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A mistake from me in my understanding. A few comments have already set me straight 🙂

Sounds like a very interesting setup! If you have time, could you let me know what tools you've used to do the sharing? It'd be great to be able to game upstairs without moving everything about.

@@ukGage The short version is I bought a second hand threadripper pro, built myself an AI cluster with a pair of RTX A5000 cards, using Proxmox as the host OS/hypervisor and then discovered the hard way that running games through an LXC with multiple GPUs doesn't work very well. I've just put in an Arc B580 as well, which I feed through PCIe passthrough into the VM that's used for gaming. Sometimes I'll use the VM as a remote play steam host, other times i'll just play directly in the VM. Not much in it, other than some games run fine using network play on native Steam and others work better being played through the VM itself. Proxmox is brilliant for this kind of thing. It's also running my media server, network storage and a bunch of other things through containers, all of which I can run as and when are required. Setting up the gaming VM was probably the hardest part of it to be honest, and that's only because of my hardware choices and original use case. Fortunately I picked a board with enough PCIe to run 3 GPUs. If I didn't need both of the A5000s for actual work grunt, I'd have used one of them for the VM. Actually I'd probably have set up virtual GPUs and split each A5000 onto a few VMs, but that's the flexibility you get with Proxmox. Every client device in my house is now a ChromeOS device, though bare Linux would work just as well. I mainly went with Chromebooks/a Chromebox because I'm integrated into the Google ecosystem and like having the phone hub. If I wasn't bothered about that, I'd be running Linux on all of my client devices instead.

I don't know specifically about those but I've been running lots on there (some in the video) and newer stuff like Space Marine 2. I haven't tried those but I'll see what I can find 🙂

Thanks, but I actually love it. It's very funny 🤣

What makes it easier than Bazzite? This is the only one I've tried and I'm genuinely interested 🙂

How did you get around the anti cheat with Fortnite!? About the Nvidia driver, it's preinstalled with Bazzite and gets auto updated

I nearly just went back to Windows 10, glad I made the switch though. Hopefully music production catches up for you, there's a few others talking about it in the comments and also still dual boot

Yeah, Fortnite is the one that my son wishes worked

Some of these more recent updates suggest so, sadly

Yeah a few people have said, that's great, always a fun one 😁 Thank you!

That's great! I got to the same conclusion as you about Krita, really like it. I found kdenlive after I did this video and think it's great. I love resolve but having to convert my files after recording in OBS is a bit of a pain so finding Kdenlive and seeing that it can read my files is great. If you have any recommendations for me for apps to try let me know please!

@@ukGage For photo manipulation I always recommend darktable. You can set rules for each camera and different settings on that camera, like the ISO or lens used (based on EXIF information) so it runs a set of effects and filters automatically at the time of import, like lens correction, noise reduction, hot pixels deletion, etc You can try waydroid, I don't think it runs Out of the box on bazzite (as you may need to break out of the inmutable situation to change your kernel and manage LXC stuff) but it lets you run a whole android container (not an emulator) that integrates to some degree to your desktop environment and can use your whole GPU/CPU natively (you can even install a translation layer like libndk or libhoudini to run arm apps and games) Helvum, qpwgraph and other are also cool tools, you can have a whole patchbay to connect your audio/midi/video streams between apps, devices and virtual devices however you like with full control over it. And for VR on the oculus, try ALVR. It might just work first try but your mileage will, most likely, vary. A lot.

Thank you. I downloaded it yesterday after someone suggested it as well.

So I've been told 🤣

I've not tried any music software yet. I've briefly tested putting my guitar through my Focusrite and that worked fine but that's about it (so far)

What games weren't working for you? I've been playing WoW and Minecraft online and had no problems but they do have very specific ways of doing multiplayer

I'm an Arch user as well, I prefer how stripped down it is and making it my own as well. That isn't for everyone, though. Distros like Bazzite are great for user adoption of desktop Linux. Some people just want a good out of the box experience with minimal steps. Getting people to use Linux is important, then people can decide if they want to learn more or not as time goes on.

Yeah it's a pretty big iso which I see people complain about but as you say, for me, it's great straight out of the box

That makes sense. I'm sure as I learn more I'll try more distros out

As long as it does not auto-start or has lengthy update processes, bloat matters very little and can help newcomers in getting started with the system. If desired it can be un-installed too, unless it is part of the immutable core, which is one of the reasons I do not recommend such distro's. This is commented from the 'bloated' Garuda Linux layer-distro built on Arch Linux directly (so it adds it's own repositories on top of the base Arch ones).

If I didn't have to open it multiple times to get it to show!

@@ukGage :D it's about the packaging format which Bazzite uses for Firefox. Just use something new like Zen (It's looking similiar to Arc browser (which is based on Chromium and doesn't work on GNU/Linux)) and it's Firefox based. Also it's pretty fast and getting updates very often.

I'll check it out. I'm only wedded to it because I've used it for so long and sync it with my phone which I'm sure lots of them do anyway

Exactly!

Thank you! Looking forward to learning more!

As in updates for the OS or programs? It's the only one I've used so I have no comparison 🙂

@@ukGage Yes, rpm-ostree in terminal. It's so slow compared to update from other distro. Other than that I have no problem, it's great!

Aha that makes sense, thanks!

@@JamesRichardsPlays just get an rgh 360 !

Great to hear all the stories of long term users!

Thanks 😁

@@ukGage yes!

What is wrong with my diction? I've never had that one before!

@@ukGage Oh, of course, you're English! Now I get why "water" turns into "wo'uh"!

Which demanding games are you flicking back for? I think the most demanding thing I play is Warhammer 40k and it runs brilliantly. I don't really play anything VR other than occasionally on my sons oculus but that's all built in so simple enough. Glad it's going well for you, Pop was one of the ones I had on my list to choose between. I was surprised as well how everything just works. You hear lots about how complicated it is or how nothing works.

@ukGage Heavy fps games such as ready or not, arma 3, Delta force and quite a few racing games are not running well for me on Linux. But being more into indie games recently I don't really mind that much.. and it doesn't take long to reboot into Windows if needed.

Thanks, I've not tried a racing game yet. Will give one a go

@@ukGage The ones I play (mainly from the old pre-EA codemasters) work just great. Some older ones had issues on newer windows versions but not on linux

Thanks, a few others have said. I thought it had the full anti cheat but looks like it doesn't have the full one like Fortnite

Like I said in the video, it's not for everyone. However, 90% of what you said there is factually and demonstrably not true. The only thing factual in that statement is that you don't understand, and that's ok. I didn't either until I gave it a go.

@@ukGage Well, eating feces also not for everyone. I would love to hear in which facts, that i stated, i was wrong.

@@Kerojey Ive been using desktop and server Linux since 2005. Desktop Linux has definitely had its ups and downs over the years, and it has a long way to go still. But to say its a buggy mess is factually incorrect. If you want to get into the nitty gritty of it all, if Linux is such a buggy mess; why does it have the largest market share of any OS in the web server space? Why does Nasa use Linux for mission-critical functions and applications? Why is Linux the largest OS used for mobile devices (Android uses the Linux kernel, for example). Because of Steam Proton and Wine, its possible to run the vast majority of PC games on desktop Linux. Even from places like the EA and Ubisoft launchers, not just steam. I was playing Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order the other day via the EA launcher on Linux using Lutris. You can even install games from GOG with Wine using the downloadable .EXE files GOG give you when you purchase games from their DRM free service. Almost all the anti cheats in use today work under Linux as well, but games devs actively block Linux from using them. This includes the two most popular anti cheat solutions, Battle Eye and Easy Anti Cheat. The latter of which is made by Epic Games. Both of them are fully supported on Linux and working on Linux. Its actually a selling point by the devs behind those specific anti cheat solutions. Most of the issues people face when using desktop Linux, are from messing around with things that they wouldn't even try to do under Windows or MacOS. Functionally, especially when using a distro such as Linux Mint or Bazzite, as in this video. Things just typically work, and very well in fact. If you know what you are doing, infamously difficult to use distros such as Arch Linux can be setup to run without issues long term, even for gaming. I personally use Arch Linux myself. My 15 year old son also has zero issues using desktop Linux for school work, art work and games.The Steam Deck uses Arch Linux. Its fine if you do not like Linux, it isnt an OS for everyone. But at least make your arguments factual when you decide to diss it as an option, otherwise you just end up left with egg on your face!

I told you the only thing in your statement that was factual, so therefore everything else is nonsense.

Nicely put! Very strange response from that one, not sure what they thought they'd achieve!

You install the battle net launcher through Lutris. I can't remember what the exact guide was that I followed but a quick Google found me this isn't that looks to be similar to what I did www.linuxfordevices.com/tutorials/linux/install-world-of-warcraft-in-linux

I was considering doing the same but thankfully found alternatives of anything I couldn't get working. What programs have been sticking points for you?

I'd been happy with Windows 10 and was going to just go back to that. Even 11 up until earlier this year I was generally happy with.

@@ukGage I was content with Windows 10, but after Microsoft tipped their hand with the Windows 8 Metro UI design, 10 always felt like a dirty compromise; it wasn't the UI they wanted to make, but it was what they knew we'd accept. The compromise aspect is in all the telemetry they packed in along with the OS, so we can have the UI we want but they get to watch. 11 is just Microsoft looking at Apple and Android with their locked-down ecosystems longing to go that direction. Have a feeling 12 will outright require all apps be obtained through their app store.

Thank you!

Hopefully someone more seasoned can give you a better answer. From my limited experience, as a new user it's been great but it's the only Distro I've used so no idea how it compares to mint

I would stick with Linux Mint if it's just a work and internet browsing laptop, it is well setup, easy to use, and has a GUI to do pretty much everything. If you have a gaming capable laptop, I would suggest Bazzite instead, as it does have optimisations that will improve the overall gaming experience.

@SongDesire forgot to say, it's for my main desktop PC, all AMD parts

@@SongDesire forgot to say, it's for my main gaming rig, all amd parts

That's good to hear. I'm having a very smooth experience so far, hopefully it continues!

Thanks very much 🙂

I've got an Asus Laptop and there's an unofficial Asus control centre that lets me switch performance modes so if you have an Asus Rog too, that should work. Otherwise, I'm not too sure!

@ukGage i have laptop MSI btw, and thank you for the info

TLP is a well-known battery optimisation program, but do mind that this uses a configuration file and the terminal. It can also break functionality by shutting the hardware down, so be mindful of that when trying this. Another way is to change the CPU and GPU scheduler to the powersave mode. The better desktop environments can change the CPU scheduler directly, under battery or power options. For changing the GPU too I like to use the CoreCtrl software, but other alternatives like LACT exist too. Depending on the system you can limit the battery charge level too, the better desktop environments can do this if you have the right dependencies installed. Before support was added I used to do this with TLP on my laptop, but other dedicated and easier to use tool might exist too. But this all depends on whether there exists Linux support for the laptop, Lenovo's tend to be supported but I have not checked other manufacturers.

Badum tshhhh! 😁

I love it! But I can see why some people wouldn't to be fair 🤣

It's not an annoyance it's literally an accessibility feature. Something Linux needs more of

I think it wouldn't be a big deal having it on by default if KDE's settings weren't scattered like crazy. I have to use the search bar for nearly everything in the KDE settings.

@@fortifyve I've never found any settings app to be usable without search. Not Windows. Especially not android. Atleast I'm lucky kde search is super quick unlike the other two

@RenderingUser That's one reason of many why I would recommend using GNOME over KDE any day of the week. It gets a lot of hate for no reason. It looks nicer, feels nicer to use, and well the settings app is pretty simple.

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@ukGage UA-cam kept deleting my replies so I tried to comment to see what triggered the deletion

I already had windows installed when I did my install as dual boot. It belongs to a basic text list at startup to select between them. Not sure if it would do that if Bazzite was first but does the job. Saying that, I've not been back over to Windows for weeks!

@@ukGage I guess they fixed it since the last time I installed it, nice 🙂

Yeah I went off some Googling and took a chance to be honest. It's great 😁

​@@ukGage You made an excellent choice. Bazzite has to be the best OOB experience for gaming on Linux currently and comes with the advantage of being able to turn a HTPC into a SteamOS console, which I'm gonna be doing soon.

Great to hear all these great experiences from people giving it a try. Yeah it's a shame with Windows, the latest versions of 11 are really poor. I still use it daily for work as the company I work for (like most) use Windows so I'll still have a view of it hopefully for if things get better. Ideally they all keep improving and it makes better OS's already

@@ukGage btw I have a tip for you : If you want to remove the password prompt every time you open virtual machine manager you can add your user to the "libvirt" group. There's also a better screen recorder than OBS in my opinion, you should definitely give it a try, its called GPU screen recorder, its on flathub so just use discover to install it. I tried it on an Intel i5 8th gen, and the CPU usage was 5%, using the integrated GPU instead, it leaves the system extremely snappy, and while gaming almost no performance loss

I guess I don't fully understand the difference yet but it's referred to as both on their pages!

That's odd, it shouldn't state that it's immutable as its based off fedora kinoite. Dw atomic and immutables are very similar. They both apply updates in a stable and secure manner so don't expect it to break ANYTIME soon (it's usually what fucks up on linux)

The not breaking is excellent 🤣

​@ukGage yep, even if it does break it's got a rollback system after updates and important shit. But I'd back up just in case something DOES happen thats irreversible

@Dinky-Ayulo thank you for that, that's really helpful got my learning 🙂

Lots of comments about CachyOS, I'll definitely give it a look!

Cool, enjoy whatever you think I may be based on what social media I use 🤣 Ridiculous take

I am intrigued to hear what you think using Blue sky makes me... If you'll at least do me that courtesy?

@@ukGage Bazzite is on Bluesky too lmfao, not sure what they were hoping for...

I'd be more sad if he used Twitter

Everything I've played so far has played the same or better. I'm sure it's not good to be the case for everything of course. I haven't tried anything with ray tracing yet, I should give that a test for sure. Same for controller, all worked straight from install so far. My experience has been no hoops to jump through, I think the Bazzite install takes care of most of the up front work and I'm having far less issues than I was with Windows both performance and bugs

Thanks for the detailed reply. Looking forward to learning more, and maybe I can put my skillset to contributing as I start to understand more 🙂

That idea about doing a post install script is a brilliant idea. I'm going to look into that for sure for future installs

Thank you! Quite a few people have mentioned CachyOS, certainly enough to make me want to take a look 😁