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I choose a 5mm OD; 3mm ID brass tube. A 4mm ID will work as well and consumes a tad more air and I would recommend that for a more powerful spindle.

I don’t think there is one with a 1/4” shank available. If you would ask me if you can put a 6mm bit into that collet for mashining I would say no don’t do it. However just holding the probe should be possible.

There is a second video on my channel about the “cool mister”, however I have a small compressor from California Airtools. It is quiet and I really like it for my shop. The new design uses less air as there is a different nozzle. I find 15 psi a good starting point. My unit is the 4610AC. It’s about 7 years old and runs still good.

Thank you for the great information and the quick response.

No problem 😉

Thanks for reaching out

I plan on updating one of my servos to a 400W Stepperonline however this will take a while as I am currently using my machine to make the fogbuster and some other projects. I would give it a go and just read through the instructions the map to follow is the same as for the JMC Servo. I found the software easier to use.

@ I've been trying for a week now and I can't get the position error below 500 or so. There are no useful instructions for these servos anywhere and I'm about to give up. Maybe i try again in the future

Actually 500 is really good the scale is not the same as the JMC Servos. The increments on the resolver on the motor are much higher on OMP so my suggestion is take a dial indicator set onto the axis now move the ball screw until you see about 500 or so increments look at the movement on the indicator. I bet it will be in spec for what you are looking for.

I use it to touch off x and y. You can touch off z as well - in this config it is not really a tool length sensor however there is a kit you can buy as add on to make a tool length sensor out of it. If you have an ATC or you use the tool table with stored tool length then yes you can just touch off Z and that would work but it depends on the controller you are using.

Thx Matt, I think once you get your machine looking through the beginner to pro playlist will get you going quickly.

Yes that means that the plunge is too slow for the rpm both go hand in hand. So let’s say we are talking about an 1/8” bit and somewhere around 16-18k rpm then 400mm/min plunge should work without a burn mark. Some controllers are a bit slow between the transition of plunge to forward move and that can also cause a burn mark in the wood - that is more difficult to teoubleshoot.

Na du bist ja gut 😊

It is working really good. The only improvement I recommend is to use a barbed fitting on the hose connection as the push to connect fitting has an O Ring that can deteriorate oder time and leak. Thanks for reaching out

Yes EdingCNC can rotate the WCS based on 3 touch points. If you can do that on 2 coordinate systems that I will have to look up. Great question !

Yes that is possible. These Ofen come with a gear set so the motor has some torque at the required low rpm. It will work but I had one fail after a short period of time - on the other hand a friend runs one for per a year now. Thank you for reaching out !

Yes, I can really not recommend using them indoors.

So I usually never model 2 or 3 parts with a vice like I shown here in Fusion 360. Instead I assign G55 through GXX on that first setup like I have shown. I also showed how to set a specific WCS by assigning it to the second part. G56 was never assigned accept in the first setup were it counts up from G54 to G56. This is why the simulation can not show that it moved to the next part as all WCS are assigned to the first part / setup. I have not simulated in the tool path using one setup to go to 3 different parts. But it might be that there is a way to do it - and I don’t know. However the workflow I showed works good. I guess if you must have the simulation of all 3 parts you will need to copy the tool path to every set up and simulate each. And when you post the G-Code you do it like I have shown on just one setup.

Thank you ! I am not sure to call it a bug and I have never investigated if there is a different way to simulate this.

Thank you ! Appreciate your feedback !!!

Actually G92 can be a problem as it is a global offset. So it will also change the locations of G54 -G59. I EdingCNC I can change how my “setting to zero” in the DRO works. I think default is G92 but I changed it to set the active WCS to zero. Something to watch out for.

​@@JBWorx it's just a matter of getting used to it. As mentioned I do not have G55,G56,etc. coordinate systems on my 5 tons CNC machine. I asked Mitsubishi to help us enabling it but I usually don't use it anymore. I'm quite surprised how advanced that system is even though it's 25 years old.

Yes there are certain work arounds, and if you have an ATC with probe or a fast way of establishing the WCS it will work well too. I think Fanuc made an impact how it is used in CNC and many controllers are based off that - and sure enough Mitsubishi being Japanese as well would have adopted that. The G code is around a really long time.

Thanks For reaching out

Thank you for reaching out !!

Thank you Gerrit !!!!

Yes exactly 👍

Thank you Kurt, glad you liked it

I have a couple of videos on this topic I think I mentioned it somewhere. With a small tube diameter of 4mm you will not need a high volume nor a lot of pressure. I would start at 20psi or around 1.4 bar. I use a California Air Tools air compressor with 1 or 1,5 hp and it is able to keep up with this system just fine. Hope this helps.

You are correct. That is what I did on my first improvement I just took the piece out that sits within the nozzle. Love your dust boot looks really nice. Also in the video the air pressure is way to high but possibly you have that because of demonstration purposes. Great video !

Congrats on your purchase, I think you will like it. Yes correct Sorotec sells a macro with the probe - apparently these are from the probe manufacturer. However you can download the generic Sorotec macro for Eding CNC. I use a slightly modified English version of it. It has 3d probing but not very advanced.

It’s actually not that bad, even as a beginner. That is a nice machine ! Congrats and have fun.

Yes I was wondering about that. One would think at 18k rpm or so they come apart - apparently not.

Well luckily this is the 3 bearing spindle and so far over the last 6 years it has held up just fine.

Go to the Automation Direct Website. There are 10 different models of the Metrol Precision Microswitch. I used the one with 1 micro meter resolution.

I used climb cutting. But depending on your bit you can sometimes get a nicer edge in plywood using conventional cutting.

I think the machine itself is not using much but yes you are correct the vacuum pumps run the length of the job and if powerful can add a few dollars to your bill. But if you are in an industrial building you should get a better rate for your electric than the residential rate.

I asked for the same, it would be super useful if someone with experience could do some setup and usage videos on Eding CNC. And JBWorx is just superb at making explanatory and informative videos. We will just have to pray to the Deus Mechanicus, and hope our questions get heard.

You guys crack me up. Yes it’s noted !!

@@JBWorx I subscribed based on this promise :) I use Eding CNC for a Hammer cnc router. I can get stuff done with it but I think I am missing out on most features so I really would love some tutorial of the most common features you use in it. Currently I only know how to load the program, do a Z probe, and how to hit the emergency stop if something goes wrong :) Would be nice with some more info. All tutorials available is for Mach3/4.

Lol yes thanks for your subscription. You are correct Mach 3/4 has a lot of information floating around. Most users of a CNC machine will learn to a level to accomplish the projects they have to / want to do and not beyond that. Great that you would like to do more. So the next video is about G54 and G55 work coordinate systems. A really powerful command that is extremely useful. I show how to use it in Eding CNC but it’s rather universal and even works in GRBL. I hope you will like it.

Oh I did not know that. So it’s not available on the German Amazon ?

@@JBWorx Yes, correct. When I click on your link, Amazon says "This item cannot be shipped to your selected delivery location. Please choose a different delivery location."

@gebbi80 so I looked on Amazon.de. I found the probe also as NPN but they are the NO contact version. If you cannot get the NC version I think it’s not the end of the world.

Yes that is a good suggestion. I also like the aluminum foil tape and just wrap the edge of the part if it is not conductive. However I stopped using this method after breaking a really expensive Datron bit. I set Z with my tool length sensor and use the 3D probe for x-y. It is accurate and fast.

Great question. So in my experience the 8.376mm will result in a “No Go” thread as the good side of the tread gauge will not thread in. It’s too tight. It is much closer to the 8.5mm. Best is to make one test cut. I was lucky this fit the bold on the first try I usually need a couple of tests to get it just right. Also changing the thread mill out can result in a different fit (vendor to vendor). Interesting is also that you will notice a change from Fusion 360 to a different CAM program (Master CAM for instance). So lots of variables here it’s not rocket science but if you sell parts best is to invest into a thread gauge.

The software license is included when you purchase the controller from Eding. You will no longer need GRBL.

You will probe twice. First on the calibrated standard position on your table. This will tell the controller the length of the tool. Next you probe on top of the part. This will tell the controller where the z zero of the part is. Now for the next tool change you only need to measure on the standard position on the table. The controller calculates the offset from tool one to tool two. Hope this makes sense.

@@JBWorx thank you for the reply. looks like your probing macro/function quite advance. I am using mach3 and macro I hv can be used to probe using touch plate. from probing I will hv the Z 0 of top of part. maybe you can do a video to demo wow do u probe with TLP?

I used Mach 3 only for a week or so in the beginning so the macro on my controller (Eding) will be much different.

@@JBWorx sir, this means you you need to put tools in a tool table?

sir, could you demonstrate sequence of how you probe and determine tool length for each tool?

Thank you glad you liked it

Good luck for your build!

Yes it is, as the pump will just be used to meter in the correct amount. It is working much better with the tank pressurized

@@JBWorx thanks for the reply. Another thing I noticed, in the PDF with your drawings and list of materials, the Loc-Line on Amazon is the blue/orange type when I search for "Loc-Line 1/4” Coolant Hose assembly kit" and that kit does not come with the screw connector for the aluminium block end (output end). I'm also having trouble finding that type connector on the Loc-Line webpage. Do you have a part number for that? Thanks 🙂

@Futterama lockline 41409 on Amazon. Unfortunately I can lot link it right here.

That’s the way to do it. It makes much more sense in an ATC. 👍

I hope so too 😀😀

Thx trying to post more in the next couple month

Thank you for reaching out !!

Ja ich hab ein USB Microscope mit einem Schutz (einfach nur ein Plastik Aufsatz vor der Linse) welches etwas weiter oben angebracht werden kann. Ich denke für Projekte wo man eh außen die komplette Kontur fräst ist das sehr interessant. Danke für dein Input - hatte einen pneumatic cylinder vorgesehen um die 3D Probe anzubringen (a la Datron schwingt also von oben runter im Halbkreis) … ist dann aber wohl nicht so eine gute Idee wenn deiner das nicht ausgehalten hat. Danke für dein Input.

@@JBWorx Ich hab da auf Insta mal einen etwas detaillierteren Post zu gemacht. Sowohl zur Mechanik des Ein- und Ausfahrens, als dann später auch zum Fail 👍

Oh ja sehr schön dein Equipment!!

@@JBWorx Danke dir 🙏

Nice stuff English too. !

Thx for reaching out !!!

Hey that is super awesome that you are using Eding CNC as well. Yes I know his channel - he has an accent as well so yes not as easy to understand. I will note down to make a set up video on Eding.

​@@JBWorx Please do! There are not many english tutorials, but plain basic ones, explaining Eding CNC, so I guess it would cater to english speaking users of this CNC software. And there are so many nice features within this software

Agreed I was always happy with this software also if you ever need a repair on your board you can send it in and get it repaired or replaced for a flat fee. Pretty good service.

Excellent that you liked it. I will upload a vid this weekend about setting xyz zero. There are some cool tips in it like how to use a camera for set up.

Yes that modification is easy to do. Also place a screw into the not used hole otherwise grease will shoot out that way.