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Would Greenbergs approach also work for someone with trauma-related ruminations?

oh my God. He just said you don't even know what it's like to be in this relationship without OCD and that is, just, massive. It's true. I've had enormous recovery in the last two years and am finally reaching a point where I really am stepping away from symptoms and I'm realizing, I kind of don't know myself. I don't know what I'm like without OCD and I don't know what my relationships will be like, but so far it has been very very sweet. All my love to everybody out there suffering.

You can basically go and watch porn.. I cannot stress enough how much I LOVE this guy. 😂 His approach is what I needed. Especially because he leaves room for personal experience.. being told what I need to do and having to do it is, I think, pretty much what fuels my OCD. So.. thanks, Dr. Greenberg. I appreciate you so much!

I have recently been diagnosed with OCD, mainly “presenting” as health anxiety. It presented in different ways over the years. Rumination has always been the real problem. I love this guy 😅.. thank god I stumbled over Michael while googling “ocd rumination”. Thanks reddit. 😂

How to mentally let go of a thought after direct attention?

thanks for this video. just started learning about this doctor, hope that this video gets more views, likes and shares.

It’s like don’t worry about it or analyzing it

Michael is so cute and handsome

I wish there was more of this energy in the scene. Firebrand, intellectual, challenging received wisdom. It's so helpful. Even if it ends up being wrong, at least it gets everyone thinking about what they're doing, instead of just mindlessly regurgitating PowerPoint presentations and cliché. The whole field of OCD treatment has come about through people trying to do things differently and get rid of unhelpful treatment strategies.

At 35th minute , talk on EXTERNALIZATION, My view : Externalization is both good and bad . It depends on how we use it . For example when OCD intrusive thoughts hit , we label it as OCD and it's not me its good to detach or not sink in OCD thought . When you use I have OCD in a worry some way and ruminate on it, it's bad. So what he says in the video is Just considering intrusive thoughts as normal human experience, it may be true for intrusive thought but OCD is much more than that it's grown or complicated intrusive thought rather let's say Inferal confusion with Rumination with large amount of Anxiety . It's not that easy or its makes further guilt and confusion on accepting as human experience. So all the teachings or knowledge has to be used wisely. It's like you have to move , how ? In water by swimming and in sand by walking . It's not the same but results are same you are moving.

Whatever happened to this guy? I can’t find him anywhere except OCD Stories. Wonder where he’s at with his work.

With so many people suffering how does this not have atleast a million views. This information and this video can save people from so much mental torture. Its absolutely brilliant

Hello thank you

Does that make sense?? No it doesn't. Fearing or not fearing is not my choice. I am here because I fear.. So the only way to do it is to do despite the fear. I may be anxious, I may not be, but yes I will try not to engage with rumination while I am doing exposures

U are able to not engage only once U develop the skills of not engaging through ERP. Yes not ruminating and not engaging is Key, but that is through ERP isn't it.. I just won't have skill capacity to not engage if it bothers me so much.. It can only be done after I am exposed to my fear.. Essentially U are saying what ERP and ACT says

I loved what Dr Greenberg said about not having to do “values actions” to get rid of ocd. Many of us already have moral scrupulosity issues and telling people to do “values therapy” just adds to our feeling guilty about everything.

First of all I was oh man why you got to go heavy on ACT? Because I found it helpful and I also found ERP helpful. But then I went to his website and read up and thinking this really does make sense. So from all the articles he has put online i applied if all to myself at home. All i can day is shizzle my dizzle 🔥🔥! It was so effective, so, so simple and so fast it also is so logical it leaves little room for any questions. I was in a fairly good place of recovery and kind of had accepted I’m fine with living with background anxiety - but bloody hell, this is the first time my anxiety has dropped to 0 !! I also completely understand the reason for my anxiety is that rumination had become a compulsion, a safety behaviour that i could choose not to do, I saw clearly just how much I ruminated without really realising it! Its brilliant!!

Very interesting, I find this very interesting. I made great steps forward with ERP, and i do absolutely understand that they are just thoughts. But widening my idea of what rumination is has basically shown me - that bloody hell some things that I was just putting up with are only rumination, seeing clearly that basically I am asking myself questions that don’t have an answer and don’t need an answer - this is great. I am a big fan of mindfulness but i realised that there is a big difference between having my attention on say my breath and gently having my breath in my awareness- its quite a blurry line but it’s basically not using mindfulness to push out or cancel thoughts rather a gentle way to have my mind settle without forcing my attention on something.

I think it's hard for women to be vulnerable as well as for men.. I think the root of it is not just not wanting to look weak, but protection. Protection of MY image, how I look, what people think of me, what I think of me, protection from discomfort, or social rejection, shame, or bullies who might take advantage. I think the root of not wanting to be vulnerable at the end of the day is pride. AKA putting myself first, my needs first, my security first, my desires first, my image first, my life FIRST... When i put other people first in my life I can be vulnerable because I care more about making them feel understood, cared for, secure, etc. This is why we truly need forgiveness and strength to love people like God loves us... We need Jesus's forgiveness!

I would do anything to get treated by dr Greenberg.. but i am in India, and he doesn't do online sessions.. i have severe sensorimotor OCD and there isn't anyone here who is a specialist on that

Love this!! Truly a game changer! Love that he talks about choice based rather than values based. He is a star!! We have agency!!!!’

I have neutral theme pure o… when i exposed myself to thoughts…it made my situation bad… so does it mean…in pure o… we should only do response prevention when the thought comes to mind?? Or do exposure on purpose… plz respond

This is magnificent, but when he adds all the different ways you could still be ruminating it can become hell “ checking “ Through the 5 or 6 things you might be doing to make sure your not ruminating.

Thank-you so much for this

Someone had to say it....despite Michael being an absolute star and amazing clinician he is also incredibly handsome and charming, There is said it :)

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Thank-you so much, please more of these

Thank-you so much for this

Value based is such a bullshit concept

Both Nathan and Chrissie are amazing gifts to many people. They are so smart and, more importantly, so kind.

Thank you so much for the honesty on this topic. You're both beautiful, wonderful people!

I have a question. What other video on your channel can I watch that discusses or applies Greenberg approach besides the 2 videos where he is?

He is so good at understanding ocd and the compulsions please go and read in his homepage. He doesnt complicate things, he is so intelligent. He gives a lot of hope !!!

I have a very specific fear having to do with romantic relationships. I've been doing "exposure" my entire adult life in relationships. I've done "fake it till you make it." It's never gotten easier, in fact, it makes me more uncomfortable than ever. Maybe traditional exposure works for some people. For me, it's made me worse.

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Dr Michael Greenberg has ultimately gamechanged OCD for me! 👏 It's not external. You have to try, it doesn't just happen to you. It's awareness. How to tolerate the thoughts. "Because I don't want to do it" is the answer to the question of why shouldn't I OCD. Rumination is a compulsion. Thank you!

This is helping me so much!

Great convo. He is obvious spot with his thoughts and research on OCD and Rumination. I am curious to hear him elaborate on the 100% compassion for Pedophiles comment?

Who is underneath Neil? I really like her approach and would love to follow her on social media to learn more about her work.

What is radical acceptence?

Yea I have to say I had a severe few months of ERP and the whole habituation with a Dr from the Columbia Univ. program and it made everything worse. She had me go things that I’ll never be able to let him of because she thought, let’s just through everything at this guy because that’s the protocol. I’m going to investigate Dr. Greenbergs methods!

I've been struggling with real event/ false memory and past drug addiction makes it so much worse. About a month-and-a-half ago out of the blue I had something pop into my head and that's morphed into something that I only get really from when I'm asleep

This makes so much sense. In 2019 I had intrusive thoughts but I didn'tl know i had ocd so I thought it was ptsd and ignored it. Even though the thoughts were still there. In a week or two i didn't even remember that happened. Whenever they came up I ignored them and carried on with whatever I was doing. Then in 2021 I started ruminating again but this time I did analyze them. I did give the thoughts too much time and got stuck in a loop. My experience really underscores this idea of ruminating being the key to ocd.

His technique definitely has a place in OCD treatment, but he is wrong about anxiety being about rumination and having exposure without anxiety. Anxiety is an emotion elicited by our limbic system, so we don't choose to experience it or pre-think about it. We simply experience it and then react to it. What stopping rumination helps with is the part where we basically "feed" the anxiety and provoke it to be greater and a habit. Exposure will always be key if you want to eliminate your anxiety so that you can habituate. Also, agreeing with the thoughts is much easier over time than to try to fight them. This is because when you agree there is little room for the thoughts to continue attacking you

Can we get a list of the names of the questioners? I would love to follow their social media or read their work.

Thank you, this is helping me a lot.

Really enjoyed this, thank you. Really good interviewer too, let him speak.

Brilliant video , brillian interview and brilliant therapist

I’d love to know when he will do his next q & a

Thanks Dr. Greenberg for being so compassionate and bringing in your great ideas, as a MD I cannot wait to (hopefully) read your future studies about RF-ERP, best in comparison to a control group treated with classic ERP, especially in the context of the rumination-heavy subjects such as S-OCD or ROCD. In my own experience heavy classic ERP situations don't work as long as the rumination is not adressed thoroughly up front because the sufferer will make every exposure a test and doubt every result afterwards. It only works for the subgroup that is mostly using avoidance compulsions, not those using 24/7 analysis and checking compulsions.