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PKYS Victron Training Event feb 26th. Nate Horton demonstrating Gui Mods on the Cerbo or Ekrano GX
PKYS Victron Training Event feb 26th and 27th.
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Nate Horton demonstrating Gui Mods on the Cerbo or Ekrano GX. The Gui mods add extra graphics to the Cerbo GX and the Ekrano GX.
PKYS Inc is based in Annapolis MD. We specialize in all aspects of Marine Electrical Systems. We know and use the products shown on our website and would be happy to explain them to you and give advice on their use. Just give us a call at 410 280-2267 or send us a message using the Support Page.
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Blue Seas Panels
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shop.pkys PKYS Inc is based in Annapolis MD. We specialize in all aspects of Marine Electrical Systems. We know and use the products shown on our website and would be happy to explain them to you and give advice on their use. Just give us a call at 410 280-2267 or send us a message using the Support Page.
An introduction to running Node Red on the Cerbo GX
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Node Red is a flow based programming tool initially developed by IBM. It allows people with minimal programming experience to write routines using a graphic user interface. The program is a very mature tool with widespread adoption throughout the "Internet of Things" world. Node Red is open source software and is not a Victron product, but Victron have built it in to the Cerbo GX and have writt...
Wiring and programming your Victron Smart BatteryProtect
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Wiring and programming your Victron Smart BatteryProtect Description The Smart BatteryProtect is a solid-state relay and a fancy on off switch controlled by a microprocessor. How it behaves is dependent on programming. Programming is done via the VictronConnect app. Subjects in this Video 0:00 Intro to your Victron Smart BatteryProtect 0:20 VictronConnect app Programming settings A, B and C. 1:...
Bluetooth Victron Smart Lithium Batteries
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When you receive your Victron Smart Lithium Batteries, they arrive like this on a pallet. This video shows you how to View voltage for each battery, update the firmware, set for instant updates change passwords, a nd getting ready for installation Subjects in this Video 0:00 Victron Smart Lithium batteries 0:18 Open up Victron Connect app 0:47 Batteries found 1:26 View Battery and cell voltage ...
Programming your MultiPlus or Quattro with Victron Connect
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The VictronConnect app can be downloaded from the Victron website and operated in demo mode. If you like you can follow along with me in demo mode we can take it for a test run. VictronConnect can now be used for almost all programming of these Multi's and Quattros. At the time of writing (July 2022) there are still a few functions it can't do. If you need to use any of the advanced programming...
Updating the firmware in a multiplus PKYS Inc
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This video shows you how to update the firmware in the MultiPlus II using a computer. The Victron MK3 to USB interface is the device to handle this. We also discuss why you need to update the firmware and change settings Subjects in this Video 0:00 Intro Multiplus II firmware update 0:16 Disconnect remote panels 0:20 Update using MK3 to USB interface 0:26 Open up Victron connect app 0:34 Choose...
Victron Green Plug
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shop.pkys Phoenix Type Connector 2-Pole 5mm Pitch PKYS Inc is based in Annapolis MD. We specialize in all aspects of Marine Electrical Systems. We know and use the products shown on our website and would be happy to explain them to you and give advice on their use. Just give us a call at 410 280-2267 or send us a message using the Support Page.
Lynx Smart BMS
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The Lynx Smart BMS is a dedicated Battery Management System for Victron Lithium Smart Batteries. There are multiple BMS's available for Victron Smart Lithium Batteries, and the Lynx Smart is the most feature rich and complete option. Its main features are: • Built-in 500A contactor used as a fallback safety mechanism and also suitable as a remote controllable main system switch. • Battery monit...
Victron VRM Remote Management Software
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Victron VRM Remote Management Software One great feature of a Victron system with a Cerbo GX and internet connection is remote monitoring. We know how you can monitor a system with your phone via the VictronConnect App, but the distance away from the system is limited by Bluetooth. This video will guide you through setting up your installation on the VRM portal. The VRM portal will allow you to...
Cerbo GX connections
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Cerbo GX connections; The Cerbo GX is a device that brings together many elements of your Victron System. A complete mobile system will have many components. From the batteries to the Lynx Distributor to the BMS, the Inverter/Charger the BatteryProtect the shunt, and any other components like a DC DC charger. The Cerbo GX has many available inputs for these components and this video describes e...
Victron Multiplus Compact programing and connection to Cerbo GX
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The Victron Energy CMP122200100 MultiPlus Compact 12/2000/80-50 120V VE.Bus is the old version of the newer Victron Energy MultiPlus 12/2000/80-50 120V VE.Bus. This video demonstrates the programming needed for a Multiplus, using a Laptop and the VictronConnect app. Subjects in this Video 0:00 Multiplus Compact 12/2000 cover off showing connections, dip switches 0:40 Network cable to MK3 USB in...
MultiPlus II 12/3000 120VAC inverter charger. This video will teach you DC and AC wires connections.
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This Video tutorial covers the connection area of the Multiplus II 12/3000 120VAC. Both DC & AC connections. shop.pkys.com/multiplus-ii-12-3000-120-50 0:00 Connection area of Multiplus II12/3000 120VAC 0:34 AC connections 1:07 AC ferrule connections 1:54 Rubber grommets for output AC wires 2:30 DC battery connection M8 5/16 inch 3:10 ON/OFF and Case ground 3:28 VE Bus Connections 4:02 Connectio...
Identifying Blue Sea Circuit Breakers Part #1
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In this video Peter from PKYS explains the types and sizes of various Blue Sea Circuit Breakers. Check out our website for more information shop.pkys.com/ PKYS Inc is based in Annapolis MD. We specialize in all aspects of Marine Electrical Systems. We know and use the products shown on our website and would be happy to explain them to you and give advice on their use. Just give us a call at 410...
Victron Lynx Distributor
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Victron Lynx Distributor
Victron Lynx Smart BMS
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Victron Lynx Smart BMS
Balmar Adjustment Arms
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Balmar Adjustment Arms
Balmar Alternator Pulleys
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Balmar Alternator Pulleys
Balmar Alternators Overview
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Balmar Alternators Overview
Van Electrical System Demo Using Victron Energy, BEP Marine, & Blue Sea Systems
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Van Electrical System Demo Using Victron Energy, BEP Marine, & Blue Sea Systems
Balmar Altmount Serpentine Kit Installation
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Balmar Altmount Serpentine Kit Installation
How to swap out a pulley on a Balmar alternator
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How to swap out a pulley on a Balmar alternator
Mounting Procedure for Heavy Victron Energy Items
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Mounting Procedure for Heavy Victron Energy Items
NEW! Victron Energy 12 V 200Ah Lithium Ion Battery
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NEW! Victron Energy 12 V 200Ah Lithium Ion Battery
Blue Sea Systems 8027 AC Circuit Breaker Panel
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Blue Sea Systems 8027 AC Circuit Breaker Panel
Blue Sea Systems 8023 Circuit Breaker Panel
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Blue Sea Systems 8023 Circuit Breaker Panel
Blue Sea Systems Terminal Strips
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Blue Sea Systems Terminal Strips
ARS5 Regulator Display
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ARS5 Regulator Display
PKYS Inc talks about Blue Sea Systems PowerPosts
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PKYS Inc talks about Blue Sea Systems PowerPosts

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  • @charlesrg
    @charlesrg 14 днів тому

    Can you see the dashboard from cerbo screen ?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 14 днів тому

      No the dashboard is only available on a computer.

  • @laurentsosson1739
    @laurentsosson1739 18 днів тому

    Hello and barvo for the video I wanted to ask you if it is possible to install the bms from victron (16S for a packlife that I have in 48 volts? 600AH)? or do you have to have a victron battery? my batteries are EVE 280AH in 16/2P can we wire all the batteries with the bms from victron or do we need a bms compatible with the victron? otherwise is it possible if there is no can in the battery pack to tell victron (multiplus and cerbo GX) that I have a lead gel battery pack? there is no bms on the lead in general? my pack can be protected by its own BMS cutoff 2.80 volts and maximum charge at 3.65 volts Possibly just to emit more or less on the multiplus? thank you laurent

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 18 днів тому

      The Victron BMS range are for Victron batteries only, sorry.

  • @PaulA-rv4ic
    @PaulA-rv4ic Місяць тому

    As the new owner of a 2023 Winnebago Revel, this info is very helpful.

  • @edwintorres5850
    @edwintorres5850 Місяць тому

    I have 3 Mppt victron my question its if I can connect one of the Mppt using the VE Direct to USB interface to the one of the VE CAN Ports?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc Місяць тому

      You won't be able to connect it to the VE Can port. You can connect the MPPT to the Cerbo using the VE Direct to USB interface but you must connect it to one of the USB ports. If you have more USB devices than USB ports you can use a USB hub.

  • @MitchOfCanada
    @MitchOfCanada 2 місяці тому

    just got a 12v 200ah for $550 canadian...

  • @Kanuka-Forest
    @Kanuka-Forest 2 місяці тому

    Good video, can you make more on programming the cerbo, particularly generator stop start relay please?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 2 місяці тому

      Good suggestion, I will see what I can do.

  • @scotttannehill3533
    @scotttannehill3533 2 місяці тому

    I have the same setup and my 2nd Distributor (out going power side) is not recognized by the BMS. Do I need to toggle jumpers on one of the distributors? Or?

  • @Sail_in_alterego
    @Sail_in_alterego 2 місяці тому

    Hi great video! Can we connect nmea 2k via usb port using Actisense product? What your thoughts about

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 2 місяці тому

      I'm pretty sure you can not connect NMEA 2000 via USB. You can connect it using the Victron VE Can to NMEA 2000 cable

  • @andreasschindler6077
    @andreasschindler6077 3 місяці тому

    Why bothering with those ridiculous imperial units? They built it metric in the Netherlands.

  • @Foxfried
    @Foxfried 3 місяці тому

    Learn to code this is crap.

  • @jalhex
    @jalhex 4 місяці тому

    Quite enlightening, thanks!

  • @eeobeeob
    @eeobeeob 4 місяці тому

    This is great, thank you!

  • @803mastiff9
    @803mastiff9 4 місяці тому

    Can the Multiplus II be setup / programmed through Victron Connect via a Cerbo GX connected to the internet?

  • @stanleybabu8839
    @stanleybabu8839 4 місяці тому

    Hi Peter, on the SMART BMS CL, do you notice the orange and yellow LED lights remaining on? The red LED is not on. Is this the correct function. Lastly, don’t notice a LYNX DC distributor. It’s looks like you used a different busbar. Is this more advantageous?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 4 місяці тому

      This is a demo and is not fully functional, It uses the BEP PRO electrical system as an alternative to the Lynx distribution system. You will find both on our website in the COMPONENTS section

    • @stanleybabu8839
      @stanleybabu8839 4 місяці тому

      Thank you Peter

  • @sflscott11
    @sflscott11 4 місяці тому

    This by far is one of the best Cerbo GX videos out there, thanks!

  • @alanb76
    @alanb76 5 місяців тому

    some folks have connected inverters to the HV battery to get more efficient access to the EV battery power.

  • @sjdtmv
    @sjdtmv 5 місяців тому

    I was able to capture data on a Venus OS and send it to a MQTT Broker, Thanks greatly

  • @redb5640
    @redb5640 5 місяців тому

    Very clear explanations.

  • @JdZ-2023
    @JdZ-2023 7 місяців тому

    And you can enable Node-Red when you have the new version and the last software!

  • @johnalberto7855
    @johnalberto7855 7 місяців тому

    I wealth of information, thank you for your time and knowledge. I can't believe Victron hasn't done this, I have been such a lack of product instructions from a vendor.

  • @roversberg
    @roversberg 7 місяців тому

    please don't uoload a video if the sound is that crappy...it sucks

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 7 місяців тому

      The video snippet was for an addon for a Blog post. We could do a proper video for Gui Mods

  • @damianhla
    @damianhla 7 місяців тому

    Excellent! Thank you so much for this exciting information. I have an ongoing issue with some of my Victron SmartSolar 100/50 controllers which I am hoping can be resolved with this solution. Of the six 100/50 they regularly randomly decided to NOT wake up in the morning. Despite having a solar panel voltage above 60v, they still not charnging. The workaround would be to go into the battery configuration, disable the controller, wait until the pop-up to enable the controller appears, then enable the controller. The controller will then immediate spring back into action and start charging. It apperas to be a firmware bug which Victron has with these contollers. The other two Victron 150/100 never experience this issue. Only happens to my 100/50 conrollers. Hopefully with Code Red, I can get them to perform a self check at 6am every morning on the solar panel voltage, if this exceeds a certain theshold and the controller is still not in the charging mode, to cycle to the disable/enable action to wake up the controller.

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 7 місяців тому

      You seem to have an issue with your controllers that could be resolved with more troubleshooting and without having to resort to Node Red. Unless you are a programmer familiar with the language Node Red is going to be a bit cumbersome for one off uses like this. We envisage it being used in industrial applications where there are multiple iterations of the same installation.

    • @damianhla
      @damianhla 7 місяців тому

      @@pkysinc This is the 3rd year these Victron SmartSolar 100/50 have been in service for my Offgrid solar. One of the six has already developed an issue with its current sensor and got sent back for warranty service. Of the other 5x, they are connected via Bluetooth plus the VE Direct connection. Whether this is running with the Smart BMS 712 or now the Lynx Shunt, the random inactive charging issue still persists. Sometimes it is one, other times two units, but i have not seen three. They don't have CAN bus communication to the Cerbo GX, like my other 150/100 do, that is one main difference. And the 150/100 never developed this issue, despite running on the same network and serving the same period of operation. I am not sure, but i think there may be a QC issue with these 100/50. They are not as robust as the 150/100. Obviously they run different firmware. As a software developer, i have the technical background to develop software solutions to address problems. I don't mind doing so. I tried pinging with others but few run as many controllers concurrently like my system, so they have not encountered this problem yet. I did encountered the random temp compensation issue that Andy ( from Offgrid garage) mentioned which stopped the controller from charging... this happened out of nowhere one morning. But overall, i am familiar with the type of tantrum these 100/50 can throw at me now, so if there is an easy way to develop counter measures against them, it would be the easiest approach i can take to ensure that the system continues to run 24x7 with minimal supervision. Unfortunately i do not have visibility to the firmware code for the 100/50. But it wouldn't be difficult to add a sanity check when the PV voltage is Not zero or a certain threshold, and the controller has NOT been disabled that the controller should NOT be in the OFF charging state. It should be reset to start the Bulk/Absorption charging state. The funny thing is, even if i go through the menu to disable the charger when i see this problem, if i don't wait until the pop up reminder to suggest enabling the changer, before re-enabling the charger again, it won't fix the problem. The re-enabling MUST be done AFTER the pop up reminder appears... so this is one observation i noted. It definitely looks to me like a software /firmware bug. And the problem can occur in any of my 6x 100/50 controllers, it is not localised. Compare this to the 150/100 that runs a different firmware and never experiences this issue, it further reinforces this speculation that it is firmware specific issue.

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 7 місяців тому

      This is not the correct place to be discussing this

  • @koruoverland
    @koruoverland 7 місяців тому

    Great batteries! The most energy dense on the market, the only thing that comes close is the 12V 330Ah from Victron as well.

  • @alessandronicotradisangiac5328
    @alessandronicotradisangiac5328 8 місяців тому

    Hi, I'ver a question. Can you suggest me which digital sensor I can buy for set as alarm of presence of water? I need just alarm. Thanks

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 8 місяців тому

      Any ON-OFF float switch would work for that application.

    • @alessandronicotradisangiac5328
      @alessandronicotradisangiac5328 8 місяців тому

      @@pkysinc do you've a sample? Can you suggest me also a temperature sensor?

  • @davidpatrick1813
    @davidpatrick1813 8 місяців тому

    thank you.. excellent and to the point

  • @danielcondila2200
    @danielcondila2200 8 місяців тому

    Esa idea de armarios es de los rumanos😅

  • @socaliguy81
    @socaliguy81 8 місяців тому

    Can you tell me which relay is controlled by the soft switch on the Cerbo GX GUI? It's called Relay 2 but I'm not sure which device its controlling. There are relay outs on my Cerbo, Lynx BMS, and Inverter/charger.

  • @jamesnguyen9033
    @jamesnguyen9033 8 місяців тому

    This review summary should be used by Victron as their Cerbo GX Quick Installation Guide.

  • @NeoNosrati-ColumbusSoft
    @NeoNosrati-ColumbusSoft 9 місяців тому

    How do you make those good looking cables? Where can I get that? The red ones connected to the BMS?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 9 місяців тому

      We made them here in house, im sure there are places you can buy them

  • @fms4521
    @fms4521 9 місяців тому

    Hi,this video was very clear and helpfull to get it to work.I have tried to communicate with the cerbo from my local PC via a paho.client. I got connection but not a response based on the Topics as described in some docs. I only could get the data if I used node red by forwarding the input data through mqtt out to my local mosquitto broker. Is there a way to receive the data directly without using inbuild broker in the cerbo? Thanks in advvance for your help

  • @FutureSystem738
    @FutureSystem738 9 місяців тому

    Outstanding presentation, THANKS! 👍 P.S. I’ll be picking up my new Cerbo GX later this week. I am not 100% certain but think I’ll need to buy a a cable? Do I need anything extra to connect to my BMV-712?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 8 місяців тому

      You need a VE Direct cable to go between the Cerbo and the BMV

  • @GunnarEkedahl
    @GunnarEkedahl 10 місяців тому

    Great explanations in bot speach and drawings, best I've seen and most appreciated!

  • @ppi57
    @ppi57 10 місяців тому

    17:00 how/where do you assign a group... mine comes up as unassigned

  • @silvanocometta9760
    @silvanocometta9760 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the interesting video. As I do see my Multiplus on VRM but not on the Victron Connect app, as in your case, what do I have to do to see it in the app?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 10 місяців тому

      This video describes programming the MultiPlus locally using your laptop and Victron Connect. While it is possible to do this remotely over the VRM it is for advanced users and uses a different program. I wouldn't recommend trying it until you have become thoroughly familiar with doing it locally first. We don't give out the instructions but you will find them in the VRM Portal Documentation

  • @deningman
    @deningman 10 місяців тому

    Best overview on the net. Well done.

  • @richmurphy5647
    @richmurphy5647 10 місяців тому

    Nice if you can afford it, crazy.

  • @eitandzur
    @eitandzur 10 місяців тому

    What is the name of the type of plugs that the Cerbo uses? I'm needing to buy a replacement and don't know what to search. Thanks!

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 10 місяців тому

      The plugs should be available through a Victron distributor. I haven't found them commercially available except through Victron. We recommend you plug them all in when the unit is new, even if you are not using them. That way they don't get lost.

  • @551moley
    @551moley 11 місяців тому

    It all sounds really interesting, unfortunately for me as a total non geek, I think I'm lacking the base knowledge to make use of it, 56 years old never did computers at school, never played computer games or really even used a computer for anything past basic form filling. Hopefully somebody will see a opportunity to offer support like website builders and set up node red functionality for reasonable cost.

  • @7SeasVans
    @7SeasVans 11 місяців тому

    A wiring diagram / how to video by you guys would be super helpful

  • @tomaskey6844
    @tomaskey6844 Рік тому

    Good info! I’m slowly figuring out the Cerbo and feel it is a vital component for an optimal system. Very powerful tool!

  • @tomaskey6844
    @tomaskey6844 Рік тому

    Good info. I’m going to do some cabinet work and rewire my system. It takes some planning to get it all to fit neat and compact.

  • @tomaskey6844
    @tomaskey6844 Рік тому

    Finally I see where the trickle charge terminals are! The manual only says it can charge a starter battery. I just ordered a Multiplus II

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc Рік тому

      Did you order from PKYS Inc

    • @tomaskey6844
      @tomaskey6844 Рік тому

      @@pkysinc no. Not from PKYS. I’ll look you guys up. Thanks for the great video.

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc Рік тому

      OK think of us in the future, @@tomaskey6844

  • @wilkcm
    @wilkcm Рік тому

    Thanks for this video! I'm that geek power user you mentioned at the end of the video. I have an off-grid bunkie at a marina where I keep my boat. This allows me to turn on my golf cart charger connected to a smart plug only when I have surplus energy (when the charger state = float), instead of a fixed schedule.

  • @skinnerMTB
    @skinnerMTB Рік тому

    Victron is a great brand, but nearly $1000 for a 100ah battery is outrageous - especially when you consider they are not producing the cells, BMS, etc. Crazy expensive

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc 10 місяців тому

      Victron just had a 30% price drop on their 330 amp hour battery, and a 10% drop on the rest of the Smart Lithium range, as well as a 40% price drop on solar charge controllers.

  • @honumoorea873
    @honumoorea873 Рік тому

    Nice video, thanks for the clear explanation..!

  • @RaymondCidadMoser
    @RaymondCidadMoser Рік тому

    OMG great video guys. finally a total 360 on the serbo. must youtubers just explain what ever they functionality they are using on their serbo. about the usb extender mentioned there, do you have a link? I found the ruuvi links on your site, but not the extender. thanks

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc Рік тому

      The USB adapter can be bought anywhere

    • @RaymondCidadMoser
      @RaymondCidadMoser Рік тому

      ​@@pkysinc um.... a usb bluethooth adapter will have drivers for windows and mac (dont think there is an extender but an adapter). wont be supported by the cerbo GX OS. even if so, would create another bluethooth connection for the serbo. in the same place. wont extend it. can you guys confirm? am I missing something here? thanks

  • @fisherguy
    @fisherguy Рік тому

    You say you have to dod this with a MK3 USB interface but that's not the case if you have a Cerbo. You can do it through the cerbo but when I tried to go ahead and do it I got about 3 warnings about removing certain components, inverters etc. Interesting you only had 1 warning in this video. I'm trying to program my new Victron 2000/12/80 multiplus, just want to make sure I'm not screwing it up installing the firmware. Thx

  • @fuzzripear
    @fuzzripear Рік тому

    I tried doing this with LAN Ethernet port as I don't have the USB mk3. The MP Ii didn't show up as a device though. Is the mk3 required for this to work?

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc Рік тому

      Yes, you must use the Mk3 USB Interface

  • @friendly_but_not_your_friend

    Hi, could you power a home from the 12V battery of an EV car (using the UTIL mode) with this device?

    • @john0270
      @john0270 Рік тому

      not the whole home, you might keep a natural gas furnace going, maybe a fridge or freezer. to get any use out of 12 volts you atleast 200amp current capability to run this little inverter at 12v,

    • @pkysinc
      @pkysinc Рік тому

      EVs only have a small 12 volt battery for things like the lights, stereo and door locks so its unrealistic to expect them to power a big inverter. The battery that drives the car is at a much higher voltage.

    • @friendly_but_not_your_friend
      @friendly_but_not_your_friend Рік тому

      @@pkysinc hi yes I’m aware thank you but there’s an utilitary mode to power the 12V continuously from the 400V battery I was hoping this mode would enable the inverter to run at high capacity! Many thanks

  • @Paul_______
    @Paul_______ Рік тому

    This looks interesting. I wonder if it can change settings to devices attached to the cerbo like reducing the mppt amps if a temp sensor get too high