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That is quite a different price bracket from the Neumi. In the price range I’d look at the KEF Q250c, ELAC Unifi or SVS Prime.

@@OHMAudioChannel thank. You very much for your feedback and advice.

I honestly can’t recommend these speakers, they are too crunchy and just don’t sound right to me. If you like a really spicy speaker you might enjoy it, but for me it’s a bit too rough around the edges.

I have't heard the Q Acoustics to say for sure, but at that price they would make sense over the Neumi.

Well why is that ? What the hell is going on over there. Oh , must be those EU tariffs.

Standard 5-way binding posts, as you can see in the video. Sorry I didn’t call it out specifically, I think it was like 1am when I was recording the video.

It would take quite a bit of work to get the crossover improved as well as tools that cost way more than the speaker itself to get started.

@@OHMAudioChannel is it the actual crossover that makes it sound like that with music?

​@@ForrestLambert.2022 I'm sending my CS5 to GR Research to get tested and potentially get a new crossover designed. Probably should hear back from them in a month or so if they were able to do anything with it. I did the GR Research crossover upgrade on the BS5s and am so happy with it that I had to see what GR Research could do with the center channel. 🙂 But OHM Audio is definitely correct, I expect any upgrade of the crossover to probably cost more than the stock speaker itself did (maybe even 2x or 3x) as well as take quite a bit of work on my end (well maybe an afternoon's worth of work anyway). But after the upgrade I would suggest it might be better than speakers costing several times more than that, depending on how you look at it. We shall see. 🙂 The crossover definitely changes how a speaker sounds. A well designed crossover blends the output of the woofer and the tweeter so that they seamlessly blend into each other and create a relatively flat response without any out-of-phase cancellation. But there's an art to it, because there's a lot of different ways to design them and ways that they can correct for issues with the drivers or other aspects of the speaker design. And the parts quality in the crossover also matters and can affect the clarity and detail. ua-cam.com/video/5xsfQi1hlzU/v-deo.html

Appreciate the comment. I do in fact have a review of the CS5 on my channel. I do make mention of how well it pairs with the BS5, which they aren’t perfectly matched but do blend well, especially at their given asking price.

Yes. They are slightly different in their tonality, but overall I felt they meshed well together, especially if your have an AVR that has some form of room correction with EQ. As far as a budget subs, I’ve always been a fan of Dayton Audio, but the Jamo C 912 is another solid option, especially when on sale.

@@OHMAudioChannel Thank you, I'll be sure to look into those subs and use your affiliate link if it works in Canada.

Get a pair of svs pb 2000 can't go wrong ! Subwoofers! Older model but still good 👍

If you’re keeping in the sub $200 I’d look at the Neumi BS5 or even a pair of their CS5 “center channel” tipped vertical as an MTM speaker. The Sony CS5 is another solid option as it doesn’t suffer from a mid bass hump like other budget bookshelves, especially when it is on sale.

Thanx for the quick reply!

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Depending on your area, you might want into used market for 2 channel receivers or amplifiers. As far as new, Topping PA3, Cambridge AXA25 could be good options.

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I have used them for that application before. They did well in that regard. I would highly recommend looking at the Kali Audio LP-6 v2 as well. Ruler flat from 50hz to 20kHz and being self powers you don’t need a receiver.

Thank you for the insightful feedback. I'll be sure to not rustle any more jimmies in the future.

It's good to hear from a perspective from someone that don't like klip the budget klipsch b&w and focal are all in your face forwards speakers and get more and more tame with better mids as they all lack mids in the budget range it's a sound sig that most companies like to do and easy to do for the masses but they all get pretty serious once you go up the line if you like pretty balanced kef is one of the brands where there budget line is pretty balanced all around not the best speaker as it's highs mids and lows don't stand out but it's a good starter to find out what you like same with klipsch you could go to the warm side like elac or older kef

That's a VERY different price point of a speaker to compare. That's like trying to compare a Corolla to a BMW 3 series. Both are very good in their price categories but aren't really going to be cross shopped.

@@OHMAudioChannel In the place where I live, their price is equal.

@@alexlex5104 If comparing the B1+ to the Dentons, I'd go with the Dentons for sure. It would be a lot more speaker for the money.

@@OHMAudioChannel Thanks

I feel the Neumi has better vocal clarity over the stock Pioneer. Now if you’ve done the Murphy mods, hard to say as I haven’t performed those mods myself.

The 201s are in interesting speaker in that they rely on reflected sound to give a bigger sound stage. I can’t say if the Emotiva’s would be better but certainly would be very different in their presentation compared to the Bose.

Glad to hear it is doing well for you. As long as you're not to far off axis you're going to have a good time.

Glad you’re enjoying them! Thank you for watching and commenting.

How's it working out? I'm considering getting some BS5's to go up against the wall due to the layout of my room.

With the larger woofers, you'll have more output capability which likely give you a more natural and less strained sound. Sony AVRs tend to have more "lively" or "dynamic" sound which could pair well with the Neumi's.

@@OHMAudioChannel Thanks for the feedback.

I think the CS5 if set vertically would make a good LCR for a budget system with better output capability vs the BS5.

Why not?

Depending on the power supply and amplifier stage of the AVR, running a lower impedance speaker could cause issues with overheating or loss of dynamics. Most AVRs can play 4 ohm speakers, but your entry level ones are more likely to run into power limitations if pushed hard vs a mid to upper tier one. For clarification I’d consider mid tier to start around the $1k USD mark.

@@OHMAudioChannel If someone spends a grand on an amp, I doubt they need to pair it with "budget speakers", Doesn't make sense to me.

@@2869may I’d agree with you on that,. I was using a generalization that budget AVRs could have trouble properly running lower impedance speakers due to their smaller power supplies. If you’re spending $1000 on a multi channel amplifier or even a 2 channel receiver, this becomes less of a concern for sure.

@@OHMAudioChannel For sure.

I really do think people are sleeping on these. Great speaker for the money.

That’s awesome! I love hearing stories like this. Enjoy!

@@OHMAudioChannel do you recommend this speaker over dali specktor 2, q acoustic 3030i

@@ahambhramasmii I can’t say for sure having not heard either the 3030i or the Dali. For the $ the B1+ really is an excellent speaker though.

I actually think this would would work well for a budget LCR configuration for a small home theater. I currently use mine in an upright position behind a acoustic transparent screen and speech intelligibility is excellent

@@OHMAudioChannel thanks for the feedback man. Keep up the great work 👍

If I remember correctly the amplifier is built into the subwoofer of the Z906 so this should work for replacement of your Satellite speakers. If the speaker wire of the Logitech satellite are attached to the speakers, then you’ll need to get a hold of some speaker wire, won’t anything fancy just some 18 or 16 set would more than sufficient.

@@OHMAudioChannel yes it has some class D amplifier, but in manual it's quoted as -Subwoofer: 165 watts (6 ohms, at 52 Hz, at 10% THD) - Satellites: 335 watts RMS (5 x 67 watts per channel {4 ohms at 3.85kHz, at 10% THD -nominal impedance 8 ohms This speaker has 6 ohm impedance So I got feared that I might burn the coil or amplifier circuit due to missmatch of impedance.

@@shreeenath Typically a “6 ohm” speaker will dip down to a low as 4 ohms in the woofer. With the MK402X not going below 4 ohms I I think you’ll be okay to use it as substitute. If I had a Z609 I could verify how the impedance measures on the satellites and see if it similar to the MK402X.

@@OHMAudioChannel thank you very much for technical guidance.

@@OHMAudioChannel connected Dayton to Logitech powered subwoofer. Since it's smaller (40 watt RMS) compared to 67watt RMS. sounds little. It won't be good enough for Front L&R. will use it as rear L&R.

So, How did that go?

@@lamecasuelas2 I found too things - muted dialogue most probably due to the dual 5" woofers muffling the tweeter. And the vinyl wrap peeling on line of the corners out of the box. They went back in a little over a week. Not as this reviewer advertised at all.

Well they can be loud for about a second before the coils fry. Loudspeaker is a generic term for a device that converts an electrical signal into sound.

It could be a compelling option. A lot of “LCR” speakers are MTM designs. The beam forming you get with that design helps alleviate some floor and ceiling bounce while providing a nice wide listening window left to right. If used for a theater setup I think it would work well since you’ll presumably be using a subwoofer.

@@OHMAudioChannel I'll be running 2 10 subs, and a couple Neumi BS5 for the surround sound. The room is a 12.5x16.5x8 room.

@@ProudPapaKY that’s quite similar to size room I’m running for my HT. The Neumi’s will have plenty of output unless you like listening to your movies above say 80-85dB on average. If your placing the BS5 close to a wall, plug the ports for a better response without the bulls leaking out the port

@@OHMAudioChannel thank you for all the help. I was looking at the Dayton mk422 in the center and left, right, but the build quality looks much better on the Neumi speakers. I really enjoy the videos. Great content!

@@ProudPapaKY the Mk442 is a good center, Audioholics liked it when then reviewed a number of years ago. It’s pretty limited in output with its low sensitivity however, so it would be suitable for only smaller rooms.

Agreed. I think with a reworked crossover these could be an excellent choice for a sub $200 speaker.

@@OHMAudioChannelYes, they should really do that!