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How to Packraft: Hitting rocks
What should you do when you hit a rock sideways ? Read on !
In the video, you will see me ferrying across and then doing the same ferry hitting the rock.
This is a mistake that catches a lot of people out at the beginning.
The current pushes you downstream you are paddling 90° to the current, suddenly you end up hitting a rock sideways in the middle of the river. So what do you do ? You lean away from the rock !Too bad, you get flipped.
Why, because your downstream edge gets pushed on the rock causing the water to grab your downstream and... You know what happens next... You go from packrafter to swimmer !
So, what should you do ?
-Be pro-active, LOOK AHEAD WHERE you WANT to go (if you look at the rock, you'll end up on it !So look at the exit point you want to go instead).
-If it is too late and a "collision" with the rock cannot be avoided, don't worry, I have go a solution for that as well !
-LEAN DOWNSTREAM towards the rock(I know, counter intuitive, I know...), as if you wanted to hug the rock, and don't be shy : LIFT your UPSTREAM edge ! To gain stability, put your downstream hand/arm on the rock and use it to push yourself off on one side or the other, away from the rock. I like to "rest" my paddle shaft on my upstream shoulder.
Lifting your UPSTREAM edge allows the water to go underneath your boat and prevents the water from grabbing your upstream edge (which, remember ,causes you to flip !)
If you pay attention, you can see that when I am doing my first ferry across, I am actually looking at the eddy, where I want to end my crossing.
Whereas in my second ferry, when I hit the rock, I am actually looking at the rock. So look where you want to go, and commit to it !
That's it for today !
You can learn more about packrafting on my website : packraft101.wordpress.com
The video was shot mid-may on the lower Guil river, in the Hautes-Alpes region of France.
I am in a Self bailor Alpacka Raft Wolverine.
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Відео

Packrafting the Fier
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David and I made the most of the spring like conditions early April to go paddling on the Fier (near Annecy). The flow was about 10cms. Ideally you want to run it between 10 and 15cms. I paddle a Wolverine from Alpackaraft from packrafteurope.com David paddles a Kokopelli Packraft Want to learn about packrafting : packraft101.wordpress.com
3 tips to improve your paddling.
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3 tips to improve your paddling : -make sure your boat is stiff ! Your boat will naturally deflate a bit when in contact with cold water, so make you top it up at the start and regularly. -Loads of people lean back when they are paddling. This position prevents you from using your upper body for your strokes and, prevents you from using your hips. INSTEAD, sit upright, "chest out, bum out" -pad...
Analysis : packraft flip and re-entry
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The idea was to cut across the lateral wave and carve into the eddy. As you can see, it did not happen... Analysis : - As I reach the wave sideways (to cut across into the eddy), my boat got very briefly side surfed and I leaned upstream (as if I was going to do a back deck roll !). As a consequence of my leaning upstream, I lifted my downstream edge, which resulted on a flip. INSTEAD, I should...
Packraft Lower Guil peak flow.
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/!\paddling alone exposes to a lot more risks and is not recommended. Quick run down the lower part of the Guil (Briançon area, France) back in early June when it was pumping hard. There is no gauge on the Guil but the durance was at 130cms that day. I parked my car at the bottom of the run and hiked to the put in "pont du simoust", the hike up takes about 1h.
Packraft down the Giffre (France)
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Packrafting down the Giffre from below the Gorges de tines to Samoens at 10cms. The hike up takes about 1h and allows you to scout almost the entire run. 10cms is an ideal flow.
Kayak hand roll
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I find that learning to hand roll my kayak is really helping my rolling all together. Nothing to learn from this video, just a bit of showmanship. Location : l'argentiere-la-bessee, France
Rolling my packraft (self-bailer)
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Since I can roll my kayak, I wondered how much harder it would be to roll a packraft. I do not think that rolling is an important skill for packrafters (as it is for kayakers), I even think that it should be learnt last.
Self-bailing packrafts for whitewater
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In this video Max advocates very passionately for self-bailing packrafts and debunks some myths going around about them. Feel free to add your thoughts and get the conversation started ! According to Max, self-bailing packrafts are awesome for whitewater because : -They are safer because they can be re-flipped and re-entered while in the current, -They are super easy to hop on and off which is ...
Being more visible on the water - reflective tape
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In this episode we see a very simple method to add visibility to your equipment : reflective tape If you have know other methods to increase your visibility, let us know !
Avoiding easy flips with packrafts
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In the video we look at two of the most commun mistakes that make packrafters flip and how we can avoid them. I am NOT a packrafting guru nor an expert. This video is a conversation starter, feel free to comment. Happy lockndown everyone !
Packrafts and perimeter lines.
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In this videos, Max talks about perimeter lines on packrafts. Also, I forgot to mention that a thicker rope is easier to grab and hold on to. If you have comments or suggestions about perimeter lines, leave a comment so we can all learn !

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @mrschwartzmc
    @mrschwartzmc 29 днів тому

    One scenario where you definitely don't want any lines on the sides of the boat is during wet reentry. Keep all lines to an absolute minimum. If you have a bow bag, you don't need a bow line. Good talk!

  • @___Chris___
    @___Chris___ Місяць тому

    I just ordered the Anfibio TXLB+ self-bailer. Can't wait to try it out.

  • @GabrielJM
    @GabrielJM 2 місяці тому

    NRS has come out this year with their new packraft boats Nd they are all SBs at least the ones for ww.

  • @BASEmonkey
    @BASEmonkey 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for this video!!! I just ordered a Wolverine SB and was wondering today if I made the right choice or not. I got the SB for a lot of the reasons you mentioned and you mentioned a few more points I hadn't thought of. Additionally, it's nice to hear from someone with experience with both a decked and SB boat and how admit you are that you prefer SB. You've added confidence to my decision, thank you!!!

  • @Jo3826
    @Jo3826 5 місяців тому

    Hello, and sorry for my English (auto translation) I just browsed your word press and several videos! It makes me ask myself even more questions and your vision joins the vision of several packrafteurs with whom I was able to exchange (auto bouncer). It's a pity the exchange section on the equipment does not work. I will have a question, what is your opinion on the Packraft auto bouncer of the Mékong brand? Thank you very much for your involvement and help and surely see you soon on one of the French rivers :)

  • @e-tumleh
    @e-tumleh 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video !

  • @williamhammesfahr45
    @williamhammesfahr45 Рік тому

    Great video, what do you think of using a self bailing boat with a removable white water deck?

  • @nzadventurer
    @nzadventurer Рік тому

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @jimborad7490
    @jimborad7490 Рік тому

    To prevent punctures and rips on sharp rocks and debris, a less inflated boat helps in those situations. My multi day trips don't want to include backcountry raft repairs.

  • @russellhathaway1598
    @russellhathaway1598 Рік тому

    Splash your boat with water before you start to paddle. This will help to temper it so you should only have to fill it up once after initially blowing it up. Also, watch out for the smnall round gasket that is located in the valve cap, they can very easily fall out and that will cause you to loose air over time.

  • @nn.roberts
    @nn.roberts Рік тому

    😀

  • @justinpotter3417
    @justinpotter3417 Рік тому

    Which kokopelli raft is this? Looks sweet!

  • @insr3339
    @insr3339 Рік тому

    Thx for sharing! Didn't realize the tigh straps can be used to get back in the boat :) I guess this is safe to do from a boat damage perspective? :)

  • @Inevitabledreamss
    @Inevitabledreamss Рік тому

    Recently got into packrafting and your videos certainly helped a lot!

  • @nn.roberts
    @nn.roberts Рік тому

    Thanks for the video. I will follow this channel. Started packraft this year so I have a lot to learn. John, Norway.

    • @Inevitabledreamss
      @Inevitabledreamss Рік тому

      Just ordered my first packraft ever from Kipara - i'm very excited Godspeed! / Erik, Sweden

    • @nn.roberts
      @nn.roberts Рік тому

      @@Inevitabledreamss Hei igjen. Jeg kjøpte også min packraft fra Kipara. Har en Ropelv 225.

  • @fid0308
    @fid0308 Рік тому

    cool video😎 beautiful creek, we were there in July, unfortunately we did not have so much water and could not go Guil, but for that we paddled Ubaye, Durance, Guisane and Iser... ...next time I come earlier in the year...😅

  • @WhistlingMushroom
    @WhistlingMushroom 2 роки тому

    I have more like universal touring packraft (MRS Adventure X2) with no internal storage system (thought it will be more reliable and simple) and I have just two ropes on bow (both going from left side to right side) and they are little bit loose. I use them to fit backpack on bow (using one luggage strap) when using boat as two-person packraft (canoe style) on easy rivers. When I use it as solo packraft (kayak style) I put my backpack in front of me into the boat. I sometimes run some small creecks which are not really white water, it has like max. class 2 sections, but they can be full of fallen trees so I did not fit any rope on stern. I thought I do not need rope there and it just adds danger of being stuck somewhere.

  • @vk1058
    @vk1058 2 роки тому

    Have them both, and I love my self bailers. Awesome for portages and scouting also. Probably won't go back to a deck raft again.

  • @ronactive
    @ronactive 2 роки тому

    Nice Video. Greetings ronactive

  • @dgrfsthrgsergwrtghasefq
    @dgrfsthrgsergwrtghasefq 2 роки тому

    That backband is the biggest hazard on your boat, kokopelli should be ashamed of designing something so completely unsafe that serves no purpose beyond being to cheap to put on a d-ring in the correct place.

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 2 роки тому

      I agree. The straps at the back of the backband are a bit long and represent an entrpment hazard. It could be improved. It is not a worse entrapment hasard than thigh straps on any packraft though. The risk is there, we must aknowledge it and do our best to mitigate it. That's the reason why Alpacka did not want to install thigh straps some years ago. "kokopelli should be ashamed " is a statement way to strong though. I really enjoyed this boat and did not feel less safe than in any other boat I have used.

  • @mathieuchable2885
    @mathieuchable2885 2 роки тому

    When your paddle stroke is on the rigth side, you push with you left leg and not the rigth.

    • @GabrielJM
      @GabrielJM 2 роки тому

      True, sort of. I was taught that also many many years ago. Most people though cannot synchronize this movement and don't understand why you need to do this.

    • @GabrielJM
      @GabrielJM Місяць тому

      Correct. This concept was taught to me many many yrs ago also when I was learning, the explanation being that by pushing the contralateral leg you tend to compensate for the boat swinging to the side opposite the paddle stroke. Theoretically sound, but hard to synchronise as you put it.

  • @ulimerckens9925
    @ulimerckens9925 2 роки тому

    It is nothing to see...this video ist worthless.

  • @current-raft
    @current-raft 2 роки тому

    One more thing, the holes on the floor sometimes get caught by stones and SB floors rip easier than without holes in it. But the materials are quite strong today.

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 2 роки тому

      I have never seen the floor ripping because of the holes at the bottom. Neither me or any of my friends.

    • @current-raft
      @current-raft 2 роки тому

      @@packraftingtv3464 I have seen and fixed it quite recently on a two person WW Selfbailer. It’s not very common, but of course easier to tear, than without holes.

    • @nzadventurer
      @nzadventurer Рік тому

      Thanks for the video

  • @current-raft
    @current-raft 2 роки тому

    I partly agree! Selfbailers are easier to handle, after falling out, which makes them safer and easier concerning wet-reentries. Especially for beginners, mid-level paddlers. But always keep in mind, that a Selfbailing Packraft will by definition be a little slower. Especially when breaking through bigger holes, or boofing you will be slower and will need more force, so I think the risk to get caught in a rapid, is a little more pronounced with SB PR. Always think about the drainage time as well. So I prefer paddling with spray deck in more difficult WW, especially with higher flows, where rolling the Packraft is the way to go after a flip. This needs some training though. In shallow, more easier rivers or when giving instruction course a Selfbailer is the better choice. Best regards Tim Current-raft.de

  • @Pickecko
    @Pickecko 2 роки тому

    Thanks Mate!

  • @alexmultimodalpackrafting915
    @alexmultimodalpackrafting915 3 роки тому

    I second the part where thigh straps slip away under the spray coat after specific manoeuvres (even with the 4-5-point ones). It was always a hassle, and I was happy to do without in a self-bailer. That having been said, no plus without a minus (more water inside= less flexibility in the moment and it can get a little chilly in colder temperatures as John has described:-).

  • @wahallagroove2966
    @wahallagroove2966 3 роки тому

    Very satisfying listening to your comments. Keep making contents.

  • @wahallagroove2966
    @wahallagroove2966 3 роки тому

    Finally!! I found very helpful channel as a beginner. Thanks a lot for the explanation.

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      Glad you like it ! I already have a few videos I need to upload.

  • @wenigdabei
    @wenigdabei 3 роки тому

    6 tips thx :) great channel

  • @steveehh4567
    @steveehh4567 3 роки тому

    Watching this video made me realize how much your comments made sense as I progress more into challenging whitewater. At the end of the day the self bailer is more versatile for sure having a WW deck Gnarwhal at the moment which is a bit of pain. I have a self bailing kit on the way and have removed and sold my deck. I live in NW Canada but I can see why Alaskans liking the WW deck.

  • @toddwalsh3332
    @toddwalsh3332 3 роки тому

    @Caj Koskinen maybe you could weigh in since you have had your self bailer Wolverine for a while.

  • @yuriykashnikov6296
    @yuriykashnikov6296 3 роки тому

    Great vids! Please continue!

  • @troutboynz
    @troutboynz 3 роки тому

    Bang on, I have never understood the "cold feet" in a self-bailer argument either, usually from those who've not paddled one! The the self bailers.

  • @NoCeiling
    @NoCeiling 3 роки тому

    Awesome man. Would love to see videos like this, but first we watch it at speed. Then, perhaps slowed down with verbal commentary and analysis. Thanks for sharing!

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      Yeah, I have been thinking about doing that but I am not good enough at editing just yet... It will come come eventually though. Appreciate your feedback.

  • @fayleya3865
    @fayleya3865 3 роки тому

    Is the back of your shirt attached to the packraft? Isn’t that a massive safety hazard?

    • @fayleya3865
      @fayleya3865 3 роки тому

      Doh! Just realized it’s probably the seat back! 🤦‍♀️

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      @@fayleya3865 it is the back rest indeed. I am NOT attached to my boat. Would be a significant safety hasard indeed.

  • @janis6321
    @janis6321 3 роки тому

    Price, weight, packing size are another advantages of SB

  • @PackraftBeta
    @PackraftBeta 3 роки тому

    Good stuff bud

  • @abl5516
    @abl5516 3 роки тому

    What do you all think of SB's when the water starts getting thin and you start dragging bottom..TIA

  • @johnskiahoy
    @johnskiahoy 3 роки тому

    Nice one Max ! With these travel restrictions Looks like we’ll have to wait until September to paddle with you ☹️

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      I'll still be paddling in September ! Don't worry ! We'll go on the Durance ! YEAH !!! We could organise a catch up meetup !

  • @sethmurphy7656
    @sethmurphy7656 3 роки тому

    Thanks for taking the time to share the info., excellent analysis.

  • @rawmancerafting
    @rawmancerafting 3 роки тому

    Well done. A single concept in a short video.

  • @fayleya3865
    @fayleya3865 3 роки тому

    Nice ferry

  • @fayleya3865
    @fayleya3865 3 роки тому

    What kind of knot did you use?

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      I think I just have a figure 8 intertwined in the tiedown, but there are a lot of options possible.

  • @fayleya3865
    @fayleya3865 3 роки тому

    I’m interested in the best way to tie up a backpack to the raft so that it isn’t a hazard

  • @sebastienrecoura6442
    @sebastienrecoura6442 3 роки тому

    Hi,where you go in the river and where you go out?

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      put in just below the "gorge des tines" in Sixt, and take out in samoens, just after the bridge once you've passed the cablecar.

    • @sebastienrecoura6442
      @sebastienrecoura6442 3 роки тому

      @@packraftingtv3464 thanks

  • @paulbarthel3883
    @paulbarthel3883 3 роки тому

    I do not doubt the advantages you mention. But how is SB to paddle? How is it to boof when it is half full of water? Don't you miss a whole lot of fun because you are not riding high on waves? Alpacka does not recomend the SB Wolverine for padlers over 70 kg, incl gear. This is why I have ordered the Wolverine white water deck. BTW the Wolverine SB is 200 Euros cheaper than the one with skirt at Packraft Europe.

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      Hi Paul, I am not sure of what you mean by "riding high on wavse" I don't feel like I am any lower on waves because I have a SB (and used to have a deck boat). The thing about boofing with a boat half full of water is, I'd argue, a missconception. I very rarely get my boat half full of water. Even going through big waves. And when it does, it drains very rapidly. I think people would be very surprised. I think it is also important to think it terms of "risks vs rewards" how likely is it that you'd have to boof, seconds after you just got swamped by a wave ? Probably not often. Finally, If you have a look at what Mark oates does with his SB packraft, I don't think that paddling a SB limits your abilities. Thanks for your constructive comment. Have fun and paddle safe ! Max

    • @insr3339
      @insr3339 Рік тому

      I don't know where you found the info regarding the 70kg for Wolverines? Checked with Alpacka and is not true

  • @NoCeiling
    @NoCeiling 3 роки тому

    Nice! Would love to see a longer video walking through the technique differences between rolling a pack and a yak

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      Well, there isn't much difference in my opinion, I feel like a stretch a little bit more in the Packraft though. Also, a kayak feels a lot snappier.

    • @NoCeiling
      @NoCeiling 3 роки тому

      @@packraftingtv3464 Great, thank you for getting back to me! I look forward to the next video!

  • @NoCeiling
    @NoCeiling 3 роки тому

    Thanks, Max! Love the enthusiasm. Perhaps next time you can show us a few examples in the water...would love to see this discussion while you float a Class III! You know, for educational purposes. Thanks for the video

  • @anndebaldo7381
    @anndebaldo7381 3 роки тому

    Nice video! what raft are you using?

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      It was actually my first day in my self-bailer Alpackaraft Wolverine.

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      @K VZ I am the same as you ! The one in the video is a medium but I now own a large. It doesn't feel bigger, but the little bit of extra length allows me to wet exit more easily. I would recommend you to go for a Large.

  • @michaelrunk8593
    @michaelrunk8593 3 роки тому

    so silly question I notice your by yourself. How do you get back to your vehicle? Do you just walk back up stream do you have some one meet you? Just curious as im new and I don't have any one to go with me or to pick me up.

    • @packraftingtv3464
      @packraftingtv3464 3 роки тому

      good point ! I will add it to the description. I actually hiked up (takes about 1h).