07:09 he has learned "how to say lie ".after growing up , he will countiune to say lies about his own oppenions to cheat someone. and if we see a kid who be able to say lie,we say "ohh the kid is 'smart' " :D . therefore,first kid looks like that ,"he is not smart". beause he always said the truth. in conclusion, if the ability of using mind grows, the ability of being immorality grows too.thats how humanity found religions and trade. same tricks: i have heaven and hell ; i have gold and shiny stone.
These experiments are a bit misleading since the child might be thinking that saying that he wants the sticker that he does not like is a lie and that its not good to tell lies
He was 3 in this study they are saying that if your 3 you think everyone knows what you know so him knowing it was John says that the mum will think it's John because that's what he knows so why do you think it is autism
Honestly, I wish for Katie to get caught in the funniest way possible. Mom: "JOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!" Jon: "Hey Katie, It's Dinner time!" Katie (talking with food clearly in her mouth): "Jomm ay ve muff'ms!" *Mom and Jon turn to Katie. Katie's cheeks are clearly puffed a little.* Mom: "What do you got in your mouth, young lady?" Katie: "Nuff'm! Jomm ate 'mm!" Mom: "And why are you wearing Jon's boots?" Katie: "Jomm put em on me?" Mom: "And you kept them on?" *Katie sweats profusely*
I'm watching all these videos from the point of view of a dog behavior specialist and it's intriguing to see what dogs can and can't do to sort of pin point there human-equivalent abilities. It's not easy because their way of thinking is in some ways similar and others very different. I find that they can cooperate like older humans (5 years olds) according to other videos. But it also seems to be that they think people know what they know, more like 3 year olds. They are able to deceive in a way, but more along the logic of "I'll get the other dog interested in that toy B so I can steal toy A". But not in the way to hide their own interest in a specific toy. They are able to pretend to like a toy, but not pretend to dislike a toy they actually like.
These experiments solidify in my minds eye the *almost perfect innocence of children (no matter the race or sex)* and how *WE RUIN AND INDOCRTINATE* them into our *HOPELESSLY FLAWED CULTURES AND REALITY.* In other words: Babies start out as almost perfect innocent beings connected to the universe and collective consciousness *WITH INTACT UNCALCIFIED PINEAL GLANDS* and we *ALMOST ALWAYS RUIN THEM.*
+Nico Bottema Or were taught to ignore by society, which insists on adherence to social constructs - code for "fake realities" that we enforce through our own creation and adherence.
That would be very easy to test. Two kids in separate rooms, one gets shown the "ropes" in the box, after which they would ask the other kid what's in it. You seem to be proposing that he would guess ropes.
How do you control for child trying to guess what the adults expect of him, and not tell what he actually thinks himself? I remember this mindset from the time I was a kid.
Exactly! How stupid is that?? Also, for "3 year old Ross": those little kids can hardly process all those complicated "adult sentences" and logical constructs, implications, conditionals etc. at all! They react to keywords, accents, and -- as you say -- expectations read right from the eyes of the adults. Look at the long processing times, the strong eye contacts, all the uncertainties: the clearly visible readiness to change the answer promptly, upon sensing disapproval. (A counter-probe should have done just that...) Piaget himself noted that in this preoperational phase children can't yet understand logic and cannot actually manipulate information. So there. ;)
+Dmitry Egorov But, I think that's the point. Children, before they learn that they can successfully manipulate those around him, respond in the manner they instinctively believe will have the most positive outcome. Afterwards, the child now realizes that he/she can manipulate to produce outcomes he/she desires.
THIS. I can read this kid like a book. He's trying to say the right answer despite what he knows. You just need to change the way you ask him: instead of "what did you think was in the box before I opened it?" you just need to ask "Do you remember what you thought was in the box before I showed you?" and he'll nod and then you ask "What was it?" and he'll say "Juice". NEXT
It's not just about lies and manipulation though, it means children can learn empathy. They can understand that other people have thoughts, if they take a toy from another child they will have another toy, but that child will now be unhappy. It's their mind starting to recognise the thoughts of others :)
katheriner10 I know, I just don't like a part of it, what they said in this video. By the way, it is not the child's problem when the other child is unhappy. The unhappy child has to make himself happy, by asking the toy back, standing up for himself, both children can learn in this situation.
In the monkey experiment, when she pulls out the monkey, do younger children realise that it's the monkey speaking? Could they not think that she is still simply asking them a question? That would explain why their answers are sincere.
I think their on the cusp; they can Play and suspend disbelief and still make sound reasoning. I think in sound reasoning premises needn't be true just logical.
Reminds me of Democrats always wanting what others have and taking it by creating laws that give them the right to take what we earn as Tax Payers. Democrats are the biggest crooks in America.
I think the small and big shoe leaving print story is too complicated for any smal child to make a judgement on them.
The narrator sounds like Alan Alda.
wow this is a rip off a SLP VHS tape? lol There is a good quality one someplace on youtube :D i have seen it a while back
I LOVE the creepy piano chord at 4:16!!! It basically says, "Get a load of this freaky kid who doesn't know a damn thing about anything!!!" LOL.
I know a 3 year old who I think will catch on immediately. Trying it tomorrow
There's a link to this video in one of the UK's Exam Board specifications
I'm screaming, the pure look of relief in patricks eyes when he realised, he had indeed. Fooled the monkey
07:09 he has learned "how to say lie ".after growing up , he will countiune to say lies about his own oppenions to cheat someone. and if we see a kid who be able to say lie,we say "ohh the kid is 'smart' " :D . therefore,first kid looks like that ,"he is not smart". beause he always said the truth. in conclusion, if the ability of using mind grows, the ability of being immorality grows too.thats how humanity found religions and trade. same tricks: i have heaven and hell ; i have gold and shiny stone.
hey michael, vsauce's here
Instructor: "So who will mom think ate the muffin?" Boy: "Katie" *Horror audio* Bru I was half-asleep watching this now I am lowkey scared.
These experiments are a bit misleading since the child might be thinking that saying that he wants the sticker that he does not like is a lie and that its not good to tell lies
The split between the mind and the world....
4:15 that sound made jump out of my bed i got so freaking scared dude omg
What if the kid misunderstood the question?? Did they try using an adult instead of a puppet?
Is this Hawkeye Pierce narrating??
These experiments seem really poorly put together honestly
The kid that’s 18 months older is a lot smarter
I think the second kid has autism too because the mom would think it was John not Katie
He was 3 in this study they are saying that if your 3 you think everyone knows what you know so him knowing it was John says that the mum will think it's John because that's what he knows so why do you think it is autism
You thought it was juice and I knew the difference between ribbons and ropes at 3
1 person= true knowledge 👏
What if Jacob is trying to show the adults that he is very honest, despite honesty can hurt him
"He also believes if he think something so must everyone else" Adults also think like that :)
0:23 What's in the box? JACOB. *WHAT'S IN THE F... BOX ?!!*
Who's the narrator?
Kids are so dumb
Children are wonderfully honest. It's a good quality.
What nobody knows is that Jacob actually lied to the woman in order to trick her. She was the monkey. He got the stickers he actually wanted. 8)
LOL ROPES
Honestly, I wish for Katie to get caught in the funniest way possible. Mom: "JOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!" Jon: "Hey Katie, It's Dinner time!" Katie (talking with food clearly in her mouth): "Jomm ay ve muff'ms!" *Mom and Jon turn to Katie. Katie's cheeks are clearly puffed a little.* Mom: "What do you got in your mouth, young lady?" Katie: "Nuff'm! Jomm ate 'mm!" Mom: "And why are you wearing Jon's boots?" Katie: "Jomm put em on me?" Mom: "And you kept them on?" *Katie sweats profusely*
Maybe that's what the kid was thinking and just forgot to say it out loud I am joking but that would be funny
Patrick grew up to be a world-renowned con-artist.
Lmfao.
What if he just doesn't understand the meaning of the words? "What did you think was inside the box?" He may just dont understand the past tense well.
From which documentary is these
I'm watching all these videos from the point of view of a dog behavior specialist and it's intriguing to see what dogs can and can't do to sort of pin point there human-equivalent abilities. It's not easy because their way of thinking is in some ways similar and others very different. I find that they can cooperate like older humans (5 years olds) according to other videos. But it also seems to be that they think people know what they know, more like 3 year olds. They are able to deceive in a way, but more along the logic of "I'll get the other dog interested in that toy B so I can steal toy A". But not in the way to hide their own interest in a specific toy. They are able to pretend to like a toy, but not pretend to dislike a toy they actually like.
Patrick: I want that one Monkey: okay I'll take that one Patrick: get played idiot
Plot twist: They were lying to the human too
Daddy Thiccums Monkeys aren’t human
What's in the wallet? Me: money! Goes shopping and spends it all Next day. What's in the wallet? Me: money!
I'm about to take a child's favorite sticker and there's nothing they can do about it
Kids plain stupid
These experiments solidify in my minds eye the *almost perfect innocence of children (no matter the race or sex)* and how *WE RUIN AND INDOCRTINATE* them into our *HOPELESSLY FLAWED CULTURES AND REALITY.* In other words: Babies start out as almost perfect innocent beings connected to the universe and collective consciousness *WITH INTACT UNCALCIFIED PINEAL GLANDS* and we *ALMOST ALWAYS RUIN THEM.*
1:30 is when I realized Alan Alda was narrating.
I couldn't follow that middle story though, seriously that kid is a genius.
is that alan alda talking?
Yes it is. The full episode is available on UA-cam. Scientific American Frontiers, episode is called, "It's a Kid's World".
What if children are connected to some collective consciousness that we all forgot about growing up :o
+Nico Bottema Or were taught to ignore by society, which insists on adherence to social constructs - code for "fake realities" that we enforce through our own creation and adherence.
That would be very easy to test. Two kids in separate rooms, one gets shown the "ropes" in the box, after which they would ask the other kid what's in it. You seem to be proposing that he would guess ropes.
How do you control for child trying to guess what the adults expect of him, and not tell what he actually thinks himself? I remember this mindset from the time I was a kid.
Exactly! How stupid is that?? Also, for "3 year old Ross": those little kids can hardly process all those complicated "adult sentences" and logical constructs, implications, conditionals etc. at all! They react to keywords, accents, and -- as you say -- expectations read right from the eyes of the adults. Look at the long processing times, the strong eye contacts, all the uncertainties: the clearly visible readiness to change the answer promptly, upon sensing disapproval. (A counter-probe should have done just that...) Piaget himself noted that in this preoperational phase children can't yet understand logic and cannot actually manipulate information. So there. ;)
+Dmitry Egorov But, I think that's the point. Children, before they learn that they can successfully manipulate those around him, respond in the manner they instinctively believe will have the most positive outcome. Afterwards, the child now realizes that he/she can manipulate to produce outcomes he/she desires.
THIS. I can read this kid like a book. He's trying to say the right answer despite what he knows. You just need to change the way you ask him: instead of "what did you think was in the box before I opened it?" you just need to ask "Do you remember what you thought was in the box before I showed you?" and he'll nod and then you ask "What was it?" and he'll say "Juice". NEXT
@@lordoa nah bro all these UA-cam comments are from professors of psychology they must be true
That in itself would demonstrate theory of mind, no?
I'm learning this in psych!
It isn't a good thing that children learn to lie and to manipulate.
It's not just about lies and manipulation though, it means children can learn empathy. They can understand that other people have thoughts, if they take a toy from another child they will have another toy, but that child will now be unhappy. It's their mind starting to recognise the thoughts of others :)
katheriner10 I know, I just don't like a part of it, what they said in this video. By the way, it is not the child's problem when the other child is unhappy. The unhappy child has to make himself happy, by asking the toy back, standing up for himself, both children can learn in this situation.
totally normal
Arent they just saying that they always thought there are ropes because that would appear to be the right answer?
In the monkey experiment, when she pulls out the monkey, do younger children realise that it's the monkey speaking? Could they not think that she is still simply asking them a question? That would explain why their answers are sincere.
I think their on the cusp; they can Play and suspend disbelief and still make sound reasoning. I think in sound reasoning premises needn't be true just logical.
There are adults like this.
Reminds me of Democrats always wanting what others have and taking it by creating laws that give them the right to take what we earn as Tax Payers. Democrats are the biggest crooks in America.