dan

  • @rigglymortis
    @rigglymortis 2 роки тому

    Your SOGEA service will run via FTTP or FTTC. Both technologies will run side by side until FTTP or other technology to reach more difficult rural locations take over.

  • @DP-hy4vh
    @DP-hy4vh 2 роки тому

    If there's nothing left but VoIP phones, people should invest in a rechargeable and portable power supply to keep their phone working in the event of a power outage.

    • @TestGearJunkie.
      @TestGearJunkie. Рік тому

      My other half works from home (she's a full time author) and we've had VoIP phones for years. In fact I was one of the first customers on the German-based Sipgate network when they first started in the UK in 2004 and I've had a couple of the same phone numbers ever since..! We've just moved over to full fibre to the premises with Zen Internet and City Fibre and the original landline was ported to what they're calling 'Digital Voice'. It all seems to work fine so far, I installed structured cabling at home a few years ago so nothing has changed except I had to change over a connecting cable from one socket to another. The whole thing runs from a 1500VA UPS which gives us a good hour or two in the case of a power failure. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether the fax machine will still work, but that doesn't get used much these days except to put off cold callers 🤣

  • @richardgregory3684
    @richardgregory3684 2 роки тому

    It's being sold as an "upgrade". It just adds phone calls to the eggs in one basket internet. It won't work in a power cut. Many telecare devices such as fall alarms used by the elderly are not compatible. Having a phone system independent of power to your house was a big bonus that will be lost. You're basically forced to have internet in it's most basic form just to make phone calls, which means having a router even if you don't have or pay for actual internet. Unless you are also upgraded to fibre this system will use the same wires LOL! Imgine you're elderly; you could just plug a phone in, dial the number and it worked. The new "upgrade" means having a router, pressing buttons on it, registering your new fancy handset and it;s new menus and all the rest. Oh, your extension sockets will stop working too, so let's hope you can get decent wifi in all those rooms - tough luck if as in my case your house has extra thick walls that attentuate the signal into nothing; I used to use my broadband via a wired extension socket upstairs. When my master socket was "upgraded" to fix a fault, that stopped working, so I had to have the router plugged in downstairs; the wifi signal was so attenuated it was all but unusable and I had to mess around with boosters and meshes. Which was made more complicated by the fact that in the words of the engineer who came out to try to sort out the mess the wifi frequency bands were "absolutely rammed full" with lots of contention, I would imagine this is the same in any city setting. It took over a week to sort out the problems that "upgrading" the master socket caused, even though when they did that BT said "it will improve your service". Heh. Ironically, apparently BT's original solution to the power cut issue was "use a mobile". The very people who rely on a landline the most are those least likely to have a mobile. Now they are talkign about battery backups. To quote Mr Scott: "the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain". We won;t have a phone call system independent of internet any more. Oh dear!

    • @garybrooks9289
      @garybrooks9289 Рік тому

      It’s a nightmare fire and intruder alarms such as grade 2 will have real trouble as 4g is not great in all areas also speech diallers will not work on the fibre either keep pstn for redcare

    • @gregoryseager9191
      @gregoryseager9191 9 місяців тому

      Your extensions will still work as a phone line if wired up correctly to router may need engineer visit, but quite workable, most people however don't have any issue with cordless phones. Your master socket would have been upgraded to stop an issue called a bridge tap which effects broadband speeds or simply because it was faulty if over a year old no longer BT issue. I believe you can also get battery backups so in case of power outage they kick in so no loss of service.

    • @richardgregory3684
      @richardgregory3684 9 місяців тому

      @@gregoryseager9191 The cordless phone issue isn;t just technological. They can be quite intimidating to set up, if you are used to an old-fhashioned phone socket where you just plug something into it and it works. You have to pair your cordless phone to the router. Battery backups might help if you los epower to your home, but AFAIK not if there's a widespread power cut, because the street cainet stuff will fail in that case as well. But again....cordless phones, battery backups, all require extra expense and complications from the user viewpoint. If my very elderly parent slived on their own I would not like to have to try to explain to them the necessity of having a UPS, keeping it charged, how to pair cordless phones to the router. They are used to "you plug a telephone in and it just works, and keeps on workign in a power cut".

    • @jannertfol
      @jannertfol 5 місяців тому

      It not only doesn't work during a power cut, but it doesn't work during a broadband outage either ...as we just discovered. Oh, by the way, we got ONE DAY's notice of the forced switch ...and that by email. So if suddenly your analog landline phone doesn't work, you may just have been switched and missed the 'notice.'

  • @cattysplat
    @cattysplat 2 роки тому

    Power cut? No more landline. Router reset/internet down? No more landline. Retiring a system that just works and has done for decades to throw everything into the internet traffic jam, all forced to be done in 4 years before cutoff, is inevitably going to cause problems. Not to mention the potential for hacking virtual wiretapping. Not everything is about big business, millions of homes being forced to rewire or lose landline forever, many will just abandon landline resorted to more mobile traffic and old people unable to use their phones when their router/ISP goes wrong. This addiction to making everything internet connected is a disaster when the internet inevitably has problems.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      I kind of agree - hopefully it will be postponed - we shall see.

    • @TestGearJunkie.
      @TestGearJunkie. Рік тому

      Uninterruptible power supply. No more power failures to critical kit.

    • @jannertfol
      @jannertfol 5 місяців тому

      Nope. We got switched last month against our will, with ONE day's notice! And the notice came via email!

  • @markatkinson167
    @markatkinson167 2 роки тому

    With mobile phones, why do you need a telephone line any longer?

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat 2 роки тому

      Not everyone wants everything done through a mobile, managing battery life, 101 apps and internet distraction. Some premises as a business with a personal permeant phone line.

    • @TestGearJunkie.
      @TestGearJunkie. Рік тому

      Because mobile coverage around here is crap and the prices are even more crap. Not everyone wants a "smart" phone with Apple or Google tracking you every moment of the day.

  • @sukarime445
    @sukarime445 2 роки тому

    Excellent stuff, say hi to Joel, I was his classmate in A level IT!

  • @officialsimonharris
    @officialsimonharris 2 роки тому

    My understanding is that FTTC is going to continue beyond 2025 - the country is not completely covered by FTTP

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      I expect that will have to be the case - although I have not heard that for sure - there is no alternative really - has to be available....

  • @paulbrenton939
    @paulbrenton939 2 роки тому

    The British Phone Line numbering DOES NOT contain LETTERS!! , "O" is a LETTER, NOUGHT or ZERO should be used instead !!!

  • @Jack-fs2im
    @Jack-fs2im 2 роки тому

    Think the elderly will struggle to understand it and change

  • @petecoventry6858
    @petecoventry6858 2 роки тому

    I am just about to get a LL installed - not cheap but then you get what you pay for - I've gone for 1Gbps on a 10Gbps carrier

  • @craigsouthwell3484
    @craigsouthwell3484 2 роки тому

    I have BT broadband only. If I wanted to have the phone too through fibre I'd have to pay £34.99 a month then another £5.00 a month just for incoming calls. I pity older people like my mother who is 80 odd and has no need, or desire to have broadband. But will have to get it to be able to have a house phone. It's nothing g but a con to get more money out of customers.

  • @mda5003
    @mda5003 2 роки тому

    I've got FTTP and 8 BT phone sockets and 7 phones installed throughout the house in a recent new build all connected with concealed wiring behind the walls to the BT master socket. This then goes through a battery backup unit to BT's modem which is then connected to a Router. BT have just sent me a new router so how am I supposed to connect all those phones when the router only has one phone socket? I'm totally confused! This has come as a total shock having spent over £500 to get a phone in each room. And then what happens when there is a powercut? There is to be no backup unit. How am I or anyone supposed to call the emergency services when the phones won't work?

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      Have you had all the phones wired up using phone cable to a master socket?? If that is the case, I would say that the people advising you on the cabling in the house dont know what they are doing...you would install data cabling to all areas. You need a decent telephone engineer to sort this out for you - if you are in West Kent or East Sussex, we can send someone round - if not, find a decent phone system company with experienced engineers who can wire it up properly and ensure there is enough power to power all your analogue phones. www.tecwork.co.uk

    • @mda5003
      @mda5003 2 роки тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 Thank you for your reply. My house is new-build with FTTP and I paid over £500 about five years ago for all the concealed cabling to be installed during construction (probably by Openreach) and yes, they all connect to the master socket - I was not informed about these cables being made redundant within a few years so this has now come as a shock. At the moment all the analogue phones work as I've not yet been given a date for the switch-off. However, even my mobile phone (on O2) will soon be redundant as I've seen reports that the 3G network will be shutdown as well. Anyway, I clicked on the BT DV/equipment website to see if they could help and that just says I don't qualify! Unfortunately, I'm nowhere near Kent or Sussex but many thanks for your offer of help.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      @@mda5003 The cables aren't exactly redundant - you can probably still use them for phones only (ie not wifi)...you need to find a decent phone system company to sort this out for you (not BT I suggest). would pick a small local telephone company with experienced engineers. You would have to ensure you have ordered a VoIP service from BT so you can retain your phone number on a VoIP service - have you done that as part of your order process?

    • @mda5003
      @mda5003 2 роки тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 Well, if I can continue to plug phones into the sockets that would be okay but I'm not sure how that will work as they are all wired to the master socket which goes to the TEL1 socket on the ONT Modem through the BBU. When BT switch me over from FibreVoice to DigitalVoice I presume none of that will work. As regards my order that started about three or four years ago and that was for Broadband and Landline - it had to be with BT as then, even now, no other provider will offer a service to my area. Anyway, I thought that was VoIP (is that FibreVoice?) and being FTTP I was under the impression that this was now the latest equipment which superseded the old copper wired broadband in my old house and should have lasted me many years. But now I'm totally confused so I may end up waiting to be cut off and then just cancelling the contract. Oh well, many thanks for your assistance.

  • @vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729
    @vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729 2 роки тому

    The video comes across as a bit of scare mongering in my opinion, and some facts are not entirely correct. First of all it’s Openreach LTD and not BT Openreach, both companies are legally separated and referring to them any other way causes confusion. Openreach is a network provider and BT is a service provider. The industry has had a 5 year warning that the PSTN machines in the exchange will be turned off and once the fibre build is completed then exchanges will start to be closed down and copper recovery will commence. Most customers do not have a phone plugged into the NTE at the premises, but for those that do then VOIP will be available, SOGEA products is a way to provide that to customers and the phones look exactly the same as generic phones that use the exchange equipment to make a call, so there is no need for the elderly to panic. If elderly or disabled people have a care alarm system that works through the exchange equipment then the local authority needs to provide a VOIP compatible one and that technology is already out there, so again no need to panic. The Openreach fibre build isn’t a slow rollout, it’s just people’s expectations are high, and building a fibre network and the associated costs that come with it ie, traffic management, road closures, way leaves, planning permission costly and time consuming. The current fibre build has passed 25 million homes across the UK already, I doubt very much that any other network provider has the skill and experience to roll out the project at such a pace. Technology evolves and moves on, the way we live and the high demand for bandwidth dictates this. The technology is there and nothing to worry about.

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      Why is it scaremongering? This whole thing has had little or no publicity as far as the normal population is concerned and is going to cause a lot of issues to people, including and particularly the elderly and those with poor internet.

    • @vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729
      @vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729 2 роки тому

      @@nicholasbrandon8699 It comes across as scare mongering because it sounds as people won’t be able to get a voice service, and that just isn’t true. If people have poor broadband, then that’s an indication that they have a fault, and faults can be repaired.

  • @peterhyams6824
    @peterhyams6824 2 роки тому

    I can’t wait to get rid of the noisy crackling copper lines. We now have a fibre cable coiled up at the bottom of our local BT pole ready for installation. We live in rural wales in Hamlet with 7 properties so if it’s reaching communities like us it won’t be long for everyone now. I’m installing a UPS long run battery back up for my router and new fibre modem so it won’t fail in a power cut.

  • @braveheart8063
    @braveheart8063 2 роки тому

    What about virgin media phone line

    • @mama9048
      @mama9048 2 роки тому

      We left Virgin in 2020 for Sky after 20+ years of service due to no customer loyalty and bill over double what Sky want. Took our number to a separate VoIP SIP provider though so its easier to switch around and I only need broadband with any provider for the phone to work. Anyway the answer to your question is that Virgin will likely send you a letter in the post with a white dongle to plug into your Superhub 'Tel 1' port just above the yellow Ethernet ports. When your normal phone line goes dead then just simple unplug your phone from the wall socket and replug it into the white dongle and the white dongle into the superhub. There already doing these 'digital' phone lines if you joined them after 2018.

    • @TestGearJunkie.
      @TestGearJunkie. Рік тому

      @@mama9048 Sky is crap. We had a problem and on calling the so-called 'help' desk in India or wherever it was they told me to take a photo of our master socket and send it to them. How in God's name is *_that_* going to help, especially when we had no internet..?! We left then and there for Zen (a British company) and have had no further problems in 3 years.

  • @lindastone6868
    @lindastone6868 2 роки тому

    Would my Landline number be the same with VOIP?

    • @nicholasbrandon8699
      @nicholasbrandon8699 2 роки тому

      HI Linda - yes you should be able to change your broadband to s ingle use broadband and place an ADDITIONAL order to port your old number onto a VoIP product. I notice that some providers arent offering this yet so speak to your provider. It will be possible before 2025 with all providers I hope!